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Posted by: 120790 (Guest), February 10, 2016, 7:35am
Nolan is looking like a great signing.

Does the simple things well, a real good creative passing player that takes the opportunity to exploit the space. Has a great shot too. Being in there with an experienced Disley is also benefitting him and he seems to be getting stuck in to do the central ball winning now.

Wrexham and Lincoln's loss I would say.
Posted by: Mallyner, February 10, 2016, 7:56am; Reply: 1
His signing upset the whingers,
They thought he was a minger;
But to those who waved a finger,
Jon is now the Ginger Ninja.  ;)

And long may he continue.
Posted by: GtfcGarner, February 10, 2016, 8:07am; Reply: 2
I've saw him on 3 occasions against us, seemed poor all the time. I was pessimistic when his name was announced but he seems to be scoring the goals from midfield currently. Let's keep this roll going and see how much pressure we can apply.
Posted by: 97 (Guest), February 10, 2016, 9:55am; Reply: 3
I've not seen him play yet but he's rubbish. I will spend 90 minutes on Saturday screaming for Clay to be brought on. I've not even credited him with that goal last night. In my mind it was a clearance that he sliced. How dare he sign for us and then expect to play. And he can stop that box to box nonsense too. Idiotic signing. In fact I've just remembered that I can't watch him on Saturday, because on reading that he'd signed for us, I put my foot through my season ticket and sent John Fenty the bill.
Posted by: RoboCod, February 10, 2016, 10:43am; Reply: 4
Interesting discussion on him over at Gimpville. Including the usual clueless misunderstanding shock revelation that Nolan is STILL AN IMP !! *

[url]http://www.lincoln.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=43821&posts=13[/url]

*(of course he's not!)
Posted by: highcliff mariner, February 10, 2016, 10:45am; Reply: 5
Quoted from 97
I've not seen him play yet but he's rubbish. I will spend 90 minutes on Saturday screaming for Clay to be brought on. I've not even credited him with that goal last night. In my mind it was a clearance that he sliced. How dare he sign for us and then expect to play. And he can stop that box to box nonsense too. Idiotic signing. In fact I've just remembered that I can't watch him on Saturday, because on reading that he'd signed for us, I put my foot through my season ticket and sent John Fenty the bill.


And he's a ging..er !
Outraged from Grimsby
Posted by: Mariners_15, February 10, 2016, 10:51am; Reply: 6
Pleased that he's made a good start but gotta feel a tad sorry for Clay. Still Nolan has come in and scored 2 goals already, something which Clay lacks in his game. Maybe this will really spur him on a bit.
Posted by: Jarmo.Is.God, February 10, 2016, 10:51am; Reply: 7
Quoted from 97
I've not seen him play yet but he's rubbish. I will spend 90 minutes on Saturday screaming for Clay to be brought on. I've not even credited him with that goal last night. In my mind it was a clearance that he sliced. How dare he sign for us and then expect to play. And he can stop that box to box nonsense too. Idiotic signing. In fact I've just remembered that I can't watch him on Saturday, because on reading that he'd signed for us, I put my foot through my season ticket and sent John Fenty the bill.


;D

This sums up the fishy IMO.

Hurst got shot down straight away for signing him, he is slowly firming his place in the starting 11, nearly scored against Gateshead and did score last night.

Ill admit i was slightly disappointed when we signed him, but how often have we shot Hurst down and been wrong !

Clay for example
Arnold got stick when he first signed
Posted by: sam gy, February 10, 2016, 11:06am; Reply: 8
Really liked the look of him last night. Composed on the ball, can pass well with both feet, creative and seems to read the game well. great finish, too. He had a half chance before that, too if i recall, when he ran into the box and had a few changes to shoot but opted to pass in the end.

3 games, 2 goals and an assist(?). great start, keep it up Jon!
Posted by: ginnywings, February 10, 2016, 11:20am; Reply: 9
Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God


;D

This sums up the fishy IMO.

Hurst got shot down straight away for signing him, he is slowly firming his place in the starting 11, nearly scored against Gateshead and did score last night.

Ill admit i was slightly disappointed when we signed him, but how often have we shot Hurst down and been wrong !

Clay for example
Arnold got stick when he first signed


Not by everyone. I've never understood why Clay gets so much praise because he is average. Not a bad player but not creative enough for the heart of the team. I've only seen Nolan once and that was against poor opposition but he is quick thinking and makes things happen. Clay is going to have a hard time getting back in the team. Some say they feel sorry for Clay but if you don't better your players as you go along, you stand still.
Posted by: 97 (Guest), February 10, 2016, 11:23am; Reply: 10
Quoted from ginnywings


Not by everyone. I've never understood why Clay gets so much praise because he is average. Not a bad player but not creative enough for the heart of the team.  


Agreed.
Posted by: mariner91, February 10, 2016, 11:23am; Reply: 11
Quoted from ginnywings


Not by everyone. I've never understood why Clay gets so much praise because he is average. Not a bad player but not creative enough for the heart of the team. I've only seen Nolan once and that was against poor opposition but he is quick thinking and makes things happen. Clay is going to have a hard time getting back in the team. Some say they feel sorry for Clay but if you don't better your players as you go along, you stand still.


Agreed. As much as Clay has some good games, generally he isn't a fast enough thinker and slow's play down too much against teams who are happy to sit back and scrap for a point. Certainly a good player to have in a squad but with Disley less able to get forward than previous years we need someone better than Clay at attacking and moving the ball around with speed.
Posted by: Mariner Ronnie, February 10, 2016, 11:33am; Reply: 12
Quoted from Mariners_15
Pleased that he's made a good start but gotta feel a tad sorry for Clay. Still Nolan has come in and scored 2 goals already, something which Clay lacks in his game. Maybe this will really spur him on a bit.


Absolutely this. We need competition for places.
Posted by: Rik e B, February 10, 2016, 11:37am; Reply: 13
Disgusting we've signed someone so ginger  >:(







:P ;)
Posted by: oldun, February 10, 2016, 1:44pm; Reply: 14
PH clearly has belief in Nolan, having tracked him for a while and knows how to play him to get the best out his talents. Maybe a natural successor for Diz.
Posted by: Garth, February 10, 2016, 1:50pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from oldun
PH clearly has belief in Nolan, having tracked him for a while and knows how to play him to get the best out his talents. Maybe a natural successor for Diz.


Could be especially if Clay ups his game tackling wise and plays alongside of him
Posted by: Rik e B, February 10, 2016, 2:02pm; Reply: 16
Might have to if Dizza gets booked again
Posted by: ackomariner, February 10, 2016, 2:22pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from mariner91


Agreed. As much as Clay has some good games, generally he isn't a fast enough thinker and slow's play down too much against teams who are happy to sit back and scrap for a point. Certainly a good player to have in a squad but with Disley less able to get forward than previous years we need someone better than Clay at attacking and moving the ball around with speed.


This  :) spot on
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, February 10, 2016, 2:32pm; Reply: 18
Idon't give a flying f *** what colour hair he's got, if he can score a few vital goals that help us get out of here he is a hero in my eyes. :) :)
Posted by: TheRonRaffertyFanClub, February 10, 2016, 2:35pm; Reply: 19
I was sceptical about Nolan and thought he would be another back up but to be fair, the lad has started off well, better than I expected and better than some signings have in recent times.

Probably Clay will be back when Disley is suspended and it will be interesting to see how he does alongside Nolan.

Players do lose form and it's important to keep the team on its game while they get it back, perhaps Nolan will be just the spark we need in that respect.
Posted by: Abdul19, February 10, 2016, 2:40pm; Reply: 20
Hopefully one of Disley's 2 games is a trophy match anyway.
Posted by: Rik e B, February 10, 2016, 2:48pm; Reply: 21
At least the competition might be good for one thing then  ;)
Posted by: monkeyboy, February 10, 2016, 4:42pm; Reply: 22
Does Henderson not stand a chance here? guessing if nolan can play a more holding role then if henderson play more forward then surely this is were his talent lies? Was Wenger wrong and he is tripe? doubt it.
Posted by: forza ivano, February 10, 2016, 5:30pm; Reply: 23
can someone post a selection of the more negative comments made when he first signed? I could do with a good laugh.....
Posted by: arryarryarry, February 10, 2016, 5:49pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from forza ivano
can someone post a selection of the more negative comments made when he first signed? I could do with a good laugh.....


Were there that many. I think most of the negative comments came from the fans of clubs he had played at.

Didn't make last night's game but of the games I have seen him play including one at Stockport I have been impressed, but let's not get carried away just yet he hasn't even played a handful of games yet.
Posted by: ackomariner, February 10, 2016, 7:13pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from arryarryarry


Were there that many. I think most of the negative comments came from the fans of clubs he had played at.

Didn't make last night's game but of the games I have seen him play including one at Stockport I have been impressed, but let's not get carried away just yet he hasn't even played a handful of games yet.


But already scored one less than Clay, got assists and man of the match.....what's not to like?

Don't get me wrong, I think Clay is a good player, but not consistent enough for me. Been the weak spot in the team this year has the centre midfield, we seem to get overrun in a lot of games and maybe things might change in that area now.
Posted by: Marinerz93, February 10, 2016, 8:07pm; Reply: 26
Just found out Nolan is a ginger, and I was immediately sick in my mouth.

I wasn't overly impressed when he signed but he seems better than Clay and is scoring, and the flag of Switzerland is a big plus.
Posted by: Caveman, February 10, 2016, 8:44pm; Reply: 27
When was the last time we had TWO gingers in midfield ?

I find it difficult to remember ONE since seeing Ginger Hall play.
Posted by: Balthazar Bullitt, February 10, 2016, 9:12pm; Reply: 28
I am appalled at the lack of intervention by the mods with the blatant gingerphobia being expressed on these pages.
Rumours that Dizza and Nolan have formed a Proclaimers tribute band are completed unfounded.
Posted by: KK_DOG, February 10, 2016, 11:07pm; Reply: 29
I quite like ginger women... Is that wrong?
Posted by: MidnightMariner, February 10, 2016, 11:25pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from KK_DOG
I quite like ginger women... Is that wrong?


Hello ginge, hows your minge... Is it red like your head ? 😀

Just a crazy thing me and my mate used to say when we was in our early 20's , never failed to get us a slap or two.... Or should i have said SLAPPERS lol

UTM ( up the mariners, not up the minge ) 😜
Posted by: KingstonMariner, February 11, 2016, 9:05am; Reply: 31
I was impressed with Nolan the other night. And not just for the well taken goal.

He seems to be the spark we've missed in midfield. For me Clay is prone to give the ball away in dangerous situations and Nolan seems more positive with his passing. Or at least quicker on the uptake than Clay. Gives us another attacking option.
Posted by: mariner91, February 11, 2016, 11:55am; Reply: 32
Quoted from KingstonMariner
I was impressed with Nolan the other night. And not just for the well taken goal.

He seems to be the spark we've missed in midfield. For me Clay is prone to give the ball away in dangerous situations and Nolan seems more positive with his passing. Or at least quicker on the uptake than Clay. Gives us another attacking option.


Fully agree. Early days but seems an improvement.
Posted by: diehardmariner, February 11, 2016, 3:42pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from monkeyboy
Does Henderson not stand a chance here? guessing if nolan can play a more holding role then if henderson play more forward then surely this is were his talent lies? Was Wenger wrong and he is tripe? doubt it.


I'm yet to be sold on Henderson.

Against lesser opposition he has really failed to stamp his authority on any game. The game against Weston-Super-Mare he showed exactly what he can do, a very tidy finish for his goal and a superb long range pass for Bogle's goal.  Problem is for the other 89 minutes he was virtually anonymous.

Technically he is clearly of a pedigree.  He moves the ball very nicely and has a wand of a left foot.  That said every time I've seen him play he has lot the game completely bypass him for large parts.  When he signed I hoped he would be an option to unlock defences when teams come and park the bus in front of goal, in all truth I've not seen he's the ability to come in and grab games by the scruff of the neck.  This is against teams where I would really expect him to stand out a country mile too.

On Saturday, albeit in shocking conditions, he was given that 'quarter-back' role where he could dictate play from the base of midfield.  All I saw him do was argue with Bogle over who slammed a free-kick miles over.

Nolan on the other hand has come in and is looking for the ball, wanting to make things happen straight away rather than let the play come to him every time.  
Posted by: Maringer, February 11, 2016, 3:46pm; Reply: 34
Henderson looks like the archetypal Arsenal midfielder (but a bit less capable, obviously) - skilful, but lightweight and prone to having the game pass him by when the opposition take an up and at 'em approach. Probably not going to be an improvement compared to what we've got, though I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
Posted by: Abdul19, February 11, 2016, 7:30pm; Reply: 35
It's all very well saying that Wenger played him once (v Leyton Orient), but there must be a reason why he's got more years than league starts.
Posted by: Magsinrio, February 11, 2016, 7:54pm; Reply: 36
i too thought he had an excellent game on Tuesday, great goal but more importantly he worked hard and put himself about a lot.
Posted by: ginnywings, February 11, 2016, 8:08pm; Reply: 37
Think Henderson would only be useful in games like the Guiseley home match, where defending was hardly required and we needed someone to create something. Don't think he's cut out for the rough and tumble of the National League, though he clearly has talent.
Posted by: bobbyturtle, February 13, 2016, 12:23am; Reply: 38
Quoted from KK_DOG
I quite like ginger women... Is that wrong?


non football  ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Fishy4Skin, February 13, 2016, 3:35pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from ackomariner


But already scored one less than Clay, got assists and man of the match.....what's not to like?

Don't get me wrong, I think Clay is a good player, but not consistent enough for me. Been the weak spot in the team this year has the centre midfield, we seem to get overrun in a lot of games and maybe things might change in that area now.


Midfield has been the weak spot in the team for the last 5 years.  The heartbeat of the team that PH seems to think can be made stronger by signing, average at best, players.  All I ever seem to hear is 'we need a fourth striker' or 'we need a new left back.  Actually we need two or maybe even three good quality midfielders.  Of those we have or have had in the last five years, only Disley has been anywhere near the required standard.

Posted by: TAGG, February 13, 2016, 4:40pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from Mallyner
His signing upset the whingers,
They thought he was a minger;
But to those who waved a finger,
Jon is now the Ginger Ninja.  ;)

And long may he continue.

Are you watching him today????
1st time I've seen him and he's a lazy can't tackle can't pass twit
Posted by: ginnywings, February 13, 2016, 5:58pm; Reply: 41
Quoted from TAGG

Are you watching him today????
1st time I've seen him and he's a lazy can't tackle can't pass twit


About as wrong as wrong can be. Nolan was easily our best player.
Posted by: Mariner Ronnie, February 13, 2016, 6:00pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from ginnywings


About as wrong as wrong can be. Nolan was easily our best player.


I agree. For the first time today, easy out MOM!
Posted by: jaymariner, February 13, 2016, 6:56pm; Reply: 43
He was the only player who impressed me today tbh he looked eager to get the ball down and go forward with it, just a shame no one else wanted to
Posted by: Trouser man, February 13, 2016, 7:33pm; Reply: 44
The lad has scored we both feet in his two goals

And is a creative player in midfield with a calm head

There isn't many in this league like that he might not win the tackles but give him the ball

Lincoln clearly are not a team with a midfielders just lads with neck aches watching the ball go over them

So he never would have shone in that side as not many mid players would
Posted by: HackneyHaddock, February 13, 2016, 7:34pm; Reply: 45
He looks like a good player, but during today's game he must have felt like he was back at Lincoln with the ball up in the sky so much.
Posted by: TAGG, February 14, 2016, 12:26am; Reply: 46
Quoted from ginnywings


About as wrong as wrong can be. Nolan was easily our best player.


He was excrement.
When did he hit a Town player with a pass??
When did he get a foot in on a tackle. ??
He was excrement.
Tate was MOM he ran himself in to the ground today.
Posted by: Mallyner, February 14, 2016, 7:31am; Reply: 47
I was at the match Tagg and I thought Nolan played really well and appears far from lazy with the end to end displays he has done up to now.

I agree with Tait being man of the match though, the guy he marked could have ripped a lesser right back to shreds.

Posted by: 97 (Guest), February 14, 2016, 7:35am; Reply: 48
He's good, isn't he? Much better than Clay. And he gets stuck in too. The glitter in which yesterday's giant turd of a game was rolled.
Posted by: ginnywings, February 14, 2016, 8:47pm; Reply: 49
Quoted from TAGG


He was excrement.
When did he hit a Town player with a pass??
When did he get a foot in on a tackle. ??
He was excrement.
Tate was MOM he ran himself in to the ground today.


I'm almost certain you said the same about Clay when he first signed.
Posted by: lew chaterleys lover, February 14, 2016, 9:01pm; Reply: 50
Quoted from Mallyner
I was at the match Tagg and I thought Nolan played really well and appears far from lazy with the end to end displays he has done up to now.

I agree with Tait being man of the match though, the guy he marked could have ripped a lesser right back to shreds.



I was at the match and must say I was as disappointed in Nolan as the other 10.

Nolan, Norwood and Straker were very ordinary.

I am not blaming them, but they are just squad players added to boost numbers; what we really needed was one, perhaps two quality signings to make a good team even better.  

I am not ruling out success in the play offs if we make them because we all know we can play very well at times, but I am a bit deflated due to the top two pulling away and our lack of quality signings to give us a better chance.

What is holding us back? Is it money or the right men not available. Who knows?
Posted by: TAGG, February 14, 2016, 9:01pm; Reply: 51
Quoted from ginnywings


I'm almost certain you said the same about Clay when he first signed.


I think you will find that I waited to see him play before I made comment and when I did see him I couldn't understand all the slagging he got on here.
I gave Arnold jip when he came back because didn't think he was any good first time around and yes I was wrong there because I like the blokes football and attitude now.
Only seen Nolan once(yesterday)and imo he was crap along with all the others apart from Tate. Yes I may change my mind when I see him a few more times.
Picked him out because of all the man love about him being the bees knees on here..
Posted by: ginnywings, February 14, 2016, 9:21pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from TAGG


I think you will find that I waited to see him play before I made comment and when I did see him I couldn't understand all the slagging he got on here.
I gave Arnold jip when he came back because didn't think he was any good first time around and yes I was wrong there because I like the blokes football and attitude now.
Only seen Nolan once(yesterday)and imo he was crap along with all the others apart from Tate. Yes I may change my mind when I see him a few more times.
Picked him out because of all the man love about him being the bees knees on here..


Fair enough. It's not so much man love, i just think he brings more to the table than Clay but neither are the non league Messi and as Lew says, we need some real quality to take us to the next level. I agree on Tait and i think he has been one of our best signings and i still can't understand why Hurst left him out for a while earlier in the season but then Hurst does a lot that i can't fathom.
Posted by: chaos33, February 14, 2016, 9:23pm; Reply: 53
Doesn't he just. See East. I've pretty much had enough to be honest.
Posted by: barralad, February 14, 2016, 11:15pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from chaos33
Doesn't he just. See East. I've pretty much had enough to be honest.


Genuine Question:- Does anyone know whether East is fully fit. It seems inexplicable that he cannot make the bench.  :-/
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