Quoted from ginnywings

Doesn't sound like an individual to me. Maybe a big company looking to build houses or a supermarket-something along those lines. Whoever it is, things are looking promising.

Quoted from Rik e B

Did I just see Bonetti at Shell on end of A180? Probably just imaging it.

Does Adam Wotsit own Wotsits crisps? He could be worth a few bob

Quoted from jock dock tower

Never thought I'd say this, but I hope it's Gideon (George) Osborne, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. If he can find £27 billion they day before his autumn statement, just think what we could do with any small change he may have forgotten about?

Quoted from RoboCod

I hear both of the above are going into partnership with Chicken-buffet flavoured Wotsits, it's all coming together for us at the right time.

Quoted from Rik e B

Did I just see Bonetti at Shell on end of A180? Probably just imaging it.

Does Adam Wotsit own Wotsits crisps? He could be worth a few bob

Quoted from jock dock tower

Never thought I'd say this, but I hope it's Gideon (George) Osborne, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. If he can find £27 billion they day before his autumn statement, just think what we could do with any small change he may have forgotten about?

Quoted from Civvy at last

Spotted David Ross in Steels last night  :)

Quoted from CockneyMariner

Steve Morgan?
Chairman and founder of Redrow Plc.
Recently stepped down as chairman of Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Loves football and building houses.
Grimsby Town need to build a stadium by means of a housing development.
Total guess but it would make sense.

Quoted from CockneyMariner

Steve Morgan?
Chairman and founder of Redrow Plc.
Recently stepped down as chairman of Wolverhampton Wanderers.
Loves football and building houses.
Grimsby Town need to build a stadium by means of a housing development.
Total guess but it would make sense.

Quoted from Rik e B

Flying across a dressing room near you!

Quoted from headingly_mariner

I imagine it will be a house building company closely connected to one of our existing shareholders.

Quoted from ginnywings

I heard the name Dudley Ramsden mentioned at the weekend. Not sure what to make of that but deadly Dudley is seriously minted and Ramsdens have applied to build a shopping village recently, which the council were not keen on. Maybe a Ramsdens shopping village at Peaks Parkway?

Quoted from rancido

Could be but after he fell out with the club a few years back I would be very surprised if he wanted to get involved again.

Quoted from ginnywings

Agreed and i hadn't even given him a thought 'til someone mentioned his name. There will be all sorts of names thrown around but Ramsden has got previous, is local and is minted. Who knows what his plans are?

Quoted from rancido

I , for one , would be very wary if he got involved with the club again. I seem to recall when he was a director he loaned the club a considerable sum of money ( £350,000 ? ) .Then when he couldn't get his own way over some issue he resigned as a director and immediately demanded his loan back. I don't recall the full details but I seem to remember it was along those lines and caused the club a lot of problems.

Quoted from moosey_club

You mean....JF's other company interest??

Quoted from barralad

Hasn't J.F. sold his holdings in Topcon?

Quoted from ginnywings

I heard the name Dudley Ramsden mentioned at the weekend. Not sure what to make of that but deadly Dudley is seriously minted and Ramsdens have applied to build a shopping village recently, which the council were not keen on. Maybe a Ramsdens shopping village at Peaks Parkway?

Quoted from ginnywings

I heard the name Dudley Ramsden mentioned at the weekend. Not sure what to make of that but deadly Dudley is seriously minted and Ramsdens have applied to build a shopping village recently, which the council were not keen on. Maybe a Ramsdens shopping village at Peaks Parkway?

Quoted from gtfc98

Only speculating but I think it is going to be a much bigger retailer than Ramsdens.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

You'd be surprised how big the Ramsdens empire is these days. It isn't just a supermarket at Park Street and a few bits and pieces.

Quoted from Civvy at last

One for the oldies.

If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.

Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25,  I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.

£6.99 a pair. SOLD

Quoted from Civvy at last

One for the oldies.

If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.

Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25,  I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.

£6.99 a pair. SOLD

Quoted from Civvy at last

One for the oldies.

If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.

Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25,  I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.

£6.99 a pair. SOLD

Quoted from Civvy at last

One for the oldies.

If we can get the Freeman Street site, Mad Harry could be making a comeback.

Listen ladies, if you bought these from Marks and Spencer you'd pay £25 to £30. I don't want £25,  I don't want £20, £15 or even a tenner, £9 £8 or even £7.How many hands can I see being raised.
Over there, over there, over there, and over there.

£6.99 a pair. SOLD

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Spent a lot of time as a kid being dragged around Freemo and standing with my mum at Mad Harry's stall in the market. Apart from getting something from the sweetstall that was the one bright spot of the day as a kid.

Quoted from barralad

Being a bit older than you(I'd guess) the highlight of Freemo was definitely a milkshake sat at the "bar" in Woolies. We spent an insane amount of time at Mad Harry's but not nearly enough at the stall which sold broken biscuits.😥

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I always thought those broken biscuits didn't taste quite right. But then I was a picky kid. (whaddya mean I still am  ;) )

Vaguely remember the milkshake bar in the late 60s. Older sisters used to go there.

Completely off track of the thread now but I remember a toy shop down Cleethorpe Road (corner of Albion St?) and another shop (some sort of department store - not Lawson and Stockade) further down on the opposite side. IIRC. Used to get taken there when my grandad came home from sea in the run - up to Christmas.

Quoted from A.l.f.

Think you mean Whitby's toys where Elegant Lighting is next to the Albion and do you mean Craske & Smith that sold school uniforms etc?

Quoted from chelseacity

Anyone remember Samuels Bazaar on the high Street where all the pubs are, when we went in he (Mr Samuel i presume) followed us around like a hawk watching  it's  prey, so we went to Wilson's Bazaar instead which was much more relaxed shopping, though i was only 9/10 at the time, or Woolies which is now the new Wetherspoons.

Quoted from chelseacity

Anyone remember Samuels Bazaar on the high Street where all the pubs are, when we went in he (Mr Samuel i presume) followed us around like a hawk watching  it's  prey, so we went to Wilson's Bazaar instead which was much more relaxed shopping, though i was only 9/10 at the time, or Woolies which is now the new Wetherspoons.

Quoted from chelseacity

Anyone remember Samuels Bazaar on the high Street where all the pubs are, when we went in he (Mr Samuel i presume) followed us around like a hawk watching  it's  prey, so we went to Wilson's Bazaar instead which was much more relaxed shopping, though i was only 9/10 at the time, or Woolies which is now the new Wetherspoons.

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Sponsored the shirts 84 - 85

Quoted from Sigone

I remember the joke shop on the high street, used to be opposite Humphries/entrance to St Peters.  Now its the car park.  Also remember Norris the rubber man. Got my smart Lindsey school blazer from there, I was so proud till 1st day of school and found out it was the wrong colour  :B

Quoted from arryarryarry

My wife thought Norris the Rubber Man's was a sex shop.

Quoted from grimps

I can remember Normans Toy shop down St Peters Ave , I think they had one down Freemo too.
I used to get all my toy soldiers from there  8)

Quoted from barralad

When we first came to Grimsby in 1966 to look for a house I was bribed  to put up with trailing round loads of houses with a box of Airfix 00 scale British WW1 soldiers from Normans.
Later when I was hooked on Subbuteo Evingtons in town was the place to be.

Quoted from scoregasm

Don't forget Loftus on Grimsby Rd / Elliston St corner.

Quoted from moss_side_mariner

That's the one I was trying to remember. Great for airfix and model trains.

Quoted from Civvy at last

As the guy responsible for the hi-jacking of this thread (I mentioned Mad Harrys), may I take this opportunity to apologise to anyone under the age of 174 who have no idea what us old farts are on about.  But maybe one day in about 30 years time you'll be doing the same about the old ground called Blundell Park.  The Parkway cinema, Freeman St etc etc.

Your turn will come yoof, and quicker than you would realise.

Quoted from RalphFilthy

Is Hewins still there? - was near the mcdonalds in town

Quoted from Civvy at last

As the guy responsible for the hi-jacking of this thread (I mentioned Mad Harrys), may I take this opportunity to apologise to anyone under the age of 174 who have no idea what us old farts are on about.  But maybe one day in about 30 years time you'll be doing the same about the old ground called Blundell Park.  The Parkway cinema, Freeman St etc etc.

Your turn will come yoof, and quicker than you would realise.

Quoted from gaz57

Yes my mam worked in that Woolies and I always remember going to the Bazaar to buy caps for my cowboy gun and the rocket you would throw has high as you could and hope it came down straight so that it would make a bang.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Loftus's was a great toy shop.  Although not the mystery investor here as they went bust.  :)

My dad and grandparents lived opposite Loftus's so I used to drool at their shop window before and after matches.   When I was a kid of course.

They don't make toy shops like that anymore.  

Quoted from Meza

Civvy the things we do as kids.....i use to be one of those annoying kids that messed about with BOYES lift lol

Quoted from ackomariner

What was the hotel called opposite side of the road to Loftus toy shop?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I'd completely forgotten about Normans.

Amazing how many toyshops there were around. What do kids do these days?

Think Hewins has gone now? Although that fits more into the model shop category like Loftus. For boys of all ages.

Quoted from Sigone

Board games are making a bit of a comeback though..Have you seen the complexity of them, not just shake a dice and move round the board now.  I've just played 'settlers of catan' and loved every minute of it.

Quoted from scoregasm

Humberside hotel

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

it does not matter who the mystery investor is because we will NEVER get permission to build the darn thing EVER.

More stalling tactics by our useless councilors.

http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Grimsby-Town-stadium-pros-cons-shortlisted-sites/story-28286522-detail/story.html

Quoted Text

  Fenty is a well-intentioned fan, living the dream of having the wealth to play a part in the fortunes of his team. In this respect, I salute him for putting his own money into the club. This is the point where the sympathy ends. Sorry John, but if your decisions directly increased the club's debt, that's your debt. The paid-up contracts, the sackings, the relegation. You're out of pocket, we're out of our minds. There comes a point when you've got to write it off. Your investment can go down as well as up, and all that.

Unfortunately – and perhaps unsurprisingly given his track record – he doesn't see it like this. The majority shareholder has ruled out all other stadium options and is set on Peaks Parkway. This isn't Neil Woods/Mike Newell vote of confidence certain. This is completely and utterly, hands-over-ears, Russ-is-never-worth-that certain. He says "common sense" rules out everywhere but Peaks Parkway.

Amid repeated mentions of "site masterplans", one master plan is apparent. One that enables the club to pay back £4million and some poxy mystery developer to afford another ivory back scratcher. The fans? We'll be left with a skip on a by-pass surrounded by concrete naffness while the town centre rots and the rest of GY along with it.

Politicians know that most of the electorate are lazy arses who don't want to think about complexity, to use their brain to make an informed choice. So they boil it all down to a couple of high-stakes, fear-inducing headline choices. Do you really want them immigrunts coming over stealing your benefits? Are you a terrorist sympathiser who wants to blow us up?

The club has done this with the stadium – do you want the club to survive? They don't need to provide most of the punters with the facts to back it up – hearing that question from a man in a nice suit is enough for the majority. In a moment of weakness I answered the club's rallying call last year and went with the trust party whip. All off a sudden we're told that 86 per cent want Peaks Parkway. You can uncount me now that we've seen the full facts.

Some might argue that Fenty has kept us afloat and he's entitled to favour the project that will get his cash back. I don't agree. The fans and the club's 137 years deserve a stadium built through a transparent process where the best site is picked for the right long-term reasons.

It's time for everyone concerned to do what's best for the long-term future of the club and the real community that it belongs to. Give the other sites a fair crack and ensure all funding options are fully examined. Identify every FSIF, EU, council, government, Young's Dockside Arena and supporter penny. For example, I haven't got it in my wallet (or my bank account for that matter) but I'd commit £1,000 a year for a season ticket for 10 years. Could we find another 1,000 loons willing to do the same? That's 10 million quid and we're halfway there. Crazy talk... but have we asked the question? There are other ways to do it (as Rapid Wien have found).

And I've said it before and will probably say it again – look at FC United. See if you can find "enabling development" in their stadium funding.

Luckily we have the trust and our two places on the board. They have toed the Peaks Parkway line to date, but I believe in the trust. Dave and Jon are our voices in the boardroom and if we shout loud enough long enough, the rest of the board will eventually have to listen.

Quoted from heppy88

Rik e B your post (and the Cod Almighty) sums up my thoughts exactly. I to went along with the whole Peaks Parkway scheme out of desperation for a new stadium, but all along my gut feeling was (and still is) that it is just not the RIGHT place for the ground. I sincerely believe the new ground should be at the heart of the community, as it has been for over 100 years. There is a wealth of information available online, moving away from the idea that "out of town" is the best place to relocate new stadia and inner city redevelopment is the way forward. The more I think about it and discuss with others the less I can see there being any advantage to having a new stadium at Peaks Parkway, apart of course the enabling development. But this should not be the overriding decisive factor. If a new stadium cannot be developed for all the right reasons, then it should not be built at all. The Town and football club has to get this right. The Peaks Parkway site, I believe, will lead ultimately to traffic congestion and will prove just too far out of the way for many to be bothered. I cannot see why a new ground if located at PP would increase attendances. The way Fenty is behaving, stubornly pushing the PP option, when the council are trying to make the RIGHT decision BEST for the town, leaves a bitter taste.

Quoted from barralad

A good post IMO but some aspects need challenging in the interest of furthering the debate.
Firstly you have to decide what "The community" actually is. It is unarguable that a site in Freeman St. or the "Top Town" area would be built in an area more densely populated but for a stadium to be built for the benefit of the WHOLE of the area covered by N.E. Lincs neither site comes close to being central to the area. Geographically Peakes Parkway is pretty close to being in the centre of N.E. Lincs. From the football clubs point of view they will have a pretty good idea of where their fan base is based informed by ticket sales and that information will have helped to inform the decision.
Secondly lets deal with the point about traffic congestion. It is quite frankly ludicrous to suggest that only the Peakes Parkway site will see traffic chaos. The majority of the people who use their cars to get to Blundell Park would continue to do so as people exercise their right to avoid public transport. Freeman St as a whole is served by no more bus services than Blundell Park. The difference with the two town centre sites is that the car traffic would be adding to already huge numbers of cars using the roads around the Town centre on the busiest shopping day of the week. The other aspect to consider is that with a Community Stadium providing other as yet unnamed facilities will see a general increase in traffic volumes. It is fair to say that with the size of crowds currently attending Blundell Park the congestion is not as serious as it might be. However I'm sure that all Town fans and the club want to see us far higher up the pyramid. What happens then? I shudder to think of the difficulties with large crowds on a fairly regular basis should we reach the Championship. These crowds would contain a large contingent of away fans adding to the road problems. In my mind it would be a lot easier to manage the traffic on ONE of the roads into town than attempt to alter the whole of the network in a very built up area.
The third point is regarding choosing the right spot or not moving at all. If you accept the view coming out of the club backed by continued figures showing substantial losses year on year that Blundell Park is unsustainable then not to move isn't an option if we are to continue to have a football club bailed out by one mans money. If outside investment could be attracted that position may well change.
In light of this it is also worth pointing out that any project to build on Freeman St. would take 10 years by the councjl's own estimate.
It should also be remembered that initially the Peakes Parkway site was offered to GTFC by the NELC Labour Party cabinet. All other action regarding feasibility has stemmed from that. Having said that it is true that the goalposts have been moved by the decision taken to knock down the Freeman St. flats.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

The big word is IF in all this however IF the Council guaranteed Freemo in 10 years for a new ground would that be acceptable? I for one think Freemo/Docks is the best and most sensible place to build a ground due to it being fairly central,straight off the motorway and pubs etc in the vicinity.PP whilst I supported it out of desperation like may others would not be my first choice and do we really need to build on greenbelt land when we have adequate brown belt as the Council are pointing out.I have battered the Council for many things over many years and feel they have never helped this Football Club at all however this time around I think they seem very positive and I have more confidence that this ground will happen.Just where?

Quoted from barralad

A good post IMO but some aspects need challenging in the interest of furthering the debate.
Firstly you have to decide what "The community" actually is. It is unarguable that a site in Freeman St. or the "Top Town" area would be built in an area more densely populated but for a stadium to be built for the benefit of the WHOLE of the area covered by N.E. Lincs neither site comes close to being central to the area. Geographically Peakes Parkway is pretty close to being in the centre of N.E. Lincs. From the football clubs point of view they will have a pretty good idea of where their fan base is based informed by ticket sales and that information will have helped to inform the decision.
Secondly lets deal with the point about traffic congestion. It is quite frankly ludicrous to suggest that only the Peakes Parkway site will see traffic chaos. The majority of the people who use their cars to get to Blundell Park would continue to do so as people exercise their right to avoid public transport. Freeman St as a whole is served by no more bus services than Blundell Park. The difference with the two town centre sites is that the car traffic would be adding to already huge numbers of cars using the roads around the Town centre on the busiest shopping day of the week. The other aspect to consider is that with a Community Stadium providing other as yet unnamed facilities will see a general increase in traffic volumes. It is fair to say that with the size of crowds currently attending Blundell Park the congestion is not as serious as it might be. However I'm sure that all Town fans and the club want to see us far higher up the pyramid. What happens then? I shudder to think of the difficulties with large crowds on a fairly regular basis should we reach the Championship. These crowds would contain a large contingent of away fans adding to the road problems. In my mind it would be a lot easier to manage the traffic on ONE of the roads into town than attempt to alter the whole of the network in a very built up area.
The third point is regarding choosing the right spot or not moving at all. If you accept the view coming out of the club backed by continued figures showing substantial losses year on year that Blundell Park is unsustainable then not to move isn't an option if we are to continue to have a football club bailed out by one mans money. If outside investment could be attracted that position may well change.
In light of this it is also worth pointing out that any project to build on Freeman St. would take 10 years by the councjl's own estimate.
It should also be remembered that initially the Peakes Parkway site was offered to GTFC by the NELC Labour Party cabinet. All other action regarding feasibility has stemmed from that. Having said that it is true that the goalposts have been moved by the decision taken to knock down the Freeman St. flats.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I'm not totally convinced a town centre site (or any location for that matter) will generate the town. Construction will create jobs temporarily (which is not to be sniffed at). Where new sports facilities create new business and jobs it tends to be in the immediate vicinity but there's a large element of displacement.

People only have so much money to spend, and unless it attracts more people to the area, you're just moving the spending from one part of town to another. Now a new ground with better facilities might attract more people to go to the match but that probably just means they won't spend that money on something else. That's good if they would otherwise spend the money on something that wouldn't benefit the local economy (Amazon, Sky/BT/Virgin, weekend in Bridlington) but I wouldn't overplay the benefits of redevelopment.

Having said that, Top Town for me is looking like the best prospect. Its right at the centre of public transport (all buses head there), it's closer to the A180 than PP. It's not far from the station. For all the hordes of away fans that will clog up the roads in the town centre if we make it back into the big time, we will have the same problem at PP with none of the public transport benefits. And none of the erm, social benefits, of Top Town pubs and eateries.

As someone pointed out to me today, a football ground is a cultural facility in the same way that a church (or I suppose museum) is. Would anyone suggest relocating Lincoln cathedral because it's difficult to drive to?

One final point, do we know what it would cost to construct a stadium with 14,000 capacity? I have the figure of £22m in my head but I don't know if that's come from any "official" source or just from gossip on here. And do we know how much that would cost to maintain compared to what Blundell Park costs? I keep hearing that BP is unsustainable, but how much is it?

Quoted from mariner2000

http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Freeman-Street-florists-close-shop-vile-abuse/story-28298818-detail/story.html

I think if you are to beleive and read the points raised by the shop owner above, and I have no reason to dispute, then I would argue this is exactly what everyone thinks freemo is like.#

I also cannot aee how squashing a football stadium in next to that is really going to make any difference.

As I have said before, are you really going to want to leave your car near there or take you kid with you or let your teenager risk going on their own, exactly what sort of shops, cafes etc would be interested in this amazing retail opportunity?

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

I'm not trying to push for the Freemo site at all but I think you are missing the point. The ground would not be surrounded by slums and druggies. Putting the ground there would be one small part of a total regeneration of the area by a developer and the council. Hence the 10 years.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Have we got a spare 10 years?

Quoted from rancido

I find all this emphasis on existing access routes a bit of a non-starter. Much is made on any site being close to the A180 but apart from visiting fans how many football fans coming into town use this route compared to those from the rest of the town? I would imagine a greater number come down the Peaks Parkway from the Walthams, Scartho and Holton le Clay areas. The Peaks Parkway has the ability to be turned into a dual-carriageway ( which it should have been in the first place ) and certainly will be in the future when more out of town development is done in that direction. Surely it would be better for the football traffic to come down the Parkway for half its length to access a ground than to travel the full distance into the centre of town and create more of a bottle neck in the centre. We also have the rail link mentioned but the only stations that are used for connections to other major areas only stop at Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes. None of the Rail Companies that use the route into Grimsby would change their timetables to accommodate  stopping at Grimsby Docks or Clee Sidings just because of possible football related passengers on 23 occasions a year - it just won't happen. There are no bus routes on the Parkway but they will come once the area becomes developed. Bus routes were introduced once the Willows Estate was developed in the late 60's and that service was extended when Wybers Wood was built in the late 70's. Once an area comes into commercial/habitation use then the public bus service will follow.

Quoted from rancido

I find all this emphasis on existing access routes a bit of a non-starter. Much is made on any site being close to the A180 but apart from visiting fans how many football fans coming into town use this route compared to those from the rest of the town? I would imagine a greater number come down the Peaks Parkway from the Walthams, Scartho and Holton le Clay areas. The Peaks Parkway has the ability to be turned into a dual-carriageway ( which it should have been in the first place ) and certainly will be in the future when more out of town development is done in that direction. Surely it would be better for the football traffic to come down the Parkway for half its length to access a ground than to travel the full distance into the centre of town and create more of a bottle neck in the centre. We also have the rail link mentioned but the only stations that are used for connections to other major areas only stop at Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes. None of the Rail Companies that use the route into Grimsby would change their timetables to accommodate  stopping at Grimsby Docks or Clee Sidings just because of possible football related passengers on 23 occasions a year - it just won't happen. There are no bus routes on the Parkway but they will come once the area becomes developed. Bus routes were introduced once the Willows Estate was developed in the late 60's and that service was extended when Wybers Wood was built in the late 70's. Once an area comes into commercial/habitation use then the public bus service will follow.

Quoted from grimps

They've tried allsorts over the years to regenerate Freemo, it's just been a total waste.
Freemo will never rise from the ashes and even a football ground wouldn't make a difference.
Not one penny more should be wasted on that dump of an area

Quoted from barralad

Excellent points for me about the redistribution of spending. I can't agree about the potential for job creation. We don't know the  nature of the investment yet but if it is retail and we get some concrete plans there is plenty of evidence around the country that developments attract other retailers anxious for a slice of the pie. Pub and retail food companies are always looking for opportunities to sell a few more pints/pies. It's not my scene particularly but there is no doubt that it creates jobs.
As for relocating Lincoln cathedral (LMAO)....the example hardly mirrors the situation at B.P. When Lincoln cathedral starts to fall down people from all over the place throw money at the repairs. Once B.P.is recognised as a major site of worship the C of E might cough up. Until then we are reliant on St.  John..

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Slightly tongue in cheek reference to the big church on the hill. But it was meant as a comment about a little difficulty in getting there not putting people off if the overall experience is worthwhile. There will be traffic congestion if it's a town centre site but it won't be insufferable.

Pubs and shops are closing left right and centre. And I'm not sure there's such a big unmet demand in NELincs for more eateries, that will persuade people to spend spare cash that they would otherwise have saved.

If there are better facilities in a town, then that increases the chances of attracting people (and companies) to relocate but it's quite a step from having a new football ground to growing as an economy.

Overall though, the case will be strengthened by some hard numbers.

Quoted from rancido

Beechwood Farm ( ? ) seems to be doing ok on the Europarc and you can't get much more out of town and still be within the developed part of NE Lincs.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Do you mean everywhere else is so busy that people trek all the way out there for a skate and chips or whatever, or is it a real cheffy place that can only be bettered if it was in close proximity to a new football ground?

Quoted from Rik e B

Nandos please! (thumbup2)


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Quoted from Grantley

Prezzo and Pizza express are average pizzas made to look posh. Agree with ginny that a club run chip shop similar to Harry Ramsdens (but a lot better) would go down really well.

Quoted from Grantley

Prezzo and Pizza express are average pizzas made to look posh. Agree with ginny that a club run chip shop similar to Harry Ramsdens (but a lot better) would go down really well.

Quoted from Rik e B

An indoor climbing wall etc another idea to make the place a good destination for a day out for families but can't see it going that far. Wouldn't be hard to incorporate though.

Quoted from rancido

I was answering a question about questioning an unmet demand in the Grimsby area for eateries and using an example that people will come to one that is not in a presently developed area. Having a place to eat in close proximity to a new ground or even as part of the development will surely benefit the whole project.

Quoted from Meza

Tequilas or Akbars