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We didn't win promotion so we are not exactly going to be giving pay rises are we ?

We are conference club paying conference wages , if a player wants to move to a league club and higher pay then it's a no brained but the grass ain't always greener.

If they want to stay at a club were they are wanted and play regularly at a big club then they will stay and will have wanted to stay if not then so be it.

I can't see any of our players leaving for another conf club if any leave it will be league clubs and football league money.

Nothing we can do its down to the player but we have to be realistic we can't be giving pay rises when we never achieved the objective we set out to do.

Quoted from DocTower

Still relatively early , most will still be on holiday and contracts not up till the end of the month. In Hurst we trust .

Exactly, at least seventy percent will sign fairly early but the others will take their time, if they don't we will sail again under our skipper and some new hands

Quoted from jonnyboy82

We didn't win promotion so we are not exactly going to be giving pay rises are we ?

We are conference club paying conference wages , if a player wants to move to a league club and higher pay then it's a no brained but the grass ain't always greener.

If they want to stay at a club were they are wanted and play regularly at a big club then they will stay and will have wanted to stay if not then so be it.

I can't see any of our players leaving for another conf club if any leave it will be league clubs and football league money.

Nothing we can do its down to the player but we have to be realistic we can't be giving pay rises when we never achieved the objective we set out to do.

I would say though we are paying near the top end of conference wages though. Appreciate the players will be under more pressure than other clubs in this league but that's what make it challenging and ultimately potentially more rewarding eg fighting for league status at the end of it all

If the worst comes to he worst and Carl doesn't sign is like to see us go for ex Kiddy right back Lee Vaughan. Transfer listed at Cheltenham so would mean a fee but can't imagine it would be that much.

250k if true would be a great amount but we have probably lost money all season so that will just go against that. Fenty like us all is not a bottomless pit.

For goodness sake... there are quite a few wild assumptions going on here.... as has been said...

let's hold up on silly comments and who we want to replace so and so if he leaves.... all good things
come to he who waits..... I'm with Doctower....

Much of the content of this thread underlines the points on the 'two signings in a week' thread. Some folk have leapt ahead with assumptions and oversimplifications.

Quoted from HotToddy

Despite Town making around 250k from Wembley Fenty has made all the players take a pay cut. How short sighted is that. We'll be lucky if 2 or 3 who have been offered new deals sign for Town. If Fenty thinks im renewing my season ticket.

Town made less that 100k on the Wembley trip, I got that from someone who works at the club, If this is true it does not start to plug the gap in our losses, Also what's to say we did not offer him the same amount as last season but Magnay believes as he is player of the season and the fans favourite he deserves more,

Laffo. In one thread it's been decided that on the basis of an understandably non-committal tweet Magnay isn't signing, Fenty has made £250,000 from the play off final (I'd be surprised if we made anywhere near half that), Fenty has made them all take a pay cut and not only that, we no longer need Magnay and indeed someone has suggested his replacement.

Calm down people.

Be gutted to see him go as he is a top player and also a good lad who is close to the fans and the fabric of the club............ If he goes good luck to him and we wish him well.

Didn't take long for the feel good factor to wear off with some did it?

Can't believe he's gone. :'(

We can't afford to lose our best player from last season. I certainly hope Pearson signs a new contract! ;)

Quoted from LH

Can't believe he's gone. :'(

And to Lincoln of all places..... :o :o

Quoted from RoboCod

And to Lincoln of all places..... :o :o

His first choice was Scunny but they could not afford him

I think he's maybe torn between signing for us and signing for someone else. I'm not worried. I suspect he will sign and if it is wages, just give him an extra £250 a week Hurst. Please!

There's some crap posted on this forum at times.  ;D

But I love the banter and sarcasm.

I see a couple of 'anti Fenty' 'nimbys' are stirring things up with negative bull excrement.  :o

I personally think Magnay and most of them, if not all them, will stay and sign a new contract. Wouldn't surprise me if there's a few that have signed already and that the club are trying to pull off a PR stunt, with only announcing one or two at a time, as some have mentioned.

If this is so, I think it's a bad move in the short run, as the 'anti Fenty' brigade have already started with the negativity and excrement stirring. Hopefully these fools will have their speculations (bull excrement) proven to be nothing more than just, crap.  :P

Well never mind Coulson (who is still doing a good job for York), what about a bigger fish that got away when we did not offer a few pennie more: Danny Butterfield.

Lincoln ex Mariners - not got much of a ring to it, but could be where some may end up if they go - hopefully only the 2nd string who don't come back to haunt us in the future !

I really want the back four / five including Gowling to commit so that we are solid at the back from game one of next season.

A really low goals against could restore Fortress Blundell Park, which has gone awol for several seasons !

Would be a good signal from the club to re-sign one of the most popular and consistent players in our recent history. On the contrary, it would send out a big effing negative if he decides to move on for financial reasons. Let's get it sorted!

Quoted from HotToddy

Despite Town making around 250k from Wembley Fenty has made all the players take a pay cut. How short sighted is that. We'll be lucky if 2 or 3 who have been offered new deals sign for Town. If Fenty thinks im renewing my season ticket.

This post for me sums up the problem with forums in general anyone can post anything with true conviction stating absolute facts when it's all total bollox !!

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Would be a good signal from the club to re-sign one of the most popular and consistent players in our recent history. On the contrary, it would send out a big effing negative if he decides to move on for financial reasons. Let's get it sorted!

Exactly this, good post IMO

Am I the only one that thinks magnays already signed to stay with us ?? And that its going to be announced tomorrow.

I think some people are getting a little carried away here.

If you read the whole exchange. Someone had asked if he had signed a new deal whilst drunk. To which he said "I wouldn't need to be drunk"

Quite clearly the guy wants to sign. Until we hear any official news nothing that has been said here has much relevance. It's no good trying to second guess a blokes tweet.....We will just have to wait and see.

Not for the first time I'm glad "Twatter" is a mystery to me. I think we should go back to the days where an expectant crowd gathered outside of the Blundell Park gates eagerly awaiting a typed bulletin to be placed there listing who had signed. It had to be done quickly before the players went off to their various summer jobs (Dave Boylen-ice cream man). Once read we went off to toast our favourites in Hewitt's Dark Mild at the nearest local hostelry.

Quoted from barralad

Not for the first time I'm glad "Twatter" is a mystery to me. I think we should go back to the days where an expectant crowd gathered outside of the Blundell Park gates eagerly awaiting a typed bulletin to be placed there listing who had signed. It had to be done quickly before the players went off to their various summer jobs (Dave Boylen-ice cream man). Once read we went off to toast our favourites in Hewitt's Dark Mild at the nearest local hostelry.

Me too - it would mean we were still in the Football League and we could afford to get players in on a longer term basis rather than this revolving door situation.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Me too - it would mean we were still in the Football League and we could afford to get players in on a longer term basis rather than this revolving door situation.

I readily take your point but wonder if back then (meaning late 60s early 70s) it was actually much different. The fact the players (well some of 'em at least) had to have summer jobs suggests all year long contracts were a thing for much higher up the leagues! :o

Just think, in the good old days we didn't know about anything that happened at the club on non match days.

We turned up at 3pm on Saturdays, went home at 5 and read about the match in the paper the next day. That was about your lot.

We were blissfully ignorant, and a part of me would like to return to those days. Football has become all consuming in this modern age. First the internet and then social media has changed all that. It's exhausting.

I'd quite like to switch off and return in a few weeks to see what's happened. But I can't, because I can't help myself!

I remember when I would watch the scores on teletext/ceefax. Page 312 (news in brief) was the lifeline to the footballing world

I've always been in the pro Fenty camp but if he lets this squad fall apart for the sake of a few bob then he's just making a rod for his own back

Quoted from grimps

I've always been in the pro Fenty camp but if he lets this squad fall apart for the sake of a few bob then he's just making a rod for his own back

Whether you're pro-Fenty, anti-Fenty or in the middle, I think we'd all agree that the dismantling of the squad that a) came so close and b) would have 'won the league had we had it all season' (PH May 2015), would be pretty reckless all things considered.

For a start I don't think JF or PH would personally expect a player to take a pay cut on the back of what happened last season. The way it works , as I understand it , is that JF tells PH what his total playing budget is for the season and he works with that amount. PH might decide on a squad size and then allocate what he thinks is a fair wage for each player. He might decide on 20 players and split the pot accordingly or he could decide on a 24 man squad with a general reduction in what each player gets. We are not privy to any of this and all attempts to try are just pure speculation.

Quoted from barralad

Not for the first time I'm glad "Twatter" is a mystery to me. I think we should go back to the days where an expectant crowd gathered outside of the Blundell Park gates eagerly awaiting a typed bulletin to be placed there listing who had signed. It had to be done quickly before the players went off to their various summer jobs (Dave Boylen-ice cream man). Once read we went off to toast our favourites in Hewitt's Dark Mild at the nearest local hostelry.

How ironic that you have posted this via tinterweb 😉

But Twatter is and Facefuck are indeed the work of the Devil herself.

Quoted from rancido

For a start I don't think JF or PH would personally expect a player to take a pay cut on the back of what happened last season. The way it works , as I understand it , is that JF tells PH what his total playing budget is for the season and he works with that amount. PH might decide on a squad size and then allocate what he thinks is a fair wage for each player. He might decide on 20 players and split the pot accordingly or he could decide on a 24 man squad with a general reduction in what each player gets. We are not privy to any of this and all attempts to try are just pure speculation.

If that is the case then i would certainly be giving those that deserve it a little extra and then work with what is left. Having said that 2 absolute quality players are needed in Key areas, Midfield and Striker. Wait i'm getting carried away we need them to re-sign first lol.

Quoted from HotToddy

Despite Town making around 250k from Wembley Fenty has made all the players take a pay cut. How short sighted is that. We'll be lucky if 2 or 3 who have been offered new deals sign for Town. If Fenty thinks im renewing my season ticket.

I heard from someone within the club that this the case

Terrible if it's true

I should think Big Chris could tell us if that's true or not.

Unfortunately, now Steve Croudson and Paddy have gone, I've got no inside track any more. :-/

Quoted from Cod Cheeks

I heard from someone within the club that this the case

Terrible if it's true

These blatant lies do not do anybody any credit least of all those that pedal them.

Name names. You won't of course but I would love for you to surprise me

Quoted from BIGChris

These blatant lies do not do anybody any credit least of all those that pedal them.

Name names. You won't of course but I would love for you to surprise me

Oh Chris
of course we can't and neither can you yours

Can we stop with the damaging speculation on things like pay levels please?

No evidence has been presented, only hearsay and a lie is half-way round the world before the truth has its boots on.

Unless of course, people are angling for Getyourfactsright to come on here and start rebutting the claims himself?

Quoted from Cod Cheeks

Oh Chris
of course we can't and neither can you yours

I haven't claimed I am getting insider information from within the club. You have

Quoted from HackneyHaddock

Can we stop with the damaging speculation on things like pay levels please?

No evidence has been presented, only hearsay and a lie is half-way round the world before the truth has its boots on.

Unless of course, people are angling for Getyourfactsright to come on here and start rebutting the claims himself?

PH indicated post Wembley that he would have to work within a budget. As I posted earlier, now would not be the time to dismantle a squad that came so close so I do think we should have some indication as to whether the budget is going to allow PH to improve the squad in the necessary areas without losing other key players. If cost reduction is the aim then JF can forget promotion and a new stadium - it just won't happen - let's not forget that the Mullens part funded the existing squad and that we have started slowly the last two years because of major squad reconstruction.

Quoted from zorro_is_a_Mariner

Am I the only one that thinks magnays already signed to stay with us ?? And that its going to be announced tomorrow.

Exactly, the period we are going through at the moment is the football equivalent of foreplay. If we build it they will come.

Personally think that if we want to finally get out of this league then we have to keep this squad together. The team spirit is great and if we can put together a cup run too I'm sure it will be money well spent.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

PH indicated post Wembley that he would have to work within a budget. Surely every manager has to do that? As I posted earlier, now would not be the time to dismantle a squad that came so close so I do think we should have some indication as to whether the budget is going to allow PH to improve the squad in the necessary areas without losing other key players. One of the directors confirmed that the budget would definetly not be cut If cost reduction is the aim then JF can forget promotion and a new stadium - it just won't happen - let's not forget that the Mullens part funded the existing squad and that we have started slowly the last two years because of major squad reconstruction.

I have no idea whether we are operating on a similar budget to last season, but I assume we are.
There has certainly been no indication of a reduced budget so I would expect there to be enough to at least match current deals and the savings made on the released players will be freed up to bring in replacements.
Many have suggested that Hannah would have been towards the top of the earners list.
I think the Mullens money was largely used to bring in/ retain the loanees.

Quoted from BIGChris

I haven't claimed I am getting insider information from within the club. You have

OK I'll tell you
We walked down to the cider festival on Sunday and after few pints of apple juice bumped into my mate Big K who told me key players had been offered reduced terms, in fact he went as far as naming Pearson as being offered £100 less a week to stay
Big K sits in the main stand
BTW
How do you know it's blatant lies?

Quoted from BIGChris

I have no idea whether we are operating on a similar budget to last season, but I assume we are.
There has certainly been no indication of a reduced budget so I would expect there to be enough to at least match current deals and the savings made on the released players will be freed up to bring in replacements.
Many have suggested that Hannah would have been towards the top of the earners list.
I think the Mullens money was largely used to bring in/ retain the loanees.

Am I wrong in thinking that some squad members actually deserve a pay rise?

If we've offered players reduced terms we'll be lucky if any of others sign.

Do footballers actually get paid per week?

(I doubt it)

Quoted from Cod Cheeks

OK I'll tell you
We walked down to the cider festival on Sunday and after few pints of apple juice bumped into my mate Big K who told me key players had been offered reduced terms, in fact he went as far as naming Pearson as being offered £100 less a week to stay
Big K sits in the main stand
BTW
How do you know it's blatant lies?

FFS

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Am I wrong in thinking that some squad members actually deserve a pay rise?

Possibly but without knowing who is on what it's hard to judge. Magnay was a free agent and maybe ( this is a wild guess) we got him a bit cheaper than if he had been offered a deal by Gateshead?

Quoted from SamTheMariner

If we've offered players reduced terms we'll be lucky if any of others sign.

Depends if there are others willing to pay more? I'd imagine we won't be far off the top payers in this league, I would guess FGR, Tranmere and Eastleigh have the ability to pay more with a couple of others on par??

If our players are offered deals in the Football League then it may not be about money but playing at a higher level?

Quoted from Abdul19

Do footballers actually get paid per week?

(I doubt it)

Previously Town players were paid fortnightly. I think that went back to mostly playing at home every fortnight and players largely getting paid out of gate receipts. This may have changed but was still the case 15 years or so ago

Big K sits in the Main Stand so he must know what he's talking about

Quoted from BIGChris

Possibly but without knowing who is on what it's hard to judge. Magnay was a free agent and maybe ( this is a wild guess) we got him a bit cheaper than if he had been offered a deal by Gateshead?

Bottom line is this - penny pinching will not deliver promotion. This is not being negative, if Fenty wants a legacy ( ie a new stadium) it will be worthless unless we are back in the Football league.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Bottom line is this - penny pinching will not deliver promotion. This is not being negative, if Fenty wants a legacy ( ie a new stadium) it will be worthless unless we are back in the Football league.

alleged penny pinching.

The stadium would still be worth having in the National League. Even if we get back in the FL we could get relegated again, anyone in League 2 is only one bad season away from the worst drop in football.

Quoted from GrimRob

alleged penny pinching.

The stadium would still be worth having in the National League. Even if we get back in the FL we could get relegated again, anyone in League 2 is only one bad season away from the worst drop in football.

Didn't allege anything. Merely stating that if we don't reward the good then expect them to go elsewhere whilst we rebuild and start again. Regarding relegation, don't you think we've suffered enough in the last 10 years - see our under achievement rating in the Sky league thread.

RH reporting another player has signed and all will be revealed in the morning

Quoted from Cod Cheeks

OK I'll tell you
We walked down to the cider festival on Sunday and after few pints of apple juice bumped into my mate Big K who told me key players had been offered reduced terms, in fact he went as far as naming Pearson as being offered £100 less a week to stay
Big K sits in the main stand
BTW
How do you know it's blatant lies?

We're copulated with info like this

Quoted from BIGChris

RH reporting another player has signed and all will be revealed in the morning

LJL is my guess, but lads at work today said something about Wimbledon and LJL

Quoted from BIGChris

RH reporting another player has signed and all will be revealed in the morning

You beat me to it Chris, however unless it's Magnay I reckon you have put it on the wrong thread.

Big K? More like Special K.

That LJL to Wimbledon rumour was off twitter. The tweet suggested a fee would be involved. Go in the kitchen and find the salt....

Rumours are exactly that . And big k is full of excrement

Why would a fee be involved he out of contract and older than 24.

Maybe the mods should start deleting some of these stupid posts.

Id much rather get the facts/truth when its released.

I'd imagine if the overall budget were to be reduced, PH would have a smaller squad on similar individual wages, thus keeping the team spirit. The other option is the same number of players, all on less wages, all drunk off. PH isn't stupid.

This thread is hilarious.

I was at the cider festival on Sunday and heard nowt. Perhaps it was because i was drinking beer and missed the board meeting at the cider bar. ;D

Was the cider bar brought in from Millfields and had Robby behind the bar ???

No facts in any of this as far as ?I can see. In the past PH has said there is a pay structure for the squad and he sticks to that. None of us know what that is all talk is rumour and speculation.

All preseason balderdash, with a grain of truth here and there

I take absolutely no notice the the rubbish rumours on these threads at times. I recall a few seasons back we were signing Robbie Fowler, Chelsea interested in Liam Hearn etc. Would rather let the manager do his thing and then be pleasantly surprised when he comes up with a signing (like Magnay last season) that we knew nothing about and vote them as POTY

In fairness the Liam Hearn to Chelsea rumour was in a respected, highly regarded newspaper - The Daily Sport. ;)

Would have been good if we had signed Robbie Fowler and Liam Hearn had signed for Chelsea for £2 million.

Quoted from Meza

Why would a fee be involved he out of contract and older than 24.

Maybe the mods should start deleting some of these stupid posts.

Id much rather get the facts/truth when its released.

So why are you reading the Fishy?

What's all this about Robbie Fowler? Is he signing?

Quoted from psgmariner

What's all this about Robbie Fowler? Is he signing?

He was going to sign for us 10 years ago according to this forum.

No way! Surely that would have been better known?!

I can't see us getting Fowler but it would be a fantastic signing if it comes off.

Come on Fenty push the boat out.

Quoted from arryarryarry

So why are you reading the Fishy?

Eh??

Why not am I allowed aren't I :P

Quoted from Meza

Eh??

Why not am I allowed aren't I :P

Oh dear.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Oh dear.

Grow up FFS

We just need Newell to have a friendly chat with his mate Robbie and he'd be ours. Hopefully Newell left on friendly terms with our Major Shareholder and this could happen !!1!!

Had to laugh at the rumour of Pearson being offered £100 a week less.

So let's take one of our best players of the season - and of the past four seasons - and, knowing he'll probably be interesting other (possibly league) clubs, offer him a WORSE deal than he was on.

Because penny pinching.

I have no idea who Pearson would be talking to about the intricacies of his new contract offer.

I think it's worth stating now that I know nothing about the current contract offers. I have no inside knowledge. But I do have a bit of common sense. And I don't go around seeking attention on forums like this.

So I highly doubt that Pearson is being offered significantly less than what he was on. At worst I'd imagine he was offered a very similar deal - and that he's possibly been offered more by another club, but that could mean moving home and starting afresh at a club where he has no stature and no relationship with the fans.

Lots to consider, which would explain why not all of our out-of-contract players are rushing to sign on the dotted line.

People will always make up rumours in the absence of news. That's the way it's always been. Voids get filled with something, because it's better than nothing.

I actually prefer nothing.

Just seen Robbie Fowler enter the rear entrance of Nicoles with a can of fosters in his hand.

Quoted from RichMariner

Had to laugh at the rumour of Pearson being offered £100 a week less.

So let's take one of our best players of the season - and of the past four seasons - and, knowing he'll probably be interesting other (possibly league) clubs, offer him a WORSE deal than he was on.

Because penny pinching.

I have no idea who Pearson would be talking to about the intricacies of his new contract offer.

I think it's worth stating now that I know nothing about the current contract offers. I have no inside knowledge. But I do have a bit of common sense. And I don't go around seeking attention on forums like this.

So I highly doubt that Pearson is being offered significantly less than what he was on. At worst I'd imagine he was offered a very similar deal - and that he's possibly been offered more by another club, but that could mean moving home and starting afresh at a club where he has no stature and no relationship with the fans.

Lots to consider, which would explain why not all of our out-of-contract players are rushing to sign on the dotted line.

People will always make up rumours in the absence of news. That's the way it's always been. Voids get filled with something, because it's better than nothing.

I actually prefer nothing.

"all is nothing therefore nothing must end " Christy Brown My left foot ! ;)

Pearson will re-sign. Trust me ;)

Magnay's going to look a bit daft if he doesn't stay after saying we're the "best club outside the championship". Confident he will sign on again.

Quoted from Sigone

Pearson will re-sign. Trust me ;)

Would be the best news of the summer for me .

UTM

Quoted from gtfc98

Magnay's going to look a bit daft if he doesn't stay after saying we're the "best club outside the championship". Confident he will sign on again.

When did he say that?! Ridiculous claim considered we finished 3rd in the Conference.

Quoted from psgmariner

Ridiculous claim considered we finished 3rd in the Conference.

Boooooo!

*points at PSG and make noise like Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasion Of The Body Snatchers*

#believe #forgetFacts

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

Boooooo!

*points at PSG and make noise like Donald Sutherland at the end of Invasion Of The Body Snatchers*

#believe #forgetFacts

Now that did make me laugh :)

Thinking about it maybe we could grow another Magnay from some of those alien pods and then we'd be sure to have one here for next season one way or another

Quoted from psgmariner

When did he say that?! Ridiculous claim considered we finished 3rd in the Conference.

Said it in a radio interview a couple of months ago. Bizarre claim to make given that there's Sheff United, Portsmouth etc all in those leagues!

Quoted from gtfc98

Said it in a radio interview a couple of months ago. Bizarre claim to make given that there's Sheff United, Portsmouth etc all in those leagues!

Gone off him now. Get rid.

Wow now 109 comments about what has or hasn't been said!
Could we just wait and see what happens
Patience is a virtue

Yes maybe it is but Magnay, must sign, I repeat must!!!

No players would have been asked to take a pay decrease. If anything then the squad will be smaller to allow for Hurst to bring the players back that he wants to keep with maybe 5 or 6 more to add to that. Hence the reason 9 have gone

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Now that did make me laugh :)

Thinking about it maybe we could grow another Magnay from some of those alien pods and then we'd be sure to have one here for next season one way or another

ooh thats a really good scene that .............

interviewed on radio humbs tonight
https://audioboom.com/boos/3222761-grimsby-town-s-player-of-the-year-carl-magnay-talks-about-his-future#t=12m1s

Quoted from ex-merseymariner

interviewed on radio humbs tonight
https://audioboom.com/boos/3222761-grimsby-town-s-player-of-the-year-carl-magnay-talks-about-his-future#t=12m1s

Ok so what did he say?

Says he was one of the lowest paid last year and he's had a rise in the contract but it's not too great. Considering his options at the moment and is giving us as much time to try and add extras to his contract that will help him such as his transport and location issue.

He's had Football League offers. He will make the decision in the next week or so.

Travel costs an issue for him, start the ball rolling, I'll put a tenner in the pot.

The last minute or so indicates to me that he is off and we will be surprised that the club he is going to as we will consider them smaller. Seems his travel costs and location is key. He car shared with Hannah, Paddy & Parslow last season and with all them gone he can't afford the travel costs to training everyday!

He is a skilled operator on and off the pitch ( maybe trained in such at Chelsea?). Says lots about the fans and size of club. Has been offered a decent pay rise but wanted/expected more.

IMO going public is the end of negotiation.

Thanks Carl, a cracking and consistent performer BUT like every player, replaceable (somehow)

Sounded to me that as much as he wants to stop, the money is not good enough and he will go elsewhere for the cash even though the club is not so big. After hearing that I think he won't be stopping. Shame

Very honest interview about the current state of play. He's '50/50' on whether he'll remain a Town player, with issues like car sharing (he used to share with Hannah, McLaughlin and Parslow) being a problem that has to be addressed.

Sign Parslow and that would solve the problem ...........

We best start investing in our club to help nail down this squad. Fingers crossed the mariners trust will roll something out super quick so we can all put the money in we've committed in previous posts.

UTM

Anyone work for a company that could provide a sponsored car??

Can't see the board being too happy that he's used the media to create a bit of fan disappointment to lever a few extra quid for petrol. That said though it's what 80ish miles to Leeds? Roughly 5 litres on fuel at £1.09/litre ish. It's not a lot is it really per journey?

Sounds like he doesn't want to leave but that was a wake-up call for the club need to pull their finger out to keep him.

Isn't this exactly what we could be using the £100 pledges for.... It is absolutely vital in my opinion that we keep the likes of Carl. I understand the trust wanting to collate this money together but we've been talking about this for over a week and had pledged totalling over £3000.... That would be a start in covering travel costs for a season surely!

We simply cannot lose key players for the sake of a few hundred pounds. I don't buy into the thinking that they are replaceable.... Positionaly of course they are.... But what they give in passion, commitment, drive and hunger cannot be in my opinion. This is the best, closest knit squad we have had in years and we're going to dismantle that over a couple of adds bonuses!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Based on the fact he lives near Leeds, maybe York in for him? Or Hartlepool if he moves closer to home?

I think unfortunately that will be the end of Magnay in a town shirt. Gutted as I think more than any other player he connected players and fans. Wish him all the best.
PS I hope that I am wrong

False economy for me. Another £100 is about 6 fans through the turnstiles and losing our best players could stop the fickle fans from attending.

I can see him signing for York, based on what he has said. Do hope I am wrong as he is such a key player.

Sounds like maybe smaller clubs have offered him more money with their financial clout of being in league 2, York, Mansfield?

Commuting from Leeds, I guess he doesn't want to move. I wonder how long a deal we have offered.

Quoted from itsnotcoditshaddock

Based on the fact he lives near Leeds, maybe York in for him? Or Hartlepool if he moves closer to home?

Yeah Hartlepool could be another option, being close to where he's actually from.

Playing devils advocate but what if others all want the same?

Give it to one but not others? Would we then have the team spirit/unit we witnessed last season?

I hate the thought of sitting tight and watch Magnay leave over a few extra costs. We need the incentives and fast

Quoted from BIGChris

The last minute or so indicates to me that he is off and we will be surprised that the club he is going to as we will consider them smaller. Seems his travel costs and location is key. He car shared with Hannah, Paddy & Parslow last season and with all them gone he can't afford the travel costs to training everyday!

He is a skilled operator on and off the pitch ( maybe trained in such at Chelsea?). Says lots about the fans and size of club. Has been offered a decent pay rise but wanted/expected more.

IMO going public is the end of negotiation.

Thanks Carl, a cracking and consistent performer BUT like every player, replaceable (somehow)

I agree BC. It makes me sad and angry because I think he'd stay if he was offered the deal he surely deserves. If Town let their player of the year leave over these issues then they open themselves up to criticism IMO. If you take him at his word, and I judge him absolutely sincere, he wants to find a way to stay. We MUST make that happen if it's in our power IMO.

What's more worrying for me is that I don't think it bodes well in terms of several other key players signing on again. :-/
Perhaps we will not be going 'all out' for the title next season as hoped, but, more than ever, trying to do it on the cheap and hope for the best.

If he does go to York then at least we can sign him back the season after....

Quoted from LH

Can't see the board being too happy that he's used the media to create a bit of fan disappointment to lever a few extra quid for petrol. That said though it's what 80ish miles to Leeds? Roughly 5 litres on fuel at £1.09/litre ish. It's not a lot is it really per journey?

£15 minimum in diesel each day. Suspect there is at least 5 commutes a week which is 800 miles. £75 a week fuel, plus devaluing his vehicle. Add to that wear and tear on his vehicle plus any repairs, it soon adds up. I'm sure there is a reason why he's based Leeds way on such as family work commitments. Anyone know what Mrs Magnay does for a living? Let's get her a job in Grimsby!

Quoted from BIGChris

Playing devils advocate but what if others all want the same?

Give it to one but not others? Would we then have the team spirit/unit we witnessed last season?

Offer them either a place in digs or a fixed rate contribution per mile? It is their choice to live away after all. Surely he has an accountant to sort his short term contract fuel duty refund too?

I get the impression he will leave now, come on town we must try keep these players ffs so frustrating when you hear him going on about a smaller club but offering him a bit more.

Hartwells sponsor the club don't they. I am sure they have a 2yr old mondeo they could use to sponsor the clubs player of the year in return for a few extra hospitality seats per game?

Not sure this is the right approach, sometimes things like this are best left to oneself. I also think its goodbye Magnay (most POTY do tend to leave). My only concern is if players like Magnay, Pearson LJL are also in the same boat this feel good factor will be.....well ruined.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Well never mind Coulson (who is still doing a good job for York), what about a bigger fish that got away when we did not offer a few pennie more: Danny Butterfield.

If i remember right it wasnt the money it was Fenty saying he wasnt good enough for us 😂

Quoted from BIGChris

Playing devils advocate but what if others all want the same?

Give it to one but not others? Would we then have the team spirit/unit we witnessed last season?

Didn't he state that he was one of the lower paid players? Perhaps he just wants parity.

These lads do cars for about £150 a week including tax, servicing etc... and when you don't want to use it you give it back for a bit and stop paying. When you want it you get it back and start paying again. They call it flexible hire. All the club would need to do is insure it and add a bit of diesel, not massive over a year. All they would need to do is sell an extra 100 programmes, a load more pies or keep the bar open longer.

http://www.northgatevehiclehire.co.uk/

Just to offer another point of view....

We only have a finite budget, with or without the boost. If he has been offered what PH thinks he is worth and he isn't prepared to stay for it then maybe we have to accept that he doesn't want to play here.
We can't afford to shift heaven & earth for every player, so if a couple believe they are worth more than they are being offered then I think we need to have faith that they will be replaced with strong players and let them go.

He also stated that he feels the budget has been cut again. Doesn't sound to good IMO

Quoted from ginnywings

Didn't he state that he was one of the lower paid players? Perhaps he just wants parity.

He wants 'add ons' to assist with his travel costs for next season.

Last season he was one of the lower paid players having been released by Gateshead and without a club. Town offered him a chance then and he bit their hand off.
Now he has proved himself he has been offered more but obviously not enough in his eyes

Quoted from ackomariner

He also stated that he feels the budget has been cut again. Doesn't sound to good IMO

Indeed. The feel good factor could start to diminish quickly.

This is just the same old , we let our best players go every season and start again .
What's the point of buying a season ticket when are fenty dosen't bother opening his cheque book until January ?

Sad to say but you could see this coming. For the first time in years, we get a squad that wants to be a success and we fail to register the fact that some squad members give their all both on and off the pitch. Carl Magnay is a very good footballer at our level but on top of that good with the media, good with the fans and the sort of character who could well have become club captain post Diz.

Failure to re-sign players like Carl Magnay will cost on the pitch and also in season ticket revenue. Period.

I hope the budget hasn't been cut losing key players will certainly dis-encourage more fans to purchase ST they need to use this feel good factor thats around at the min. I fear the season ahead and JF who I've supported and admired will lose some of my support if the season ends in misery.

C'mon John don't let this feel good factor die just because you need to keep an extra few hundred notes. Trust in the fans im sure ST salea will be up this year. .....in terms of waynes world...if you sign them they will come

Be very very surprised to see him in a town shirt again. Big blow

Not sure I can accept a player demanding extras to deal with travel. Anyone else doing a regular job would be expected to foot their own travel costs or relocate to somewhere closer to their workplace. Seems somewhat selfish and egotistical for a footballer to try and demand extra wages when your average person would never expect an employer to foot similar costs. If he loved playing for town as much as he claimed he'd either move closer or just deal with the travel costs. If he's unhappy with the terms offered then he can go chance his hand with another club paying higher wages (where he obviously won't be as appreciated by the supporters and can't guarantee he'll be part of a squad with a great sense of team spirit)

Quoted from Chrisblor

Not sure I can accept a player demanding extras to deal with travel. Anyone else doing a regular job would be expected to foot their own travel costs or relocate to somewhere closer to their workplace. Seems somewhat selfish and egotistical for a footballer to try and demand extra wages when your average person would never expect an employer to foot similar costs. If he loved playing for town as much as he claimed he'd either move closer or just deal with the travel costs. If he's unhappy with the terms offered then he can go chance his hand with another club paying higher wages (where he obviously won't be as appreciated by the supporters and can't guarantee he'll be part of a squad with a great sense of team spirit)

Wherever he goes they will be 'great' fans at a 'big club'

Scunny would sign Mags and Pearson .... Boycie is now their first choice CB and he isn't better than either of them .........

Quoted from Carl Magnay

"Not sure of the exact figures, but pretty sure the budget has been cut, knowing what the other players have been offered."

:(

[url=https://audioboom.com/boos/3222761-grimsby-town-s-player-of-the-year-carl-magnay-talks-about-his-future#t=6m0s]https://audioboom.com/boos/3222761-grimsby-town-s-player-of-the-year-carl-magnay-talks-about-his-future#t=6m0s[/url]

Quoted from BIGChris

Wherever he goes they will be 'great' fans at a 'big club'

Well he is a savvy operator when it comes to the media!

Should Carl be saying the budget has been cut, I don't think it's up to him to be saying that tbh. If he wants to go then that's up to him I just dint get why he would say that though

I'm not sure it's that unusual for contractors to get travel costs - especially if you can convince the employer that you are the best person for the job. It's definitely something I've been advised to try and push for if possible before.

Its disappointing to say the least. A bit unprofessional from him and if true disappointed in Town.

Oh well thanks Maggers hope you have a great season.

Long live GTFC

From the interview, i think he's upset with his offer, but it isnt his place to be discussing the budget in public, i hope this isnt how the rest are thinking!!

I don't think that cutting the budget will improve our promotion chances whichever way you dress it up.

He may also be building up the hype. Other than Pearson he is the one player the fans would like to see sign a new contract. I think that we will see one or two players announcing they have signed new contracts every day over the coming weeks with Magnay and Pearson being the last two. I am more concerned about who the new players might be.

https://twitter.com/mattdeanradio/status/603653320117506048

Quoted from Chrisblor

Not sure I can accept a player demanding extras to deal with travel. Anyone else doing a regular job would be expected to foot their own travel costs or relocate to somewhere closer to their workplace. Seems somewhat selfish and egotistical for a footballer to try and demand extra wages when your average person would never expect an employer to foot similar costs. If he loved playing for town as much as he claimed he'd either move closer or just deal with the travel costs. If he's unhappy with the terms offered then he can go chance his hand with another club paying higher wages (where he obviously won't be as appreciated by the supporters and can't guarantee he'll be part of a squad with a great sense of team spirit)

He hasn't made extra travel demands ,he just said that alL the people he car shared with have been released.
I expect it's more the amount of driving each week than actual petrol money

Quoted from Hagrid

From the interview, i think he's upset with his offer, but it isnt his place to be discussing the budget in public, i hope this isnt how the rest are thinking!!

I fear it could be how the lads feel....crying shame with how well things were going since January

Quoted from psgmariner

https://twitter.com/mattdeanradio/status/603653320117506048

LJL or Pearson :-/

If he's been offered more elsewhere, and he doesn't need to travel as far, then you just have to say fair enough and wish him all the best.

That's the reality of being a Conference club, and the price for missing out on promotion.

I always had the impression (don't know why) that last season's budget was a bit more than usual, and that if we didn't go up we'd have to tighten the purse strings a little this season.

We're going to feel it now more than ever before - especially as we had one of the best squads in a long time.

I guess so mate. We knew we had to get promoted last season. We just had to.

Quoted from ackomariner

He also stated that he feels the budget has been cut again. Doesn't sound to good IMO

As much as I love him it's not for him to be discussing the club's budget on the radio. He's very good at using the media to his advantage and to get the fans onside. At the end of the day if he loves it here as much as he keeps saying he'll re-sign. If not we'll move on.

I'd have loved him to stay but the way he's conducted himself leaves a bit to be desired. Maybe we've all been sucked in by another badge-kisser. I'll still be here next season.

I don't get that. How has he conducted himself badly ?

I wouldn't say it was bad conduct - more poor form.

Quoted from chaos33

I don't get that. How has he conducted himself badly ?

Agreed. He has spoken honestly and candidly all season and been lauded for it.

Exactly. He's just spoken sincerely and given everyone an insight they wouldn't have had.

Quoted from chaos33

I don't get that. How has he conducted himself badly ?

It may be the cynic in me but it feels like he's trying to leverage his position with the fans into getting a bigger offer from the club for next season. Kinda underhand if that is the case.

Quoted from chaos33

I don't get that. How has he conducted himself badly ?

He's made an assumption about the budget and broadcast it on the radio when it's not his place to do so. Any employee in any job who did the same would be conducting themselves badly IMO. He's also using the media to try and get more money for himself which I can't really be ar sed with.

Fair enough if that's your view chrisblor, but I don't get that impression. Let's assume it's true though - to what end? So he can stay! If it was just a financial ruse, he would simply sign for one of the league clubs offering him more money, closer to where he lives.

Quoted from chaos33

Fair enough if that's your view chrisblor, but I don't get that impression. Let's assume it's true tough - to what end? So he can stay! If it was just a financial ruse, he would simply sign for one of the league clubs offering him more money, closer to where he lives.

Yeah and that's what I'm expecting him to do. He's basically saying to us "well I can earn more elsewhere, so offer me more money to stay". We've got a budget and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be held to ransom. I'd love him to stay, but we shouldn't have to break the bank and offer over and above what we can afford to make that the case.

Quoted from BIGChris

Wherever he goes they will be 'great' fans at a 'big club'

Cynical but so true of badge kissers

Quoted from chaos33

I don't get that. How has he conducted himself badly ?

By giving an interview to local radio where he discusses private discussions between himself and the club and the clubs budget. If he feels the offer is not good enough that's fine. Try to negotiate something better and if he still has a better offer elsewhere then I completely understand why he would leave and look after his family and himself. I'd do the same. The interview just sits uneasily with me.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Yeah and that's what I'm expecting him to do. He's basically saying to us "well I can earn more elsewhere, so offer me more money to stay". We've got a budget and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be held to ransom. I'd love him to stay, but we shouldn't have to break the bank and offer over and above what we can afford to make that the case.

I invariably agree with you mate, so fair enough, you're probably right. One or two assumptions in there though maybe mate.

This kind of thing goes on in business all the time though, and successful companies often renegotiate to keep their best staff.

Always the case here even in the league we will always be a step up to bigger and better things for a decent player even more so at non league level.

Knew it would all end in tears for our fans face masks,banners an all seen it happen so many times here remember Stevie Kabba just one example of the top of my head,

Quoted from chaos33

I invariably agree with you mate, so fair enough, you're probably right. One or two assumptions in there though maybe mate.

This kind of thing goes on in business all the time though, and successful companies often renegotiate to keep their best staff.

I get what you're saying, but I wish my employer would offer me the same terms!

Good player definitely . Irreplaceable no .

And he's got a dodgy knee that could go pop at any time .

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Always the case here even in the league we will always be a step up to bigger and better things for a decent player even more so at non league level.

Knew it would all end in tears for our fans face masks,banners an all seen it happen so many times here remember Stevie Kabba just one example of the top of my head,

George Santos!

IMO he hasn't said anything wrong. He has said that the club have increased last years offer but that isn't an issue. The travelling situation and fuel costs are the stumbling block. I say sod it, loan him a motor and give him a fuel card. If we sign anyone else from up north, he can car share. Sorted.

To me, he's playing the martyr a little here. He's basically intending to leave the club, he's had an offer elsewhere but is blaming the club when he probably had no intentions of staying therefore he doesn't lose any face with supporters.

Fennnnnnnnnnnnnnnty !!

Maybe, if Magnay loves the town and the area so much he should move here, I work in Leeds and know that houses are loads more expensive there as opposed to here in Grimsby, he could pocket maybe 50k and he wouldn't have any travelling costs, jobs a gudun and everybody's happy :)

Travelling isn't a great excuse though, may be he just fancies a challenge elsewhere?

I travel 500+ miles a week to work and earn less. The only way lower league players earn money is to move, signing on fees etc. They look at things different to many of us. 3+ years earning decent money at one club or a few pounds more every year by moving...

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Fennnnnnnnnnnnnnnty !!

I bet he will not be pleased at that interview! :)

I reckon he really wants to stay and will if the club put a bit more cash in.

Why would you give an interview if you didn't want to stay - you would just sign for someone else and put up on twitter that "it's a great club but I've got to put my family first."

It's clearly a negotiating strategy and I hope it succeeds.

Maybe he's just a tosser.

Quoted from horsforthmariner

I reckon he really wants to stay and will if the club put a bit more cash in.

Why would you give an interview if you didn't want to stay - you would just sign for someone else and put up on twitter that "it's a great club but I've got to put my family first."

It's clearly a negotiating strategy and I hope it succeeds.

I'm with you till the last bit. I don't believe John Fenty is the sort of person who would like to be browbeaten into giving a pay rise to a disgruntled employee. Just my opinion mind.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I'm with you till the last bit. I don't believe John Fenty is the sort of person who would like to be browbeaten into giving a pay rise to a disgruntled employee. Just my opinion mind.

No he isn't.

[img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01514/russell_slade2_1514429c.jpg[/img]

Quoted from SamTheMariner

Maybe he's just a tosser.

Like some on here

Quoted from 97

No he isn't.

[img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01514/russell_slade2_1514429c.jpg[/img]

Yes. Thanks WLM - I just couldn't be arsed to find a pic of Sladeisace. ;)

Player who spends one season at a club kissing the badge, tells us we're the best club outside the championship leaves. Shocker. Didn't see that one coming.

Move on.

Quoted from Sigone

Pearson will re-sign. Trust me ;)

I always had faith ;)

Thank you Big K
Obviously you letting it out of the bag about Pearson pay cut forced Fenty into a U turn and offer him a better deal :P

Think the interview was part of an exit strategy designed not to make him look like the bad guy............Not sure why he did it TBH.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Yes. Thanks WLM - I just couldn't be arsed to find a pic of Sladeisace. ;)

Forget Sladeisace

We've now got Hurstiserse

Everything in place for Carl to sign if he really wants to be a Grimsby Town player again next season according to PH in the paper today.

Quoted Text

PAUL Hurst says if Carl Magnay genuinely wants to be a Grimsby Town player next season, everything is in place for him to do so.

After seeing nine of the 12 players who were offered new contracts sign up, the Mariners boss is working hard to convince Magnay (left) and Toto Nsiala to do the same.

Magnay has this week spoken publicly of his concerns about his offer to stay at Blundell Park, but speaking to the Telegraph, Hurst says the club is 'moving forward' in attempting to resolve those issues.

"We're trying with Carl," he said. "He's obviously made public some of his concerns and we're trying to appease those.

"What I can't do is say who our signings are going to be, where they're coming from and where they're going to live. I'm not going to make any false promises – that's not how I work.

"But we've certainly moved forward in terms of trying to help ease some of Carl's concerns.

"My honest view is that if he genuinely wants to be at this football club, then he can be.

"There are some issues and concerns to address, but ultimately, the deal that he's been offered is a good one and we can sort everything else out.

"If he hand on heart wants to play for this football club, he'll re-sign.

"If he doesn't, then he'll leave with our best wishes and a very high and warm rapport with the fans.

"The opportunity for him to stay is there if he wants to stay."

"With Toto, I need to catch up with him because he went away on holiday very quickly after the final.

"I want him here, make no bones about it.

"His situation is one where, given his age and that he's been offered a deal, the club slightly has the upper hand, which makes a nice change in truth.

"For him to leave, it would take a team who's willing to pay a fee or risk going through a tribunal, unless he's moving abroad and so the ball is in Toto's court.

"But from the season that he's had, he'll now that he's improved and, with the environment we've created here, he'd be in a good place. I hope that's how he sees things and that he's happy to stay.

"He'd be another major part of this squad."

Firstly want to say I really want Magnay to stay.

I don't particularly like the negotiation by media. When that happens I don't think it will end well.

By going public I think Carl was paving the way to move on. PH has called his bluff in a way by saying improved terms have been offered and that the club are flexible to sorting out his issues.

The ball is now in Carl's court and I'd stress again I want him to stay but if he chooses to move on then so be it. We will cope!

The statement on here a few days ago is so true; "The badge on the front of the shirt is much more important than the name on the back"

Quoted from BIGChris

By going public I think Carl was paving the way to move on.

I read it slightly differently. The travelling costs are not insignificant so why not try to get the club to cover them? The worst that can happen is they say no. I've no doubt that one or two other clubs are interested in him so that's in his favour and it makes sense for him to point it out. All just part of the negotiating. Hurst has now said the club have listened and the best offer he's going to get is on the table, take it or leave it.

I think the way Carl has made himself popular shows that he quite a shrewd chap. That's not to say he's false, I honestly think he loved it last season, but I think he made sure that people saw his best side. I think these negotiations are just the actions of a man with his head screwed on and who is playing the cards he's got well.

I think it's fair to say Hurst isn't daft either. His "if he truly wants to stay" remark puts the ball well and truly back in Carl's court and takes the pressure off the club should the POTY not re-sign.

Quoted from BIGChris

The statement on here a few days ago is so true; "The badge on the front of the shirt is much more important than the name on the back"

Fans make the club players don't. Hence why I have so much respect and love for everyone attached to the club. Keeping it real as opposed to supporting the glamour boys eg Man Utd and the like. Says something about the person as well when you follow a team based on allegiance of some sort and locality as opposed to wanting to be associated with success at the top.

I'm not sure he'll remain such a fans favourite if he does stay. Certainly for me, this negotiating through the media doesn't make me think highly of him at all.

Bear in mind that those saying we should just bung him another 100 quid a week to cover his travelling costs, that's over 5 grand extra over the next year (I'm assuming he's being offered a 2 year contract here). Not an insignificant amount at this level.

I'm not sure that Magnay is as key as everyone thinks he is. Sure, he's a great full back at this level, but full back is not the most important area on the pitch. I think McKeown, Pearson, the illusive goal scorer we must sign and Diz are more important to the side than Magnay.

Quoted from SamTheMariner

I'm not sure that Magnay is as key as everyone thinks he is. Sure, he's a great full back at this level, but full back is not the most important area on the pitch. I think McKeown, Pearson, the illusive goal scorer we must sign and Diz are more important to the side than Magnay.

If full backs are not important why don't we play a couple more up front or in midfield?

Some good stuff on this clip, was posted on YouTube yesterday.

[youtube]DgBqnZlTwuQ[/youtube]

Every position in a team is as important as the next.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

I remember when I would watch the scores on teletext/ceefax. Page 312 (news in brief) was the lifeline to the footballing world

Page 312 was in the glory days of the Second/new First Division. Sigh.

Took bloody ages for those pages to scroll round. But still cheaper than ringing Clubcall.

Quoted from Vance Warner

He's made an assumption about the budget and broadcast it on the radio when it's not his place to do so. Any employee in any job who did the same would be conducting themselves badly IMO. He's also using the media to try and get more money for himself which I can't really be ar sed with.

Well currently he isn't an employee. I'm sure the club wouldn't be averse to justifying their position in the media if asked questions like why they didn't manage to keep key players.

Sharing an assumption about a budget reduction is hardly using inside information either. Paul Hurst hinted the budget may be lower in his interview post-Wembley.

Nothing wrong with it in my opinion.

I agree how important Magnay would be next season but this thread is becoming tiresome, and for all them licking his derrier you will soon change your opinion if he leaves, it's time for an answer, yes it's time.

Full back might not be the most important area on the pitch, but it must be pretty important if the fans recognise that the full back deserves to be crowned Player of the Season.

Sorry but I don't buy Maggers excuse of distance and transport issues he as had an improved offer which he admits he has no issue with
It's make ya mind up time same with Toto.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Page 312 was in the glory days of the Second/new First Division. Sigh.

Took bloody ages for those pages to scroll round. But still cheaper than ringing Clubcall.

I remember getting a right boll0cking for using club call. Well, I think it was club call anyway! :-/

Quoted from promotion plaice

I agree how important Magnay would be next season but this thread is becoming tiresome, and for all them licking his derrier you will soon change your opinion if he leaves, it's time for an answer, yes it's time.

Time for an answer? Sweet Jesus the guy aint even had time to take a post Wembley $hit yet! If I was him I'd be off on my jollies 1st. Sure, Hurst can set him a deadline to decide, he goes off feeling wanted and has time to think things through with a clear head. He will do a Pearson and see that the grass may not be greener and he's onto a good thing. Patience is a virtue!
PS Feel free to quote this when he fooks off to a league club 8)

We Love you Maggy Maggy Maggers

Seems easy just to say here you are Carl money for your travel costs, but we need to remember team spirit is key and I am sure other players travel at their own cost so could upset the apple cart. Not worth upsetting the team to satisfy him. If he is not happy with the offer then I thank him and wish him well wherever he ends up. He is not bigger than the team.

After listening to Paul's interview on Friday I'm quietly confident both Carl and Toto will re-sign!

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

After listening to Paul's interview on Friday I'm quietly confident both Carl and Toto will re-sign!

I am too.

I think Carl may regret discussing things in public as it's rubbed a few people up the wrong way but I don't think what he's actually asked for is a problem. The club can say yes, no, meet you half way, or whatever. I think (well, hope) that he'll sign up soon and he will be the fans favourite again.

He says length of contract is an issue so I assume he's looking for two years. I've been critical of the clubs policy of allowing key players contracts to expire but to be fair, would a relatively long term deal be a danger in this case? I worry about Carl's knee. He suffered an ACL injury a few years ago and had to be nursed through games last season, he couldn't play two games in a week and I think towards the end of the season his form dropped a little bit. Is there a problem with his knee?

Quoted from 75

He says length of contract is an issue so I assume he's looking for two years. I've been critical of the clubs policy of allowing key players contracts to expire but to be fair, would a relatively long term deal be a danger in this case? I worry about Carl's knee. He suffered an ACL injury a few years ago and had to be nursed through games last season, he couldn't play two games in a week and I think towards the end of the season his form dropped a little bit. Is there a problem with his knee?

Carl Magnay 2014-2015 Games
Date Opposition Minutes Goals Card Sub
09/08/2014 Bristol Rovers 90 0 None No
12/08/2014 Nuneaton 90 0 None No
16/08/2014 Dover 88 0 None No
23/08/2014 Gateshead 90 0 None No
25/08/2014 Alfreton 78 0 Yellow No
30/08/2014 Aldershot 90 0 None No
06/09/2014 Welling 90 0 None No
09/09/2014 Lincoln 90 0 None No
13/09/2014 Torquay 90 0 None No
16/09/2014 Halifax 90 0 None No
20/09/2014 Kidderminster 90 0 None No
27/09/2014 Chester 90 0 None No
30/09/2014 Southport 90 0 None No
04/10/2014 Dartford 90 0 Yellow No
07/10/2014 Altrincham 90 0 None No
11/10/2014 Wrexham 90 0 None No
18/10/2014 Torquay 90 0 None No
25/10/2014 Guiseley 90 0 None No
01/11/2014 Dartford 90 1 None No
04/11/2014 Braintree 95 0 Yellow No
11/11/2014 Halifax 55 0 None No
15/11/2014 Altrincham 90 0 None No
22/11/2014 Kidderminster 90 0 None No
25/11/2014 Woking 90 0 None No
29/11/2014 Telford 90 0 None No
13/12/2014 Nuneaton 90 0 None No
19/12/2014 Forest Green 93 0 Yellow No
28/12/2014 Lincoln 46 0 Yellow No
10/01/2015 Gateshead 90 0 None No
17/01/2015 Barnet 90 0 None No
21/01/2015 Gateshead 90 0 None No
24/01/2015 Nuneaton 90 0 None No
27/01/2015 Eastleigh 90 0 None No
07/02/2015 Forest Green 90 0 None No
14/02/2015 Bristol Rovers 90 0 Yellow No
21/02/2015 Barnet 90 0 None No
24/02/2015 Telford 90 0 None No
28/02/2015 Braintree 90 0 None No
07/03/2015 Woking 90 0 None No
14/03/2015 Chester 90 0 None No
21/03/2015 Eastleigh 90 0 Yellow No
24/03/2015 Dover 90 0 None No
28/03/2015 Welling 90 0 None No
04/04/2015 Gateshead 90 0 None No
11/04/2015 Wrexham 90 0 None No
18/04/2015 Southport 90 0 None No
30/04/2015 Eastleigh 90 0 Yellow No
01/04/2015 Eastleigh 90 0 None No
17/04/2015 Bristol Rovers 90 0 Yellow No

I think you need to check his stats before saying he could not play 2 games in a week! but then again he did miss a couple of games around New Year.8)
UTMM

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

I remember getting a right boll0cking for using club call. Well, I think it was club call anyway! :-/

You had to be careful with those 0898 numbers. One wrong digit and instead of finding out about Alan and the boys you got Busty Barbara from Bromley and it's amazing how long it took her to find the Town score. That was my excuse and I'm sticking to it. ;)

Quoted from SamTheMariner

I'm not sure that Magnay is as key as everyone thinks he is. Sure, he's a great full back at this level, but full back is not the most important area on the pitch. I think McKeown, Pearson, the illusive goal scorer we must sign and Diz are more important to the side than Magnay.

Every position is important and all the components together make a team. The advantage Magnay has is that he can play either right or left back. As well as this flexibility it also means we possibly need one less back-up defender.

On another point I cannot understand some of the hypocrisy in this thread. The Board and JF have been constantly slated in the past for not running the club correctly as regards the finances. A lot don't like our dependence on JF being a " financial crutch " to ensure the clubs survival. He and the Board bring out a playing budget for the year - ie one that is affordable. Then, as soon as it seems that one player can't be accommodated within that structure then there are demands for JF to dig in his pockets or change the arrangement to suit that player. Now I want promotion just as much as the next supporter and I also don't want to lose one of our best players but how far do you go to achieve this ?

Quoted from gobby

Carl Magnay 2014-2015 Games
Date Opposition Minutes Goals Card Sub
09/08/2014 Bristol Rovers 90 0 None No
12/08/2014 Nuneaton 90 0 None No
16/08/2014 Dover 88 0 None No
23/08/2014 Gateshead 90 0 None No
25/08/2014 Alfreton 78 0 Yellow No
30/08/2014 Aldershot 90 0 None No
06/09/2014 Welling 90 0 None No
09/09/2014 Lincoln 90 0 None No
13/09/2014 Torquay 90 0 None No
16/09/2014 Halifax 90 0 None No
20/09/2014 Kidderminster 90 0 None No
27/09/2014 Chester 90 0 None No
30/09/2014 Southport 90 0 None No
04/10/2014 Dartford 90 0 Yellow No
07/10/2014 Altrincham 90 0 None No
11/10/2014 Wrexham 90 0 None No
18/10/2014 Torquay 90 0 None No
25/10/2014 Guiseley 90 0 None No
01/11/2014 Dartford 90 1 None No
04/11/2014 Braintree 95 0 Yellow No
11/11/2014 Halifax 55 0 None No
15/11/2014 Altrincham 90 0 None No
22/11/2014 Kidderminster 90 0 None No
25/11/2014 Woking 90 0 None No
29/11/2014 Telford 90 0 None No
13/12/2014 Nuneaton 90 0 None No
19/12/2014 Forest Green 93 0 Yellow No
28/12/2014 Lincoln 46 0 Yellow No
10/01/2015 Gateshead 90 0 None No
17/01/2015 Barnet 90 0 None No
21/01/2015 Gateshead 90 0 None No
24/01/2015 Nuneaton 90 0 None No
27/01/2015 Eastleigh 90 0 None No
07/02/2015 Forest Green 90 0 None No
14/02/2015 Bristol Rovers 90 0 Yellow No
21/02/2015 Barnet 90 0 None No
24/02/2015 Telford 90 0 None No
28/02/2015 Braintree 90 0 None No
07/03/2015 Woking 90 0 None No
14/03/2015 Chester 90 0 None No
21/03/2015 Eastleigh 90 0 Yellow No
24/03/2015 Dover 90 0 None No
28/03/2015 Welling 90 0 None No
04/04/2015 Gateshead 90 0 None No
11/04/2015 Wrexham 90 0 None No
18/04/2015 Southport 90 0 None No
30/04/2015 Eastleigh 90 0 Yellow No
01/04/2015 Eastleigh 90 0 None No
17/04/2015 Bristol Rovers 90 0 Yellow No

I think you need to check his stats before saying he could not play 2 games in a week! but then again he did miss a couple of games around New Year.8)
UTMM

I think the statement about being unable to play twice a week came from the club or Magnay himself. I also seem to recall it said " consistently " playing twice a week.

Could one of you Twitterers post this for Magnay:

http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?b-cs/
:)

Hartlepool fan has said he is close to agreeing a deal with them. Again all here say but he did make a point of ringing me this morning saying will happen early this week. Time will tell

Seems odd as Hartlepool is about the same distance from Leeds as GY...

Quoted from 935

Seems odd as Hartlepool is about the same distance from Leeds as GY...

He could move back to the North East where his family are though.

Quoted from 75

I worry about Carl's knee. He suffered an ACL injury a few years ago and had to be nursed through games last season, he couldn't play two games in a week and I think towards the end of the season his form dropped a little bit. Is there a problem with his knee?

Quoted from gobby

I think you need to check his stats before saying he could not play 2 games in a week! but then again he did miss a couple of games around New Year.8)
UTMM

He said he needed an extra days rest after each game. Playing twice a week Sat/Tue is fine, but his problem was in playing twice in three days such as at Easter when he played the Saturday game against Gateshead but had to sit out the game on the Monday against Alfreton.

I'm starting to look at this slightly different now.

We have had the majority of our core players sign up very quickly which shows imo the wage being offered seems to be rather decent for our level.

Take Scott Brown he is from liverpool which is alot further than Leeds and he signed without much hesitation.

When you take into account the distance is Leeds really that far ? An hour and a quarter or so is not much in commuting miles nowadays.

If he signs he signs but as Paul said its all in place for him to do so if he wants to, its now coming to the question does he really want to ?

Good player and one I would want to keep but the novelty soon wears off and I'm sure if he leaves we will find someone else to show our appreciation to.

The grass ain't always greener Carl.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

I'm starting to look at this slightly different now.

We have had the majority of our core players sign up very quickly which shows imo the wage being offered seems to be rather decent for our level.

Take Scott Brown he is from liverpool which is alot further than Leeds and he signed without much hesitation.

When you take into account the distance is Leeds really that far ? An hour and a quarter or so is not much in commuting miles nowadays.

If he signs he signs but as Paul said its all in place for him to do so if he wants to, its now coming to the question does he really want to ?

Good player and one I would want to keep but the novelty soon wears off and I'm sure if he leaves we will find someone else to show our appreciation to.

The grass ain't always greener Carl.

Couldn't agree more! If he signs then great, if he doesn't then he'll just look like another one in a long line of badge kissing phoney's.

Over to you Carl...

Wait...

We agree ? ;D

Brown shares one of fentys houses in this area...

Quoted from jonnyboy82

Wait...

We agree ? ;D

I know, I nearly fell off my chair!

Hotdog's to celebrate.....

Wilkingers all round ;D

Brown and Mackreth house share I believe there was a video on the OS a few months ago a day in the life of with them to sharing , it was a smart place swimming pool as well

Signed for Hartlepool.

What a buffoon.

Well that's plenty of people's good mood from today shot!

Quoted from gtfc98

Signed for Hartlepool.

What a buffoon.

All that badge kissing, oh well he's only a right back!

Quoted from Strandty

Well that's plenty of people's good mood from today shot!

Honestly dont think Carl Magnay can derail this train!!!

Hartlepool, what a knobhead. We'll see him on the way past them.

We move on... Nothing more to say on the matter.

We move on. Thanks for your work last season Carl, you were a very good player but you're not irreplaceable. In Hurst We Trust.

Quoted from BIGChris

Honestly dont think Carl Magnay can derail this train!!!

Have to agree. If it had happened a week ago it would have been a real blow. The fact that so many players have already re-signed and the immediate success of operation promotion means I'm not actually that bothered. Would have liked him to stay but if anyone can find a good full back it's PH.

Footballers really do love talking out of their arses when bigging up supporters don't they...

It could have been the best day ever.......

Stay positive and move on.

He bloody loves Hartlepool. Best supporters in the world.

Ah well, he's from the north east isn't he? I'd imagine that moving closer to home, the lure of the Football League and perhaps a bit more cash must have been enough to tempt him.

A pity he hasn't signed for us again but I think the signings of Pearson and Gowling were of more importance. I trust Hurst to find a capable replacement.

Had the shop and naggers on my screen saver at work (along with Futch and super clive), any suggestions on replacements??

Very surprised at this, bit miffed off but like others have said he's replaceable, we move on.

Could the big His Name is Carl Magnay banner be added as a reward to the crowdfunding site now?!

Shame he has gone but was always on the cards.

It's his choice closer to home and offered more money who can blame him really oh forgot to add there in the football league.

If this had happened before Pearson signed I would of been gutted, but loss though it is the great sucess of today and last Friday means I really don't mind. Slightly annoyed by the obvious false platitudes he seemed to give off but we have a great bunch that have stayed here and I care far more about them!

UTM

We achieved the playoffs twice before without Carl and can at least do so again. A move back to his native north east isn't surprising, rather hartlepool than a league rival

Quoted from Freemoash88

It's his choice closer to home and offered more money who can blame him really oh forgot to add there in the football league.

Quite.

Don't blame him at all. I never bought in to the badge kissing nonsense. Those who do it tend to be the least loyal!

I have a feeling that the reason this isn't on the website is because we are about to announce it at the same time as a new signing today.

people calling him names is bit harsh.

but what i will say, is why don't the fans take to the loyal players more ?

McKeown, Disley, Pearson - these 3 have been here 4+ years if i am correct ? and all 3 can play at least a league above, these are the kind of players we want at this club !

Can't blame him for said reasons but we move on and hope no 'fans' turn on the club over this.

I think Magnay should donate to Operationpromotion as a parting gift ;)

Good luck to the lad, closer to home in the North East, more money and football league, no brainer for me 8)
UTMM

He learned his badge kissing and media shite talking from some of the best in the game. Can't blame him for moving on though. An outstanding performer last season and deserves his step up. Good luck Carl. Now spend this Op Promo money wisely Paul!

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

people calling him names is bit harsh.

but what i will say, is why don't the fans take to the loyal players more ?

McKeown, Disley, Pearson - these 3 have been here 4+ years if i am correct ? and all 3 can play at least a league above, these are the kind of players we want at this club !

I think we can expect Pearson to become a true Town hero. An absolute class act on and off the pitch, and the fact he turned down more money elsewhere to (hopefully) lead us to promotion has perhaps reminded us all how lucky we are to have him.

Source?

Never mind....just seen it

Calling him a buffoon for signing for a Football League side closer to home is a touch harsh. Put in a superb shift for us last season and was a big part of the positive 'togetherness' between players and fans last season.

He's done what all of us would do in the same situation, he's gone for the deal that makes most sense for him and his family. Good luck to him.

There's been 27 pages of weeping & wailing, let's crack on with #operationpromotion.

Hopefully this might help convince Toto to stop if he's to be first choice RB.

Good player, had a very good season and has moved up a notch nearer to home. Football is a short career and he has gone with what is best for him. Good while it lasted but he aint Town, we are.

Quoted from ska face

There's been 27 pages of weeping & wailing, let's crack on with #operationpromotion.

Hopefully this might help convince Toto to stop if he's to be first choice RB.

I reckon we could do better in the RB department than have Toto there. Don't get me wrong he's an excellent center back but he's a pretty average right back.

Quoted from Lumpsleftbreast

Can't blame him for said reasons but we move on and hope no 'fans' turn on the club over this.

I think Magnay should donate to Operationpromotion as a parting gift ;)

He should chuck in that petrol money he is now saving.....

Toto isn't nearly good enough on the ball to play right-back regularly. He invariably manages to pick out an opposition player whenever he tries to pass it out from the back. OK as cover, but no more.

the name on the front is more important than the one on the back. Carls History, and utm for next season, we can go up without him

Hurst forte is signing good defenders, so i'm not worried about a right back, who does have a dodgy knee remember. He'll get a suitable replacement in.

Not concerned at all about the defence, it's the strikers we have to get right.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Calling him a buffoon for signing for a Football League side closer to home is a touch harsh. Put in a superb shift for us last season and was a big part of the positive 'togetherness' between players and fans last season.

He's done what all of us would do in the same situation, he's gone for the deal that makes most sense for him and his family. Good luck to him.

If he'd said that was the case instead of blowing smoke up our arses about petrol money being the main reason he was stalling on signing a new contract and making baseless and factually incorrect assertions about a reduced playing budget this season then I think we'd be more accepting of his decision. Trying to manipulate the club and supporters after spending the whole season banging on about us being the best supported club outside the championship doesn't sit well with me.

If he loved it that much here then he'd have moved closer. It's not like north east Lincs is the costliest place in the world to live.

No problem whatsoever with Magnay moving into the Football league as i think we ll agree he is at least League 2 quality.

A little peeved about the travelling excuse,as from his home (i wont post exactly were that is) it is 64.1miles from BP and 76.1 Miles from Hartlepools ground! (and 18mins longer according to AA route planner) ;)

We move on.

Carl Magnaycannot de-rail the momentum of this promotion train!!!!

Quoted from ginnywings

Good player, had a very good season and has moved up a notch nearer to home. Football is a short career and he has gone with what is best for him. Good while it lasted but he aint Town, we are.

this

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/article/hartlepool-sign-carl-magnay-from-grimsby-town-2477655.aspx

Had to be Ronnie Moore the old yorkie shithead always hated Grimsby.

Time to ditch the masks and Banners guys and move on send them to Jeff Sterling.

Leeds to Hartlepool 80 mile Leeds to GY 70 mile.
yeah the distance must have been the clincher Carl ......................................lol

Quoted from BIGChris

No problem whatsoever with Magnay moving into the Football league as i think we ll agree he is at least League 2 quality.

A little peeved about the travelling excuse,as from his home (i wont post exactly were that is) it is 64.1miles from BP and 76.1 Miles from Hartlepools ground! (and 18mins longer according to AA route planner) ;)

We move on.

Carl Magnaycannot de-rail the momentum of this promotion train!!!!

This! With bells on.

I still think the reason it isn't on the OS is because they are also about to release news on a new signing today. Shoot me if I'm wrong

It may be further to Hartlepool but he is no doubt being paid more and he has gone up a division, so you can't really blame him. He's also a N.E. lad.

Same average gates as Hartlepool, but League 2 clubs receive an extra around 300K youth funding grant and at least 240K (2013/14 figures) for being in the league.

Average League 2 wages in 2013 was between £1,300 to £1,500 a week, how much do our players earn? Maybe £800 a week max?

I don't know about you lot, but I would love a nice £500 a week pay rise!

Quoted from BIGChris

A little peeved about the travelling excuse,as from his home (i wont post exactly were that is) it is 64.1miles from BP and 76.1 Miles from Hartlepools ground!

Currently drawing circles with the appropriate radii centred on the two grounds. Where they intersect is where his house is. I'm coming for you Maggers.

It appears to be out in the North Sea which is odd but my circles logic is sound so I'm sorting a boat out.

Quoted from ginnywings

Good player, had a very good season and has moved up a notch nearer to home. Football is a short career and he has gone with what is best for him. Good while it lasted but he aint Town, we are.

Absolutely.

I mentioned on another thread that we have to accept football is a professional game and players have to make the same decisions that the rest of us about their futures.

This bloke has enjoyed being here but everyone has their own situation and ambition to consider. I wouldn't bad mouth him at all. He played well for Town and gave value for money. This season isn't last season. He moves on. We move on.

Someone will fill his space. The ability across the squad, the overall balance and the team spirit are the most important things.

Delete this thread and all other threads , photos and memories of him and lets move on.
Lets face it he was only a full back anyway and we all know that was the crap players position at school with the instructions of 'if in doubt kick it out'

It was more the cost than the distance, if he is able to car share then its cheaper if a bit longer or maybe, perhaps, they offered him more money!

He was class but his knee always gave me worries.

As Meanwood Mariner says - if anybody can find a Full Back it's Paul Hurst.

Sod him, no player is bigger than GTFC.

Whoever we sign through the Boost the Budget campaign will be an instant hit... Carl who?

Not sure why some fans are getting abusive, it's not that long ago he was the fans favourite and POTY.

I think you will find in most cases a player's favourite club is the one he is currently playing for.

I'm sure the opportunity to play at a higher level and more than likely higher wages are the reason behind his move.

Thanks for his performances last season and let's look to his replacement.

Unfortunately, this is how football is these days. Ok with him moving on. I just don't like all the "loyalty banter, and comments about travel costs etc".

We will progress with the players who really want to be here.

It is a terrible shame, as he was a key gem and an amazing player recreated by Hurst: from Gateshead reject to easily the best RB in the league.

He was so instrumental last term and worked well with the squad, but who is to say Hurst wont pluck another reject for free, and do the same?

UTM

We can probably wave to him coming the other way in May as we go up and Hartlepool come down. Because they are most definitely relegation fodder this time around.

As Hurst said, if he'd have really wanted to be a part of the club next season he'd have signed. Not saying I hope he doesn't regret it! Hard to replace but not impossible.

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

I think we can expect Pearson to become a true Town hero. An absolute class act on and off the pitch, and the fact he turned down more money elsewhere to (hopefully) lead us to promotion has perhaps reminded us all how lucky we are to have him.

Quite. Pearson was the irreplaceable one, he is head and shoulders above the other centre backs in this league IMO and the fact he's stayed so loyal for so long after so many disappointments is incredible. Add in to that the work he does off the pitch and we are exceedingly lucky to have him.

Still not on the OS... Theyre clearly not too bothered ....

Very disappointed, great player, good look to him. We move on.

Just seeing on twitter that he is moving back to the North East so will significantly reduce his commute.

Kind of want to kill this thread now as it has all been said, can understand him moving, shame he gave it the big mouth about us being the greatest but I will still him wish him luck going forward, espically as he has gone to a club in a different league to us. I want to focus on those who are staying as they are the ones who will take us forward!

Can we have our player of the year award back and give it to a real Town legend in the making, Shaun Pearson :)

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

Currently drawing circles with the appropriate radii centred on the two grounds. Where they intersect is where his house is. I'm coming for you Maggers.

It appears to be out in the North Sea which is odd but my circles logic is sound so I'm sorting a boat out.

Are you multiplying with Pi to calculate the circumference of your circle to its diameter? GrimRob will help you with Pythagoras (thumbup)

[img]http://i.imgur.com/vXLZWJ5.png[/img]
[url=https://twitter.com/carlmagnay_icon]https://twitter.com/carlmagnay_icon[/url]

Disappointed he has left. Had a great season with us and so has deserved a step up to the league.

To me it makes the retention of Pearson even more significant. Albeit different positions but equally as key players imo.

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

Currently drawing circles with the appropriate radii centred on the two grounds. Where they intersect is where his house is. I'm coming for you Maggers.

It appears to be out in the North Sea which is odd but my circles logic is sound so I'm sorting a boat out.

Ahoy! Me too. Quickest boat gets the bait!

Im surprised he's left. As much as I didn't buy into all the badge kissing, I still thought he loved being at Gy. Obviously not or theyre breaking the bank

end of the day he came played well went home , were bigger than any player as a club and like so many have stated for anyone in this division can find a full back its Paul Hurst. #InHurstweTrust

Quoted from gytone

Can we have our player of the year award back and give it to a real Town legend in the making, Shaun Pearson :)

Well he got the All That and a Bag of Chips Fantasy Player of the Season award!

[url]https://richmariner.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/grimsby-towns-player-of-the-season-according-to-fantasy-football-points-is/[/url]

Good bye Magers and good luck, it's not going to be easy kissing the badge of a poor team set for the conference.

Good player, gave his all while he was here and has now moved up the ladder so to speak, good luck Carl we move on

Quoted from Marinerz93

Good bye Magers and good luck, it's not going to be easy kissing the badge of a poor team set for the conference.

It certainly looked like Hartlepool were destined for relegation for quite a while last season.

Good luck Carl though I hope you apologised to PH and JF for doing that interview last week because, in the context of what's happened since, I think you were out of order.

Gutted :( All the best, Carl!

Hartlepool? Jesus. Must be about money.. Poor move Maggers, had a great thing here.

Quoted from 75

Hartlepool, what a knobhead. We'll see him on the way past them.

Pearson signed... And he shows same amount if not more promise as Magnay.. This baffles me.. It's hardly a reusable offer from an amazing club. Money grabbing illegitimate :P like him whilst he was here though .

I think we should credit Paul Hurst (never thought I'd find myself typing that).
He pretty much said 'take it or leave it' and Maggers left it. NO-ONE is good enough to hold this club to ransom. I don't particularly wish him well nor otherwise. One season does not make a legend in my eyes.
He's gone, He'll be replaced and we'll start again. A loss, but not a great loss. Players now know we don't pay silly money and team spirit will not be disrupted. I am still the most optimistic pre-season than I have been since joining this league.

Thanks Maggers. See ya.

We only want 100% committed players. End of.

I really don't understand the ill feeling on here - he is a very good player at this level who gave his all for the Club. He wasn't happy about the offer he received so he went elsewhere....footballers have families and commitments like the rest of us. Yes, he was wrong for talking to RH about it but he more than earned his money last season and I wish him well. Both he, and Grimsby Town will move on!

Magnay has not done himself any favours he should have kept his big gob shut no player is bigger than the club.

Time to move on please.

So much for the love of the club and fans,

He will not have the amount of fans loving him at Harlepool,

BUT

Good luck to him, we move on.

Carl who ? Forgotten him already ;)

Shame, he did well for us so I wish him well.

Now where's that amazing new signing who's playing full back for us?!

Was the Lincoln full back Miller at the club the other day ?

Is he good enough to be 1st choice ?

Think he would be good enough and can play cb too. Could be a good replacememt and Lincoln fans seem v keen to keep him.

Quoted from grimsby pete

So much for the love of the club and fans,

He will not have the amount of fans loving him at Harlepool,

BUT

Good luck to him, we move on.

They're better supported than us.....at home at least.

[img]http://img.humorsharing.com/media/images/1202/i_1352_overcrowded-overloaded-vehicles-017.jpg[/img]

maggers on his way up to Hartlepool milking that car share.

Good luck playing for Ronnie Nomore !!!!!!!!!

Quoted from tarka

I really don't understand the ill feeling on here - he is a very good player at this level who gave his all for the Club. He wasn't happy about the offer he received so he went elsewhere....footballers have families and commitments like the rest of us. Yes, he was wrong for talking to RH about it but he more than earned his money last season and I wish him well. Both he, and Grimsby Town will move on!

Some of the ill feeling has come from what he said to people outside of what has been reported. Citing fuel / travelling and that he was desperate to stay to get Town promoted, when all along he would have been better keeping his mouth shut or being honest and say he has has to review his options.

Good luck to the bloke. Sure he gave his best whilst in a Town shirt so I for one wish him all the best.
He's done what is best for him and his family I'm sure everyone on here would do the same if they wouldn't they are idiots.

Can't blame him for getting the best deal for himself and his career. If staying in/at Grimsby was the only honourable decision none of us exiles and former exiles would have left home.

Having said that, I can't help feeling that, like the Shop, he's taking a bit of a risk.

Good luck Maggers.

Gutted came home from work when i found out he's left, been waiting to see if he has signed. I can't blame him moving closer with his family in the north east he will be a tough player to replace with the ease that he had played at RB and LB and could also play CB aswell real diamond of player.

I thought he was the best LB in the league when he played against us for Gateshead, and when he got released i thought we could do with him and PH signed him just a shame he never signed a extra year i know 2 year deals can fail like say a Joe Colbeck or Paddy with no disrespect to them but he's a huge loss.

But his RB position hopefully could be vacated by say Tom Miller if we where able to get him, but we still need cover for LB now.

Quoted from jonnyboy82

[img]http://img.humorsharing.com/media/images/1202/i_1352_overcrowded-overloaded-vehicles-017.jpg[/img]

maggers on his way up to Hartlepool milking that car share.

Superb, sad to lose him but time to move on, that's football

Actually thinking on he's better than Hartlepool is he "selling himself" short?

Bit of a strange one this - Carl has performed so well this season that the Town fans have voted him player of the year, and he is so well appreciated.

So to end up at Hartlepool (which to be fair) is a poor club, probably further away from Leeds than Grimsby - best of luck with that - sad for the lad.

well he did say the club he was talking to was so much smaller than Grimsby. He's gonna have an interesting time explaining that one away to his new fans.

Whatever happens, I wish him the best, unfortunate interview aside, he seemed to give everything he had to the cause, and you cannot ask more than that really

Quoted from Teestogreen

Bit of a strange one this - Carl has performed so well this season that the Town fans have voted him player of the year, and he is so well appreciated.

So to end up at Hartlepool (which to be fair) is a poor club, probably further away from Leeds than Grimsby - best of luck with that - sad for the lad.

He did say that he was moving back to Durham to be near his family.

Perhaps Durham City might sign him next season :) or Spennymoor / Bishop Auckland / West Auckland / Billingham S. If Premier League players thought like this, there would be no one in it.

It's a no-brainer for him really. Moving back up to be nearer his family, pretty much no commuting involved at all, Durham is a nice area, the Pools are in the Football League and he'll probably be earning more than he would have done here.

Normally, I don't think anybody would do anything but wish him well, but the comments on the radio last week left a bit of a nasty taste for me as it seems to me he was trying to publicly manipulate the club to try and get more money elsewhere.

Don't care about what he does now as, unlike some former players, we'll not be playing against him next season.

Just hope that Hurst can sort us out a replacement as capable as Robertson has been on our left.

Having visited the place, Hartlepool is a poor North Eastern man's Cleethorpes!

I bet our dog shite on the streets around the ground is better. ;)

Can't blame the bloke for wanting to work 15 minutes from home and at a higher level. There have been several times in my working life when I've wished the same thing!

Well he's gone now and Hurst needs to find a replacement. I think what we will miss the most is Magnay's ability to play LB when needed. It was always an easy fix for a game or two. We have players who can slot in at RB but LB is always more tricky. For that reason I wouldn't be surprised if we see a utility defender arriving.

it makes you ask the question was he living in Leeds when he played for Gateshead or was he living with his family ?????

Quoted from livosnose

it makes you ask the question was he living in Leeds when he played for Gateshead or was he living with his family ?????

Who cares ? Surprised to see this thread in the promo spots still 😉

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It's a no-brainer for him really. Moving back up to be nearer his family, pretty much no commuting involved at all, Durham is a nice area, the Pools are in the Football League and he'll probably be earning more than he would have done here.

Normally, I don't think anybody would do anything but wish him well, but the comments on the radio last week left a bit of a nasty taste for me as it seems to me he was trying to publicly manipulate the club to try and get more money elsewhere.

Don't care about what he does now as, unlike some former players, we'll not be playing against him next season.

Just hope that Hurst can sort us out a replacement as capable as Robertson has been on our left.

We'll get them in the First Round of the FA Cup next season. :)

Sad to see him go and thought he would of stayed

I liked Magnay and yes he was a good player in an excellent Town defence but he's gone and he's now history, After last weeks fiasco with the media I would imagine PH knew he would be gone and has already earmarked his replacement. There will be other defenders out there that will be more than happy to join Town. UTM.

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Bit of a strange one this - Carl has performed so well this season that the Town fans have voted him player of the year, and he is so well appreciated.

So to end up at Hartlepool (which to be fair) is a poor club, probably further away from Leeds than Grimsby - best of luck with that - sad for the lad.

I seem to remember something about them being taken over last season. At Christmas they were nailed on relegation favourites yet survived. Perhaps the financial clout of their backers showed through and they will be a force to be reckoned with next season. Magnay is a very good signing for them...

All the best to him but to let the head rule the heart... always follow your heart! He says will be a well wisher following results, well not in a nasty way I hope him and LJL feel a sense of regret watching from afar the epic scenes as Operation Promotion unfolds and knowing they could have been a part of going down in the folklore of this famous old football club.

But like I say, all the best.

Its the badge on the front that's important not the name on the back, hate when these players kiss the badge, clearly means nothing to them really.
Only James and Shaun have shown any loyalty to our club in recent years.

Be interesting to see who has the best average home attendance us or Hartlepool.

Quoted from The Yard Dog

Its the badge on the front that's important not the name on the back, hate when these players kiss the badge, clearly means nothing to them really.
Only James and Shaun have shown any loyalty to our club in recent years.

Be interesting to see who has the best average home attendance us or Hartlepool.

Attendances for us and Hartlepool are nearly identical. Disley has been here a long time!

Quoted from barralad

I seem to remember something about them being taken over last season. At Christmas they were nailed on relegation favourites yet survived. Perhaps the financial clout of their backers showed through and they will be a force to be reckoned with next season. Magnay is a very good signing for them...

Agree with that.
I suppose that the circumstances in which Carl was signed last August (was it Harrogate Town on the pitch?) and then didn't seem to live any nearer than Leeds allegedly, was probably a pointer to where his heart was.
But, having said that, to put in the sort of season that he did with the Mariners is a credit to him - all the best to Carl.
I have 2 colleagues, who are Hartlepool supporters, and they think they have just got out of jail, considering the 'Poolies' dire league position last Christmas.

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Attendances for us and Hartlepool are nearly identical. Disley has been here a long time!

How could I forget Disley, busy skipping between the thefishy and Crowdfunder

He's obviously made what he thinks is the best decision for his family and his future. Nobody should slate him for that as we all would have done that in the same circumstances. He certainly will be missed but is not irreplaceable. The aspect of his game that is hard to replace is his versatility. Any player who can play both left and right back is of great benefit to any team whatever level and that is the bit that could prove difficult to replace. Good luck for the future Maggers and thanx for a good season.

Quoted from rancido

He's obviously made what he thinks is the best decision for his family and his future. Nobody should slate him for that as we all would have done that in the same circumstances. He certainly will be missed but is not irreplaceable. The aspect of his game that is hard to replace is his versatility. Any player who can play both left and right back is of great benefit to any team whatever level and that is the bit that could prove difficult to replace. Good luck for the future Maggers and thanx for a good season.

I agree with that. I think he has other qualities which we need to try to re-establish (won't be easy) - composure, concentration and massive enthusiasm. As you say; not irreplaceable but will be a hard act to follow. A great pro in my opinion.