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Quoted from mariner91

Absolutely, some may beg to differ. But he hasn’t established himself in his preferred position in a team that finished 6th in the NL and there’s been a few posts on here suggesting we need better out wide in L2 (which I agree with). He’s a great asset to have in our squad due to his energy, his work ethic and his selflessness to the cause but going up to L1 would be a step too far for him. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t be sad to see him leave as I would be, I’d like to keep him.

He's been by far and away our most consistent performer in the last two seasons.
I suppose we won't know until he plays at that level, but he's been comfortable at every level he's played at.

Clifton is criminally under-rated IMO.

Clifton is the lower leagues James Milner, technically not the best in the world but he has an outstanding engine and work ethic and can play numerous positions. I hope he signs a new contract.

Quoted from ginnywings

Clifton is criminally under-rated IMO.

I think he was, not so sure he still is. Many of us voted for him to be POTY.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

All a matter of opinion. Would be hard for Harry to turn down a two or three year League 1 contract.

The Forest Green manager is obviously the guy who was at Notts County, so he saw Harry put in some good performances in the latter part of the season.

Quoted from Teesknees

The Forest Green manager is obviously the guy who was at Notts County, so he saw Harry put in some good performances in the latter part of the season.

Burchnall is widely mocked for his shamelessly data-led approach. If he’s looking for a midfield engine and he’s got his spreadsheet sorted by yards run per game, there won’t be many higher up the list than our Harry.

Quoted from ginnywings

Clifton is criminally under-rated IMO.

Don’t often disagree with your opinion Ginny but I certainly do re Harry. Great work rate, great commitment but sadly not a great first touch, not a great passer of the ball and pretty poor in front of goal despite getting in great goal scoring positions.

Still life would be boring if we all had the same thoughts and opinions on players.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

He's been by far and away our most consistent performer in the last two seasons.
I suppose we won't know until he plays at that level, but he's been comfortable at every level he's played at.

Has he? Yet Hurst doesn't trust him enough to play him in the middle of Midfield?

I like him, but he needs to improve his decision making and he gives away the ball too much. He needs to learn how to look after the ball better.

Clifton certainly isn’t underrated by our fans, I’d go so far as to say it’s probably the other way. We all know what he brings and his work rate is superb but it’d be naive to say we don’t need better to challenge at the upper end of League 2. I’d be disappointed if we don’t have an actual left winger starting next season.

We've offered Harry Clifton a deal. It's up to him whether he signs or goes elsewhere.

If rumours about FGR are true he would only be human if he was tempted.

Now let me just say I like Harry. And there is no doubt he has improved each season. He is still young and can get better.

His biggest assets are his work rate commitment and versatility.

But for me there are areas of his game he needs to improve upon if he is to be an impact player at L2 or L 1.

The big one being more composed on the ball and when chances fall his way. Too often he seems to get rushed and gives the ball away cheaply or snatches at chances. I don't know if it's a lack of confidence or not.

He lacks that bit of pace to be a genuine wide player and seems better suited to a central role but Hursty doesn't seem to trust him in there at the moment..

I hope he stays but if he decides to go whilst we would miss his running he is not irreplaceable.

Whatever he decides I wish him well.

I’m pretty relaxed about who signs and who doesn’t. Some good players left the club over the course of the season; Towler, Hunt, Bapaga, Bell, (Callum) Jones. I don’t think there is a single instance whereby a suitable if not better alternative wasn’t found by Hurst.

Should there be leavers, we now have the opportunity to try and do the same, only this time with league status and a substantially reinforced budget to our name.

What will be will be. Stay cool.

Quoted from BottesfordMariner

We've offered Harry Clifton a deal. It's up to him whether he signs or goes elsewhere.

If rumours about FGR are true he would only be human if he was tempted.

Now let me just say I like Harry. And there is no doubt he has improved each season. He is still young and can get better.

His biggest assets are his work rate commitment and versatility.

But for me there are areas of his game he needs to improve upon if he is to be an impact player at L2 or L 1.

The big one being more composed on the ball and when chances fall his way. Too often he seems to get rushed and gives the ball away cheaply or snatches at chances. I don't know if it's a lack of confidence or not.

He lacks that bit of pace to be a genuine wide player and seems better suited to a central role but Hursty doesn't seem to trust him in there at the moment..

I hope he stays but if he decides to go whilst we would miss his running he is not irreplaceable.

Whatever he decides I wish him well.

I actually think it is more a case of Hurst not trusting some of the wingers he has had this season to do as disciplined a job as Clifton.

Quoted from Poojah

I’m pretty relaxed about who signs and who doesn’t. Some good players left the club over the course of the season; Towler, Hunt, Bapaga, Bell, (Callum) Jones. I don’t think there is a single instance whereby a suitable if not better alternative wasn’t found by Hurst.

Should there be leavers, we now have the opportunity to try and do the same, only this time with league status and a substantially reinforced budget to our name.

What will be will be. Stay cool.

Fair point, There’s names there that would start ahead of Harry.

Jason has said that the aim is to improve in every transfer window.

Hurst has released a fair number of players, so plenty of space to bring in new ones, all of whom will probably be L2 standard and above.

I am confident that the new squad will be even better than the one we ended the season with.

But I will always look back on that squad with great affection.

Quoted from RonMariner

Jason has said that the aim is to improve in every transfer window.

Hurst has released a fair number of players, so plenty of space to bring in new ones, all of whom will probably be L2 standard and above.

I am confident that the new squad will be even better than the one we ended the season with.

But I will always look back on that squad with a great affection errection .

Cliftons only 24 years old and all the attributes people are putting him down on are the ones that tend to get better with age, with good coaching and development hes 100% got the potential to play in league 1.

We are a much better team with Clifton in. He is in on merit, no sentiment and he would be a bad loss. He is underrated by many. 7/10 most games and could easily go higher. An excellent athlete with some talent and a great attitude. He can get better utm

Quoted from BottesfordMariner

We've offered Harry Clifton a deal. It's up to him whether he signs or goes elsewhere.

If rumours about FGR are true he would only be human if he was tempted.

Now let me just say I like Harry. And there is no doubt he has improved each season. He is still young and can get better.

His biggest assets are his work rate commitment and versatility.

But for me there are areas of his game he needs to improve upon if he is to be an impact player at L2 or L 1.

The big one being more composed on the ball and when chances fall his way. Too often he seems to get rushed and gives the ball away cheaply or snatches at chances. I don't know if it's a lack of confidence or not.

He lacks that bit of pace to be a genuine wide player and seems better suited to a central role but Hursty doesn't seem to trust him in there at the moment..

I hope he stays but if he decides to go whilst we would miss his running he is not irreplaceable.

Whatever he decides I wish him well.

He certainly doesn't lack pace, he was one of our quickest players last season, on top of a truly putstandihg engine. A phenomenal athlete, hard tackling , committed, ectremely versatile and well disciplined.

We would be much the poorer without him. Itsnot often that in today's modern game players can be truly described as box to box midfielders who are able to do the defensive work,central work and attacking work. The high paced nature of the game makes it so much more difficult than the past, but Harry is a genuine box to box player even now.

With regard to Lincoln sniffing around Fox, have they even got a manager at the moment? And the coaching staff have left too. Reckon they’re odds on to go down myself.

Oh and Clifton is an immense player. Hope he signs

Quoted from 140381

With regard to Lincoln sniffing around Fox, have they even got a manager at the moment? And the coaching staff have left too. Reckon they’re odds on to go down myself.

My mistake, I see they’ve appointed the assistant manager of one of the worst Birmingham City sides ever. Nailed on to go down. I might actually put money on it.

Quoted from Simon

I'm hoping there is no truth in it but four clubs are chasing Mcatee, Peterborough, Bradford, Lincoln & Wrexham

Be a big loss if he is lured away

If we can get a big fee for him and a sell on clause then why not? We have a manager who knows how to find and pick players and a Chairman who will back him. As much as I love McAtee and think he has a huge upside and will continue to grow. No 1 player is bigger than the team.

I see the Lincoln fans are on :K)

Quoted from It Bites

Fox went from a good team player to an un dropable in 3 play off games . He certainly did his negotiations no harm at all but Hurst isn't daft , he worked with him all season . He won't let 3 games sway the deal

Fox has probably been our best player since he came back from injury. He's been been quality with Holohan. I would agree that he wasn't hitting those heights earlier in the season but other than the McAteeless slump I think he was still a level or two above good team player.

Quoted from Simon

I'm hoping there is no truth in it but four clubs are chasing Mcatee, Peterborough, Bradford, Lincoln & Wrexham

Be a big loss if he is lured away

Can't see Lincoln or Bradford spending the fee it would take now we're in the league. Would be surprised if Wrexham would too but who knows there, the more pertinent question is probably whether or not McAtee and Davies can work in the same team as Mullin and Palmer. Posh on the other hand, if they're in for him then we might well be facing a tough battle to keep him.

Quoted from Poojah

Burchnall is widely mocked for his shamelessly data-led approach. If he’s looking for a midfield engine and he’s got his spreadsheet sorted by yards run per game, there won’t be many higher up the list than our Harry.

Could be wrong, but I was under the impression that it is the Notts board that has the big computer that crunches the numbers and tells them which Portuguese maestro to sign and that Burchnall was just brought in and taught how to press all the buttons?

Quoted from Simon

I would like to think that under the new owners we wouldn't get raped like we have in the past and if he were to go it would be for a realistic fee, he must be worth 500k plus add ons etc

You are barmy if you think the club will sell McAtee for anything less than £1mil. If he signs a new contract this summer, I would double that at least.

I think you might need to get real.
We aren’t going to get a million for him, and certainly not 2 if he signs a new contract. Better for us if he does extend, but a lot will depend on if he wants to go to a club that might make an offer. 500K more likely I’d say. Maybe less.

I may be wrong but I don’t think anyone has ever paid £1M for a conference level player. Don’t get me wrong - he’s brilliant, and is a great age, but he is unproven at L2 level. I think he’s better than that and could play L1 or championship but just don’t see anyone shelling out that for him at this point.

Quoted from chaos33

I think you might need to get real.
We aren’t going to get a million for him, and certainly not 2 if he signs a new contract. Better for us if he does extend, but a lot will depend on if he wants to go to a club that might make an offer. 500K more likely I’d say. Maybe less.

Easily worth a million in todays market.

Quoted from Meza

Easily worth a million in todays market.

Absolutely.

I am sure the old regime would take three luncheon vouchers and a jar of pickled onions. No offer refused.

But the new owners are not so short sighted. It will take a substantial offer and even then will only be considered if McAtee himself wants to move.

I believe the days of us being easy pickings are over.

Quoted from chaos33

I think you might need to get real.
We aren’t going to get a million for him, and certainly not 2 if he signs a new contract. Better for us if he does extend, but a lot will depend on if he wants to go to a club that might make an offer. 500K more likely I’d say. Maybe less.

I may be wrong but I don’t think anyone has ever paid £1M for a conference level player. Don’t get me wrong - he’s brilliant, and is a great age, but he is unproven at L2 level. I think he’s better than that and could play L1 or championship but just don’t see anyone shelling out that for him at this point.

Why certainly not if he signs a new deal? Signs a new deal and his value goes up. I reckon if we'd have stayed down it would have taken 300-400k. I think us going up adds a couple of extra 100k onto that in this window. Isn't he out for the first three months of next season now though? If so that'll see us through this window you'd have thought.

Time will tell who’s right, but I repeat …..has anyone ever paid £1M for a conference player? This is not what I think he’s worth, but what I think is likely. A six figure sum and a handsome sell on is more realistic in my view.

Quoted from chaos33

Time will tell who’s right, but I repeat …..has anyone ever paid £1M for a conference player? This is not what I think he’s worth, but what I think is likely. A six figure sum and a handsome sell on is more realistic in my view.

They have. Leicester for Jamie Vardy, though he’s quite clearly a special case (albeit, that was 10 years ago and prices have inflated since then).

Personally, I don’t think we’ll see a tempting bid for McAtee in the summer given that he has to recover from surgery and he might not be fully match fit until October. Given that, I think clubs will want to see how he goes at a level he’s failed to pull trees at previously before sticking in big money bids.

That seems the most pragmatic approach for potential suitor to take. I’d be staggered if we never saw John McAtee in a Town shirt again.

Quoted from chaos33

Time will tell who’s right, but I repeat …..has anyone ever paid £1M for a conference player? This is not what I think he’s worth, but what I think is likely. A six figure sum and a handsome sell on is more realistic in my view.

James Vardy for one

And let’s not forget where that transfer money would go…

McAtee technically aint a conference player anymore. So yeah plenty of Lg2 players have gone for loads of money ask Exeter.

I want McAtee to stay for as long as possible but based upon what we’ve seen it’s inevitable.

All I hope is that he makes the right move for us in terms of a fee and for him as a player.

What a fee would look like is hard to say but the priority is to get him to sign an extension that would really change the dynamic of any deal.

Nice little story in yesterday’s NLP about how Coke and Lenny went over to a bar in Manchester owned by McAtee’s uncle and persuaded him to join last summer. That’s what Hurst means when he talks about influence off the pitch. Coke & Lenny might’ve just got us promoted!

Quoted from ska face

Nice little story in yesterday’s NLP about how Coke and Lenny went over to a bar in Manchester owned by McAtee’s uncle and persuaded him to join last summer. That’s what Hurst means when he talks about influence off the pitch. Coke & Lenny might’ve just got us promoted!

Wow, now that’s a story and a half

Quoted from 140381

And let’s not forget where that transfer money would go…

As regular as clockwork. Get a hobby ffs. One that you’re actually good at.

Quoted from 140381

As regular as clockwork. Get a hobby ffs. One that you’re actually good at.

Bit weird.

Quoted from Poojah

Bit weird.

Strong cider? Next stage is fighting yourself...

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Next stage is fighting yourself...

Been there, done that, no cider needed, no fun at all :-)

Story in the Telewag that Sam Winnall has been released by Oxford. They say that at 31, could he replace Taylor.

People actually think Mcatee is worth 1 million?

Absolutely no way

He wasn't even in the top 10 goal scorers last season

We all know how good he is and a full season without injury I'm sure he'll be amongst the top scorers in league 2, but let's get real hear. A striker not in rhe top 10 for a conference team would be lucky to get 200k, maybe 300k if the potential is clearly there.

Regardless of whether we are now a league 2 team he can only be valued on two things. Performances in the previous season in a lower league, and the value he has to the team he is with.

Grimsby may, and probably do value him much higher than his market value, but realisticly he's a top 15 conference scorer with 1 year left in his contract.

The beat thing we can do now is to give him a 3 year contract and a season to prove himself in the league. Maybe then he will be worth a million

Quoted from Grimsby2012

People actually think Mcatee is worth 1 million?

Absolutely no way

He wasn't even in the top 10 goal scorers last season

We all know how good he is and a full season without injury I'm sure he'll be amongst the top scorers in league 2, but let's get real hear. A striker not in rhe top 10 for a conference team would be lucky to get 200k, maybe 300k if the potential is clearly there.

Regardless of whether we are now a league 2 team he can only be valued on two things. Performances in the previous season in a lower league, and the value he has to the team he is with.

Grimsby may, and probably do value him much higher than his market value, but realisticly he's a top 15 conference scorer with 1 year left in his contract.

The beat thing we can do now is to give him a 3 year contract and a season to prove himself in the league. Maybe then he will be worth a million

Not really a striker though is he? He's a No 10, who can score and make goals. He affects the game not just in the box, but outside it too.

Not saying you are wrong about his value right now, but you seem to be judging him solely on his goal return.

He was instrumental in us winning at Wrexham for instance, despite only scoring 1 of the 5 goals.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

People actually think Mcatee is worth 1 million?

Absolutely no way

He wasn't even in the top 10 goal scorers last season

We all know how good he is and a full season without injury I'm sure he'll be amongst the top scorers in league 2, but let's get real hear. A striker not in rhe top 10 for a conference team would be lucky to get 200k, maybe 300k if the potential is clearly there.

Regardless of whether we are now a league 2 team he can only be valued on two things. Performances in the previous season in a lower league, and the value he has to the team he is with.

Grimsby may, and probably do value him much higher than his market value, but realisticly he's a top 15 conference scorer with 1 year left in his contract.

The beat thing we can do now is to give him a 3 year contract and a season to prove himself in the league. Maybe then he will be worth a million

He’s a game changer and a match winner. He’s also still only 22. Putting price tags on players heads is a bit bonkers but there’s only a few players at our level capable of doing what McAtee does.

Some interesting stuff to read in this thread. I will put my ten penneth in for what it's worth.

Having taken time to digest the in's and out's of the retained list, and considered those we have also made offers to for remaining, I would say that we have got a very very exciting few weeks ahead of us, watching which personnel Paul Hurst secures.

There is one thing you can say about Paul Hurst for sure, and that is that he has been consistently good at bringing players into our club, and that he has unearthed some gems along the way too. Plus, Paul's stock is very high out there at the moment in the world of professional football, and he wont have any shortage of very good players wanting to join him. Additionally, after the last few weeks of fantastic and exciting football on the TV in the play offs, I am sure there will be many players out there for who Grimsby would now be high up on their list of clubs that they would like to be at.

The club will benefit from all of the positive stuff that has happened recently, on the crest of a wave. And when you are on that crest of the wave, its important that you ride it well, and I have no doubt that we will.

So in summary, now isn't the time to get the jitters about any players that are leaving, or one that might attract the interest of a bigger club. Now is actually the time to be very excited about which players are about to join us, and I suspect there will be some very very good signings in the coming weeks.

Quoted from DaleH

Some interesting stuff to read in this thread. I will put my ten penneth in for what it's worth.

Having taken time to digest the in's and out's of the retained list, and considered those we have also made offers to for remaining, I would say that we have got a very very exciting few weeks ahead of us, watching which personnel Paul Hurst secures.

There is one thing you can say about Paul Hurst for sure, and that is that he has been consistently good at bringing players into our club, and that he has unearthed some gems along the way too. Plus, Paul's stock is very high out there at the moment in the world of professional football, and he wont have any shortage of very good players wanting to join him. Additionally, after the last few weeks of fantastic and exciting football on the TV in the play offs, I am sure there will be many players out there for who Grimsby would now be high up on their list of clubs that they would like to be at.

The club will benefit from all of the positive stuff that has happened recently, on the crest of a wave. And when you are on that crest of the wave, its important that you ride it well, and I have no doubt that we will.

So in summary, now isn't the time to get the jitters about any players that are leaving, or one that might attract the interest of a bigger club. Now is actually the time to be very excited about which players are about to join us, and I suspect there will be some very very good signings in the coming weeks.

Totally agree, exciting times, I don’t believe there’s many better recruiters out there than Paul hurst. He’s meticulous, hard working and superb at spotting a player. With the new owners and record season ticket sales imminent, I can only imagine the budget is higher than it’s been for a very long time, and like you said, these televised games would of done us no harm in potential signings. I’d love the core to stay but I’m convinced we will sign a few gems in the coming weeks.

Quoted from DaleH

Some interesting stuff to read in this thread. I will put my ten penneth in for what it's worth.

Having taken time to digest the in's and out's of the retained list, and considered those we have also made offers to for remaining, I would say that we have got a very very exciting few weeks ahead of us, watching which personnel Paul Hurst secures.

There is one thing you can say about Paul Hurst for sure, and that is that he has been consistently good at bringing players into our club, and that he has unearthed some gems along the way too. Plus, Paul's stock is very high out there at the moment in the world of professional football, and he wont have any shortage of very good players wanting to join him. Additionally, after the last few weeks of fantastic and exciting football on the TV in the play offs, I am sure there will be many players out there for who Grimsby would now be high up on their list of clubs that they would like to be at.

The club will benefit from all of the positive stuff that has happened recently, on the crest of a wave. And when you are on that crest of the wave, its important that you ride it well, and I have no doubt that we will.

So in summary, now isn't the time to get the jitters about any players that are leaving, or one that might attract the interest of a bigger club. Now is actually the time to be very excited about which players are about to join us, and I suspect there will be some very very good signings in the coming weeks.

I couldn't have put it any better. Keep the squad and add to it with some quality for another promotion push. We're going places and all players want to be part of that formula.

UTM

I don't think McAtee would be valued at near a million at present, but let's hope he is following a productive season in the Football League.

As I mentioned during the play-off run, I think he was actually more effective playing with the shoulder problem as he wasn't getting into the argy bargy of play as much as usual and was instead letting his movement and ability do the talking. When he's recovered from his shoulder operation, he'll hopefully take this into account. Aggression is good to some degree but you're better off outplaying your opponents if you've got the ability to do so.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Has he? Yet Hurst doesn't trust him enough to play him in the middle of Midfield?

Very silly statement, IMO. This notion that playing out wide is somewhat of a ‘lesser’ position is laughable. He’s played 44 games this season…does it matter that they’ve not all been in CM, just because that’s the position he first came through playing? Football has moved on, players are flexible and can play in various positions – it’s not Football Manager.

Also, its all about getting the best out of the squad you’ve got…Fox and Holohan compliment each other well in the middle, so why not utilise Harry’s attributes elsewhere? I’d argue that having the likes of Harry, Mcatee and to a lesser extent Sousa harassing from the front has been instrumental in our success.

Could he do better in front of goal? Well yeah…but 7 goals isn’t a bad return at all...it's better than some of our strikers in recent years.

When assessing McAtee allow for the fact that he is still only 22, still developing his basic fitness to complete 90 minutes frequently.  He was also subbed in all 3 critical playoff matches, despite being a key player.   Hurst said they are continuing to resolve his cramping issues.

He has tremendous energy but needs to use it more wisely. For the benefit of himself and the team.

Goals:  he had 2 long(ish) injury layoffs last season and a red card suspension.  With the capacity to play a lot more games he could have scored say 25 goals.  He is more than a goalscorer though, as identified above, he is that very valuable and rare breed - a scorer and creator of chances and goals.

Top players score very good goals - and in key games.  His goals at Wrexham was pure class, another just offside and another good shot just missed the post. He could easily have had a first half hat trick.

He is the heart and driving force of the team.  People are enthused to watch such an exciting player. He is a "cheeky chappie", a scallywag with mischief,  similar to Cantona was at United.  He brings more to the team than the individual aspects of his game.

Besides general improvement in his game, his decision-making and passing in the final third needs to improve.  A simple 10 yard pass to another player for a shot at goal can go way wide. Good coaching should fix these occasional rushes of blood.

Finishing on a positive.  Like his younger brother at City, he has good football pedigree. A good and quick brain.   At freekicks or throw ins, at the last second he can quickly dart into open space that he has found to receive the ball. Other players are not usually on the same wavelength though.

I think that he will improve next season at the higher level, and with bigger challenges.  Any valuation would be more accurate in a years time.

He can also receive the ball on the half turn (a hard-to-find skill outside the top three leagues), has great close control, speed of thought and his pressing of the opponent's back line and midfield did so much for us in terms of getting the team up the pitch and highlighting how possible it is to force players into mistakes. When he was missing from the team it was so apparent that our other players weren't galvanised in the same way and our play noticeably slowed down.

Quoted from HoratiusEberlin

He can also receive the ball on the half turn (a hard-to-find skill outside the top three leagues), has great close control, speed of thought and his pressing of the opponent's back line and midfield did so much for us in terms of getting the team up the pitch and highlighting how possible it is to force players into mistakes. When he was missing from the team it was so apparent that our other players weren't galvanised in the same way and our play noticeably slowed down.

Are you really suggesting that receiving the ball on the half turn is a hard to find skill amongst pro players in the top three leagues? It amazes me that you feel that is something that is lacking in pro football. As a coach and developer of young players, this is a good habit that I have seen coached to children as young as 9, receiving the ball across their body onto the back foot on the half turn. It's not so much a difficult skill to utilise, but more of a good habit that you work with youngsters to establish, combined with scanning and movement into a space that gives them the opportunity to open up their body in order to be able to receive on the half turn and play forwards quickly. It therefore amazes me that you feel that this basic skill/habit is something that is lacking in the top three leagues of pro football.

Quoted from DaleH

Are you really suggesting that receiving the ball on the half turn is a hard to find skill amongst pro players in the top three leagues? It amazes me that you feel that is something that is lacking in pro football. As a coach and developer of young players, this is a good habit that I have seen coached to children as young as 9, receiving the ball across their body onto the back foot on the half turn. It's not so much a difficult skill to utilise, but more of a good habit that you work with youngsters to establish, combined with scanning and movement into a space that gives them the opportunity to open up their body in order to be able to receive on the half turn and play forwards quickly. It therefore amazes me that you feel that this basic skill/habit is something that is lacking in the top three leagues of pro football.

Not so straightforward when the ball is drilled into your feet from 10 yards and you are being closed down. During training with a size 3/4 football with a gentle pass, most things are possible.

Quoted from DaleH

Are you really suggesting that receiving the ball on the half turn is a hard to find skill amongst pro players in the top three leagues? It amazes me that you feel that is something that is lacking in pro football. As a coach and developer of young players, this is a good habit that I have seen coached to children as young as 9, receiving the ball across their body onto the back foot on the half turn. It's not so much a difficult skill to utilise, but more of a good habit that you work with youngsters to establish, combined with scanning and movement into a space that gives them the opportunity to open up their body in order to be able to receive on the half turn and play forwards quickly. It therefore amazes me that you feel that this basic skill/habit is something that is lacking in the top three leagues of pro football.

Your amazement seems to have clouded your ability to read and understand words. I said ‘a hard-to-find skill outside the top three leagues’. This place is a zoo sometimes.

Can we rebrand this thread :

what John McAtee can/can’t do and how much is he worth….plus I know more about skills than you

Anyway so what rumours do we have 🤣

Nah..keep it on the half turns..

Mat Heywood…turned slower than milk

Quoted from HoratiusEberlin

Your amazement seems to have clouded your ability to read and understand words. I said ‘a hard-to-find skill outside the top three leagues’. This place is a zoo sometimes.

Then I would have to disagree that it is a hard-to-find skill outside the top three leagues. I'd suggest it is a commonly found skill.

Not seen many in a town shirt use it as effectively as McAtee this season. Get it, one touch & he’s away or able to switch play quickly. Great player. £1.5mil.

Quoted from ska face

Not seen many in a town shirt use it as effectively as McAtee this season. Get it, one touch & he’s away or able to switch play quickly. Great player. £1.5mil.

We have 1.5 on my left anyone for 2

Quoted from HerveJosse

We have 1.5 on my left anyone for 2

If Everton want £50m for Richarlison then McAtee must be worth at least the same. Most overrated player in The Premier League in my eyes. :)

Quoted from Les Brechin

If Everton want £50m for Richarlison then McAtee must be worth at least the same. Most overrated player in The Premier League in my eyes. :)

Regular starter as main striker for Brazil though.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Regular starter as main striker for Brazil though.

🤦🏻‍♂️

McAtee is from Manchester!

Re: the argument about McAtee’s value…

Any footballer is worth what an idiot will pay for him. Anyone who’s seen series 1 of Sunderland ‘til I die will understand that from their signing of Will Grigg. If you find 2 idiots you’ll get even more.

I think it might be time for a new "Rumors-just one thread, please!!" thread.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Regular starter as main striker for Brazil though.

I know. It's just whenever I've watched him he's been bloody awful.

Back to actual rumours, Niall Maher from Halifax is a name I’ve heard. Centre back.

Harry Clifton has received two offers from other clubs, one from a league two team which has resulted in us matching their offer of wages. And one from a league one team which i am told is under consideration, location might sway it for us as he would have to move a considerably long way

Quoted from Rhys_Mariners

Harry Clifton has received two offers from other clubs, one from a league two team which has resulted in us matching their offer of wages. And one from a league one team which i am told is under consideration, location might sway it for us as he would have to move a considerably long way

.....and become a vegan!!!!

Quoted from Surrey97

Back to actual rumours, Niall Maher from Halifax is a name I’ve heard. Centre back.

Would most definitely have him here rock solid and part of one of the best defences all season

People really are delusional on here ;D

1 million for a player with 1 year on his contract and outside the top 10 for goals and assists in the non league ;D ;D

It’s a surprise we didn’t have an option on Clifton’s contract, it would be very disappointing to lose him. Finding a replacement for someone so versatile will not be easy

Quoted from smokey111

.....and become a vegan!!!!

Won the league 2 title and still only avearge 2687 the fourth worst in the league.

I know money talks or hopefully he stays and helps us to league 1 next season in front of a packed out BP.

Personally due to it being his hometown maybe the only thing that swings it for us, as well an improved deal i hope Harry stays, but he might see Lg1 as a chance to progress his international career. Fox i hope signs.

If he moves to FGR, he’ll have to move out of his Mum’s 😂! On balance, I think he’ll re-sign. FGR would have to offer loads more money than us to make him consider it I suspect, and if we’ve matched the offer from another L2 club, there’s no way he’ll sign for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niall_Maher

Quoted from forza ivano

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niall_Maher

Some Halifax fans think he's off to either Barrow Rochdale Chesterfield Salford or Stockport, oh and Wrexham.

3 days of covid fever dreams and I’m reduced to this. I think I was getting annoyed at red crosses as soon as our previous leader was mentioned. God knows. Apologies.

Quoted from Mariner_09

If he moves to FGR, he’ll have to move out of his Mum’s 😂! On balance, I think he’ll re-sign. FGR would have to offer loads more money than us to make him consider it I suspect, and if we’ve matched the offer from another L2 club, there’s no way he’ll sign for them.

He doesn't live at his mum's

Well if he does stay next season we have a new song. "He lives with his mum, he lives with his muuuuuum, Harry Clifton, he lives with his mum!"

Quoted from Meza

Some Halifax fans think he's off to either Barrow Rochdale Chesterfield Salford or Stockport, oh and Wrexham.

According to this, [url]https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/sport/20207185.oldham-athletic-miss-ex-bolton-wanderers-blackpool-defender-niall-maher/[/url], he's going to a league team so unlikely to be Chesterfield or Wrexham. That said, we all know how accurate GrimsbyLive can be with their rumours so who knows what The Oldham Times are like.

Glennon/Amos-Maher-Waterfall-Efete/Cropper looks tasty to me - hopefully we can convince Smith to come back on loan to add even more competition

Signing incoming...

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1537027233898012673

Quoted from Nutsy

Glennon/Amos-Maher-Waterfall-Efete/Cropper looks tasty to me - hopefully we can convince Smith to come back on loan to add even more competition

Pearson?

Quoted from diehardmariner

Pearson?

Shaun will be 33 when next season starts. He’s barely played in the League. He’ll be 4th choice of 4 CB’s for sure but will do whatever is asked of him when required. He’s talked about moving into a coaching role, so I suspect he’ll be around the club as 4th choice CB for a good while yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Pilkington

Quoted from grassbandits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Pilkington

looks a bit old

This is a belter…Someone must be drunk.

https://twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1537033813062299649?s=21&t=zIK0QzYLS_GRLTdalfSnRw

If this is actually true I’ll run up to Blundell Park naked with a sausage up my bottom singing Pump It Up as I buy my season ticket

Loves his fish 'n' chips does Cesc I'm told, so it could be true. ;D

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Would most definitely have him here rock solid and part of one of the best defences all season

Well that went what what a first signing that is 🔥

Quoted from Les Brechin

Loves his fish 'n' chips does Cesc I'm told, so it could be true. ;D

From Monaco to Meggies

I'll eat all 3 of my hats if this is true. UTM.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

This is a belter…Someone must be drunk.

https://twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1537033813062299649?s=21&t=zIK0QzYLS_GRLTdalfSnRw

Nicked that. Hope you don’t mind!

Some legs in that Fabregas story, his missus is from Market Rasen.

Quoted from Abdul19

Some legs in that Fabregas story, his missus is from Market Rasen.

and he loves National Hunt racing & Bateman's Ale - so, as he will tell the Telewag, it was a no brainer ;D ;D ;D ;D

Barnet had a former top class player a few years ago. It can happen. We had Birtles, Whymark etc as well.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Barnet had a former top class player a few years ago. It can happen. We had Birtles, Whymark etc as well.

We were Championship level, or Division 2 as I prefer, when we signed Whymark mind...

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Barnet had a former top class player a few years ago. It can happen. We had Birtles, Whymark etc as well.

Indeed. Other stories from the same source include Diego Costa to Peterborough, so it checks out as legit to me.

https://mobile.twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1536030745281630208

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

This is a belter…Someone must be drunk.

https://twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1537033813062299649?s=21&t=zIK0QzYLS_GRLTdalfSnRw

I am stupidly optimistic, but even I don't buy this.

Just a wind up.

I guess we can dream! That would be a sensational signing. But I just can’t believe it.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

This is a belter…Someone must be drunk.

https://twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1537033813062299649?s=21&t=zIK0QzYLS_GRLTdalfSnRw

Whats this on the Bentley scale? Imagine though, a signing like that and you'd have nearly the whole stadium sold out with season ticket holders, and all those extra shirt sales!

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Barnet had a former top class player a few years ago. It can happen. We had Birtles, Whymark etc as well.

yeh,it was Edgar Davids and little old Boston had Gazza.

The ending to our season was so flipping mental, if you woke up tomorrow and saw Cesc wandering around BP with a town scarf draped over his shoulders we’d probably just give a casual nod…

I mean as rumours go this one is flipping brilliant…

Can you imagine that conversation?

'Hi Paul, ,my client Cesc Fabregas would love to come and don the Black and White stripes.'

'Well he can do a medical and I'll judge him on that'

More like a drugs test ;D

I’m with Aldi, imagine the scene…
“Well I was was bored and looking for a bit of a football fix and I found this game where one team were 5s from going out of the play offs and they only went and won that game. So I then watched their next game and I’ve never seen anything like it. Their guile and grit astounded me. I couldn’t stop there so I watched the final and again they simply didn’t give up. I fell in love with that team then and I vowed to play for them before I retired” Thanks Cesc now if you could just sign the contract.

Would like to see town sign the best of the National Conference, North and South. Impressed with the stats of these....

Zac McEachran - creative centre midfielder (No. 10 like McAtee)
https://www.oxfordcityfc.co.uk/individual-player/10
Oxford city in National League South
Very creative. A lot of assists and 31 goals in 133 appearances.

Nick Haughton - goalscoring centre midfielder.
https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/people/nick-haughton/
https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/national-league-north/top-goal-scorers.html
AFC Fylde in National League North.
25 goals from centre midfield

Harry Boyes - Left back (ex Solihull)
https://www.sheffieldunited.news/news/sheffield-united-announce-retained-list-with-new-contract-for-harry-boyes/?amp
Been given new contract at Sheffield United but would the Blades let him out on loan again but to a league club this time. We saw his quality at Solihull last year.

Charley Kendall - Striker
https://www.weareimps.com/news/2022/january/kendall-signs-for-the-imps
Signed from Eastbourne Borough by Lincoln City but loaned straight back and finished with 24 goals last term.
A quick, clever, on the shoulder striker with a keen eye for goal.
Would Lincoln loan him out again and entrust him to the Mariners.

If we could find an attacking full back on the left hand side like Efete we could play a narrower 4-3-2-1 with 2 Number 10's and attacking full backs for width. Clifton could come to the right of a middle 3 with 2 in behind Taylor or A.n.other striker

McEachran is the brother of the former Chelsea youth star Josh. Big things were expected of him but it did not quite work out, too much too soon. His brother at Oxford City has good pedigree then.

Do we know of any other player with a famous brother? 😀😀

Think the jump in quality between Conference north/south and League 2 (especially if we want to be challenging at the top end) is quite notable. Look at Luke Charman - knocking them in left, right & centre at Darlo, sold to Rochdale for a bomb, then scores in only 1 of 19 appearances.

Quoted from ska face

Think the jump in quality between Conference north/south and League 2 (especially if we want to be challenging at the top end) is quite notable. Look at Luke Charman - knocking them in left, right & centre at Darlo, sold to Rochdale for a bomb, then scores in only 1 of 19 appearances.

We tried signing three promising players from the lower leagues under Holloway (Jackson Jnr, Gibson and the other guy who's name I cant remember) and that didn't work out did it.

If we were still non league then dipping in to conference north/south would be logical but in our case I’m not sure it’s worth a gamble on too many. Possibly one but as pointed out, players have tried to make that jump and it’s been a bit excrement for them.

I agree with the sentiment and the idea of getting in hungry players rather than journeyman but I suspect we won’t be looking further then the conference…

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

This is a belter…Someone must be drunk.

https://twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1537033813062299649?s=21&t=zIK0QzYLS_GRLTdalfSnRw

Not for me. His legs have gone. ;)

Quoted from ska face

Think the jump in quality between Conference north/south and League 2 (especially if we want to be challenging at the top end) is quite notable. Look at Luke Charman - knocking them in left, right & centre at Darlo, sold to Rochdale for a bomb, then scores in only 1 of 19 appearances.

Give him a full pre-season and he will do well for them next season. The lads a class above.

If you're looking at players at this level, then you wanna be looking at the likes of Nick Haughton (as above), Greg Olley at Gateshead who got like 30+ goals/assists last season, Sam Austin at Kidderminster is another very good option at this level.
Louis Lomas at Brackley is a superb young defender, who will be playing at a much better level before long.

Quoted from RonMariner

We tried signing three promising players from the lower leagues under Holloway (Jackson Jnr, Gibson and the other guy who's name I cant remember) and that didn't work out did it.

Problem with this, Holloway had no idea what he was doing. It was clear as soon as Montel Gibson, Luke Spokes and Ira Jackson Jnr got near the team none were good enough. There's real talent at these levels but Hollowhead did not find the right ones

Quoted from AndyDarloFC

Give him a full pre-season and he will do well for them next season. The lads a class above.

If you're looking at players at this level, then you wanna be looking at the likes of Nick Haughton (as above), Greg Olley at Gateshead who got like 30+ goals/assists last season, Sam Austin at Kidderminster is another very good option at this level.
Louis Lomas at Brackley is a superb young defender, who will be playing at a much better level before long.

Cheers for that Andy, good insight as always. I've read Lomas is Southend bound.

There's another Tweet today about Fabregas - completely bonkers - where has this come from?

Some very boring bástard who has made it up for a laugh.

Quoted from LondonMariner43

There's another Tweet today about Fabregas - completely bonkers - where has this come from?

It was a joke posted on Twitter as the news broke we were signing a player.

These things then develop a life of their own!

Like I always say a lot of Twitter is not real life it is a make believe fantasy world.

Cue breaking story "Fabrigas signs for Mariners "

Quoted from LondonMariner43

There's another Tweet today about Fabregas - completely bonkers - where has this come from?

From the same person on another account pretending to be somebody legitimate from Talksport by the look of it. They seem like somebody who makes up rumours because they have nothing better to do, they even say his wife is local to here when she's a model from Lebanon who was living in London when they met in Knightsbridge.

Harvey Cartwright is the only name I’ve heard. Young GY born keeper at hull city.

We have raised the bar in recent weeks. A World Cup winner might be ok, however, we need to see a record of scoring last minute goals as well. We don’t signed any Tom,male private and Cesc you know.

Just googled him. He’s a Grimsby lad but signed a long term contract for Hull last month, so they must rate him highly given they’re apparently going to throw silly money around. Guess that’ll be a season long loan then if it comes off, similar sort of signing to Dean Henderson.

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/harvey-cartwright-on-hull-city-deal-england-under-20s-and-loan-options-3722015

Given they have money to spend I expect he will be going somewhere on loan.

Quoted from psgmariner

Harvey Cartwright is the only name I’ve heard. Young GY born keeper at hull city.

Have heard that he's a very good player and they fully expect him to be first choice at some point.

Cartwright is going on loan to Peterborough apparently.

Posh chairman said on twitter that they're not in for him because he wants to stay in the area

Quoted from Mariner93er

he wants to stay in the area

Is he on crack!!!

He attends Bannatyne and is very good friends with Ollie Battersby so it would definitely make sense… someone else that is a new member of the Bannatyne club is Ryan Bennett. Was in there yesterday 👍

Quoted from Mariner93er

Posh chairman said on twitter that they're not in for him because he wants to stay in the area

Think he was referring to Richie Smallwood in that tweet, not Cartwright.

He has said Posh will announce two new GK signings today though so one could well be HC!

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

He attends Bannatyne and is very good friends with Ollie Battersby so it would definitely make sense… someone else that is a new member of the Bannatyne club is Ryan Bennett. Was in there yesterday 👍

what about Fabregas - has he joined too? It will be good for him to have another ex-premier league player for company

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Think he was referring to Richie Smallwood in that tweet, not Cartwright.

He has said Posh will announce two new GK signings today though so one could well be HC!

Ah yes, getting my players confused. Smallwood wouldn't be a bad signing either (I know there's no chance)

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Is he on crack!!!

Probably why he wants to stay in the area…

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Is he on crack!!!

if he is, Peterborough would be the right move, yes, I lived there for 7 yrs. much prefer living up here.

Akil Wright from York City, anyone heard anything?

Quoted from It Bites

Akil Wright from York City, anyone heard anything?

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/york-city-midfielder-wright-leave-090154451.html

Quoted from It Bites

Akil Wright from York City, anyone heard anything?

York fans very disappointed he is leaving but a lot of online chat about Stockport as a potential destination.

I'd like to see us sign a goal scoring striker.

16 goals from McAtee is great considering he missed quite a bit of the season through injury. But below him, the next leading marksman is only on 9 for last season.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a striker coming in that has a 16-20+ goals in him

Danny Elliott confirmed he is leaving Boston 22 in 44 games last season, no idea if he is any good or on our radar!

Quoted from coddy60

Danny Elliott confirmed he is leaving Boston 22 in 44 games last season, no idea if he is any good or on our radar!

The general consensus from folk I know who watch Boston regularly is that he's not good enough to take the jump to the League. Maybe Conference

Quoted from It Bites

Akil Wright from York City, anyone heard anything?

Seen a couple of hints on Twitter…

Is the Facebook post the club have just put up a hint of a player rejoining us /staying?

"Those new EFL match balls

Quite a familiar face holding it..."

I feel like it’s going to be a new signing

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Is the Facebook post the club have just put up a hint of a player rejoining us /staying?

"Those new EFL match balls

Quite a familiar face holding it..."

That's definitely Ryan Bennett's arm, recognise it anywhere

I’ve got a feeling it’s waterfall ….. may be wrong though I usually am 😂

Ah it’s Danny Amos knew I would be wrong 😂

It’s Waterfall signing a new deal

Would be happy with Waterfall. Been rumoured as a target for Wrexham and Stockport, as well as being linked with Chesterfield (think he’s from around there)?

It's Amos.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1537748688637943815?t=RxCEwTeSwzDb93_u4v1yVA&s=19

Quoted from GG

It's Amos.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1537748688637943815?t=RxCEwTeSwzDb93_u4v1yVA&s=19

It’s Amos singing a song about Waterfall…. Sam has got everyone on strings 🤣

Its waterfall 2 year deal

Waterfall confirmed - 2 year deal

Quoted from Youngy

The general consensus from folk I know who watch Boston regularly is that he's not good enough to take the jump to the League. Maybe Conference

Fair enough, ex player signed for us yesterday, no idea who though

Quoted from coddy60

Fair enough, ex player signed for us yesterday, no idea who though

Err, may have been Waterfall then 🤦🏻‍♂️

Pearson and JMD have just followed Akil Wright on Twitter… not sure if this means anything 👀

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Pearson and JMD have just followed Akil Wright on Twitter… not sure if this means anything 👀

Great spot

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Pearson and JMD have just followed Akil Wright on Twitter… not sure if this means anything 👀

They both played with him at Wrexham, so wouldn’t read much into that.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Pearson and JMD have just followed Akil Wright on Twitter… not sure if this means anything 👀

It’s reported he’s joining a FL club and that’s usually a good sign! How do you see when a player has just followed someone?😂

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Pearson and JMD have just followed Akil Wright on Twitter… not sure if this means anything 👀

They followed him already. All played together at Wrexham.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Pearson and JMD have just followed Akil Wright on Twitter… not sure if this means anything 👀

Well Hurst does love signing players from York City, Richard Brodie (loan, ahh from Crawley), Parslow, Doigy, Luke Summerfield, Ashley Chambers, who else(Confused)

Paddy. Fyfield? James Barrett (shudders).

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

Well Hurst does love signing players from York City, Richard Brodie (loan, ahh from Crawley), Parslow, Doigy, Luke Summerfield, Ashley Chambers, who else(Confused)

Michael Rankine
Anthony Straker
Manny Panther

??)

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Pearson and JMD have just followed Akil Wright on Twitter… not sure if this means anything 👀

It doesn't. Could be a good signing though if he arrives here, wins a lot of balls in midfield, good burst of pace and can score a goal or two. Think he played a similar role to Ben Fox at York actually so maybe Hurst is looking for a similar type of midfielder who can be that ball winning defensive midfielder.

Quoted from Nelly GTFC

Well Hurst does love signing players from York City, Richard Brodie (loan, ahh from Crawley), Parslow, Doigy, Luke Summerfield, Ashley Chambers, who else(Confused)

Brodie was the least Hurst signing I've ever seen! Such a strange one

Quoted from kamakazebear

Brodie was the least Hurst signing I've ever seen! Such a strange one

Could have been a "we ain't got no fackin money, if you don't like it, don't fackin come" choice.(Confused)

Quoted from kamakazebear

Brodie was the least Hurst signing I've ever seen! Such a strange one

Scott over ruled Hurst on that one.

Just been told (about Wright)… ‘I think he’s going to Stockport’.

Quoted from chaos33

Scott over ruled Hurst on that one.

Scott said sometime ago it was the other way around.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Scott said sometime ago it was the other way around.

Was that from behind the counter at Curry's where he now works? ;D

He would say that. Defo his choice and Hurst didn’t want to do it.

Akil Wright has signed for Stockport.

Quoted from chaos33

Just been told (about Wright)… ‘I think he’s going to Stockport’.

😉

Wasn’t Berret from York as well?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Winnall

;)

Quoted from forza ivano

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Winnall

;)

We’ve got more chance of cesc fabregas, we couldn’t afford to keep Ben fox, let alone sign a striker who’s probably on triple what any of our other players are on.

Quoted from Superdan147

We’ve got more chance of cesc fabregas, we couldn’t afford to keep Ben fox, let alone sign a striker who’s probably on triple what any of our other players are on.

Wrong. Wrong. And wrong.

Quoted from forza ivano

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Winnall

;)

Someone's heard what I've heard... apparently we're talking to him at the moment..

Winnall hasn't been first choice at any of his recent clubs and is now past 30, so maybe he wants to be No1 for the twilight of his career.

31, played 20 games for Oxford scoring 1 goal last season.

Winnall is injury prone and on a downward trajectory. Hasn’t done anything of note for years. No thanks.

I'll give you a name of a player that I know his agent has definitely been touch with town, Jack Muldoon and he wants the move too...as of yet nothings come of it but as I get information I'll let you know.

Sounds like a signing from years past, striker with non tooo impressive record on his way down :(

Quoted from davmariner

Winnall is injury prone and on a downward trajectory. Hasn’t done anything of note for years. No thanks.

I'm sure several people said the same about Ryan Taylor last summer.

Quoted from toontown

Sounds like a signing from years past, striker with non tooo impressive record on his way down :(

Do you not trust PH yet?

Quoted from buckstown

Wasn’t Berret from York as well?

Yeah pretty sure we signed the York relegated centre midfield at the time - summer field a d berrett.

Summer field was inconsistent with dreadful concentration.

Berrett was absolutely utterly shite

Quoted from toontown

Yeah pretty sure we signed the York relegated centre midfield at the time - summer field a d berrett.

Summer field was inconsistent with dreadful concentration.

Berrett was absolutely utterly shite

Bit harsh.

On summerfield

A mate supports Ipswich and said a couple of league two teams are interested in midfielder Brett McGavin. Wonder if one could be us?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

A mate supports Ipswich and said a couple of league two teams are interested in midfielder Brett McGavin. Wonder if one could be us?

Son of Shooter?

Quoted from toontown

Yeah pretty sure we signed the York relegated centre midfield at the time - summer field a d berrett.

Summer field was inconsistent with dreadful concentration.

Berrett was absolutely utterly shite

Wasn’t this the summer when we offered players who had a proven record lesser terms even though we went up?

Not sure we were in a position to sign anyone else in truth…

Quoted from jaygy

Son of Shooter?

hmm this one

[img]https://c.tenor.com/1LiIhez_aiYAAAAC/shooter-shootera.gif[/img]

OUFC supporting chum describes Winall as v. intelligent footballer; scores a few goals but better at link play nnd has good eye for a pass

been a long thread so can't be bothered to check if they've all been mentioned, but here's 5 others we are supposedly linked with/talked to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callum_Camps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Smallwood_(footballer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Muldoon

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/harry-boyes/profil/spieler/746778

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Watson

I've obviously not included Cesc and Ryan as they're pretty much signing on the dotted line as i write!

I'd be very happy to see Winnall, Smallwood, Boyes and Camps here. I do wonder if Joe Sbarra might be someone we're interested in as he's commented on a few Town things on Twitter.

I like the look of Smallwood on that link

Quoted from forza ivano

OUFC supporting chum describes Winall as v. intelligent footballer; scores a few goals but better at link play nnd has good eye for a pass

been a long thread so can't be bothered to check if they've all been mentioned, but here's 5 others we are supposedly linked with/talked to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callum_Camps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Smallwood_(footballer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Muldoon

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/harry-boyes/profil/spieler/746778

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rory_Watson

I've obviously not included Cesc and Ryan as they're pretty much signing on the dotted line as i write!

Erm…. You sure mate?

Quoted from Mikey_345

Erm…. You sure mate?

haha yeah i noticed that but then is says for footballer Richard Smallwood click here.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I'll give you a name of a player that I know his agent has definitely been touch with town, Jack Muldoon and he wants the move too...as of yet nothings come of it but as I get information I'll let you know.

Son of Spotty?

Quoted from bax

Cartwright is going on loan to Peterborough apparently.

Confirmed signed on loan there today.

Do I need to get a Spanish flag from the Donnay shop yet?

I thought the Fabregas thing was just a bit of fun, then I read this:

‘I’m open to anything, I just want to have fun. The place doesn’t really matter, it’s more my head that counts. When I’m fit I feel really good, when I’m training with my team-mates I don’t feel any different when it comes to passion for the game.’

https://metro.co.uk/2022/06/18/former-arsenal-and-chelsea-midfielder-cesc-fabregas-released-by-monaco-16850518/

and now I am all like... Hmmmmmmm

An interesting first post Jake.

Wonder how Cesc feels about haddock and chips?

Quoted from ginnywings

An interesting first post Jake.

Wonder how Cesc feels about haddock and chips?

and mild, and the bags ball, and scraps, and the barca, and the wind of the north sea, and the slots, and the fitties, and cheapside, and blundell park, and the smugglers etc etc etc...........

wouldn't it just be the icing on the cake?

maybe we should put him in touch with bonetti ?

I hope Stockwood and Pettit get his signature over the line in style...at Steele's rather than Papa's

Quoted from Withnail

I hope Stockwood and Pettit get his signature over the line in style...at Steele's rather than Papa's

1878 would never be so crass as to take him on the pier! Now, a night on Docks Beer with a live band might just land it ;D ;D ;D ;D

Fabregas pictured at the Pea Bung would break the internet.

It’s still going on…..

Where’s FFS when you need him. However just in case, I flipping love you Cesc

https://twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1538239430657548290?s=21&t=kij8cqByLUdSJO-2IPjjrg

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

It’s still going on…..

Where’s FFS when you need him. However just in case, I flipping love you Cesc

https://twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1538239430657548290?s=21&t=kij8cqByLUdSJO-2IPjjrg

Almost as credible as the fact that you were an agile goalkeeper 😂😂😂

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Almost as credible as the fact that you were an agile goalkeeper 😂😂😂

Or a competent ref ;)

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Almost as credible as the fact that you were an agile goalkeeper 😂😂😂

Both you and Matt are correct, but I might well have been both…..As for Cesc😉

Finding all this Fabregas balderdash rather cringy

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

It’s still going on…..

Where’s FFS when you need him. However just in case, I flipping love you Cesc

https://twitter.com/secretransfer/status/1538239430657548290?s=21&t=kij8cqByLUdSJO-2IPjjrg

The absurdity is what makes me laugh.

Just imagine, it’s Sunday morning, you’re just about to dunk your first soldier into your dippy egg. The TV is on, Andrew Marr is interviewing some halfwit lying politician. You’re angry but not surprised, the kids have got you a card taking the urine but the sentiment and thought is there.

You go in for the second dunk, the soldier is poised but your phone flashes, it’s a Twitter alert, you open it. GTFC have tweeted one of their cryptic but not too difficult to work out tweets…it’s a Spanish flag…you message you’re mate saying ‘it’s flipping happening, he’s coming..’

You’re mate texts back, ‘you silly twit, get yourself off Twitter ya fool…’

GTFC put out another tweet…Spanish flags…could it be? Surely not?

Another tweet, and there he is, town scarf draped over the shoulders, big smile…Louis Robles…

Quoted from aldi_01

The absurdity is what makes me laugh.

Just imagine, it’s Sunday morning, you’re just about to dunk your first soldier into your dippy egg. The TV is on, Andrew Marr is interviewing some halfwit lying politician. You’re angry but not surprised, the kids have got you a card taking the urine but the sentiment and thought is there.

You go in for the second dunk, the soldier is poised but your phone flashes, it’s a Twitter alert, you open it. GTFC have tweeted one of their cryptic but not too difficult to work out tweets…it’s a Spanish flag…you message you’re mate saying ‘it’s flipping happening, he’s coming..’

You’re mate texts back, ‘you silly twit, get yourself off Twitter ya fool…’

GTFC put out another tweet…Spanish flags…could it be? Surely not?

Another tweet, and there he is, town scarf draped over the shoulders, big smile…Louis Robles…

Louis Robles has just turned down a new contract with Limbricks TNS...

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Louis Robles has just turned down a new contract with Limbricks TNS...

😉

Striker Danny Elliott (age 26) left Boston United 2 days ago. No further info. He scored 31 goals last season. Rumoured to have a few clubs after him.

Private jet scheduled from Nice to Donny tomorrow according to Lloyd Griffith 😉

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Private jet scheduled from Nice to Donny tomorrow according to Lloyd Griffith 😉

Faye play to Scunny, that’s statement signing…

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Private jet scheduled from Nice to Donny tomorrow according to Lloyd Griffith 😉

Is he still trying to flog this week old joke?

Quoted from pontoonlew

Is he still trying to flog this week old joke?

Whilst I’d be inclined to agree with your views of his comedy, I’ll always give him credit for outing the whole Alex May thing and using his significantly bigger social media presence to draw attention to it.

Let’s face it, covid, a club failing miserably with half arsed players, and no fans, we know exactly why that was the time Fenty tried to smuggle him in, the sneaky illegitimate. He was exposed and so began the unravelling of something that would most likely have seen us go through way of bury or Macclesfield.

For that I’ll always give him kudos, for joke telling, not so much…

Quoted from aldi_01

Whilst I’d be inclined to agree with your views of his comedy, I’ll always give him credit for outing the whole Alex May thing and using his significantly bigger social media presence to draw attention to it.

Let’s face it, covid, a club failing miserably with half arsed players, and no fans, we know exactly why that was the time Fenty tried to smuggle him in, the sneaky illegitimate. He was exposed and so began the unravelling of something that would most likely have seen us go through way of bury or Macclesfield.

For that I’ll always give him kudos, for joke telling, not so much…

I absolutely agree with you

Quoted from pontoonlew

I absolutely agree with you

Watched him on tour in Bristol, he stayed behind and had a beer with the audience who stayed. Invited me and my lad into Soccer AM - I’d say deffo an ok bloke.

Quoted from aldi_01

Whilst I’d be inclined to agree with your views of his comedy, I’ll always give him credit for outing the whole Alex May thing and using his significantly bigger social media presence to draw attention to it.

Let’s face it, covid, a club failing miserably with half arsed players, and no fans, we know exactly why that was the time Fenty tried to smuggle him in, the sneaky illegitimate. He was exposed and so began the unravelling of something that would most likely have seen us go through way of bury or Macclesfield.

For that I’ll always give him kudos, for joke telling, not so much…

This.

I saw his first tweet about Alex May and, along with several others, put it on here. For many, it was the straw that broke the camel’s back and Lloyd got it out there like any true fan would. Whatever you think about him, he’s all Town and that’s what matters, isn’t it?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

This.

I saw his first tweet about Alex May and, along with several others, put it on here. For many, it was the straw that broke the camel’s back and Lloyd got it out there like any true fan would. Whatever you think about him, he’s all Town and that’s what matters, isn’t it?

I don’t how much it if he gets paid but up until that point he was doing commentary for games…given the petulance of Fenty, he didn’t do it again. Almost like super fan Fenty realised he’d been exposed for what he really was…

Does anyone know what’s happening with the Cesc Fabregas signing said he was signing today and it’s getting late? Starting to worry it might not happen.

Quoted from Wiley2405

Does anyone know what’s happening with the Cesc Fabregas signing said he was signing today and it’s getting late? Starting to worry it might not happen.

I’ve been sent the photos of him at Donny airport. And one having a pint on the barge. Wish I was IT savvy enough to attach them. 🙁

Incoming announced tomorrow. Hairs on the back of your neck type signing….

Quoted from GyMariner

Incoming announced tomorrow. Hairs on the back of your neck type signing….

Announce Gav Gunning

Quoted from GyMariner

Incoming announced tomorrow. Hairs on the back of your neck type signing….

You heard what I heard? 👀👀👀👀👀

No Cesc but incredibly good signing for this division. Familar face?

Quoted from Wiley2405

You heard what I heard? 👀👀👀👀👀

No Cesc but incredibly good signing for this division. Familar face?

Come on then lads, fill us in? Feel like the spare sharp object at a wedding

Ryan Bennett tomorrow morning. Cesc failed the darts test

Quoted from GhostDan

Come on then lads, fill us in? Feel like the spare sharp object at a wedding

All I’ll say is a certain CB who may or may not have brought a house recently in the area might well have signed on to dotted line.

I've heard its Ryan Bennett too

Quoted from Numanoid

I've heard its Ryan Bennett too

Must be true then

Quoted from Wiley2405

You heard what I heard? 👀👀👀👀👀

No Cesc but incredibly good signing for this division. Familar face?

Could it be Jon Nolan?

Quoted from Wiley2405

You heard what I heard? 👀👀👀👀👀

No Cesc but incredibly good signing for this division. Familar face?

What I’ve heard sounds a lot like what you’ve heard 👀👀

Obviously the Cesc part was a joke.
Ryan Bennett 2 year deal apparently??

Wow. Rest of those tickets are going to go…

Bennett, Nolan and Fabregas will all announced tomorrow.

PH gonna play 3 at the back - Waterfall, Maher and Bennett.

Cesc will sit deep and run the game.

Efete/ Cropper down the right and Amos/ Clifton down the left.

Nolan and Holahan attacking midfielders.

McAtee and Taylor/ Orsi upfront.

Looks a strong line up!

We’ve more chance of signing Kyle Bennett again than ryan Bennett . I’d imagine Hull/Lincoln more realistic for ryan. Maybe *possible in another year if we could get promoted to league one next year

But where would that leave Waterfall in all this?

Quoted from Heisenberg

But where would that leave Waterfall in all this?

If true…3 at back…Bennett might not be able to play every match…Maher as DM?

He signed a 3 year contract with Swansea on 2020, so are they cancelling his contract or are we paying a fee?

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

If true…3 at back…Bennett might not be able to play every match…Maher as DM?

Bennett and Waterfall will both be 32

Quoted from Hagrid

Its a done deal

I’ve previously written this off as nonsense as the financials that would need to be involved just don’t stack up, but you appear to have had your ear quite close to the ground recently.

What’s the deal if this is happening? Swansea paid up a big chunk of his contract?

Quoted from Hagrid

Its a done deal

Gordon Bennett!!

Sorry Chaps going full 180 here.

Been told this is a load of cobblers.

Quoted from Hagrid

Sorry Chaps going full 180 here.

Been told this is a load of cobblers.

Didn’t you just post done deal with his brother in law being the source? Must have been deleted.

Quoted from GyMariner

Didn’t you just post done deal with his brother in law being the source? Must have been deleted.

Correct. Just been told completely different though. I deleted it myself.

I could be totally wrong, and i hope i am, think it’d be a fantastic signing for the club

Quoted from Hagrid

Correct. Just been told completely different though. I deleted it myself.

I could be totally wrong, and i hope i am, think it’d be a fantastic signing for the club

Just had me wondering because what you then posted was exactly what I’ve been told. Here’s hoping anyway!

I can assure everyone Ryan Bennett is not signing for GTFC this season

Hurst has been in contact with him but Ryan has 1 year left on his contract which is worth about £1m to him

Ryan has also had contact from other clubs in higher diversions all within daily travelling from this area

That was a very exciting read for about 20 seconds!

The Cesc thing is still happening though 🙄😂😂

Quoted from Abdul19

That was a very exciting read for about 20 seconds!

Long enough to do what I needed to do.

I should probably ignore the Jack Muldoon rumour as well, I work with his best mate and hes on £1500 per week at Harrogate and the reason we got Orsi is due to him being behind Muldoon and the others...

Quoted from Poojah

Long enough to do what I needed to do.

If Bennett’s rumoured salary at Swansea is true, he earned 73p whilst you did that.

Penny for your thoughts.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

If Bennett’s rumoured salary at Swansea is true, he earned 73p whilst you did that.

Penny for your thoughts.

I did it on Only Fans so I made a tidy sum myself.

Quoted from Poojah

I did it on Only Fans so I made a tidy sum myself.

Plural? You show off…

Quoted from coddy60

I should probably ignore the Jack Muldoon rumour as well, I work with his best mate and hes on £1500 per week at Harrogate and the reason we got Orsi is due to him being behind Muldoon and the others...

I can tell you now he's on a damn site more that.....

Quoted from Poojah

I did it on Only Fans so I made a tidy sum myself.

Fair play. Sounds like you’ve cleaned up.

Feel for your subscribers though. I’m getting flashbacks to taking my seat a minute late at Maine Road to discover The Goat had already been fed.

By the sounds of it, not the most premature leak of the night though.

Always makes me chuckle when chaps ‘are in the know’ they know salaries of other players, they know salaries and bonuses of our players, their sisters brother in law is best mates with their partners fluffer

When in reality they know nothing more than the next bloke 😂

Quoted from topuphere666

Always makes me chuckle when chaps ‘are in the know’ they know salaries of other players, they know salaries and bonuses of our players, their sisters brother in law is best mates with their partners fluffer

When in reality they know nothing more than the next bloke 😂

I don't understand how someone can claim it's happening and a member of the family told them for it to very quickly not be happening.

Maybe the leak has been found and a departure will be announced very shortly?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I can tell you now he's on a damn site more that.....

Bloody hell! I know Betty’s Tea Shop does a roaring trade, but even so!

It’s like Wagatha Christie all over again

Family members told things, minds changed, the drama of a Sunday evening.

Let’s be honest, we’d love him back here. He’s far too good for L2 and would command £££££

Hagrid disappoints again

Don't you just love the rumour mill in close season?

I've heard all sorts of names bandied about, and so far we have signed a defender who I was only slightly aware existed due to him playing against us last season and a striker I have never heard of.

Think I can wait for the official announcements without spontaneously combusting.

Quoted from Fette Schlange

Hagrid disappoints again

Silly boy.

Passed on all the info i’d be given over the past week and was all factually correct. Soon as this one was discovered to not be so, i corrected my statement

You’ve not been posting much recently, is that because we went up?

Back under your rock with Felipe

So…. Are we signing anyone tomorrow?

Can't wait to sign frabreze, he will be a breath of freah air!

Quoted from ginnywings

Don't you just love the rumour mill in close season?

I've heard all sorts of names bandied about, and so far we have signed a defender who I was only slightly aware existed due to him playing against us last season and a striker I have never heard of.

Think I can wait for the official announcements without spontaneously combusting.

That's half the fun I suppose. Names will come up, some will end up at Stockport, some others will be total balderdash we were never in for and some will actually be on the money and we will sign.

Ryan Bennet will end up at Hull

Just deleted a couple of messages on here. One was pretty offensive, the other quoted. Let’s stop with the personal insults yeah.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I can tell you now he's on a damn site more that.....

🤦🏻‍♂️

Quoted from Hagrid

Sorry Chaps going full 180 here.

Been told this is a load of cobblers.

Northampton again ?

Quoted from davmariner

So…. Are we signing anyone tomorrow?

Hagrid really needs to pull something out the bag here.

Not normally one to post this kind of stuff, but Hagrid was spot on Bennett was meant to be signing today, everything agreed but never put pen to paper, so that’s allowed reading to come in at the last minute and offer him a two year deal of which he has opted for.

Quoted from JMT

Not normally one to post this kind of stuff, but Hagrid was spot on Bennett was meant to be signing today, everything agreed but never put pen to paper, so that’s allowed reading to come in at the last minute and offer him a two year deal of which he has opted for.

As good a player as Bennett is, I assume we would have been spending a huge amount of our budget on one player who might get injured at any point so I have to say I am a little relieved this hasn’t happened (assuming it is not 1000 on the Bentley scale)

Just had a search of Bennett’s name on twitter. It ranges from him being Swansea’s highest paid player at £23k a week to having an affair with Diego Jotas’s wife when at Wolves.

Not for me if he’s going to disrupt the dressing room 😂

Quoted from topuphere666

Just had a search of Bennett’s name on twitter. It ranges from him being Swansea’s highest paid player at £23k a week to having an affair with Diego Jotas’s wife when at Wolves.

Not for me if he’s going to disrupt the dressing room 😂

Jota signing aswell then?

Quoted from Hagrid

Sorry Chaps going full 180 here.

Been told this is a load of cobblers.

This and Northampton are paying Fox £7500 a week. Have you considered that your source may be a double agent (and not a very good one).

Quoted from Mikey_345

Jota signing aswell then?

His wife is from Grantham...

not that it matters but Bennet was on 60K a week at Wolves. Hes a very rich man !

Quoted from HerveJosse

This and Northampton are paying Fox £7500 a week. Have you considered that your source may be a double agent (and not a very good one).

nope

Considering he passed on all the contract offers and the signing of Orsi

honestly some on here, you try help, and the minute your wrong there on you like a rash....

got called a thick girl private yesterday ffs!

Quoted from Hagrid

nope

Considering he passed on all the contract offers and the signing of Orsi

honestly some on here, you try help, and the minute your wrong there on you like a rash....

got called a thick girl private yesterday ffs!

Ignore it pal. You've been right quite often and many I'm sure appreciate you passing on what you've heard. Instead of just leaving it you came back and fronted up that what you'd said a short time before was wrong.

Quoted from Hagrid

nope

Considering he passed on all the contract offers and the signing of Orsi

honestly some on here, you try help, and the minute your wrong there on you like a rash....

got called a thick girl private yesterday ffs!

Don’t pay attention to the nay-sayers Hagrid, there are always some that revel in criticism.

I, and I’m sure many others on here are very grateful and appreciative of the information you have posted and thank you for it. Top work 👍👍👍

Quoted from Hagrid

nope

Considering he passed on all the contract offers and the signing of Orsi

honestly some on here, you try help, and the minute your wrong there on you like a rash....

got called a thick girl private yesterday ffs!

If someone in the club b is passing on details of all the contract offers he is definitely either a double agent or needs the sack

Lets put it this way hagrid you've been right more than wrong about things inside the club i for one appreciate reading your posts during pre season

I consider the Bennet signing story, and the Fox on 5-7K a week story as being utter nonsense, despite what people say they’ve heard.

I enjoy your posts Hagrid. Nil carborundum desperandum. ;) ;)

Quoted from Hagrid

nope

Considering he passed on all the contract offers and the signing of Orsi

honestly some on here, you try help, and the minute your wrong there on you like a rash....

got called a thick girl private yesterday ffs!

People don’t like the “in the know” kind mate, it displays their inferior knowledge. There’s also so many bullshysters about that it’s hard to weed out the reliable ones. You’ve been spot on about a few things recently so must have a decent source.

Quoted from Hagrid

nope

Considering he passed on all the contract offers and the signing of Orsi

honestly some on here, you try help, and the minute your wrong there on you like a rash....

got called a thick girl private yesterday ffs!

How do you think the club feel that someone is leaking information of contract offers and negotiations, especially when Hurst himself likes to keep everything guarded?

Don't worry about it Hagrid - you can't help it. Hope you get better soon so keep on taking your medicine

Quoted from jamesgtfc

How do you think the club feel that someone is leaking information of contract offers and negotiations, especially when Hurst himself likes to keep everything guarded?

its a fans forum, to discuss the club. dont like it dont read my posts

Back onto rumours…

Another one we can put to bed, Joe Sbarra has just signed a new 2 year contract with Solihull. Let’s hope Barnett or Dallas are more open to a move

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

Back onto rumours…

Another one we can put to bed, Joe Sbarra has just signed a new 2 year contract with Solihull. Let’s hope Barnett or Dallas are more open to a move

Means nowt. All you have to do now is pay a fee.

Quoted from Hagrid

its a fans forum, to discuss the club. dont like it dont read my posts

It would be a boring place if nobody interacted with posts they didn't agree with. But you have chosen not to answer my question, someone at the club is obviously leaking very good information relating to contracts and Paul Hurst likes to keep things close to his chest. Do you think people at the club are bothered about these leaks or not?

Quoted from Hagrid

its a fans forum, to discuss the club. dont like it dont read my posts

Have u deliberately missed the point?

This regime under PH usually keep their cards close to their chest, yet you post allsorts of 'insider knowledge' on here, regarding fox, orsi, whoever, and don't like any criticism from anyone who rightly points out you should maybe keep.these things to yourself.

You arent discussing the club in the normal way, of guessing,  you are telling private club info on a public forum, and far from discreetly.   One of your Bennett posts made it easy to work out who your alleged source was for example.

I don't get why you'd do this  beyond to to friend or 2, apart from loving the attention?

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Means nowt. All you have to do now is pay a fee.

Think it means the complete opposite, they triggered an option in his contract for a further year anyway meaning we’d of had to pay a fee. To me, this means he’s going no where.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Think it means the complete opposite, they triggered an option in his contract for a further year anyway meaning we’d of had to pay a fee. To me, this means he’s going no where.

Or with a 2 year deal he's worth a lot more than in the last 12 months of his contract.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Or with a 2 year deal he's worth a lot more than in the last 12 months of his contract.

That’s exactly it.

Quoted from Son of Cod

His wife is from Grantham...

Are you sure she not from Market Rasen too?

Quoted from topuphere666

Just had a search of Bennett’s name on twitter. It ranges from him being Swansea’s highest paid player at £23k a week to having an affair with Diego Jotas’s wife when at Wolves.

Not for me if he’s going to disrupt the dressing bed room 😂

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

That’s exactly it.

Exactly what we need to do with JM.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Or with a 2 year deal he's worth a lot more than in the last 12 months of his contract.

All this talk but was we even in for him? Maybe Hagrid can confirm this😬
I’d be slightly concerned if we had spoken to him and he chose Solihull over us.

Quoted from chaos33

Exactly what we need to do with JM.

Indeed

Cryptic tweet just posted by the club. People speculating on Twitter that it’s either Cropper signing a new deal, or the signing of Andrew Dallas. I know what my money’s on.

https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1539245356013305870

Signing Dallas would be absolutely huge. Watched him a few times and just one of those who knows where the back of the net is. I hope that we can still keep Cropper aswell.. Would love it to be a double cryptic message where Dallas signs and a Cropper extension in a oner! Be a nice way to keep Season ticket sales ticking tomorrow if they confirm tonight.

Ryan Bennett had a long throw

I’ve got a feeling it’s absolutely nothing and they’re just posting the winning goal again

Be bizarre to announce Dallas by showing him dropping bollock for our winner. Cropper seems considerably more likely!

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’ve got a feeling it’s absolutely nothing and they’re just posting the winning goal again

That occurred to me too. Think Sam Strandt is on holiday do might just have lined up some content in advance.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Be bizarre to announce Dallas by showing him dropping bollock for our winner. Cropper seems considerably more likely!

Maybe Forest Green have put up Clifton missing a sitter in the final on their feed!

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’ve got a feeling it’s absolutely nothing and they’re just posting the winning goal again

Yep, I'm with you on this, with Sam being on holiday it's towns way of keeping us at the forefront of fans minds imo.

Someone has mentioned Regan Hendry from FGR on twitter.
Would be very bizzare as he played over 30 times for them last season and got promoted!

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Someone has mentioned Regan Hendry from FGR on twitter.
Would be very bizzare as he played over 30 times for them last season and got promoted!

Would be a brilliant signing if there’s any truth in it. But unless Burchnall for some reason doesn’t fancy him, I’d be surprised.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Someone has mentioned Regan Hendry from FGR on twitter.
Would be very bizzare as he played over 30 times for them last season and got promoted!

I raise you Sousa. Loads of promoted players get released

Quoted from ex-merseymariner

Have u deliberately missed the point?

This regime under PH usually keep their cards close to their chest, yet you post allsorts of 'insider knowledge' on here, regarding fox, orsi, whoever, and don't like any criticism from anyone who rightly points out you should maybe keep.these things to yourself.

You arent discussing the club in the normal way, of guessing,  you are telling private club info on a public forum, and far from discreetly.   One of your Bennett posts made it easy to work out who your alleged source was for example.

I don't get why you'd do this  beyond to to friend or 2, apart from loving the attention?

you have no idea who my source is, i dont have a source, i get some info, i pass it on, no more than 30 mins before Orsi was announced. as said if you dont like it, dont read it.

Quoted from Humbercod

All this talk but was we even in for him? Maybe Hagrid can confirm this😬
I’d be slightly concerned if we had spoken to him and he chose Solihull over us.

i'd be surprised if we havent at least had contact with him but cant say i know either way

Quoted from immariner

I raise you Sousa. Loads of promoted players get released

He's contracted at FGR, but you point is very valid!

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Someone has mentioned Regan Hendry from FGR on twitter.
Would be very bizzare as he played over 30 times for them last season and got promoted!

Some negotiating skills that. They come in for one of yours and you end up keeping him and also taking one of there better players ;D

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

He's contracted at FGR, but you point is very valid!

Ahhh fair enough. I guess in that case it would be more strange of the player to not want to try his luck in League 1 but then he might have been told his chances will be limited and so a 2 year contract elsewhere might be tempting.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Yep, I'm with you on this, with Sam being on holiday it's towns way of keeping us at the forefront of fans minds imo.

The club is still allowed to do business when Sam is on holiday 🤷🏼‍♂️

Quoted from Hagrid

you have no idea who my source is, i dont have a source, i get some info, i pass it on, no more than 30 mins before Orsi was announced. as said if you dont like it, dont read it.

You mean your psychic?

Quoted from PoutonStepover

The club is still allowed to do business when Sam is on holiday 🤷🏼‍♂️

I know that, I ain't thick, just because I live north side now!!.🤣..

All I'm saying is we don't normally get the cryptic clues when Sam's not about, that's all.

Quoted from PoutonStepover

The club is still allowed to do business when Sam is on holiday 🤷🏼‍♂️

Yes they are but signings don't get announced. Luke Spokes spent 2 seasons with us but nobody ever got round to announcing him as Sam was on holiday.

Been talking to someone today who is related to a Left Back who is in talks about joining Town. Checked him out and he’s a little underwhelming so I’ll not say too much else, especially as there is also a little cloud hanging over the individual.
If you are desperate for a name DM me but y’know.

Shared really to demonstrate that this is one of the ares that Hurst is looking at.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Been talking to someone today who is related to a Left Back who is in talks about joining Town. Checked him out and he’s a little underwhelming so I’ll not say too much else, especially as there is also a little cloud hanging over the individual.
If you are desperate for a name DM me but y’know.

Shared really to demonstrate that this is one of the ares that Hurst is looking at.

If there’s an area on the pitch I have confidence in Hurst, it’s full back. Townsend, Magnay, Tate, Andrew, Efete. That Cropper lad’s done us alright as well, and I don’t recall being overwhelmed with elation when we signed him.

Very true. Poojah, lad in question is still pretty young and has played a good few games at this level and below.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Been talking to someone today who is related to a Left Back who is in talks about joining Town. Checked him out and he’s a little underwhelming so I’ll not say too much else, especially as there is also a little cloud hanging over the individual.
If you are desperate for a name DM me but y’know.

Shared really to demonstrate that this is one of the ares that Hurst is looking at.

I doubt it’s a budget limitation nowadays, so I suspect it’s just a case of Hursty has spotted a player with some potential who he backs himself to develop and get the most out of.

Given Hurst's track record with full back's he could sign a 36 year old from the Northern Counties League and I'd be convinced he was going to be fantastic.....

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Been talking to someone today who is related to a Left Back who is in talks about joining Town. Checked him out and he’s a little underwhelming so I’ll not say too much else, especially as there is also a little cloud hanging over the individual.
If you are desperate for a name DM me but y’know.

Shared really to demonstrate that this is one of the ares that Hurst is looking at.

Niall Mason?

He got a decent tune out of Gregor Robertson too. He can work with youngsters and those who have a whole lot of experience behind them.

If you're a full back at this level and you do your homework, you'll probably want to play for Hurst.

Quoted from Surrey97

Niall Mason?

Not heard of him, but a quick search, and i wouldn't be underwhelmed!

Last 4 seasons in league 1, playing 116 games

Quoted from Surrey97

Niall Mason?

I would highly, highly doubt that..

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Not heard of him, but a quick search, and i wouldn't be underwhelmed!

Last 4 seasons in league 1, playing 116 games

It was more a guess due to the cloud apparently over the individual. On the football side of things though, I agree it definitely wouldn’t be underwhelming.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Not heard of him, but a quick search, and i wouldn't be underwhelmed!

Last 4 seasons in league 1, playing 116 games

Probably more due to his sexual assault conviction and now playing to play in Qatar.

Doubt it's Mason, post said he's played at this level and below. Mason has never played below League 1

I would be amazed and disappointed if our current ownership were looking to sign someone with a recent conviction for sexual assault.

Could be Dion Donohue? He has a cloud hanging over him and has played a few games at this level

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I would be amazed and disappointed if our current ownership were looking to sign someone with a recent conviction for sexual assault.

Arghh, i didn't search him up on Google, as that bit probably would of come up straight away!

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I would be amazed and disappointed if our current ownership were looking to sign someone with a recent conviction for sexual assault.

They’re not, they wouldn’t. Think we can leave the discussion on him there now…

If we’re grasping names, how about gavin Massey

Quoted from Davec

Could be Dion Donohue? He has a cloud hanging over him and has played a few games at this level

That could be a shout.

It’d save a lot of random guessing if the person who posted simply said his name instead

Quoted from pontoonlew

It’d save a lot of random guessing if the person who posted simply said his name instead

I don’t know how close he is to signing, just that we are in talks. Also did explain why I’d not said who. Those who have messaged do know now but hey.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I don’t know how close he is to signing, just that we are in talks. Also did explain why I’d not said who. Those who have messaged do know now but hey.

You’d imagine we’re talking to loads of players. “In talks” can mean anything from an initial phone call from Hursty to it basically being a done deal.

George Cooper worth a look at Plymouth?

Just write the effin name instead of the BS excuses… we’re 40 pages deep of a board about speculation, nobody cares if you’re right or wrong

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I don’t know how close he is to signing, just that we are in talks. Also did explain why I’d not said who. Those who have messaged do know now but hey.

Is it Fabregas? It better be, I’ve ordered a job lot of Spanish flags to shift outside the blundell first game…

Quoted from aldi_01

Is it Fabregas? It better be, I’ve ordered a job lot of Spanish flags to shift outside the blundell first game…

The Spanish would be nothing without the basque’s

Vive le revolution

Quoted from gtfc_akpa_akpro

Just write the effin name instead of the BS excuses… we’re 40 pages deep of a board about speculation, nobody cares if you’re right or wrong

I’ve explained why

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I’ve explained why

Because you're scared of it not happening and being wrong? Just ignore the odd idiot who throws a hissy fit and starts abusing people like Hagrid because something didn't go through.

That ex Coventry youngster we had on trial last season...he as a left back wasn't he? Got into trouble for doing a load of chop and bragging about money on social media..

Quoted from Kris2

Because you're scared of it not happening and being wrong? Just ignore the odd idiot who throws a hissy fit and starts abusing people like Hagrid because something didn't go through.

No not at all, because of the bit of history the lad has. Like I said posted to illustrate an area that Hurst is definitely looking at.

It's all gone a bit quiet now on the rumours/signing front. Believe we were in for Smallwood before his move to bradford but not really heard much beyond that.

Most EFL contracts don't end until the 30th and a lot of them will be on holiday I would imagine.

I suspect those looking for new clubs won't be in a massive hurry just yet and will be weighing their options.

Quoted from Kris2

Because you're scared of it not happening and being wrong? Just ignore the odd idiot who throws a hissy fit and starts abusing people like Hagrid because something didn't go through.

I think most of the criticism (not abuse) towards Hagrid is due to his lack of discretion in revealing exactly who told him the information along with his aggressive attitude when replying to people who ask questions. I seem to recall him being a moderator but having it removed due to that aggressive attitude.

Anyway, the Coroner has stated his reasons for not sharing the information and has shared it with discretion. If we sign a left back with personal issues, well done Coroner. If we don't, Coroner never said we were signing him but thanks for keeping our Google search history interesting.

I've read about that ex-Portsmouth lad in the Portsmouth paper which puts our paper to shame. I went from not wanting a bloke convicted of GBH anywhere near the club to genuinely feeling sorry for the bloke.

Never panic about not signing players straight away,
Walsall have signed 11 so far!!!

We signed Amond in July
We signed Disley on this day 11 years ago!!!!
We signed Connell in July
We signed Tait 30th June

Not saying you have to wait for the good players, but not everything has to be done early.

In fact, we didn't sign Jon Nolan till 21st January!!!!!

Need to be a bit more expedient this season with the late finish and early start, but I'm sure PH is on it.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I think most of the criticism (not abuse) towards Hagrid is due to his lack of discretion in revealing exactly who told him the information along with his aggressive attitude when replying to people who ask questions. I seem to recall him being a moderator but having it removed due to that aggressive attitude.

Anyway, the Coroner has stated his reasons for not sharing the information and has shared it with discretion. If we sign a left back with personal issues, well done Coroner. If we don't, Coroner never said we were signing him but thanks for keeping our Google search history interesting.

I've read about that ex-Portsmouth lad in the Portsmouth paper which puts our paper to shame. I went from not wanting a bloke convicted of GBH anywhere near the club to genuinely feeling sorry for the bloke.

Yes because being called a lying girl private isnt abusive

i stepped down from being a moderator due to ongoing mental health issues stemming from the death of a family member and what it in turn led me too

i'd think before you post rubbish about me again

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Never panic about not signing players straight away,
Walsall have signed 11 so far!!!

We signed Amond in July
We signed Disley on this day 11 years ago!!!!
We signed Connell in July
We signed Tait 30th June

Not saying you have to wait for the good players, but not everything has to be done early.

In fact, we didn't sign Jon Nolan till 21st January!!!!!

Didn't sign Lumpaldinho until July either, I believe. I seem to recall it took him a while to get his fitness up that first season.

Quoted from Hagrid

Yes because being called a lying girl private isnt abusive

i stepped down from being a moderator due to ongoing mental health issues stemming from the death of a family member and what it in turn led me too

i'd think before you post rubbish about me again

Any more intel Hagrid?

We've had plenty of talks with players some just didn't come off, it happens. Akil Wright was a name floating around for a bit until he signed for Stockport. Sometimes other teams are in for them and a bidding war starts. Sometimes it also does come down to geography, not wanting to uproot their family or preferring to be near or in a major city.

Some talks are still ongoing as players have not made decisions yet or contracts will be being negotiated for finer details as agents strive to get the best deal for their man. Just have to keep working down the lists of players Hurst wants and I think there are some big surprises yet to come that everyone will be happy with.

Quoted from Kris2

We've had plenty of talks with players some just didn't come off, it happens. Akil Wright was a name floating around for a bit until he signed for Stockport. Sometimes other teams are in for them and a bidding war starts. Sometimes it also does come down to geography, not wanting to uproot their family or preferring to be near or in a major city.

Some talks are still ongoing as players have not made decisions yet or contracts will be being negotiated for finer details as agents strive to get the best deal for their man. Just have to keep working down the lists of players Hurst wants and I think there are some big surprises yet to come that everyone will be happy with.

We have seen big names come and be crap and underwhelming signings light up Blundell Park, most players we sign are a complete mystery to most on here, I am sure Hurst will do very well in this window

Club have just released another video that could be seen as cryptic.
Max’s wonder save from Dallas, quoting it as being the save of the day with a little smirking emoji at the end.
Probably nothin but I noticed that Dallas was in the last video like it.

Club are up to something ;)

Quoted from Neilo83

Club have just released another video that could be seen as cryptic.
Max’s wonder save from Dallas, quoting it as being the save of the day with a little smirking emoji at the end.
Probably nothin but I noticed that Dallas was in the last video like it.

Just seen that and thought it was hinting he’d signed.

Been speaking to a big Donny Rovers fan this morning who rates Danny Amos very highly. Said he didn’t look out of place in League One and was very unlucky with manager changes and having players in front of him. There may be a bit of rose tinted glasses as he came through their academy but with a full pre season ahead of him as full of confidence their may be a lot of potential there.

The next vid will be Bobby Ewing popping out the shower

I am sure the latest video is simply a feel good moment regarding our winner, not a cryptic clue about any opposition player.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

The next vid will be Bobby Ewing popping out the shower

Well Kate Bush is Number 1 in the charts and Top Gun is the top movie. So we may as well have this too! ;D

Quoted from pontoonlew

It’d save a lot of random guessing if the person who posted simply said his name instead

Quoted from gtfc_akpa_akpro

Just write the effin name instead of the BS excuses… we’re 40 pages deep of a board about speculation, nobody cares if you’re right or wrong

Jordan Barnett is the left back that was mentioned, released by Yeovil for putting bets on over a two year period. Has been given a 6 week suspension.

I don't get the mentality of fans being in the know and playing silly games.

In my opinion, if you have inside info you either say what it is or say nothing at all.

A lot of contributors on here tend to live in the spaces in between, which frustrates others and comes across as a constant game of oneupmanship.

Last season I knew we were talking to Ben Fox. His name hadn't been mentioned anywhere. Was told in confidence, the deal wasn't yet struck.

I had two choices. Keep it to myself or put it out there.

And why would I put it out there? Wouldn't want to shine a light on the deal, or lose the trust of the person who told me. And I'm not interested in smug personal glory.

So I kept it to myself. Didn't tell a soul. Seems to me like some fans want to share, can't help but share, but don't want to share too much and... well, it just gets messy.

Quoted from RichMariner

I don't get the mentality of fans being in the know and playing silly games.

In my opinion, if you have inside info you either say what it is or say nothing at all.

A lot of contributors on here tend to live in the spaces in between, which frustrates others and comes across as a constant game of oneupmanship.

Last season I knew we were talking to Ben Fox. His name hadn't been mentioned anywhere. Was told in confidence, the deal wasn't yet struck.

I had two choices. Keep it to myself or put it out there.

And why would I put it out there? Wouldn't want to shine a light on the deal, or lose the trust of the person who told me. And I'm not interested in smug personal glory.

So I kept it to myself. Didn't tell a soul. Seems to me like some fans want to share, can't help but share, but don't want to share too much and... well, it just gets messy.

And, in the end, players either sign or they don’t and the club announces signings anyway. People who just steer clear of anywhere other than the OS still end up knowing just as much that’s ultimately relevant. Not to say that speculation and rumours aren’t fun!

Quoted from RichMariner

I don't get the mentality of fans being in the know and playing silly games.

In my opinion, if you have inside info you either say what it is or say nothing at all.

A lot of contributors on here tend to live in the spaces in between, which frustrates others and comes across as a constant game of oneupmanship.

Last season I knew we were talking to Ben Fox. His name hadn't been mentioned anywhere. Was told in confidence, the deal wasn't yet struck.

I had two choices. Keep it to myself or put it out there.

And why would I put it out there? Wouldn't want to shine a light on the deal, or lose the trust of the person who told me. And I'm not interested in smug personal glory.

So I kept it to myself. Didn't tell a soul. Seems to me like some fans want to share, can't help but share, but don't want to share too much and... well, it just gets messy.

is it when they start to delve deeper, like wanting to know the source etc for some reason maybe to validate the post? i'd rather just take it as it is, e.g.. i hear we are looking at Tyrese Simpson ex Ipswich striker and just leave it at that. I like the updates though, and i really dont care who the source is or whether it comes to fruition. Although if they have said who it is and it end ups being true, you'd probably listen to the next one they mention, everyones different though.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

The next vid will be Bobby Ewing popping out the shower

Now I have a vision of Fenty coming out the shower. Thanks for that

I've heard a rumour that we are signing a player, I can't say who it is, I can't say what position, I can't say when they will say nor will I reveal my source but trust me!

Quoted from RexFannies

Now I have a vision of Fenty coming out the shower. Thanks for that

Erm…. Why? 😳

Quoted from Son of Cod

Jordan Barnett is the left back that was mentioned, released by Yeovil for putting bets on over a two year period. Has been given a 6 week suspension.

What a silly boy. If it's only such a short ban, you'd imagine he's only been betting on clubs in other divisions but, even so, he should know the rules.

I doubt it would stop us signing him, but that sort of a betting record might indicate a bit of a problem in other regards which needs to be taken into account.

Quoted from Davec

I've heard a rumour that we are signing a player, I can't say who it is, I can't say what position, I can't say when they will say nor will I reveal my source but trust me!

I’m told it’s someone called Aaron. A bit slow and a huge fan of Michael Barrymore.

Quoted from Neilo83

Club have just released another video that could be seen as cryptic.
Max’s wonder save from Dallas, quoting it as being the save of the day with a little smirking emoji at the end.
Probably nothin but I noticed that Dallas was in the last video like it.

Are we 100% it’s not someone who is standing in for Sam Strandt while he’s on holiday not having a clue what they’re doing with social media and emojis? The output (and quality of) has significantly dropped this week which is a shame.

Quoted from A.l.f.

Well Kate Bush is Number 1 in the charts and Top Gun is the top movie. So we may as well have this too! ;D

Is Howard’s way making a comeback alongside supergran and the krypton factor

Quoted from LH

Are we 100% it’s not someone who is standing in for Sam Strandt while he’s on holiday not having a clue what they’re doing with social media and emojis? The output (and quality of) has significantly dropped this week which is a shame.

It’s Liam from the looks of it, think you’re being a tad harsh to be fair.

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

go on then, i'll take the bait...

position??

I'm going for either Cropper or Amos re-signing

Quoted from Hagrid

Yes because being called a lying girl private isnt abusive

i stepped down from being a moderator due to ongoing mental health issues stemming from the death of a family member and what it in turn led me too

i'd think before you post rubbish about me again

I don't condone abuse but criticism and abuse are two different things. Most people haven't abused you, they have commented that you perhaps need to show some discretion rather than flagrantly revealing your sources as it could cause unfortunate consequences for those sources.

Apologies for getting my facts in a muddle, sorry for your loss and I hope you are in a better place now but I certainly recall you speaking out of tone with and without a blue name. You complain about people calling you names but you don't have to trawl back far to see you calling people names. I appreciate some of those people may be troll-like characters but I was always taught you lose the argument once you resort to insults, abuse or swearing.

Anyhow, ATAW.

Stephen Wearne from Sunderland is a name I’ve heard. Was on loan at Torquay second half of last season.

Quoted from Surrey97

Stephen Wearne from Sunderland is a name I’ve heard. Was on loan at Torquay second half of last season.

Heard where? A mate of mine is a Sunderland fan and I understand he’s highly rated there. Missed the game against us back in April, and I seem to recall he was deemed a big miss for them.

Quoted from RichMariner

I don't get the mentality of fans being in the know and playing silly games.

In my opinion, if you have inside info you either say what it is or say nothing at all.

A lot of contributors on here tend to live in the spaces in between, which frustrates others and comes across as a constant game of oneupmanship.

Last season I knew we were talking to Ben Fox. His name hadn't been mentioned anywhere. Was told in confidence, the deal wasn't yet struck.

I had two choices. Keep it to myself or put it out there.

And why would I put it out there? Wouldn't want to shine a light on the deal, or lose the trust of the person who told me. And I'm not interested in smug personal glory.

So I kept it to myself. Didn't tell a soul. Seems to me like some fans want to share, can't help but share, but don't want to share too much and... well, it just gets messy.

This thread is about rumours, substantiated or unsubstantiated.

Seems he's been released Poojah, didn't notice that they'd signed Matete, that's a class pair with him and Embleton in the centre of the park.

Quoted from Hagrid

Yes because being called a lying girl private isnt abusive

i stepped down from being a moderator due to ongoing mental health issues stemming from the death of a family member and what it in turn led me too

i'd think before you post rubbish about me again

Hagrid - you are confused, I called you a thick g.p not a lying g.p

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

The next vid will be Bobby Ewing popping out the shower

Would much prefer it be Victoria Principal. even at the right old age of 71. ;)

The team are back in to training soon, with the season fast approaching, and we obviously need a few through the door.

Saying we’re about to sign someone is a pretty safe thing to say at anytime from now on… whether you know anything or not 😂.

Quoted from Mikey_345

The team are back in to training soon, with the season fast approaching, and we obviously need a few through the door.

Saying we’re about to sign someone is a pretty safe thing to say at anytime from now on… whether you know anything or not 😂.

We’re going to have to sign 7-8 new players, even if all the outstanding players offered contracts re-sign. It’s 5 weeks on Saturday until we kick off. So we basically need 2 signings a week

Quoted from Mariner_09

We’re going to have to sign 7-8 new players, even if all the outstanding players offered contracts re-sign. It’s 5 weeks on Saturday until we kick off. So we basically need 2 signings a week

I’d hope the signing would be through the door a couple of weeks before the season starts with the expection of maybe a loan or 2. Need a couple of weeks to get to know the squad and how Hurst wants them to play. That’s in an ideal world but it doesn’t always work out like that with players holding out looking at their options.

Quoted from Wiley2405

I’d hope the signing would be through the door a couple of weeks before the season starts with the expection of maybe a loan or 2. Need a couple of weeks to get to know the squad and how Hurst wants them to play. That’s in an ideal world but it doesn’t always work out like that with players holding out looking at their options.

I am starting to get a teeny bit worried now. When we signed Maher I though we were going to see a steady inflow of quality players. But so far we have had one leave, three re-sign, and only one other newcomer.

Hopefully the pace will pick up in the coming week.

Quoted from LH

Are we 100% it’s not someone who is standing in for Sam Strandt while he’s on holiday not having a clue what they’re doing with social media and emojis? The output (and quality of) has significantly dropped this week which is a shame.

Only Sam can announce signings, just ask Luke Spokes.

The club account can only tweet interesting, high quality and teasing things when there is something relevant. What these "boring" posts do however is keep the official account ticking over, appearing on timelines and getting likes which helps the algorithm help @officialgtfc grow.

Quoted from DB

This thread is about rumours, substantiated or unsubstantiated.

I get that mate, and I accept it, but it doesn't explain the behaviour.

If it's unsubstantiated then yeah, great, thanks for letting me know it's pure speculation and you're having a stab in the dark.

If it's substantiated then why is it such a struggle to explain how it's substantiated? Just explain the source, the info, and stop being an attention-seeking tease.

Or consequently just wait til the official announcements. Thank god this is a shorter pre season..

Rumours/gossip the clues in the title surely? Nothing has to be substantiated does it? People getting their knickers in a twist, if it bothers you what people are suggesting then don’t read the thread. Looking forward to the new season with Garath and Seb playing, I’m sure I’ve read somewhere they’re sighing!😂🤣😂🤣 UTM and here’s to a cracking season ahead!

Quoted from RonMariner

I am starting to get a teeny bit worried now. When we signed Maher I though we were going to see a steady inflow of quality players. But so far we have had one leave, three re-sign, and only one other newcomer.

Hopefully the pace will pick up in the coming week.

Whilst I’m not in the know whatsoever, I can guarantee there are at least a few who have signed/re-signed and are waiting to be announced (potentially when Sam is back from his holiday)

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

Whilst I’m not in the know whatsoever, I can guarantee there are at least a few who have signed/re-signed and are waiting to be announced (potentially when Sam is back from his holiday)

I was told before the season ended that Battersby had signed a 2 year deal and will be second choice. Whether or not promotion demotes him I'm unsure but I'm always certain that announcements are phased. I'm sure Waterfall being announced 10 minutes before Fox signed for Northampton wasn't a coincidence.

Some absolute Lamparding in here. It's a rumour thread on a League 2 football forum lads.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I was told before the season ended that Battersby had signed a 2 year deal and will be second choice. Whether or not promotion demotes him I'm unsure but I'm always certain that announcements are phased. I'm sure Waterfall being announced 10 minutes before Fox signed for Northampton wasn't a coincidence.

I’d be slightly surprised if that were the case, personally. If Crocombe picked up a long-term injury on 1st September, then that’s four full months you’d be relying on a goalkeeper with almost no senior experience whatsoever.

I say that of course having never seen him play, and so I’ve no idea how good he actually is. I just think it would be sensible to add another senior-ish keeper to the squad, given the likely budget we’ll have at our disposal.

Quoted from Poojah

I’d be slightly surprised if that were the case, personally. If Crocombe picked up a long-term injury on 1st September, then that’s four full months you’d be relying on a goalkeeper with almost no senior experience whatsoever.

I say that of course having never seen him play, and so I’ve no idea how good he actually is. I just think it would be sensible to add another senior-ish keeper to the squad, given the likely budget we’ll have at our disposal.

Hursty sees him every day in training and will be a better judge of where he’s at than any of us on here. If that’s the case, would seem Hursty thinks he’s up to playing for months if needs be. If he thinks that, better off using the budget elsewhere.

Quoted from Poojah

I’d be slightly surprised if that were the case, personally. If Crocombe picked up a long-term injury on 1st September, then that’s four full months you’d be relying on a goalkeeper with almost no senior experience whatsoever.

I say that of course having never seen him play, and so I’ve no idea how good he actually is. I just think it would be sensible to add another senior-ish keeper to the squad, given the likely budget we’ll have at our disposal.

Promotion may change him being second choice as there is a much more stringent transfer window. Our squad must be a maximum of 22 players which must contain at least 8 home grown players. Goalkeepers and anyone under 21 is excluded from that 22 man squad list but still eligible to play.

Until Battersby has played 5 League Two, League Cup or FA Cup games (but not EFL Trophy) he is not considered a professional goalkeeper so if Crocombe got injured, suspended or called up to the New Zealand squad we can utilise the emergency loan system. Battersby is an easy seventh substitute that complies with the academy product rules and Hurst may feel that is a risk worth taking as he can utilise the emergency loan system.

Personally I want Battersby to stay, I don't know how good he is but know he's well thought of and I think he needs to go out and get regular games.

Will Hurst bring in another keeper? I would like to think so but he is well known for taking risks here. McKeown went through a spell without competition and in the most important games of the season, Shaun Pearson was the closest thing we had to a sub goalkeeper.

Quoted from Mikey_345

It’s Liam from the looks of it, think you’re being a tad harsh to be fair.

I don’t do harsh, I do honest.

Last week I’d leave my phone in my locker at work and come back every break to numerous notifs from Town’s Twitter. Few and far between this week bar some mis-spelt fixture lists and random smirk emojis. It shows how good Sam is if anything.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Hursty sees him every day in training and will be a better judge of where he’s at than any of us on here. If that’s the case, would seem Hursty thinks he’s up to playing for months if needs be. If he thinks that, better off using the budget elsewhere.

I don't know but I'd be more inclined to suspect it was based on an assumption we'd be NL next year. It seemed very unlikely we wouldn't be until the 119th minute ofbthe Wrexham game at least.

In league 2 you have to have 3 goal keepers don't you? The idea we'd be having Battersby as 2nd choice and bringing in a 3rd even more inexperienced keeper I think is unlikely especially give the long periods of being unable to correct the situation.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Some absolute Lamparding in here. It's a rumour thread on a League 2 football forum lads.

Great verb.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Promotion may change him being second choice as there is a much more stringent transfer window. Our squad must be a maximum of 22 players which must contain at least 8 home grown players. Goalkeepers and anyone under 21 is excluded from that 22 man squad list but still eligible to play.

Until Battersby has played 5 League Two, League Cup or FA Cup games (but not EFL Trophy) he is not considered a professional goalkeeper so if Crocombe got injured, suspended or called up to the New Zealand squad we can utilise the emergency loan system. Battersby is an easy seventh substitute that complies with the academy product rules and Hurst may feel that is a risk worth taking as he can utilise the emergency loan system.

Personally I want Battersby to stay, I don't know how good he is but know he's well thought of and I think he needs to go out and get regular games.

Will Hurst bring in another keeper? I would like to think so but he is well known for taking risks here. McKeown went through a spell without competition and in the most important games of the season, Shaun Pearson was the closest thing we had to a sub goalkeeper.

Fair point I didn't realise we could use the emergency system as Battersby wouldn't count, but could be on the bench for an in-game emergency and count as a home grown. Like you say he has been surprisingly risk taking in the past about keepers. I remember him playing fa Cup games (v Shrewsbury) with 7 on the bench and still no sub keeper! Got into a tiff with JT about it I recall. Its especially surprising when you would say that mostly he's quite a Conservative manager.

On the other hand I remember him having a superb young Dean Henderson here, who the moment bignot played him everyone in the ground could see he was streets ahead of macca (no offence to macca its just that deano was that good). But Hurst had had him for months and not played him once, preferring the known albeit inferior quality of macca.

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I’d be slightly surprised if that were the case, personally. If Crocombe picked up a long-term injury on 1st September, then that’s four full months you’d be relying on a goalkeeper with almost no senior experience whatsoever.

I say that of course having never seen him play, and so I’ve no idea how good he actually is. I just think it would be sensible to add another senior-ish keeper to the squad, given the likely budget we’ll have at our disposal.

I believe EFL rules mandate three keepers in your squad.

Quoted from toontown

Fair point I didn't realise we could use the emergency system as Battersby wouldn't count, but could be on the bench for an in-game emergency and count as a home grown. Like you say he has been surprisingly risk taking in the past about keepers. I remember him playing fa Cup games (v Shrewsbury) with 7 on the bench and still no sub keeper! Got into a tiff with JT about it I recall. Its especially surprising when you would say that mostly he's quite a Conservative manager.

On the other hand I remember him having a superb young Dean Henderson here, who the moment bignot played him everyone in the ground could see he was streets ahead of macca (no offence to macca its just that deano was that good). But Hurst had had him for months and not played him once, preferring the known albeit inferior quality of macca.

With any other manager, I would be very confident that another keeper would be coming in but the goalkeeping situation is one that Hurst has always gone against his conservative principles like you say.

McKeown openly says that his biggest achievement is keeping Henderson on the bench for 4 months. Players have said that the minute Henderson stepped foot on Cheapside, his quality was clear. I've often struggled to understand how Henderson played second fiddle for Hurst here in League 2 but spent the following season as undisputed first choice under Hurst at Shrewsbury.

I understand the reason with 5 subs for not having a keeper on the bench for most league games but I wasn't the only one in block 139 at the London Stadium worrying that we didn't have a keeper on the bench when Crocombe got kicked on the edge of his box. Had that forced him off the pitch, can you imagine the criticism from all angles if we lost?

From reading this thread, my biggest concern is if somebody else signs our twitter/social media guy. How would we be able to sign anybody without him to report on it with some sort of cryptic, dusty-bin style posts.

I can't imagine a scenario where we won't be signing another keeper, rules or not.

I doubt there are any other EFL squads that only have 1 experienced keeper on their books.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

With any other manager, I would be very confident that another keeper would be coming in but the goalkeeping situation is one that Hurst has always gone against his conservative principles like you say.

McKeown openly says that his biggest achievement is keeping Henderson on the bench for 4 months. Players have said that the minute Henderson stepped foot on Cheapside, his quality was clear. I've often struggled to understand how Henderson played second fiddle for Hurst here in League 2 but spent the following season as undisputed first choice under Hurst at Shrewsbury.

I understand the reason with 5 subs for not having a keeper on the bench for most league games but I wasn't the only one in block 139 at the London Stadium worrying that we didn't have a keeper on the bench when Crocombe got kicked on the edge of his box. Had that forced him off the pitch, can you imagine the criticism from all angles if we lost?

Hurst was loyal to McKeown. Not the worst trait to have as a manager.

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In Bound

or maybe not.......

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I can't imagine a scenario where we won't be signing another keeper, rules or not.

I doubt there are any other EFL squads that only have 1 experienced keeper on their books.

Well there are, but then again it's like 5 weeks til the season starts.😉

E.g. Hull have 1 senior keeper, and the grimbarian lad on loan to posh but I guess they'll be getting someone in.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

.........when Crocombe got kicked on the edge of his box

Eye-watering

Quoted from Surrey97

Stephen Wearne from Sunderland is a name I’ve heard. Was on loan at Torquay second half of last season.

My mates a Sunderland supporter and says he’s a player in the embleton mould. He was Shocked he got released as showed potential

Guess they may wait a while to announce signings as season tickets are selling well still, nothing like new signings to start sales of tickets again.

I like to think we have signed and re-signed several players but we are just delaying announcing them.

Quoted from Davec

I like to think we have signed and re-signed several players but we are just delaying announcing them.

I would imagine this is the case. I knew about Khouri’s deal before the Wrexham game so I’d say a couple of more are in the same boat.

If players are still away, then there's no interview opportunity unless pre--recorded.

Looking at Monday onwards probably for the next run of news !

Quoted from ginnywings

I can't imagine a scenario where we won't be signing another keeper, rules or not.

I doubt there are any other EFL squads that only have 1 experienced keeper on their books.

Exactly. Battersby isn't going to develop much by playing in 3 EFL Trophy matches & playing reserve team games. We should be looking to get him a full season of first team football somewhere. To facilitate that we need another senior goalkeeper at the club.

Quoted from Davec

I like to think we have signed and re-signed several players but we are just delaying announcing them.

I think somebody pointed out that player contracts run until 30th June so next Friday will see a whole swath of signings throughout the EFL.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Exactly. Battersby isn't going to develop much by playing in 3 EFL Trophy matches & playing reserve team games. We should be looking to get him a full season of first team football somewhere. To facilitate that we need another senior goalkeeper at the club.

I was thinking exactly this that them lot down the a180 could be ideal for him

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

I was thinking exactly this that them lot down the a180 could be ideal for him

Agent Battersby??

Club debating 12:30 or 6pm on Twitter. I predict we have 2 announcements today. I predict Clifton will be one of them.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Club debating 12:30 or 6pm on Twitter. I predict we have 2 announcements today. I predict Clifton will be one of them.

Yep, pretty sure Clifton's already done.

I reckon there are all already done. We’d have heard about them signing somewhere else by now.

Taylor. 1 year contract

It turns out it’s Taylor signing a new deal, pleased, but teased into thinking it’d be a new signing

Yeah I've heard Clifton, Cropper and Battersby all signed.

My understanding is the Clifton deal wasn't cut and dry and was very much GTFC pulling it out the bag last minute to keep him at the club. Was a very good chance of him going to FGR until Town (after alot of back and forth) at the last minute bettered there offer (just what I've heard though so dont take this as gospell).

Think a few have heard Battersby deal been done for a while.

Was told earlier in the week Cropper has signed a 1 year deal.

I'd imagine Amos will be nailed on to sign.

Be nice to see Mcatee sign an extended deal as well.

Strange it was announced by humberside before the club announced it

Taylor has signed a new deal 😂😂^^

Quoted from ClarkyGTFC

Strange it was announced by humberside before the club announced it

It was on the website at 12:30, twitter was just a few minutes behind

Great news. With the timing of the announcement, suspect there will be something more happening later in the day

https://gtfc.co.uk/taylor-signs-new-town-deal/

Great that he's resigned, very important to the team last year.

Must admit though, the original tweet did massively hint at a new signing, would think we’ll see something on that front rather soon.

If he was out of contract then it basically is a new signing?? It’s not an extension is it?

Great news. Best player of that ilk we've had since Lumpaldinho. Links the best with and gets the most out of McAtee.

This is just as important as any new signing. You wont get a better hold up player than Ryan Taylor at this level for what we are prepared to pay.

Very pleased he's signed and it will be interesting to see who we get in as a 'Plan B' alternative. Last year it was LJL until Mani and Abrahams arrived but I suspect we'll see somebody a bit younger as backup (or someone pushing Taylor for a place) this season!

Quoted from Maringer

Very pleased he's signed and it will be interesting to see who we get in as a 'Plan B' alternative. Last year it was LJL until Mani and Abrahams arrived but I suspect we'll see somebody a bit younger as backup (or someone pushing Taylor for a place) this season!

Personally, I think Orsi is the backup/Plan B and we'll be in for another striker perhaps someone who is more established at this level.

Quoted from GyMariner

If he was out of contract then it basically is a new signing?? It’s not an extension is it?

Contracts don't end until 30th June, so its an extension.

I thought Orsi was more of an out and out goalscorer than a link-up man? From the highlights clip of him which was put up, I'd have thought he'd be the one running onto flicks and passes from Taylor rather than playing the other role. Obviously, highlights don't show everything and I'd never heard of him until he signed so it might be the case that Hurst is thinking of him playing more of that sort of a role.

You'd think he'll be able to learn a lot from Taylor who is a very smart cookie as a player. Doesn't rely on brawn or pace to do his job but it's a lot about getting into the right position at the right time.

Quoted from Maringer

I thought Orsi was more of an out and out goalscorer than a link-up man? From the highlights clip of him which was put up, I'd have thought he'd be the one running onto flicks and passes from Taylor rather than playing the other role. Obviously, highlights don't show everything and I'd never heard of him until he signed so it might be the case that Hurst is thinking of him playing more of that sort of a role.

You'd think he'll be able to learn a lot from Taylor who is a very smart cookie as a player. Doesn't rely on brawn or pace to do his job but it's a lot about getting into the right position at the right time.

Yeah sorry I didn't necessarily mean as back up to Taylor, more just as in general backup up top or a different option. We'd obviously need to tweak the system we played last season if we're playing McAtee, Taylor and Orsi though.

Yeah I’d personally be slightly disappointed if we didn’t have another striker walk through the door who looked like rivaling Taylor for the starting berth

I’d like to see Mani back. Always a good option from the bench.

Of course, it might be that Hurst is envisioning a slightly different style of play at times as well. A 4-3-3 (4-3-2-1?) or a 5-3-2 would change the mix up front to some degree. The way we played last season was very reliant on people getting up to support Taylor who was left isolated too much when we weren't doing well. Also the problem with McAtee dropping deep to midfield to get the ball sometimes, leaving him with limited options to play it forward.

Difficult to say until we see the final squad and can work out the permutations it implies.

Just boot it up the field and chase it

Last time we were in League 2, PH brought in Vernon, who was very similar in style to Taylor and we were doing quite well before the manager upped sticks.

We did have Bogle as well though until Jan.

Not forgetting Tuton, who was as bad as Bogle was good, and Jackson on loan but I suspect we have a bit more money this time around and will be bringing in another decent option up top.

Almost forgot about Tuton. Kind of crazy how different the careers of him and Jackson went after both being bought by Barnsley from non-league teams at the same time and then both joining us on loan. Tuton seemed to have no understanding of the offside rule at all and the only memorable thing I can recall is him being rugby tackled in the box and the penalty not being given for some reason.

Montel Gibson reminded me of him with also having no understanding of positioning and endlessly being caught offside.

Quoted from RonMariner

I’d like to see Mani back. Always a good option from the bench.

He may be wanting regular 1st team football though, so if that's offered to him, even in the National League he'll probably go there.

What is this news at 6pm then? I would hope it is a new signing rather than a re-signing.

Quoted from Maringer

I thought Orsi was more of an out and out goalscorer than a link-up man? From the highlights clip of him which was put up, I'd have thought he'd be the one running onto flicks and passes from Taylor rather than playing the other role. Obviously, highlights don't show everything and I'd never heard of him until he signed so it might be the case that Hurst is thinking of him playing more of that sort of a role.

You'd think he'll be able to learn a lot from Taylor who is a very smart cookie as a player. Doesn't rely on brawn or pace to do his job but it's a lot about getting into the right position at the right time.

you're correct - he's an Amond type player, who should work well with Taylor

On Stephen Wearne , have an old mate who's a Torquay STH -
'He was good, but got injured and returned to Sunderland. We had him as a sort of wingback , used to love cutting back inside. Bit lightweight at times, but got good in the end'

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

This is just as important as any new signing. You wont get a better hold up player than Ryan Taylor at this level for what we are prepared to pay.

How do you know what we’re willing to pay?

Quoted from Davec

What is this news at 6pm then? I would hope it is a new signing rather than a re-signing.

You’d imagine it’s Clifton

Yep, definitely Clifton

Quoted from pontoonlew

Yep, definitely Clifton

Always thought he would stay, Grimsby Town through and through. 8) 8) 8)

UTM

Quoted from DB

Always thought he would stay, Grimsby Town through and through. 8) 8) 8)

UTM

He absolutely is, however what I’m happy about is that we don’t seem to have that for granted and just assumed he’d stay because we’re his home club. It appears we fought hard to keep him which shows his worth, not simply as a Grimsby lad!

Quoted from ginnywings

Last time we were in League 2, PH brought in Vernon, who was very similar in style to Taylor and we were doing quite well before the manager upped sticks.

We did have Bogle as well though until Jan.

Not forgetting Tuton, who was as bad as Bogle was good, and Jackson on loan but I suspect we have a bit more money this time around and will be bringing in another decent option up top.

I can remember being quite underwhelmed. Bud once he

Quoted from ginnywings

Last time we were in League 2, PH brought in Vernon, who was very similar in style to Taylor and we were doing quite well before the manager upped sticks.

We did have Bogle as well though until Jan, whose goals helped behind

Not forgetting Tuton, who was as bad as Bogle was good, and Jackson on loan but I suspect we have a bit more money this time around and will be bringing in another decent option up top.

I can remember being quite underwhelmed when we signed Vernon as our apparent first choice striker in our first season back in the league. Despite a 1 in 3 goal/game ration I just thought we’d signed a journeyman searching for a last payday. However O actually he did ok, well even at Town. He was an excelllent foil for other attacking players and even though he only scored 4 goals in 56 games, I suspect he helped make a whole lot more.

Gonna spend the next hour watching highlights of that season just to refresh myself on what winning a league game of football actually feels like 😆

Edit: As a side note. And I know they are currently several levels below Town (unsure exactly how many) but his record for Clee Town is excellent.

Games: 112
Goals: 89

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Gonna spend the next hour watching highlights of that season just to refresh myself on what winning a league game of football actually feels like 😆

We've actually won 3 of our last 6 league games, even winning our last home one with a Green/Jackson strike partnership ;D

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

I can remember being quite underwhelmed when we signed Vernon as our apparent first choice striker in our first season back in the league. Despite a 1 in 3 goal/game ration I just thought we’d signed a journeyman searching for a last payday. However O actually he did ok, well even at Town. He was an excelllent foil for other attacking players and even though he only scored 4 goals in 56 games, I suspect he helped make a whole lot more.

Gonna spend the next hour watching highlights of that season just to refresh myself on what winning a league game of football actually feels like 😆

Edit: As a side note. And I know they are currently several levels below Town (unsure exactly how many) but his record for Clee Town is excellent.

Games: 112
Goals: 89

Terrible in front of goal for a league 2 club but he was still levels above Clee Town. Was amazed when he signed for them

Quoted from Mariner_501

Terrible in front of goal for a league 2 club but he was still levels above Clee Town. Was amazed when he signed for them

Isn't he a gas fitter or plumber as a day job now? Maybe just easier to play for Clee whilst living and working locally?

I don't think I remember a time when we had so few rumours during a pre season. Apart from the re-signing players hardly any new names have been thrown into the ring.

Is Millfields closed? Has that petrol station on the A46 shut down? Mind you, the Ryan Bennet and Cesc Fabregas fantasy were right up there as rumours go.

Quoted from RonMariner

I don't think I remember a time when we had so few rumours during a pre season. Apart from the re-signing players hardly any new names have been thrown into the ring.

Is Millfields closed? Has that petrol station on the A46 shut down? Mind you, the Ryan Bennet and Cesc Fabregas fantasy were right up there as rumours go.

Hurst likes to keep things close to his chest and the 1878 broom swept out a couple of people who most definitely knew what was going on in Ian Fleming and Dale Ladson which may have reduced a few of the things that used to get out.

I'm all for random guesses and identifying who the random people are in pre-season clips but I also like the club running a tight ship and Hurst signing people we've never heard of.

I actually prefer it when a signing comes out of the blue than when his name has been touted on here for weeks

Orsi and Maher had come with zero inside knowledge prior to the announcement, Maher had only been speculated as someone who we thought would be good

Quoted from AdamHaddock

I actually prefer it when a signing comes out of the blue than when his name has been touted on here for weeks

Yeah, social media has killed off so much of the transfer excitement of yesteryear so it’s always nice when some come unexpected.

I’d imagine we’ll see a lot of movement in the week after as players return to pre season and contracts expire, not convinced we’ll see much this coming week.

Think it'll be the opposite and busier this week as players get contracts sorted before their old ones expire, think that's what I'd do for peace of mind as much as anything.

can we sign John Akinde? only way to prevent him from scoring past us

Quoted from Mariner93er

Think it'll be the opposite and busier this week as players get contracts sorted before their old ones expire, think that's what I'd do for peace of mind as much as anything.

Sure that’ll be the case but I doubt we’ll hear about them until we’re back in for pre season

Agreed terms with Anthony Glennon i am told. Apols if this has been aired already

Quoted from Lincspoacher

Agreed terms with Anthony Glennon i am told. Apols if this has been aired already

This would be awesome if true.

Quoted from Lincspoacher

Agreed terms with Anthony Glennon i am told. Apols if this has been aired already

I thought he was class and destined for higher things when he was here. Barrow haven't been impressed by him but he looked decent for us and Hurst knows his full backs. I'd be happy with Glennon and Amos competing at left back.

Having loads of quality full-backs is PH's wet dream...perhaps Paul might call him a winger if we do sign him, then he can have another full-back...

I know he's had mixed reviews at barrow which really surprises me when you think how good he was as a young lad a few years ago for us. I'd be happy to see him back and I would expect he would have been keen to sign if offered given how much he enjoyed himself here before.

Wasn't his first game orient away last time? Could be again!

Would be very happy with Glennon back he looked quality when he was here before.

Thought Glennon was destined for big things when we had him here before. I’d be very happy to see him return, and I believe Hurst would get the best out of him.

Surprisingly I think mixed reviews is being generous.

Yeah Barrow fans slated him but they were excrement last season, there’s no way his performances here were a fluke, quality player

I'd heard Glennon was Donny bound. Would be good if we're beating them to a player though. Despite Barrow not rating him I'd have him here in a heartbeat personally.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Yeah Barrow fans slated him but they were excrement last season, there’s no way his performances here were a fluke, quality player

100% We didn't see him in a one off against us, it was a number of games and he was consistently very good. Him, Amos, Efete and Cropper would give us great options at full back.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

100% We didn't see him in a one off against us, it was a number of games and he was consistently very good. Him, Amos, Efete and Cropper would give us great options at full back.

Could almost play all four, Glennon and Efete very good attacking full backs. (I said almost 😂)

Quoted from Mikey_345

Could almost play all four, Glennon and Efete very good attacking full backs. (I said almost 😂)

Well we played two left-backs (Chapman and Gallimore) for our greatest result in modern history so why not go the whole hog with two right-backs as well...

See on twitter reports of Chris Kirkland coming in as GK coach? But also heard Steve Croudson is coming back so can’t see it being true.

Quoted from You stripes UTM

See on twitter reports of Chris Kirkland coming in as GK coach? But also heard Steve Croudson is coming back so can’t see it being true.

Think you can rule that one out considering 1) Kirkland has confirmed “no truth whatsoever and 2) this is the source of the rumour:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DennisEAutoDeal/status/1538276192964444162

Quoted from ska face

Think you can rule that one out considering 1) Kirkland has confirmed “no truth whatsoever and 2) this is the source of the rumour:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DennisEAutoDeal/status/1538276192964444162

Hahahaha that’s brilliant. Made me giggle, looks like Croudson then, be a great appointment

I’m under the impression the Glennon rumours are 100% true

Quoted from pontoonlew

Yeah Barrow fans slated him but they were excrement last season, there’s no way his performances here were a fluke, quality player

You just have to look at Waterfall to see how much of a difference to a player's perceived ability is when playing with/without confidence. Rubbish for us in a struggling team with no confidence compared to being our best player last season.

So Glennon might have been rubbish for them and is underperforming but there is definitely a player in there.

Do the players report back to pre season training this week or next week? I always thought it was next week but seen some People say this week, we may see the signings ramp up once pre season training starts

Quoted from Davec

Do the players report back to pre season training this week or next week? I always thought it was next week but seen some People say this week, we may see the signings ramp up once pre season training starts

Given that we kick off on 30th July this season and Hurst said the winning team gets 3.5 weeks off, I'd expect them back Wednesday/Thursday of this week.

Quoted from Davec

Do the players report back to pre season training this week or next week? I always thought it was next week but seen some People say this week, we may see the signings ramp up once pre season training starts

Back next Monday. Expect multiple signings this week with player contracts expiring, return to training and the start of the season just a month away on Thursday.

Croudson currently coach at Lincoln isn't he?

So who else is signing this week? There’ll be a few I’d guess.

Quoted from Davec

Do the players report back to pre season training this week or next week? I always thought it was next week but seen some People say this week, we may see the signings ramp up once pre season training starts

4th July according to the telegraph

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

So who else is signing this week? There’ll be a few I’d guess.

Callum Cooke looks like he could be one of those ‘hurst’ type players. Though maybe too similar to McAtee

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Callum Cooke looks like he could be one of those ‘hurst’ type players. Though maybe too similar to McAtee

Odd one Cooke, in that he was virtually ever present for Bradford last season but got released. They have signed Richie Smallwood in his position however, who is an excellent signing for this level.

I seem to recall that Glennon was similar to Amos - not the tallest, dark-haired but decent with the ball at his feet. A lot better going forward than Amos from what I can recall, however. It's not perhaps a surprise he never broke through into the Burnley team but you'd have thought he would have done OK at Barrow. Possibly just a bit ring-rusty as, until last season, he doesn't appear to have played any proper football since his loan spell with us! Has he been injured?

Cropper will have played with Glennon at Burnley, and we know Hurst likes to sign players who will fit in.

Quoted from RichMariner

Cropper will have played with Glennon at Burnley, and we know Hurst likes to sign players who will fit in.

and of course there's plenty of people at the club who Hurst trusts to tell him the type of character Glennon is and how he settled in

I wonder if Hurst will even use all of his budget? Players we've signed so far and Glennon if he comes won't be demanding too high of a wage I wouldn't imagine. It may be that we have some bigger marquee signings in the works but Hurst doesn't seem like the guy who would spend for the sake of it. He also seems to like wiggle room for if any changes are needed in January.

Think there was big excitement (from me included) when rumours of this season's budget circulated and maybe some expectations of big signings that would be a statement of intent so to speak. But I'm not sure this will be the case and we've always done well under Hurst without doing so.

Quoted from male private Nale

Croudson currently coach at Lincoln isn't he?

Currently, yeah.

;-)

Quoted from It Bites

Inbound

Today do you know? Got a name?

Quoted from It Bites

Inbound

you said that on Thursday too, n nothing happened

Quoted from forza ivano

you said that on Thursday too, n nothing happened

yeah thats true i was refreshing Twitter like a possessed man lol

Quoted from It Bites

Inbound

As I said the other day, just saying inbound at any point, this close to preseason is a pretty safe bet considering we still have players to re sign and need a fair few new ones…

You said it Thursday as well…

Quoted from It Bites

Inbound

Troll.

Quoted from It Bites

Inbound

What, the 5.15pm from London at Grimsby station!?..

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

What, the 5.15pm from London at Grimsby station!?..

Sundays 5.15pm train*
It was slightly delayed.

Looks like IB was right 8) .

Announcement at 6pm.

Believe it’s Jon Nolan

Maybe so, still standby with what I said though.. 😂

Quoted from You stripes UTM

Believe it’s Jon Nolan

Would be very nice that 🙌

Glennon, my source has confirmed.

I said source to make me sound important, it's actually a guess.

Everyone is just going with the most rumoured players over the last week because they want to be right and look credible so I'm just going to say my sources tell me we've agreed a fee to sign Dallas and he's being announced. ;D

I have no idea either but I will go as far as ruling out the runner up of the fifth series of The Voice, Jolan. I mean, he's not even a footballer for a start.

So there you have it, our next signing will be non-Jolan.

Surely not Nolan, he’s barely kicked a ball for a year

Quoted from buckstown

Surely not Nolan, he’s barely kicked a ball for a year

Weren't Fox and Cropper in the same boat when we signed both of them?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Weren't Fox and Cropper in the same boat when we signed both of them?

Danny Andrew was like it aswell!

Quoted from buckstown

Surely not Nolan, he’s barely kicked a ball for a year

Still, at 30 with his undoubted quality, worth a pint for any L2 side in my book.

Steven wearne ex Sunderland

Quoted from Abdul19

Glennon, my source has confirmed.

I said source to make me sound important, it's actually a guess.

Did he indeed?!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Did he indeed?!

No. Obviously ;D

I did say inbound...... Also last week was about Clifton. I don't know who they are I just know they're inbound

Glennon is a goer. Not sure when though.

Quoted from chaos33

Currently, yeah.

;-)

Coming home 🙂

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Glennon is a goer. Not sure when though.

Yep, those scoffing at others for suggesting Glennon will need to keep the ‘delete post’ option handy

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Glennon is a goer. Not sure when though.

There is a whole process even after people sign anyway. To make an announcement they want photos and an interview ready to go and that's not always going to be the exact moment they sign up for scheduling reasons or people still on holiday, etc.

Quoted from It Bites

I did say inbound...... Also last week was about Clifton. I don't know who they are I just know they're inbound

It's the last week of June. Saying inbound has a good chance of being right.

Quoted from Kris2

There is a whole process even after people sign anyway. To make an announcement they want photos and an interview ready to go and that's not always going to be the exact moment they sign up for scheduling reasons or people still on holiday, etc.

While working at the ground last year, I would see people turn up who were obviously players and their agents, and would see them having a photo taken with the obligatory scarf above their head and sometimes a video interview being done.

I would get home, log on here expecting an announcement and there was often nothing.

Quoted from ginnywings

While working at the ground last year, I would see people turn up who were obviously players and their agents, and would see them having a photo taken with the obligatory scarf above their head and sometimes a video interview being done.

I would get home, log on here expecting an announcement and there was often nothing.

Exactly, if you’d been around last Tuesday you’d likely have seen an extremely Scouse looking fella

Quoted from pontoonlew

Exactly, if you’d been around last Tuesday you’d likely have seen an extremely Scouse looking fella

Yosser Hughes? 🤔

Posters should have a separate rating/reputation for rumourmongering. Positive score for a correct rumour, bonus points for a scoop/first call, minus points for an incorrect shout. Anyone in minus territory end the end of the transfer window is completely banned from the board for the duration of the next transfer window. Sorry, we’re all busy and very serious people, we don’t have time to waste on duff rumours.

BPmariner and Surrey97 doing well this summer, Hagrid close behind, a few lingering at the danger zone & looking dicey for January.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Yosser Hughes? 🤔

Well he could do anything. Even double up for Graeme Souness.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Exactly, if you’d been around last Tuesday you’d likely have seen an extremely Scouse looking fella

Jon Nolan?

Was it BPMariner who told us all the Jan signings before they were announced, or was that someone else?

Quoted from pontoonlew

Exactly, if you’d been around last Tuesday you’d likely have seen an extremely Scouse looking fella

[tweet]1541528179663376384[/tweet]

in before the rumours start again...

Quoted from JMT

[tweet]1541528179663376384[/tweet]

in before the rumours start again...

Not again… 😂

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Yosser Hughes? 🤔

Gis a job, you only have to kick a ball I can do that

Quoted from JMT

[tweet]1541528179663376384[/tweet]

in before the rumours start again...

What does it say? It won't load for me

I can’t see Hurst risking Bogle but after all the daft speculation over the years, it’s actually the most realistic time for Bogle to come because if it’s not us, it’ll be a Non League club almost certainly.

He’s in last chance saloon territory and we’d be the best place for him but I think it’ll be us turning him down and not the other way round.

Forgive my ignorance but who is the ‘extremely scouse-looking chap’ who has been referred to that was at the club last week?

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Forgive my ignorance but who is the ‘extremely scouse-looking chap’ who has been referred to that was at the club last week?

Glennon

Bogle has 2 years left on his contract, so unless someone is paying a chunk of money for him, he doesn't look to be going anywhere, least of all here.

Any more news on Ryan Bennett?

Quoted from Reverendmariner

Any more news on Ryan Bennett?

We spoke with him and both parties were very interested but his demands are out of our league. Reading or Lincoln is his next move 👍

Quoted from ginnywings

Bogle has 2 years left on his contract, so unless someone is paying a chunk of money for him, he doesn't look to be going anywhere, least of all here.

Apparently he hasn't travelled with them for pre-season.

I know a perfect manager that can sort an individual out, it's just the question, does PH try get him after being rejected last season?

I would be more than happy, but i just don't think it works at this time.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Apparently he hasn't travelled with them for pre-season.

I know a perfect manager that can sort an individual out, it's just the question, does PH try get him after being rejected last season?

I would be more than happy, but i just don't think it works at this time.

Without wanting to go down this particular rabbit hole for a fourth consecutive summer, I think he’d be perfect for us if Hurst could get half a tune out of him.

For all his quality, at 34 I’m not convinced Taylor will be fit or prolific enough to be our first choice ‘number 9’ next season, and an in form Bogle (if such a thing still exists) would be the perfect foil for McAtee whilst offering a greater level of goal threat.

If for any reason his face no longer fits at Hartlepool and they’re looking to move him on (he’s certainly not travelled to their training camp in the Algarve), you’d have to consider it, wouldn’t you? Even if the very suggestion is a massive cliche now.

Not sure on how true it is, but some people on social media seem to think Bogle is Solihull bound.

Quoted from Surrey97

Not sure on how true it is, but some people on social media seem to think Bogle is Solihull bound.

Makes sense. Personally, I think his league career ended after 3 games at Wigan. An immense player here 6 years ago, but I wouldn't want him back, for any number of reasons.

Quoted from Surrey97

Not sure on how true it is, but some people on social media seem to think Bogle is Solihull bound.

If he goes, i'll put money on them going up this year for sure.

Quoted from Surrey97

Not sure on how true it is, but some people on social media seem to think Bogle is Solihull bound.

Think that's probably a bit of 2 + 2 as is usual in these situations, but would make sense. Tend to agree with Poojah (as most of us probably do a lot of). If it wasn't such a cliché now it'd be a decent shout. He's certainly not moving up, if he is moving. Hopefully his situation is sorted very quickly as I don't fancy another trip on this merry go round that we have every transfer window ;D

Quoted from Poojah

Without wanting to go down this particular rabbit hole for a fourth consecutive summer, I think he’d be perfect for us if Hurst could get half a tune out of him.

For all his quality, at 34 I’m not convinced Taylor will be fit or prolific enough to be our first choice ‘number 9’ next season, and an in form Bogle (if such a thing still exists) would be the perfect foil for McAtee whilst offering a greater level of goal threat.

If for any reason his face no longer fits at Hartlepool and they’re looking to move him on (he’s certainly not travelled to their training camp in the Algarve), you’d have to consider it, wouldn’t you? Even if the very suggestion is a massive cliche now.

I don't think Taylor is in the squad as first choice #9 and hasn't been since he came here. He's an out and out targetman, isn't he? I don't see Taylor playing as much though, I'm with you on that. I'm not sure how Taylor, McAtee and Orsi/another #9 will fit into a side together so that could be a factor in how much game time he gets. I think we got a very decent amount of football out of him last season based on his age, injury record and how much he puts himself about but how much of that was down to the lack of options we had up top? I'd like to think with a bit more budget and being back in the league we'll be a little more stacked in that department so as not to burden Taylor and McAtee.

Bogle scored 19 League goals in the half-season after we won promotion.

He's since scored 24 goals in the 5 and a half seasons. I suppose that he's been playing above his level during most of that period, but he scored 1 in 4 at our current level last season. As a striker who offered little more than goals even when he was at his best (he wasn't much cop at leading the line), I'd not be interested in having him back.

A move back to Solihull wouldn't surprise but I seem to think the rumours were that he was more interested in starting a music career than playing football in recent seasons.

Quoted from Maringer

Bogle scored 19 League goals in the half-season after we won promotion.

He's since scored 24 goals in the 5 and a half seasons. I suppose that he's been playing above his level during most of that period, but he scored 1 in 4 at our current level last season. As a striker who offered little more than goals even when he was at his best (he wasn't much cop at leading the line), I'd not be interested in having him back.

A move back to Solihull wouldn't surprise but I seem to think the rumours were that he was more interested in starting a music career than playing football in recent seasons.

I've heard that music thing before to be fair.

In fact, i know a club that will get the right tune out of him.

Bogle is a busted flush IMO
Attitude has stopped him from being a solid Championship player at the very least

Obviously I’d support him if he did sign but I’d rather we didn’t. Does Hurst need the extra work trying to get a tune out of him?

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

I've heard that music thing before to be fair.

In fact, i know a club that will get the right tune out of him.

The cesc pistols?

Just going on that bloke from the vets rumour

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

We spoke with him and both parties were very interested but his demands are out of our league. Reading or Lincoln is his next move 👍

But we were told his brother in law told us it was definitely happening...

Quoted from jamesgtfc

But we were told his brother in law told us it was definitely happening...

You do know things can change all the time dont you 🥱🥱

We are in advanced discussions with Jon Nolan also. Not sure how “ advanced” but club are confident

Quoted from Hagrid

You do know things can change all the time dont you 🥱🥱

We are in advanced discussions with Jon Nolan also. Not sure how “ advanced” but club are confident

To be fair, that Sunderland documentary opened my eyes.
You can have a guy coming in to sign, then boom, gone.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

To be fair, that Sunderland documentary opened my eyes.
You can have a guy coming in to sign, then boom, gone.

Indeed!

I always remember a signing i think 2004/2005 time? Sam Aston, he was literally on his way to sign for us, got a call bout 20 mins before, and went and signed for Notts County

Would like to interrupt the transfer talk to marvel at how good the pitch at Cheapside looks 8)

https://twitter.com/OCowling/status/1541742837968080897

Quoted from jamesgtfc

But we were told his brother in law told us it was definitely happening...

His brother in law was taking the urine, he changed his tune when he realised it was spreading round town!

Quoted from Hagrid

Indeed!

I always remember a signing i think 2004/2005 time? Sam Aston, he was literally on his way to sign for us, got a call bout 20 mins before, and went and signed for Notts County

We’d announced his signing I recall, although I think it was Tranmere he went to. Similarly with Liam Hatch from
Darlo, who seemingly signed without telling his missus, who promptly said “not on your nelly”, causing him to politely ask us to rip up his contract.

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Would like to interrupt the transfer talk to marvel at how good the pitch at Cheapside looks 8)

https://twitter.com/OCowling/status/1541742837968080897

Quoted from Poojah

We’d announced his signing I recall, although I think it was Tranmere he went to. Similarly with Liam Hatch from
Darlo, who seemingly signed without telling his missus, who promptly said “not on your nelly”, causing him to politely ask us to rip up his contract.

Ah yes i remember the Hatch one also! Was that under Woodsy?

Quoted from Hagrid

Ah yes i remember the Hatch one also! Was that under Woodsy?

‘twas. All’s well that ends well, as we signed Rob Duffy instead.

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Would like to interrupt the transfer talk to marvel at how good the pitch at Cheapside looks 8)

https://twitter.com/OCowling/status/1541742837968080897

That’s not Cheapside is it??

Quoted from Hagrid

Indeed!

I always remember a signing i think 2004/2005 time? Sam Aston, he was literally on his way to sign for us, got a call bout 20 mins before, and went and signed for Notts County

Yeah but we're still confident of signing Jermaine Palmer!

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/2337193/aiston-stuns-mariners

New signing coming today. Wonder who :-/

Quoted from Hagrid

You do know things can change all the time dont you 🥱🥱

We are in advanced discussions with Jon Nolan also. Not sure how “ advanced” but club are confident

I only stated that Local Lads version of events didn't correspond with the information passed down from his brother in law...

Nolan did great for us in 2016 and did a job. He needed us to get his career on track as much as we needed him. I trust Hurst and will support whoever we sign but personally, I would be rather we went after someone else. See also Bogle.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1541749617976541188

Going to guess Amos.

Reckon it's Amos signing a new deal...

Danny Amos based off that Twitter hint. Don’t you know pump it up, the town are going up

Nery Pumpido on a one year deal.

Quoted from jimgtfc

That’s not Cheapside is it??

Looks like it to me. The Sunday League team I helped run played there several years ago and I'd recognise those trees anywhere. :)

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I only stated that Local Lads version of events didn't correspond with the information passed down from his brother in law...

Nolan did great for us in 2016 and did a job. He needed us to get his career on track as much as we needed him. I trust Hurst and will support whoever we sign but personally, I would be rather we went after someone else. See also Bogle.

I do partly agree, all depends on how much of a
Toll these injuries have taken on him, if he’s fit and firing we’ll have a great player. Suppose its all about what we can offer but as said the club are pretty confident of getting him

Don't know if I've missed something but what's the link from that tweet to Danny Amos?

Lovely bit of content

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1541751271538950147?s=19

Quoted from Tommy

Don't know if I've missed something but what's the link from that tweet to Danny Amos?

He was singing that song at the London Stadium

Quoted from Tommy

Don't know if I've missed something but what's the link from that tweet to Danny Amos?

I think he was on camera singing it after the play-off final

The club did suggest ‘transfer Tuesday’ so I’m presuming this won’t be it for the day

Quoted from Abdul19

Lovely bit of content

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1541751271538950147?s=19

OMG. We're signing Karl Fletcher

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/76y13LB2/Capture.jpg[/img]

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1541753025127010305?s=19

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Welcome back Amoss

I laugh every time.

So who is left to sign that was offered?

Cropper, Scannell and Battersby who im certain has already signed just not been announced

So is Amos "incoming" or are we to expect a new face?

Quoted from Hagrid

So who is left to sign that was offered?

Cropper, Scannell and Battersby who im certain has already signed just not been announced

I'd be amazed if Cropper and Scannell haven't signed too.

Especially Scannell, who you'd have thought would have signed the contract as soon as they put it on the table, given his situation.

Quoted from Tommy

I'd be amazed if Cropper and Scannell haven't signed too.

Especially Scannell, who you'd have thought would have signed the contract as soon as they put it on the table, given his situation.

Unless it's on massively reduced terms

Quoted from AdamHaddock

Unless it's on massively reduced terms

Massively reduced terms vs no terms?

He's surely not going to get offered a deal elsewhere until he's fit again, so any contract would surely be better than nothing for 6 months plus?

Anybody heard if McAtee has signed a new deal? I’m taking it as a given he’s been offered one?!

Quoted from GhostDan

Anybody heard if McAtee has signed a new deal? I’m taking it as a given he’s been offered one?!

He’s under contract

Quoted from Hagrid

He’s under contract

We know that, but there was talk of offering him an extended one.

Quoted from Hagrid

He’s under contract

Good job your ITK isn’t it!

Fully aware he’s under contract, was clearly enquiring if anybody had heard anything about extending.

Might be wrong, but i'm sure it said McAtee has been offered an improved deal

Quoted from pontoonlew

The club did suggest ‘transfer Tuesday’ so I’m presuming this won’t be it for the day

Yep. You can’t call it ‘transfer’ Tuesday and only announce a re-signing. There has to be a new one too.

The club never called it transfer tuesday. Relax, we’ll be fine come the start of the season

I’ve got Trading Standards on standby just in case

Quoted from GyMariner

The club never called it transfer tuesday. Relax, we’ll be fine come the start of the season

Correct, they just replied to a tweet which said 'transfer tuesday'

Quoted from Surrey97

Not sure on how true it is, but some people on social media seem to think Bogle is Solihull bound.

I hope so !

He's part of our history - good history - so let's
keep it that way.

In regard to the Bogle situation, not trying to sound like an bottom hole here, but I don’t think that a squad could handle the ego’s of Mcatee and Bogle. Both absolutely amazing players, but if they were to clash, it could certainly divide the squad.

Club appear to be teasing another on Twitter. Unsure if new or a re sign.

Edit: looks like Cropper..

Edit: Edit: It was Cropper… 😂

No thanks to Bogle’s ego. He was brilliant back then. Wont work now.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Might be wrong, but i'm sure it said McAtee has been offered an improved deal

I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere too, but I was trying to find it the other day and couldn't so perhaps we both imagined it?

Quoted from chaos33

No thanks to Bogle’s ego. He was brilliant back then. Wont work now.

100% Agree

Quoted from chaos33

No thanks to Bogle’s ego. He was brilliant back then. Wont work now.

Me too. Rather have Mani back!

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Might be wrong, but i'm sure it said McAtee has been offered an improved deal

19 may twitter mattdean did an interview was hurst which said they'd opened talks with mcatee re a new contract

Quoted from GyMariner

Inbound tomorrow

What happened to inbound today?????? :K)

Today's signings were already here.

Quoted from DB

What happened to inbound today?????? :K)

They did sign and do their media stuff today technically. They'll probably save it for tomorrow to space out announcements and let huge ones shine on their own, you'll have to wait til tomorrow ;D

Quoted from GyMariner

Inbound tomorrow

The club said we may see them tomorrow. Probably Battersby and an announcement on whether Scannell has decided to stay or not.

Quoted from Kris2

They did sign and do their media stuff today technically. They'll probably save it for tomorrow to space out announcements and let huge ones shine on their own, you'll have to wait til tomorrow ;D

So what you are saying is that the club will announce a signing of a new player who has had no connection with the club this last season, tomorrow being the 29th June.

Call me miserable or boring etc but I’m not particularly fond of our social media ‘teasing’ signings only to churn out a couple of contract renewals that didn’t really need all the theatre

Otis Khan signing tomorrow

Quoted from pontoonlew

Otis Khan signing tomorrow

That would be surprising. Doesnt ever seem to stay anywhere long and i recall when he was at Mansfield he got a ban for something or another so doesnt seem a Hursty Type character but he certainly knows more than me!

This isn’t any ITK thing as such, it’s come from Leyton Orient fans who’ve said he’s agreed a 2 year deal here that’s being announced tomorrow so it stacks up

Quoted from pontoonlew

Call me miserable or boring etc but I’m not particularly fond of our social media ‘teasing’ signings only to churn out a couple of contract renewals that didn’t really need all the theatre

Stick to just checking on here or the OS then, I'm enjoying the creative videos. Today's made me smile

Quoted from pontoonlew

This isn’t any ITK thing as such, it’s come from Leyton Orient fans who’ve said he’s agreed a 2 year deal here that’s being announced tomorrow so it stacks up

where you seeing that lew? Had a look at both their forums and I'm not seeing anything (except a few favourable comments about him)

Quoted from lukeo

Stick to just checking on here or the OS then, I'm enjoying the creative videos. Today's made me smile

I’m sure they did, but I’m not sure why they’re ‘teasing’ fans with things that aren’t quite the signings they suggested, seems unnecessary

Remember him being highly rated at Sheff Utd when he was younger but never really settled anywhere.. If he does sign I’ll trust Hursty and what he sees.

Quoted from forza ivano

where you seeing that lew? Had a look at both their forums and I'm not seeing anything (except a few favourable comments about him)

Here Forza

[tweet]1541838004662280192[/tweet]

Seen it elsewhere on another forum from an Orient fan who seems sure, would certainly be a random thing to make up

He's under contract at Orient so we might be paying a fee (if this is true).

thanks lew - some thoughts here on him

https://lofcforum.com/forum1/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=267646&hilit=otis+khan#p267646

https://lofcforum.com/forum1/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=262405&hilit=otis+khan#p262405

https://lofcforum.com/forum1/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=246051&hilit=otis+khan#p246051

Didn't he score against us for Barrow on a Tuesday night in the conference? I was there and I seem to remember Otis Khan scoring against us direct from a corner

https://www.thefootballforum.net/threads/league-2-transfer-rumours-confirmed-transfers-2020-2021.9/page-1284#post-1132961

Quoted Text

We're allowing Otis Khan to join Grimsby on a 2 year deal - He was ok for us and ok for Walsall last season, but he doesn't really fit into Wellens 4-3-3 formation as we have better players in his preferred position. Useful signing for Grimsby. Announced tomorrow apparently.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Call me miserable or boring etc but I’m not particularly fond of our social media ‘teasing’ signings only to churn out a couple of contract renewals that didn’t really need all the theatre

Steady! You‘ll get accused of being miserable.

Looking through his Wikipedia page he turned down playing for Pakistan as he had ambitions of playing for England. Must have been a talented kid to have that level of confidence.

He doesn't seem to stay anywhere long but neither does Mani D and look how good he was for us under Hurst.

In Hurst and Doig we trust.

Quoted from chipsandgravy

Would the Omar Bogle chant/song work on him?

I Khan get it to fit personally.

Vaguely remember him playing for Mansfield, seems to have become a bit of a L2 journeyman since then with spells at a few different clubs.

Quoted from Kris2

Vaguely remember him playing for Mansfield, seems to have become a bit of a L2 journeyman since then with spells at a few different clubs.

Hurst has cooked a few of these up and they’ve turned out to be decent…I know you’re not having a dig but it does seem that Hurst can get the best out of players.

Whats the deal with the manager at Orient seems a weird thing to do to play an attacking midfielder at right back.

Glennon has signed on loan for a year then ?

If true (Otis Khan) thats another player with a decent set-piece delivery. Looks similar to McAtee & Wearne & JMD in the way he plays and looks an intelligent player. I dont take too much notice with stats as anything can be a contributing factor, like new Manager and becomes out of favour or playing in a different position etc.

Quoted from It Bites

Glennon has signed on loan for a year then ?

Difficult for someone to loan him to us when he doesn’t have a club currently..

So according to Twitter we are in for Khan, Glennon, Nolan, Bennett and Fabregas. Any of these likely? Fabregas for sure but what about the rest?

Quoted from It Bites
Glennon has signed on loan for a year then ?

Are you looking at the old twitter post from 2020

Quoted from LondonMariner43

So according to Twitter we are in for Khan, Glennon, Nolan, Bennett and Fabregas. Any of these likely? Fabregas for sure but what about the rest?

The rumour mill has actually been pretty quiet this year. The Khan rumours have come from an Orient forum, Nolan is purely speculation. Wearne was mentioned by I think just one poster on here, we hadn’t heard any rumours regarding Orsi and the only thing we heard regarding Maher was that people thought he’d be a good signing. If he signs, Glennon will be the first one where we’ve heard some strong noise in advance.

Quoted from LellyEm

Quoted from It Bites
Glennon has signed on loan for a year then ?

Are you looking at the old twitter post from 2020

Errrrr might of been .... Busted 😂😅. I'll get my coat

Quoted from It Bites

Errrrr might of been .... Busted 😂😅. I'll get my coat

That was the Year 3000……so I was told 😢

Seems to have gone unnoticed ,but harry Boyes signed for the Veggies on loan yesterday, so that rather supports the story that Glennon will be signing

PS on otis Khan ,& i hope I'm not being paranoid , his favoured position is playing just behind a front 2. How does that fit in with McAtee; add into that Wearne and Orsi both being attacking players and you see where I'm going with this?

Quoted from forza ivano

Seems to have gone unnoticed ,but harry Boyes signed for the Veggies on loan yesterday, so that rather supports the story that Glennon will be signing

PS on otis Khan ,& i hope I'm not being paranoid , his favoured position is playing just behind a front 2. How does that fit in with McAtee; add into that Wearne and Orsi both being attacking players and you see where I'm going with this?

One of the main reasons we won promotion was our ability to bring quality players of the bench later in the games. With more subs available, this will become more and more relevant, the game has changed, it is no longer a first team and a sub just in case someone gets injured. Managers are planning games in sections and using the greater number of subs tactically to increase their options. If you can bring on someone of similar quality but with variations in their style after a player has run themselves into the ground after sixty minutes it has to be a massive plus. If we are looking to play a pressing game this is even more important

Don't know too much about him, but he's one i have previously heard off.

I remember him at Tranmere more than anywhere else.
Quick search shows he played 37 times for them, and they finished in the play-offs that season
He turned down a new contract, as a league 1 club come in for him. But the deal broke down, and ended up at Walsall (Taken from Tranmere forum).... all sounds positive

At the age of 26, this has the potential to be a perfect Hurst signing IMO.

Quoted from forza ivano

Seems to have gone unnoticed ,but harry Boyes signed for the Veggies on loan yesterday, so that rather supports the story that Glennon will be signing

PS on otis Khan ,& i hope I'm not being paranoid , his favoured position is playing just behind a front 2. How does that fit in with McAtee; add into that Wearne and Orsi both being attacking players and you see where I'm going with this?

From the end of the season squad, we have lost Mani, Jones, Abrahams, Sousa, Wright, John-Lewis, Raikhy, Fox, Burgess and Scanz is injured. A large percentage of those need to be replaced in terms of midfield/attack.

Quoted from codcheeky

One of the main reasons we won promotion was our ability to bring quality players of the bench later in the games. With more subs available, this will become more and more relevant, the game has changed, it is no longer a first team and a sub just in case someone gets injured. Managers are planning games in sections and using the greater number of subs tactically to increase their options. If you can bring on someone of similar quality but with variations in their style after a player has run themselves into the ground after sixty minutes it has to be a massive plus. If we are looking to play a pressing game this is even more important

Bang on. I also think that Hurst is steering us away from an over reliance on Taylor. Great when the hold up and flicks are working but too one dimensional when they don't come off. Taylor and McAtee, as in the playoffs, will not play in or finish every game. We can see the ingredients being assembled but as yet we can only guess at the recipe for the Mariner Cake. An exceedingly good one we hope!

Quoted from forza ivano

Seems to have gone unnoticed ,but harry Boyes signed for the Veggies on loan yesterday, so that rather supports the story that Glennon will be signing

PS on otis Khan ,& i hope I'm not being paranoid , his favoured position is playing just behind a front 2. How does that fit in with McAtee; add into that Wearne and Orsi both being attacking players and you see where I'm going with this?

How does Harry Boyes signing on loan support Glennon signing. As stated above Glennon does not have a club to loan him

Quoted from LellyEm

How does Harry Boyes signing on loan support Glennon signing. As stated above Glennon does not have a club to loan him

Boyes is a left back and we have one under contract already in Amos so Boyes not signing means we are still in the market for one.

Otis Khan would again be a very interesting signing and potentially another gem. He was one of the star men at Yeovil, chipped in with his fair share of goals + assists and highly sought after. He got a move to Moneybags mansfield but looking at his stats, he was seemingly a bit part player. A change of manager saw him get loaned out to Newport before moving onto tranmere where by all accounts he had a good season before rejecting a new deal in the hope of a move to league one. As someone mentioned, that didn’t materialise as moved onto Walsall where he has a short successful spell until January when he moved to orient.

Perhaps he’s wanting to move up north again? He’s a Manchester lad and perhaps he’s wanting to play on his preferred attacking role (I’ve read that he’s been utilised as a Rwb in the last couple of seasons) . You’ll find plenty of positive comments from fans of previous clubs, clearly there is a talented player there, who’s played and proved at league two level who’s maybe not just found the right club, the right manager at the right time. If he produces here, he will be adorned , we love a skillful attacker who can produce goals/assists/create chances. By all accounts he puts a shift in too, which under Paul hurst, it’s pretty much a given.

Last season, our wide players just didn’t produce enough, scannell hardly played unfortunately, same with max Wright and Joel grant was non existent. Sousa played but his end product was badly lacking. maguire drew did show some quality but has to show more next season and Clifton isn’t a natural winger. Clearly hurst is addressing this with the signings of Khan and wearne so far, and it will be interesting to see how they perform.

We know if there’s a manager out there who can get the most out of talented players it’s hurst. (A la mcatee) a three of Khan, mcatee, wearne behind Taylor (or a new number 9) certainly has the potential to create chances, score goals and get us fans off our seats. A master stroke by hurst? You wouldn’t bet against it.

UTM

Still not sure why Harry Boyes going to FGR indicates we're signing Glennon?
Very un Hurst like chucking a two year deal at someone with so many clubs but guess he sees something in Khan and trusts himself and the team to get it out into the open. Doubters should always go back to signing Nolan!!

Quoted from forza ivano

Seems to have gone unnoticed ,but harry Boyes signed for the Veggies on loan yesterday, so that rather supports the story that Glennon will be signing

PS on otis Khan ,& i hope I'm not being paranoid , his favoured position is playing just behind a front 2. How does that fit in with McAtee; add into that Wearne and Orsi both being attacking players and you see where I'm going with this?

We need a squad not just an XI. And every place in the team is up for grabs. We are short of numbers for central midfielders, attacking midfielders (wide & McAtee role) and out and out striker.

Quoted from buckstown

Still not sure why Harry Boyes going to FGR indicates we're signing Glennon?
Very un Hurst like chucking a two year deal at someone with so many clubs but guess he sees something in Khan and trusts himself and the team to get it out into the open. Doubters should always go back to signing Nolan!!

Have you ever considered that Hurst gave out mostly 1-year deals during his last spell at the club because the owner wouldn't allow longer term deals? And that worked well because Hurst left and any momentum we had went with him.

Quoted from buckstown

Still not sure why Harry Boyes going to FGR indicates we're signing Glennon?
Very un Hurst like chucking a two year deal at someone with so many clubs but guess he sees something in Khan and trusts himself and the team to get it out into the open. Doubters should always go back to signing Nolan!!

No, what indicates we're signing Glennon is that the contract has already been signed and the photos having already been taken for the OS, social media and local news etc...

No rumours on Longe-King staying or leaving?

Obviously he's staying unless we hear otherwise, but it was clear from last season that he either wasn't in Hurst's plans (strange, given he had a two-year deal) or he wanted to be back down south.

Quoted from RichMariner

No rumours on Longe-King staying or leaving?

Obviously he's staying unless we hear otherwise, but it was clear from last season that he either wasn't in Hurst's plans (strange, given he had a two-year deal) or he wanted to be back down south.

I seem to remember hearing he was feeling homesick/wasn't fond of the area. So I imagine he will by on the lookout for a move down south, and I assume Hurst wouldn't stand in his way

Quoted from RichMariner

No rumours on Longe-King staying or leaving?

Obviously he's staying unless we hear otherwise, but it was clear from last season that he either wasn't in Hurst's plans (strange, given he had a two-year deal) or he wanted to be back down south.

I would think if we get Smith back on loan, or someone similar, that will signal Longe-King’s time at the club to be at an end.

I think Longe King is a good player and it's good he came to us and tried to progress up the ladder. I wish him well if he chooses to move on and I agree a Smith loan deal would be an upgrade.

Bogle to Newport apparently

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Bogle to Newport apparently

If true, Bogle’s turning into a Padraig Amond tribute act. Omar just needs to rock up at Sligo Rovers and Paços de Ferreira and he’s (almost) got the full set.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Bogle to Newport apparently

More clubs than Rory McIlroy

Quoted from codcheeky

One of the main reasons we won promotion was our ability to bring quality players of the bench later in the games. With more subs available, this will become more and more relevant, the game has changed, it is no longer a first team and a sub just in case someone gets injured. Managers are planning games in sections and using the greater number of subs tactically to increase their options. If you can bring on someone of similar quality but with variations in their style after a player has run themselves into the ground after sixty minutes it has to be a massive plus. If we are looking to play a pressing game this is even more important

For me, it was this ability to refresh the forward line off the bench that won promotion. If we had had the same personnel at the beginning of the season I think we would’ve run the title very close. The problem when the wheels fell off was that our bench was weak they were no forwards / game changers to bring on

Quoted from Zmariner

For me, it was this ability to refresh the forward line off the bench that won promotion. If we had had the same personnel at the beginning of the season I think we would’ve run the title very close. The problem when the wheels fell off was that our bench was weak they were no forwards / game changers to bring on

It’s for this very reason I think we might yet see more new signings than many expect.

There are two big changes for Town from last season. Firstly, we are limited to two rigid transfer windows so there won’t be the luxury of the mid-season wheeling and dealing that benefited us last season, and secondly we’ll have the ability to use 5 subs from 7 on the bench.

Next season will be a squad game more so than ever before, and options from the bench will be an absolute necessity in my opinion.

Leyton Orient have signed George Moncur from Hull. Big signing at this level. Putting 2 and 2 together, Khan leaving to free up some wage budget.

Wonder if Ryley Towler might be looking for a loan move? Very impressive last year I thought

Quoted from Hants.Mariner

I would think if we get Smith back on loan, or someone similar, that will signal Longe-King’s time at the club to be at an end.

Could well be wrong, but I don't think Hurst is interested in bringing loans this time around - he's putting together a squad of his own.
It may well need tweaking with loans as the season progresses.
He got Maher in sharpish as a permanent replacement for Smith & now has 5 senior centre backs on the books (including Goundry).
Manny's contract is up with Tranmere so he's a maybe - but we missed a striker for the whole of last season & that too became a priority signing in Orsi.

Thats a really good signing for Orient

The club have posted a teaser of the home shirt (spoiler alert it’s Black and White stripes).

Possibly indicates no news on signings today?

Or a new signing will be wearing the new kit!

We're signing someone with no arms

Or the new shirt is about to be unveiled

Macron down each shoulder, red collar.. MyEnergi sponsor is in black with a little green bit near it.. Really do like it.

Quoted from AdamHaddock

We're signing someone with no arms

Just had this confirmed. It’s former Greece international Venus De Milo.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Could well be wrong, but I don't think Hurst is interested in bringing loans this time around - he's putting together a squad of his own.
It may well need tweaking with loans as the season progresses.
He got Maher in sharpish as a permanent replacement for Smith & now has 5 senior centre backs on the books (including Goundry).
Manny's contract is up with Tranmere so he's a maybe - but we missed a striker for the whole of last season & that too became a priority signing in Orsi.

As Poojah said though, there's no emergency loans, or March deadline back in the big time.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a year long loan or 2, don't really see any difference between that and a permanent 1 year deal (apart from the possibility of a Jan recall which I hadn't thought of at the start of this sentence).

Quoted from Marinerdan

Just had this confirmed. It’s former Greece international Venus De Milo.

He wasn’t filling his car up on theM180 was he?

Quoted from AdamHaddock

We're signing someone with no arms

Hopefully not a goalkeeper

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Hopefully not a goalkeeper

Nick Colgan?

Quoted from buckstown

He wasn’t filling his car up on theM180 was he?

He was, he’d just stopped to nip to the Louvre though.

That sounds fairly armless

Quoted from HertsGTFC

More clubs than Rory McIlroy

14 McIlroy, 12 Bogle, sure he will have overtaken him shortly though!

Quoted from Marinerdan

Just had this confirmed. It’s former Greece international Venus De Milo.

Another long throw in

Quoted from coddy60

14 McIlroy, 12 Bogle, sure he will have overtaken him shortly though!

2 eagle

Great to see the squad coming together and So far most of those offered new deals signing back on. We have kept the nucleus of the promotion winning side. Last time in 2016 I felt we were wrong in letting a lot of that promotion side go. The team got ripped up. Who knows what that team could haver achieved in L2.

I am looking forward to a flurry of new faces over the next week or two. I believe the squad return to pre-season training next Monday.

by my reckoning 12 of the 1st team squad with the club at the end of season have gone. GK Macca LB Crookes CB Smith CM Coke CM Fox CM Burgess CM J Jones CM Raikhy W Sousa W Wright F Mani F Abrahams.

So far 3 new signings CB Maher W Wearne F Orsi

So what do we still need even allowing for one or two of the young lads to maybe be in and around the 1st team. ? Another 6 or 7 i would say at least be it permanent or loan deals.

GK
maybe a CB if Longe-King does leave
LB
2 or 3 CM
wide player (or 2 if Scannell doesnt come back)
at least another CF

New signing incoming, some words about to be eaten

Quoted from pontoonlew

New signing incoming, some words about to be eaten

I'm eating an ice cream myself.

Quoted from BottesfordMariner

Great to see the squad coming together and So far most of those offered new deals signing back on. We have kept the nucleus of the promotion winning side. Last time in 2016 I felt we were wrong in letting a lot of that promotion side go. The team got ripped up. Who knows what that team could haver achieved in L2.

I am looking forward to a flurry of new faces over the next week or two. I believe the squad return to pre-season training next Monday.

by my reckoning 12 of the 1st team squad with the club at the end of season have gone. GK Macca LB Crookes CB Smith CM Coke CM Fox CM Burgess CM J Jones CM Raikhy W Sousa W Wright F Mani F Abrahams.

So far 3 new signings CB Maher W Wearne F Orsi

So what do we still need even allowing for one or two of the young lads to maybe be in and around the 1st team. ? Another 6 or 7 i would say at least be it permanent or loan deals.

GK
maybe a CB if Longe-King does leave
LB
2 or 3 CM
wide player (or 2 if Scannell doesnt come back)
at least another CF

With Danny Rose and Glen Downey ... Joel Grant leaving right at the end of the season you can probably make that 14 Bottesford and I imagine they were both on a reasonable wage.

GTFC just tweeted "1/2/20" which was Forest Green at Home with Glennon on the scoresheet

Not Ollie is it?

https://gtfc.co.uk/battersby-signs-up/

Definitely Glennon!..wow, 2 proper left backs, 2 proper right backs, what a squad and Glennon is class, as we all know...until he broke his toe playing the ferrous fingered hair bear bunch!

Glennon signs for 2 years

Worst kept secret ever

The best set of full backs we could’ve hoped for. Credit to Paul and the team - very very happy with that - looking at the last lot of that lad from Forest on loan and Hendrie, these 4 all day long.

*note Hendrie was a steady RB, but Efete has the potential to do much better,

I also can’t remember a time where we had such quality at LB

Cracking signing, I’m very happy with that. I think when he was here in 2020, the idea of him signing permanently was generally considered a non-starter as he was too good to be playing League Two football long term.

Now, evidently it hasn’t really happened for him since Covid; it’s been a strange couple of years for the lad. He didn’t go anywhere in 20/21, instead making a few token appearances for Burnley in the cups, then he spent the last half of last season on loan at Barrow where, by all accounts, it appears he hasn’t set the world on fire.

But in terms of ability, last time he was here I’d have had him down as a superior player to Liam Gibson who we had on loan from Newcastle earlier that season, and on a par with his Burnley pal Josh Benson, albeit in a different position. Gibson won promotion with Morecambe in 20/21 and was a regular in League One for them last season, whilst Benson has been playing Championship football for Barnsley.

The pedigree is there, it just needs unlocking. And could you ask for a better manager at this level to help a full-back to do just that, than Paul Hurst?

Great news and a 2 year deal.

Amos and Cropper getting 1 year suggests it will probably be Glennon and Efete as first choices with the other two pushing them for a spot.

Quoted from ginnywings

Great news and a 2 year deal.

Amos and Cropper getting 1 year suggests it will probably be Glennon and Efete as first choices with the other two pushing them for a spot.

Those poor fullbacks of the opposite team then if that’s the case.

Quoted from Poojah

Cracking signing, I’m very happy with that. I think when he was here in 2020, the idea of him signing permanently was generally considered a non-starter as he was too good to be playing League Two football long term.

Now, evidently it hasn’t really happened for him since Covid; it’s been a strange couple of years for the lad. He didn’t go anywhere in 20/21, instead making a few token appearances for Burnley in the cups, then he spent the last half of last season on loan at Barrow where, by all accounts, it appears he hasn’t set the world on fire.

But in terms of ability, last time he was here I’d have had him down as a superior player to Liam Gibson who we had on loan from Newcastle earlier that season, and on a par with his Burnley pal Josh Benson, albeit in a different position. Gibson won promotion with Morecambe in 20/21 and was a regular in League One for them last season, whilst Benson has been playing Championship football for Barnsley.

The pedigree is there, it just needs unlocking. And could you ask for a better manager at this level to help a full-back to do just that, than Paul Hurst?

Yeah I think we need to be careful not to heap pressure on him on the pitch just yet and let him settle in after a tough time at Barrow.

There’s absolutely zero chance he’s regressed like they claim he has and it’s most likely playing in front of excrement crowds with excrement teammates was the cause of his below par spell, especially given his debut for them was apparently brilliant. Sounds like they knocked the confidence out of him quickly.

One area where Hurst certainly isn't shy is in dropping full-backs if he thinks another player will offer a better option, so we should see some keen competition in those two positions. Always good to have players pushing for the starting place. So, we've got 4 experienced centre-backs on the books as well (including Longe-King). I wonder if we'll see any others coming in or going before the start of the season? A lot depends on what happens with Longe King, I expect.

Quoted from Maringer

One area where Hurst certainly isn't shy is in dropping full-backs if he thinks another player will offer a better option, so we should see some keen competition in those two positions. Always good to have players pushing for the starting place. So, we've got 4 experienced centre-backs on the books as well (including Longe-King). I wonder if we'll see any others coming in or going before the start of the season? A lot depends on what happens with Longe King, I expect.

Completely agree, I would also have thought if Longe-King wasn’t staying he would have been released by mutual consent or similar?

Glennon was way better than liam gibson. Him n amos, if they develop, could become danny andrew standard

Liam Gibson was a name I had forgotten - but agree, Glennon was streets above.

Of all the young full backs we have had, Glennon struck me as not dissimilar to Townsend.

Very pleased with how this team is lining up, hopefully we sign that CAM from Mansfield, and a new striker and CM with a few squad players here and there and we are shaping up!!!

I’m really chuffed with the Glennon signing. He was fantastic when we won away at Colchester but non-Vernam players got a little overlooked that night!

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

Really?

Find that hard to believe, but stranger things have happened when teams throw money around.

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

I would be absolutely amazed if that happened

Chesterfield haven't got loads of cash to chuck around anymore - they spunked all their furlough money and insurance payouts on their squad last season.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Chesterfield haven't got loads of cash to chuck around anymore - they spunked all their furlough money and insurance payouts on their squad last season.

Haven't they got 2 brothers that have chucked £1m in?

Not going to entertain this one. For a start, if John McAtee was open to a big money move back down into the National League, he’d be going to Wrexham for a start.

Nothing to see here.

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

He's just worked his butt off to get back into the league, why would he drop down again? Also, there's no chance they're paying anywhere close to enough to buy him.

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

There’s more likelihood of Fabregas donning that lovely new Town shirt that’s John Mc going there (unless a straight swap for Tishminga)

If McAtee signs for Chesterfield this summer I'll shove a crooked spire up my arse. While dressed as Barry Conlon.

This is win win for me as I do this on the first Wednesday of September every year anyway.

There’s rumours and then there is just posting bołlocks for the sake of it.

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

Not a chance

Is the striker/attacking midfielder we are intersted in from Mansfield Danny Johnson? If so this could be a very good signing.

Quoted from Poojah

Not going to entertain this one. For a start, if John McAtee was open to a big money move back down into the National League, he’d be going to Wrexham for a start.

Nothing to see here.

Think Chesterfield are slightly distracted with the staff who have been arrested and rumoured £98k scam being operated at the club !

Quoted from Mrbump53

Think Chesterfield are slightly distracted with the staff who have been arrested and rumoured £98k scam being operated at the club !

Really, what’s that???

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Really, what’s that???

[url]https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/three-men-arrested-on-suspicion-of-theft-at-chesterfield-football-club-3751237[/url]

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

I have some magic beans would you like to trade them for your cow?

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

Who posts crap like this with a little pathetic crying emoji at the end of it? Weird.

Quoted from Mrbump53

Think Chesterfield are slightly distracted with the staff who have been arrested and rumoured £98k scam being operated at the club !

couldnt have happened to a nicer club and their weirdo fanbase

[img]https://puu.sh/J8Lgx/49dfbd1d3e.png[/img]

These websites are so ridiculous

John Nolan signing for tranmere by the looks of it would’ve liked him back here but suppose we have to look elsewhere and I’m sure hurst will be in for others

Quoted from jamesgtfc

[url]https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/football/three-men-arrested-on-suspicion-of-theft-at-chesterfield-football-club-3751237[/url]

Fûck me I thought the GY telegraph site was bad for pop up ads!!!

Quoted from Neilo83

Who posts crap like this with a little pathetic crying emoji at the end of it? Weird.

I’ll go out on a limb and assume you’re looking for a more eloquent answer than ‘the guy that posted it’ 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Anyone heard anything about a centre mid? The one position that stands out as a weak point at the minute after Fox's departure

Quoted from ginnywings

Really?

Find that hard to believe, but stranger things have happened when teams throw money around.

perhaps going to bung us a load of dosh and throw in that Tashiminger for good measure. ;)

Quoted from Mariner93er

Anyone heard anything about a centre mid? The one position that stands out as a weak point at the minute after Fox's departure

Harry Clifton?

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Harry Clifton?

Hurst didn't pick him in central midfield all last season in the National League. Why does everyone seem to think he's suddenly going to play him there in League 2?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Hurst didn't pick him in central midfield all last season in the National League. Why does everyone seem to think he's suddenly going to play him there in League 2?

Probably because, at the moment, we haven’t got any options to compare against. I’m not sure he completely trusts Harry in midfield given how prone to giving away needless, daft free kicks and they’re more dangerous through the middle. Plus, last season at least, he wasn’t as good on the ball as Fox and Holohan, although that element of his game has improved hugely. I’d be surprised if we don’t sign at least two central midfielders, we certainly need a Fox/Hess style player and I suspect a more Raikhy/Coke style holder.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Hurst didn't pick him in central midfield all last season in the National League. Why does everyone seem to think he's suddenly going to play him there in League 2?

I think this stems from the thought a lot of fans have that he isn't really a left winger/left midfielder, so should be playing elsewhere.

I actually thought he did a sterling job on the left; scored 7 goals (should have been more) and set up a few too. I bet he also had the best physical stats in the team and did way more than Sousa on the other side, yet many think we should have kept Sousa on the right.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Clifton keeps that position next season and improves more. He really is under rated in that role. With Glennon getting forward, Harry will be perfect to work with and cover for him when he's on an overlap.

Clifton and holohan isn't a pairing I'd be overly confident with, we definitely need reinforcements

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

You've as many red crosses as a Fenty post.

Stick to baked beans.

Not a rumour, but a player I'd love to see us try to sign is John Bostock, who has recently been released by Donny Rovers.

I think it's highly unlikely though as I heard the reason he's left Donny is because he doesn't want to play League 2 football at his age.

Bostock was very well thought of as a kid at Palace, where he was predicted to be a regular in the England team.

This piece in The Guardian shows how well thought of he was as a school boy.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/31/south-london-crucible-for-black-british-footballers

No doubt Scanz will know him too?

Could he be one of the few remaining pieces of Hurst's promotion jigsaw?

Quoted from Withnail

Not a rumour, but....

Yeah, I've not got a rumour but thought you would like to know I'm going food shopping later. Particularly hoping for some yellow stickered treats in M&S!

Quoted from Withnail

Not a rumour, but a player I'd love to see us try to sign is John Bostock, who has recently been released by Donny Rovers.

I think it's highly unlikely though as I heard the reason he's left Donny is because he doesn't want to play League 2 football at his age.

Bostock was very well thought of as a kid at Palace, where he was predicted to be a regular in the England team.

This piece in The Guardian shows how well thought of he was as a school boy.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/31/south-london-crucible-for-black-british-footballers

No doubt Scanz will know him too?

Could he be one of the few remaining pieces of Hurst's promotion jigsaw?

Completely respect your opinion, but this is the type of player and character that we should be steering away from. More young and hungry types with a smattering of experience for me please.

As it’s 1st July, the Transfermarkt free agents list has updated. Looks fairly slim pickings if I’m honest, but fill yer boots…

League Two
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=GB4&seit=2022&yt0=Show

League One
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=GB3&seit=2022&yt0=Show

Championship
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=GB2&seit=2022&yt0=Show

Jamie Thomas, released by Preston, is a strange one. 25 year old striker, 8 career appearances, 0 goals.

Quoted from Poojah

As it’s 1st July, the Transfermarkt free agents list has updated. Looks fairly slim pickings if I’m honest, but fill yer boots…

League Two
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=GB4&seit=2022&yt0=Show

League One
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=GB3&seit=2022&yt0=Show

Championship
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=alle&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=GB2&seit=2022&yt0=Show

Jamie Thomas, released by Preston, is a strange one. 25 year old striker, 8 career appearances, 0 goals.

Just looked Jamie Thomas up, thankfully it's not the summer of 2020 as I think he would have been signed up by the mad man.

Hurst has done well to keep the majority of the players that got us promoted that he wanted and a brought in a few what seem like decent New signings. I think now comes the harder part, sifting through those left without clubs or trying to find a few decent loans. We are still are few players short and I have no idea who we might have been interested in and lost out or been outbid in player demands as in the case of Fox. Quite pleased the ex players who always get a mention have got clubs and can be dismissed, hopefully a couple will arrive in the next few days and we can have a good settled pre season

Wonder if we’ll see Sam Bell again. Thought he had a decent touch and showed some promise in a short spell, but wasn’t the right fit at the time. Might be handy in one of the 3 attacking roles or as an option off the bench. Then again, Hurst didn’t seem mad keen on him so probably not.

I agree Ska - I thought he looked a good player.

Quoted from Southwark Mariner

Particularly hoping for some yellow stickered treats in M&S!

After watching his interview I reckon Macca will have beaten you to it 😉

I see Kevin Ellison on that list. Still only a sprightly 43.

Quoted from ginnywings

I see Kevin Ellison on that list. Still only a sprightly 43.

I seem to recall we had him on trial during a tour of Sweden one pre-season. 21 years ago.

Just plucked a name off that list so no substance to it but Shaun Whalley might be worth a year. Worked under PH at the Shrews too.

Still a number of good players . None more so IMO than vadaine Oliver. 20 goals 2 seasons ago in all comps for league one gillingham and 11 last year. A big physical target man who clearly can finish too. I think he’d be an upgrade on Taylor and potentially another foil for mcatee/Orsi. Nothing to suggest he couldn’t partner Taylor up top too. I read recently he wanted to move back up north to his roots (Sheffield) and apparently we have tried to sign him before . For me, he’d be a perfect fit and would complete our strike force.

Callum camps, ash Hunter also good attacking options proven at this level. Of course, there’ll also be a plethora of players contracted at clubs who are surplus and also lots of talented under 23s looking at a loan spell. With the core of a very good side that did well last season, with some decent looking signings already through the door, I’m optimistic we can be a force to be reckoned with next year.

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Still a number of good players . None more so IMO than vadaine Oliver. 20 goals 2 seasons ago in all comps for league one gillingham and 11 last year. A big physical target man who clearly can finish too. I think he’d be an upgrade on Taylor and potentially another foil for mcatee/Orsi. Nothing to suggest he couldn’t partner Taylor up top too. I read recently he wanted to move back up north to his roots (Sheffield) and apparently we have tried to sign him before . For me, he’d be a perfect fit and would complete our strike force.

Callum camps, ash Hunter also good attacking options proven at this level. Of course, there’ll also be a plethora of players contracted at clubs who are surplus and also lots of talented under 23s looking at a loan spell. With the core of a very good side that did well last season, with some decent looking signings already through the door, I’m optimistic we can be a force to be reckoned with next year.

Oliver and Camps in particular look like good shouts. They'll both have been earning League One money and may still have interest from clubs at that level, but if we're serious about building on the incredible season just gone then those are the kind of signings we need to be in the running for, and you would imagine our budget capable of.

Yeah, Oliver would be a good signing.

Steady 1 in 4 scoring record but has other attributes. Still only 30 and has been in good scoring form in League 1, so will have suitors.

Manny is still available?

Rodrigues on his way out of Notts County apparently - one year left so virtually a yellow label at M&S

I've said previously but I can't imagine our signings so far are on particularly high wages. When you consider how big our budget is this year compared to previous seasons, you'd presume there's plenty of room for a couple of 'bigger' signings in the Camps mold.

I'd still like us to sign Mani

Quoted from LondonMariner43

I'd still like us to sign Mani

Given his record in the EFL, I wouldn't.

Quoted from LondonMariner43

I'd still like us to sign Mani

That would show a lack of ambition in my opinion.

Quoted from LondonMariner43

I'd still like us to sign Mani

I can't see it now, not now we've signed Orsi. I get what you mean though, he was an integral part of our promotion team and I expected him to be offered a contract for that reason, but goes to show you the ruthless side to Hurst, a more nostalgic manager would have signed him, he obviously feels we could get better.

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Completely respect your opinion, but this is the type of player and character that we should be steering away from. More young and hungry types with a smattering of experience for me please.

Thank you for your civilised and mature response Jim.

I too completely respect your opinion. It would be dull as ditch water on here if everyone agreed all the time.

Just out of interest though when you question Bostock's character are you referring to the long list of his former clubs, or have I missed something? I don't know anything about his character but James Coppinger, head of football operations at Donny, is quoted as saying: “John turned his contract down but I can’t speak highly enough of him as both a person and a player."

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/james-coppinger-on-why-john-bostock-wanted-to-leave-doncaster-rovers-3717861

Anyway, he doesn't want to drop down to L2 so he ain't coming. UTM.

Quoted from Withnail

Thank you for your civilised and mature response Jim.

I too completely respect your opinion. It would be dull as ditch water on here if everyone agreed all the time.

Just out of interest though when you question Bostock's character are you referring to the long list of his former clubs, or have I missed something? I don't know anything about his character but James Coppinger, head of football operations at Donny, is quoted as saying: “John turned his contract down but I can’t speak highly enough of him as both a person and a player."

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/james-coppinger-on-why-john-bostock-wanted-to-leave-doncaster-rovers-3717861

Anyway, he doesn't want to drop down to L2 so he ain't coming. UTM.

You clearly know more than me. There was a lot of reports of his bad attitude when he was younger, a quick Google finds a few, but that was years ago mind. Yeah, it was more the number of clubs he’s had and the fact that he states he doesn’t want to play at this level that did it for me. Plenty of ability by all accounts though.

Proper inbound or resigning?

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In Bound

I reckon this is about the 7th time you've posted this and the first 6 times it was balderdash. Quite an achievement given we've announced something most days over the past week.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I reckon this is about the 7th time you've posted this and the first 6 times it was balderdash. Quite an achievement given we've announced something most days over the past week.

Balderdash ? I've been right 3 times out of 5 . You just want me to be wrong 😅

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

He's right. There will definitely be a new signing before the new season starts.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

He's right. There will definitely be a new signing before the new season starts.

Only one 🥺😉

Quoted from Badger57

Hope it's not true but heard John McAtee to Chesterfield... Sad😥

John mcatee to Lincoln Peterborough or anywhere league 1 would be believable but to drop down to hell I can’t see it myself

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

Try again tomorrow?

I'm going to try the 'It Bites approach'

Today is Monday

I'm thinking you guys aren't taking me seriously 😂

Well it’s 7pm and there’s been no tease or anything.. so likelihood is there’s no in bound today 🤣

Quoted from It Bites

I'm thinking you guys aren't taking me seriously 😂

History tells us not to 😜

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

These are excellent when you read them in a Bullseye style.

Okay so it seems there is an inbound today… foot in mouth based off Twitter 🤣

Looks like he was right 🤷‍♂️

Won't find until Monday though by sounds of it...sh!t me it's gonna be a long weekend now..

That’s brilliant - I really hope he’s just taking wild guesses and getting a few right. Good work ;D

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Won't find until Monday though by sounds of it...sh!t me it's gonna be a long weekend now..

No that’s the Glennon interview which was meant to be uploaded tonight. Signing announced tonight

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

No that’s the Glennon interview which was meant to be uploaded tonight. Signing announced tonight

Literally flicked over to twitter just after I'd posted on here....what a kn@b I am..🤣

Guessing its Scannell, man’s got swagger

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Best tease they've done so far 🤣

Otis Khan to be announced

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Otis Khan to be announced

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Confirmed! Welcome Otis.

Quoted from mariner91

Try again tomorrow?

Or don't as you were right. Good work.

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I'd still like us to sign Mani

Signed for Halifax I hear.

Quoted from ginnywings

Signed for Halifax I hear.

[tweet]1542931285634535426[/tweet]

Yep :o

Does otis Khan say he did a light session with some of the other lads that have signed today, maybe a couple of more on the way.

Quoted from zorro_is_a_Mariner

Does otis Khan say he did a light session with some of the other lads that have signed today, maybe a couple of more on the way.

I thought he said that.

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Quoted from zorro_is_a_Mariner

Does otis Khan say he did a light session with some of the other lads that have signed today, maybe a couple of more on the way.

Yep, I picked up on that line too, surprised it wasn't edited out tbh.

He may have meant players that have already signed and been announced but it wouldn't surprise me if we are staggering the announcements and there are more to come on Monday.

Any new faces will quickly be spotted during training.

It was explained that Glennon’s interview was filmed today because he and other signings were due in today for testing. To me it read as if it was the new signings from the last couple of weeks rather than today.

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Yep :o

Pleased he’s got a deal at a decent club. He might have not played many minutes for this club, but he’s an all time cult hero for me.

Quoted from Poojah

Pleased he’s got a deal at a decent club. He might have not played many minutes for this club, but he’s an all time cult hero for me.

"I just fooking threw myself at it" will live long in the memory.

Quoted from ginnywings

Signed for Halifax I hear.

I wish him well. His contribution to the playoffs was unforgettable. He gave it everything.

So with the arrival of Khan what do we think we still need?

I think we need a replacement for Fox in the middle of the park, and another experienced striker. I’d be happy with that.

Quoted from RonMariner

So with the arrival of Khan what do we think we still need?

I think we need a replacement for Fox in the middle of the park, and another experienced striker. I’d be happy with that.

another keeper, centre half, centre mid and centre forward

Quoted from RonMariner

So with the arrival of Khan what do we think we still need?

I think we need a replacement for Fox in the middle of the park, and another experienced striker. I’d be happy with that.

Think we need more in midfield than that.
A replacement for Fox gives us whoever that is, and Holohan. With Clifton (who may not be in PJ'S thoughts for that role in the 4231) and Khouri (well thought of but still relatively untried) also in the mix.

I'd think we'll be looking for 2 central midfielders.

Plus another attacking player who can play in the 3 position behind the striker (we have Wearne, Khan, McAtee, Maguire-Drew and possibly Clifton at the moment - 5 players and we'd probably want 2 players for each position), so maybe someone who can play the McAtee role.

And I've no idea what Orsi is going to be like so it may be that another striker could come in.

Also we've not heard anything about Longe-King but if he moves on he'll need replacing unless one of the 1st year Pro's (Bramwell) is so highly thought of that he'd be trusted to play early on if needed.

Quoted from forza ivano

another keeper, centre half, centre mid and centre forward

2 centre mids for me and another striker. Goalie or goalie coach who can still play if needed.

Maybe a utility type player to plug gaps as necessary

Quoted from RonMariner

So with the arrival of Khan what do we think we still need?

I think we need a replacement for Fox in the middle of the park, and another experienced striker. I’d be happy with that.

At least two, but probably three central midfielders for me. We've lost Fox, Coke, Raikhy, J Jones and Burgess since the playoffs. You can say all you like about some of those not being up to it but we are seriously short in terms of numbers in there, haven't signed one replacement yet.

We also need a reserve keeper, another centre-half (assuming DLK moves back down south), another wide player and a striker.

Quoted from Mariner_09

At least two, but probably three central midfielders for me. We've lost Fox, Coke, Raikhy, J Jones and Burgess since the playoffs. You can say all you like about some of those not being up to it but we are seriously short in terms of numbers in there, haven't signed one replacement yet.

We also need a reserve keeper, another centre-half (assuming DLK moves back down south), another wide player and a striker.

This was my thinking too. Certainly need 2 more cm's, a cb to replace Longe-King (Can't see him staying), a keeper and a striker. I think with the versatility of the front line, we could maybe get away with not needing another wide player.

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

Well done . Too many on here jump on anyone when they post anything because they are not in the popular clic

Quoted from RonMariner

So with the arrival of Khan what do we think we still need?

I think we need a replacement for Fox in the middle of the park, and another experienced striker. I’d be happy with that.

I waited all last season for a No9, still waiting. A decent striker may cost money but the support the club now has, has given them the income.

Quoted from BenBB

[tweet]1542933895456428038[/tweet]

Best tease they've done so far 🤣

"I'll be back, but when"

Any ideas?

Tenuous link, I’ll be back-Arnie- Steve Arnold? Goalkeeper from Southend?

Ska’s just said, it was Khan

We very rarely get strikers in quickly, in fact if we’re honest it took us until Feb last season to have enough adequate back ups in that department so I’m not expecting much just yet.

I think we need 2 cms realistically and I’d like us to avoid the short term loan market if we can, I think in hindsight that derailed a potential title charge last season by losing them in Jan. No doubt we’ll get a few in but I’d like them to be season long loans.

I think one area where Hurst has struggled in the past is to get a striker early enough in the season. Might well be due to the constraints which he faced under the previous regime but we certainly need at least one more striker pretty soon. It sounds as though Khan can play centrally or wide in midfield so, if Scannell stays, that might be it for wide midfielders, unless we're looking to take a youngster on loan from a higher division club?

In fact, loan players are more likely to come in closer to the start of the season as their respective club managers decide how their squads are shaping up, who can stay to compete for a place and who can go out.

Could hunt come back as one of those midfielders? Awesome for us but had an absolutely horrible time at Oldham.

Isn't Sam Winnall still without a club? Heard his name mentioned before but I wonder if we're still in for him.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Isn't Sam Winnall still without a club? Heard his name mentioned before but I wonder if we're still in for him.

Was told that that ship had sailed

We struggled without one last season... Oh wait hang on, we got promoted 🎉

TBH I'd like to see Evan Khouri get plenty of game time to see if he will make the grade, so personally I think just one CM would be adequate to add to Holohan, Clifton and Khouri.

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

TBH I'd like to see Evan Khouri get plenty of game time to see if he will make the grade, so personally I think just one CM would be adequate to add to Holohan, Clifton and Khouri.

We’ve lost Fox, Coke, Burgess, Raikhy and Joey Jones from central midfield. I’d be amazed and concerned if we only saw one CM brought in before Orient.

Quoted from jimgtfc

We’ve lost Fox, Coke, Burgess, Raikhy and Joey Jones from central midfield. I’d be amazed and concerned if we only saw one CM brought in before Orient.

Yeah, but we had too many midfielders last season. They kept either going back to their clubs, getting injured, or weren't good enough.

PH kept bringing them in, but it took an age to get a settled pairing and just in time. Burgess and Coke were never getting a deal. Jones and Raikhy weren't ours.

I do think we need at least one, probably two, but we don't yet know what PH has in mind formation wise.

Quoted from ginnywings

Yeah, but we had too many midfielders last season. They kept either going back to their clubs, getting injured, or weren't good enough.

PH kept bringing them in, but it took an age to get a settled pairing and just in time. Burgess and Coke were never getting a deal. Jones and Raikhy weren't ours.

I do think we need at least one, probably two, but we don't yet know what PH has in mind formation wise.

Yeah I agree, too many and a couple of them weren’t good enough. I more meant numbers wise than individuals. I’m pretty sure PH will want more than Holohan, Clifton and one more as the only senior central midfielders at the club. Baring in mind as well Clifton didn’t play many games in the middle and Khouri has looked very raw whenever I’ve seen him.

In terms of who, I’ve not seen many names linked except Camps and maybe a return for Alex Hunt, but I’m sure the gaffer will have a few names up his sleeve.

Burgess, Jones Raikhy and Coke all added up to about 0.5 of a midfielder last season. I'd expect Holohan and A.New to take the two starting slots, depending on where Clifton plays thats three in rotation, with Khouri fourth choice on the bench.

No real pressure this season so why not give Khouri plenty of game time, this is an ideal season to blood him.

I'd be happy with 1 more perminant signing (ideally cm) then 2-3 long/short term loans. PH usually does well with bringing in the right players on loan aswell.

Excited for the future of GTFC.

Still lots of opportunity to bring in top tier loanees to fill the gaps. Still think Maher is a top top signing possible future captain material

Quoted from jimgtfc

We’ve lost Fox, Coke, Burgess, Raikhy and Joey Jones from central midfield. I’d be amazed and concerned if we only saw one CM brought in before Orient.

Agree totally. We need 2. If Rhaiky or Hunt was one of them that would be ok by me.

John Marquis would be a statement of intent.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

John Marquis would be a statement of intent.

He’s nothing special, judging by the games I saw him play for The Imps last season …. a shadow of the player at Doncaster a few seasons back, and positively loathed by Pompey fans.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

John Marquis would be a statement of intent.

Dom Telford would have been a serious statement but that chance has flown now

Mani goes to Halifax. 🙄

I thought Callum Jones looked decent until he got injured and wouldn't be disappointed if we got him on a season loan.

Hurst has said before that he prefers to have his own players rather than loans due to recalls etc

Quoted from GtfcGarner

John Marquis would be a statement of intent.

A marquis signing if you will …. A good player & I imagine living local but a central midfielder or two would be my priority if I were Hurst.

I thought It Bites said incoming earlier today or was that a delay on Khan?

Quoted from Meza

I thought It Bites said incoming earlier today or was that a delay on Khan?

That's was yesterday and I was spot on . 👌😊

‘Kin ell..what a scoop that was..you’ll be saying Monday follows Sunday next..🙄

Quoted from marinerjase

‘Kin ell..what a scoop that was..you’ll be saying Monday follows Sunday next..🙄

And Wrestling is fake

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Burgess, Jones Raikhy and Coke all added up to about 0.5 of a midfielder last season. I'd expect Holohan and A.New to take the two starting slots, depending on where Clifton plays thats three in rotation, with Khouri fourth choice on the bench.

No real pressure this season so why not give Khouri plenty of game time, this is an ideal season to blood him.

I certainly don't want to see this season written off as an experimental 'no pressure' season before we've even started!

Definitely think we need at least 2 more CM incoming. I think holohan (like JMD) was signed with a view to a real crack at NL promotion next year rather than expecting them to be 1st choice team members in league 2 to be honest.

Quoted from toontown

I certainly don't want to see this season written off as an experimental 'no pressure' season before we've even started!

Definitely think we need at least 2 more CM incoming. I think holohan (like JMD) was signed with a view to a real crack at NL promotion next year rather than expecting them to be 1st choice team members in league 2 to be honest.

You could be right there. Once Hartlepool got promoted to League 2, with Holohan a mainstay, he found himself out of the side on a regular basis and they let him go to us.

I said something along the lines of this myself a while back. When you move up a league, the ever presents from the successful season become the squad players and the squad players get moved on.

Some will make the transition to a higher level, but some inevitably won't.

Quoted from ginnywings

You could be right there. Once Hartlepool got promoted to League 2, with Holohan a mainstay, he found himself out of the side on a regular basis and they let him go to us.

I said something along the lines of this myself a while back. When you move up a league, the ever presents from the successful season become the squad players and the squad players get moved on.

Some will make the transition to a higher level, but some inevitably won't.

Yeah if you read their forum when he joined us they were mostly saying great for NL but not for L2 or some saying they were still happy with him at least as a squad player.

Quoted from ginnywings

You could be right there. Once Hartlepool got promoted to League 2, with Holohan a mainstay, he found himself out of the side on a regular basis and they let him go to us.

I said something along the lines of this myself a while back. When you move up a league, the ever presents from the successful season become the squad players and the squad players get moved on.

Some will make the transition to a higher level, but some inevitably won't.

Agreed Ginny. We wondered on the way back from the playoff final if Holohan would even get a new deal if he wasn’t under contract. We thought he would be on balance but it certainly indicates he’s unlikely to be a mainstay in L2. I’ve mentioned this loads in other posts but will reaffirm it here, if we are serious about capitalising on this momentum, good will and feel good factor, then we need better than Holohan as a L2 starter. A bit like Cropper, especially with five subs, he strikes me as a fantastic option to bring on from the bench if you need a goal or fancy punching an away winner, or even if you want to get an extra body in midfield late on in games. He’ll be a more than able backup and will do a good job when he plays if players ahead of him get injured or suspended. I still expect us to sign two starting midfielders before the Orient game and the fact we haven’t I think indicates Hursty is holding out for some of his top options, who will no doubt not be short of options.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Agreed Ginny. We wondered on the way back from the playoff final if Holohan would even get a new deal if he wasn’t under contract. We thought he would be on balance but it certainly indicates he’s unlikely to be a mainstay in L2. I’ve mentioned this loads in other posts but will reaffirm it here, if we are serious about capitalising on this momentum, good will and feel good factor, then we need better than Holohan as a L2 starter. A bit like Cropper, especially with five subs, he strikes me as a fantastic option to bring on from the bench if you need a goal or fancy punching an away winner, or even if you want to get an extra body in midfield late on in games. He’ll be a more than able backup and will do a good job when he plays if players ahead of him get injured or suspended. I still expect us to sign two starting midfielders before the Orient game and the fact we haven’t I think indicates Hursty is holding out for some of his top options, who will no doubt not be short of options.

Yeah the new 5 from 7 subs rule really changes things in so many ways. In the past Hurst has been Conservative on subs and has commented about not making changes early in case of needing to make more due to injury etc. The new rules mean he can feel freer to make tactical changes earlier so he may change in that respect.

it'd be a really interesting question to ask him , because I'd bet my bottom dollar he will have studied it extensively. Plus there is the rules on young/home grown players. How does it affect his transfer policy, his make up of the overall squad, his attitude to substitutions, his management of the squad etc etc

Quoted from Mariner_09

Agreed Ginny. We wondered on the way back from the playoff final if Holohan would even get a new deal if he wasn’t under contract. We thought he would be on balance but it certainly indicates he’s unlikely to be a mainstay in L2. I’ve mentioned this loads in other posts but will reaffirm it here, if we are serious about capitalising on this momentum, good will and feel good factor, then we need better than Holohan as a L2 starter. A bit like Cropper, especially with five subs, he strikes me as a fantastic option to bring on from the bench if you need a goal or fancy punching an away winner, or even if you want to get an extra body in midfield late on in games. He’ll be a more than able backup and will do a good job when he plays if players ahead of him get injured or suspended. I still expect us to sign two starting midfielders before the Orient game and the fact we haven’t I think indicates Hursty is holding out for some of his top options, who will no doubt not be short of options.

I think there's a bit of a misplaced expectation for Holohan to replicate his gung ho attacking Chesterfield performance and score worldies every other week when in actual fact his role in the side was fairly similar to Fox's. I don't think he necessarily gets the credit he deserves breaking up play and pressing. He can be a bit wasteful at times and at key moments in passages of play but workrate wise, aggression, etc. I think he's been great personally.

Your “in bound” post gone AWOL there, @It Bites. Do tell…

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Quoted from Poojah

Your “in bound” post gone AWOL there, @It Bites. Do tell…

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Hardly getting an announcement at 9pm on a Sunday night!..that would be stretching the twilight zone a bit too far ..

Nothing to tell , I got a bit trigger happy . We'll see what tomorrow brings

Quoted from Son of Cod

I think there's a bit of a misplaced expectation for Holohan to replicate his gung ho attacking Chesterfield performance and score worldies every other week when in actual fact his role in the side was fairly similar to Fox's. I don't think he necessarily gets the credit he deserves breaking up play and pressing. He can be a bit wasteful at times and at key moments in passages of play but workrate wise, aggression, etc. I think he's been great personally.

Unbelievable how some on here can take this guy from hero to zero before a ball has been kicked this season - leave it to PH. He knows stuff.

Quoted from It Bites

Nothing to tell , I got a bit trigger happy . We'll see what tomorrow brings

Mikael Mandaron, who hurst tried to sign from Sunderland in his first spell, has become a free agent.

Vadine Oliver still not signed with a club, left Gillingham because he wants to move back up North, Sheffield based. Scored 10 in a relegated league 1 side last season. Fit's the target man role.

Vadaine Oliver would be a cracking signing on paper, plenty of experience and still only 30. Scored 11 in all comps last year for league one gillingham and 20 the season before! A big physical centre forward who could partner any of mcatee, Orsi or Taylor. He’d be the final piece of the jigsaw up top and give us excellent options. You’d think we’d be an attractive option for us in terms of level, location and I’d like to think we’d offer decent terms compared to some of his previous clubs, (York, gillingham, morecambe) so finances you’d think, shouldn’t be an issue. You just never know how signings will turn out but on paper, he would fit the bill perfectly.

As someone has also suggested, mikael mandron wouldn’t be a bad shout either, offers similar physical attributes to Oliver, and has hit double figures in 3 seasons out of the last 6 seasons between leagues one and national league.

Happy with what we have already in mcatee and Taylor, let’s hope Orsi can be a gem too, and with 1 more added, it could potentially be a very strong frontline regardless of pairings.

Mandron would be a brilliant signing, but having been Crewe’s top scorer the last two seasons in League One, he turned down a new deal in the hope of not having to drop down a division.

Would be a coup, albeit an unlikely one.

Oliver was mentioned the other day. He would be a great signing.

So.... who has binoculars watching training ?

Any strange car registrations, any unknown faces, any noisy windswept interviews taking place today???

It Bites needs some incoming ??

Quoted from acko338

So.... who has binoculars watching training ?

Any strange car registrations, any unknown faces, any noisy windswept interviews taking place today???

It Bites needs some incoming ??

Wasn't there someone who lives / lived in one of the houses next to BP who gave us info haha.

Ravel Morrison has left Derby. Heard his objective is to play for every club in Europe and he only has 4 left!!

Just been informed Steve Croudson is at cheapside...

Was Vadaine Oliver at Lincoln during our days in the Conference? Remember him standing out like a sore thumb in a poor Lincoln side.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Just been informed Steve Croudson is at cheapside...

One would assume he is our new goalkeeping coach then?

Quoted from Davec

One would assume he is our new goalkeeping coach then?

Certainly looks that way Dave, obviously I can't confirm if that is the case, mates just text me to say he's seen Steve on the training ground but no more details than that tbh

Chaos33 is your man to ask re Croudson

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Certainly looks that way Dave, obviously I can't confirm if that is the case, mates just text me to say he's seen Steve on the training ground but no more details than that tbh

i was told a week or so ago that he was coming back, so that looks to be confirmation

I was told last week he was coming back, so looks to be true. Cracking appointment

100% Truth regarding Steve Croudson at Cheapside today

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Was Vadaine Oliver at Lincoln during our days in the Conference? Remember him standing out like a sore thumb in a poor Lincoln side.

Yeah he sure was and he should have been sent off very early in one of the Boxing Day fixtures at the Bank for a foul I think on Aswad Thomas or whoever was left back that day.

Quoted from FishySmithy

100% Truth regarding Steve Croudson at Cheapside today

Can we have that on the Bentley scale please?

I was told he was coming back two weeks ago.

Any ideas as to why he is coming back, all not good at Lincoln atm.

Quoted from forza ivano

i was told a week or so ago that he was coming back, so that looks to be confirmation

Yup just checked the Wiki page updated today - Croudson is listed as our GK coach.

I didn't see him warming up the keepers in Lincoln's friendly at Gainsborough on Saturday...

Quoted from Meza

Any ideas as to why he is coming back, all not good at Lincoln atm.

Possible that Mark Kennedy may want his own GK coach in as he's just taken over there

Quoted from Mariner16

Possible that Mark Kennedy may want his own GK coach in as he's just taken over there

Possible, but incorrect.

Quoted from chaos33

Possible, but incorrect.

Pray tell chaos...mind you, does it matter, cracking signing for us getting Croudson in as a GK coach..

A couple of names speculatively mentioned on this thread, John Marquis and Callum Camps have new clubs. Bristol Rovers and Stockport respectively.

Some excellent midfielders dropping down into League Two this season. Richie Smallwood, George Moncur, and now Camps. Probably the one and only area I’m feeling slightly anxious about at the minute.

Stockport making sure they get promotion by signing all available players…

Quoted from Poojah

A couple of names speculatively mentioned on this thread, John Marquis and Callum Camps have new clubs. Bristol Rovers and Stockport respectively.

Some excellent midfielders dropping down into League Two this season. Richie Smallwood, George Moncur, and now Camps. Probably the one and only area I’m feeling slightly anxious about at the minute.

Camps would have been a great signing but he’s from the Manchester area and only played for Rochdale and Fleetwood so he was never likely. Midfield remains a major concern to me.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Stockport making sure they get promotion by signing all available players…

I believe Wrexham did something similar.

Quoted from Poojah

A couple of names speculatively mentioned on this thread, John Marquis and Callum Camps have new clubs. Bristol Rovers and Stockport respectively.

Some excellent midfielders dropping down into League Two this season. Richie Smallwood, George Moncur, and now Camps. Probably the one and only area I’m feeling slightly anxious about at the minute.

Me too. We definitely need a replacement for Fox and probably one other too. Perhaps Hurst will bring in loanees in this area?

Quoted from DB

I believe Wrexham did something similar.

Anyone know how many players Stockport have on their books, feels as though they must have at least 30?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Camps would have been a great signing but he’s from the Manchester area and only played for Rochdale and Fleetwood so he was never likely. Midfield remains a major concern to me.

Not too much out there now looking at the list of available fee agents. Lewis MacLeod is an interesting one; 28 years old, formerly of Rangers, Brentford and Wigan but was at Plymouth last season. Scottish, so perhaps a move further up north might suit him?

Jamie Hanson’s another interesting one in the defensive mould. Good pedigree having come through the ranks and broken into the first team at Derby. Recently released by Oxford.

Callum Cooke, released by Bradford, was also mentioned on here the other day, but he’s possibly more of an attacking force than what’s needed to sit in a midfield three.

Either way, there’s not a surplus of decent midfielders looking for a club right now. All that said, as the signings of Orsi and Khan illustrate, new signings don’t have to be free agents.

Quoted from Poojah

Not too much out there now looking at the list of available fee agents. Lewis MacLeod is an interesting one; 28 years old, formerly of Rangers, Brentford and Wigan but was at Plymouth last season. Scottish, so perhaps a move further up north might suit him?

Jamie Hanson’s another interesting one in the defensive mould. Good pedigree having come through the ranks and broken into the first team at Derby. Recently released by Oxford.

Callum Cooke, released by Bradford, was also mentioned on here the other day, but he’s possibly more of an attacking force than what’s needed to sit in a midfield three.

Either way, there’s not a surplus of decent midfielders looking for a club right now. All that said, as the signings of Orsi and Khan illustrate, new signings don’t have to be free agents.

Can’t help but think we’re going to end up with loans. Holohan, Clifton and Khouri will not be sufficient.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Can’t help but think we’re going to end up with loans. Holohan, Clifton and Khouri will not be sufficient.

Nothing wrong with loans, per se, but even if we were to pick up a talented youngster or two you’re going to want some additional experience in there.

Quoted from RonMariner

Me too. We definitely need a replacement for Fox and probably one other too. Perhaps Hurst will bring in loanees in this area?

I suspect you are right.

The two hardest positions to recruit are CM and forwards.

Despite the strong season ticket sales, I don’t expect us to be splurging six figure transfer fees or throwing wages around like Monty Brewster.

I know Hurst, Stockwood & Pettit are trying to shift away from a reliance on the loan market but with these two key positions it’s a lot easier to loan a young player from higher up the leagues or someone out of favour from the Championship or L1.

In most cases we would have to pay large fees or wages to attract permanent signings in these two positions. I just don’t see that happening and I understand why.

I bored you all last season (and beyond!) with my bleating on about the lack of available strikers but the problem is getting worse.

For instance, I read an article in The Independent last week that Norwich City were so concerned about the dearth of strikers that they insisted all of their youth and schoolboy teams played 4-4-2. Apparently they gave up after a year because a two striker system just can’t work at the moment. It leads to too many defensive overloads.

These things are all cyclical of course but look at the top strikers in the NL. Tshimanga is crocked and if he returns to form, we probably won’t be able to afford his fees or wages, particularly with his injury. It would be too much of a risk.

Look at how much Wrexham spent / continue to spend on Palmer and Mullin. I wouldn’t want us to match that.

Then you’ve got Dallas and Sbarra, who may be upgrades on what we have but they can’t play the ‘Taylor role’.

Until we see who Hurst can bring in on loan, it’s difficult to judge whether we are top 7 material or 10th-20th, which is where I predict we currently are.

Yep, if you think a Benson-type player would make a great loannee. I think we'll need somebody physically capable as opposed to a Hunt-style player who is expected to run the game from midfield. Not that I'd accept anybody who could just run around a lot, but I have a feeling that the plan is to be solid in the centre and get the ball to the more skilful forwards/wide players and let them do the damage. Didn't work too badly when we had Cunnungton and Cockerill back in the day. Those two would probably be sent off twice a game in the modern era for what were fair tackles back then!

I’m completely zen about the whole situation. I trust Hurst in the transfer market more than probably any other manager that’s been in the dugout since I started watching town.

Jay Matete - absolute unknown in Fleetwood reserves. Half a season with us & he’s in Fleetwood’s first team, Sunderland by Jan and the Championship by June.

Ben Fox - another relative unknown to anyone bar Hurst & Doig, spent most of his career on the treatment table. Signed on a free, plays the back end of the season like Zidane and now he’s on megabucks at Northampton.

Think we’re probably the healthiest we’ve been going into pre-season than any time in the last 15-20 years. Kept the core of a decent squad, seem to have made some good additions and improved on those who have gone. The season ticket sales can only have greatly strengthened Hurst’s hand - if his projected budget was based on the same 3300 STs then he’s looking at an increase of nearly 60% if we finish on 5200.

Just under 4 weeks until KO, sure it’ll be fine.

Quoted from ska face

I’m completely zen about the whole situation. I trust Hurst in the transfer market more than probably any other manager that’s been in the dugout since I started watching town.

Jay Matete - absolute unknown in Fleetwood reserves. Half a season with us & he’s in Fleetwood’s first team, Sunderland by Jan and the Championship by June.

Ben Fox - another relative unknown to anyone bar Hurst & Doig, spent most of his career on the treatment table. Signed on a free, plays the back end of the season like Zidane and now he’s on megabucks at Northampton.

Think we’re probably the healthiest we’ve been going into pre-season than any time in the last 15-20 years. Kept the core of a decent squad, seem to have made some good additions and improved on those who have gone. The season ticket sales can only have greatly strengthened Hurst’s hand - if his projected budget was based on the same 3300 STs then he’s looking at an increase of nearly 60% if we finish on 5200.

Just under 4 weeks until KO, sure it’ll be fine.

Also Disley who was a mainstay for 5 of his 6 years here. Craig Clay is a controversial one but he was industrious and did the job asked of him.

And of course Jon Nolan...

Clay was extremely under rated imo

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I suspect you are right.

The two hardest positions to recruit are CM and forwards.

Despite the strong season ticket sales, I don’t expect us to be splurging six figure transfer fees or throwing wages around like Monty Brewster.

I know Hurst, Stockwood & Pettit are trying to shift away from a reliance on the loan market but with these two key positions it’s a lot easier to loan a young player from higher up the leagues or someone out of favour from the Championship or L1.

In most cases we would have to pay large fees or wages to attract permanent signings in these two positions. I just don’t see that happening and I understand why.

I bored you all last season (and beyond!) with my bleating on about the lack of available strikers but the problem is getting worse.

For instance, I read an article in The Independent last week that Norwich City were so concerned about the dearth of strikers that they insisted all of their youth and schoolboy teams played 4-4-2. Apparently they gave up after a year because a two striker system just can’t work at the moment. It leads to too many defensive overloads.

These things are all cyclical of course but look at the top strikers in the NL. Tshimanga is crocked and if he returns to form, we probably won’t be able to afford his fees or wages, particularly with his injury. It would be too much of a risk.

Look at how much Wrexham spent / continue to spend on Palmer and Mullin. I wouldn’t want us to match that.

Then you’ve got Dallas and Sbarra, who may be upgrades on what we have but they can’t play the ‘Taylor role’.

Until we see who Hurst can bring in on loan, it’s difficult to judge whether we are top 7 material or 10th-20th, which is where I predict we currently are.

As much as I go on about a No9 you may be right. Quality strikers cost the earth so one on loan may be a cheaper option. We'll have to wait and see.

How many good players has Hurst signed that we new nothing about? A fair few and I’d be confident he’ll do it again.

If it’s a loan it’s a loan, again we’d like to move away from relying on loans, well I’d be more than happy with “quality versus quantity” as a start to a change in strategy.

All last season many looked enviously on who was signing for who and who was spending what, Many teams appeared to buy big but only one of the big spenders got promoted.

Season ticket sales have given the manager a bigger budget, don’t expect it all to be utilised in this calendar year.

Quoted from Meza

Any ideas as to why he is coming back, all not good at Lincoln atm.

Details all in good time this week mate, but you can take it from me that we want him and he wants to. Not because Lincoln want to move him on. Sure he’ll elaborate when he can.

Quoted from chaos33

Details all in good time this week mate, but you can take it from me that we want him and he wants to. Not because Lincoln want to move him on. Sure he’ll elaborate when he can.

No worries Chaos. I'm delighted to have Steve back.

Quoted from Meza

No worries Chaos. I'm delighted to have Steve back.

McKeown played his best football under him and Warrington. He was never the same after.

Is Warrington still at Lincoln.

Quoted from Meza

Is Warrington still at Lincoln.

No, he's First Team Keeper coach at Rotherham.

Luke James released by barrow for some bizarre reason.
Although probably end up at Hartlepool for the 23rd time

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Luke James released by barrow for some bizarre reason.
Although probably end up at Hartlepool for the 23rd time

At York

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

Anyone know how many players Stockport have on their books, feels as though they must have at least 30?

25 at the moment, all senior players though. It's not 25 filled out with youth players:

Goalkeepers: Hinchliffe, Jaros
Centre Backs: Horsfall, Palmer, Johnson, Lewis, Keane
Right Backs: Southam-Hales, Minihan
Left Backs: Rydel, Kitching
Central Midfield: Croasdale, Collar, Sarcevic, Camps, Lemonheigh-Evans, Wright
Wide/Attacking Midfielders: Crankshaw, Hippolyte, Newby, Whitfield
Strikers: Madden, Wootton, Quigley, Jennings

This thread is quite for useful for anyone wanting updates/opinions on most of the sides in the division as and when they do their business:
https://www.thefootballforum.net/threads/players-ins-outs.23776/page-10

Quoted from Son of Cod

25 at the moment, all senior players though. It's not 25 filled out with youth players:

Goalkeepers: Hinchliffe, Jaros
Centre Backs: Horsfall, Palmer, Johnson, Lewis, Keane
Right Backs: Southam-Hales, Minihan
Left Backs: Rydel, Kitching
Central Midfield: Croasdale, Collar, Sarcevic, Camps, Lemonheigh-Evans, Wright
Wide/Attacking Midfielders: Crankshaw, Hippolyte, Newby, Whitfield
Strikers: Madden, Wootton, Quigley, Jennings

This thread is quite for useful for anyone wanting updates/opinions on most of the sides in the division as and when they do their business:
https://www.thefootballforum.net/threads/players-ins-outs.23776/page-10

They are really going for domination in centre mid aren't they...

Their strikers ain’t bad either.

Can't play them all at once, hopefully they wont jell.

Quoted from Son of Cod

25 at the moment, all senior players though. It's not 25 filled out with youth players:

Goalkeepers: Hinchliffe, Jaros
Centre Backs: Horsfall, Palmer, Johnson, Lewis, Keane
Right Backs: Southam-Hales, Minihan
Left Backs: Rydel, Kitching
Central Midfield: Croasdale, Collar, Sarcevic, Camps, Lemonheigh-Evans, Wright
Wide/Attacking Midfielders: Crankshaw, Hippolyte, Newby, Whitfield
Strikers: Madden, Wootton, Quigley, Jennings

This thread is quite for useful for anyone wanting updates/opinions on most of the sides in the division as and when they do their business:
https://www.thefootballforum.net/threads/players-ins-outs.23776/page-10

You can only register 22 players over the age of 21 and excluding goalkeepers though so they might have to do some wheeling and dealing.

And how many from the youth setup, or does it just mean u21?

Quoted from Meza

And how many from the youth setup, or does it just mean u21?

One player in the matchday 18 has to have come through your academy. In theory you can have a squad of 50 but only 22 of those can be outfield players over the age of 21. I think we have room for 5 or 6 signings over the age of 21 yet.

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

You’re not shooting your load early again, are you? ;)

Quoted from Poojah

You’re not shooting your load early again, are you? ;)

Wouldn't be the first time 😂

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

*slowly unsheaths vuvuzela*

Apparently "new goalkeeping coach" is about to be announced...nearly the worse kept secret since Glennon!!..

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

We already know. JT tweeted that an announcement is imminent.

Does It Bites get a point if the In Bound is a GK coach?

Quoted from Poojah

You’re not shooting your load early again, are you? ;)

Well we went early in the final - at least 10 minutes before the end, a very stressful period, albeit with Max's cramp taking at least a minute of that. I prefer the 96's and 119's...

A stopped clock is correct twice a day.

Quoted from RonMariner

A stopped clock is correct twice a day.

You need working on boy

And some posters rather less often….

Quoted from ska face

*slowly unsheaths vuvuzela*

Is that your what3words address?

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

As Sinead O’Conner once said, it’s been 7 hours and 15 days…

Yep, the In Bound window on this one has elapsed. Take some points off him.

Quoted from moss_side_mariner

Is that your what3words address?

It’s generally how I initiate foreplay.

Anyway, It Bites has fúcked it. It Sucks more like, amirightlads?

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

Tomorrow is going to be Monday - I'm going to be right eventually

At least give me to close of play

Quoted from Poojah

As Sinead O’Conner once said, it’s been 7 hours and 15 days…

Never heard of her, can she play Centre Midfield?

Quoted from Mikey_345

Never heard of her, can she play Centre Midfield?

Kind of looks a bit like Tommy Wright. Can’t be any worse at football.

[img]https://static.onecms.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/05/26/Sinead-o-connor-2.jpg[/img]

Maybe something or nothing, Centre midfielder from Wimbledon just announced his departure and liked by David Longe King
https://twitter.com/anthartigan/status/1544313423927844870?s=21&t=91zwRPWY1_33VHF3TuEYow

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Maybe something or nothing, Centre midfielder from Wimbledon just announced his departure and liked by David Longe King
https://twitter.com/anthartigan/status/1544313423927844870?s=21&t=91zwRPWY1_33VHF3TuEYow

He was on loan at Newport when DLK was there I think, or so google tells me anyway ;D

Quoted from Poojah

Kind of looks a bit like Tommy Wright. Can’t be any worse at football.

[img]https://static.onecms.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2021/05/26/Sinead-o-connor-2.jpg[/img]

In fairness there aren't many that could be...

Quoted from It Bites

At least give me to close of play

If you're willing to tell us who is coming in then I would be okay with you not being docked any points.

A new waitress has started in McMenemys, so It Bites is spot on, well done matey 😜

Quoted from Son of Cod

If you're willing to tell us who is coming in then I would be okay with you not being docked any points.

Actually in fairness if he could predict if its a signing or Croudson that'd be fine. Cause at the minute it looks like just repeating what JT said on Twitter. Presumably you'd know that much??

Jean Belehouan currently training with Town. Young defender last at Sheffield United.

Quoted from Surrey97

Jean Belehouan currently training with Town. Young defender last at Sheffield United.

A left sided defender who was on a season-long loan at the Shay from Premier League Sheffield United. Belehouan is part of the Blades U23’s and has previously played in the Manchester United academy. The 20-year-old who has French citizenship left Manchester United in 2017 to join Sheffield United.

Could be signing to boost our U23 Squad

Quoted from It Bites

At least give me to close of play

Massive day of news as Boris and It Bites both get cancelled within about 15 minutes of each other.

I'm as shocked as you all 😯

Quoted from It Bites

I'm as shocked as you all 😯

No one is shocked, mate.

Quoted from It Bites

In Bound

Egg Bound

Quoted from Poojah

No one is shocked, mate.

😂😂

Quoted from It Bites

I'm as shocked as you all 😯

We ain’t shocked fella

Quoted from barrattstandman

Could be signing to boost our U23 Squad

He is a A tall, athletic centre-back, so he could be ideal 4th centre-back as won't expect game time

Quoted from barrattstandman

Could be signing to boost our U23 Squad

We don't have an u23 squad

Quoted from Surrey97

Jean Belehouan currently training with Town. Young defender last at Sheffield United.

One Halifax fan said:
Quite easily the worst footballer I have ever seen only made 1 full appearance and a couple of sub appearances b4 PW realised what a huge mistake but think he had a least a 2 month contract

Hearing that the 'Yes' that Hurst is waiting on in his interview is Anthony Hartigan who left Wimbledon yesterday

Not a chance, will end up higher than league 2

Quoted from wiggers

Not a chance, will end up higher than league 2

I'm sure many will have said that about Dom Telford this year and Paul Mullin previously ;)

Rotherham and Blackpool amongst his potential suitors this summer, Hartigan would be one hell of a coup if this is the case.

Absolutely, just for note I can't see it happening as waiting for a 'Yes' is a lot different to an 'In Bound' as our dear friend It Bites would like to say.

I've just been told (from a reliable source) that's who Hurst was referring to. It's okay waiting for a 'Yes' until they say 'No' ;)

Quoted from AlwaysHaddock1878

Absolutely, just for note I can't see it happening as waiting for a 'Yes' is a lot different to an 'In Bound' as our dear friend It Bites would like to say.

I've just been told (from a reliable source) that's who Hurst was referring to. It's okay waiting for a 'Yes' until they say 'No' ;)

So what you’re saying is that he might sign, but probably won’t. The level of ITK intel on here gets worse by the day.

Roll on September.

If I’m proved wrong I’ll be delighted, but I’d be surprised if we even wasted our time pursuing someone who seems to have a number of championship clubs interested in him. https://www.deepdaledigest.com/news/preston-blackpool-wimbledon-anthony-hartigan/

Quoted from Poojah

So what you’re saying is that he might sign, but probably won’t. The level of ITK intel on here gets worse by the day.

Roll on September.

No. What I am saying is Hurst mentioned in his interview that he is waiting on a simple 'Yes' from a player to sign and that player is Hartigan. I never said he will or won't sign but my personal opinion is that he won't. I am not 'ITK' - far from it. Just have on good authority that this is the player Hurst was referring to. Simple as that.

We could offer Ronaldo a deal and we would be waiting on a 'Yes', so I am not for one second suggesting that this is a done deal, in fact far from it.

I’m really not sure what people get out of posting such nonsense rumours.

I get some get it wrong about some players but Hartigan is clearly a name plucked from thin air for the sake of it

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’m really not sure what people get out of posting such nonsense rumours.

I get some get it wrong about some players but Hartigan is clearly a name plucked from thin air for the sake of it

What would I gain from that? I very rarely post on here and wouldn't have done so if the info wasn't trusted..

Hagrid - owes us a 32 year old ex-Premier League CB

It Bites - owes us about 3 or 4 In Bounds

AlwaysHaddock1878 - owes us a 22 year old CM attracting second tier attention who has well over 100 appearances in L1/L2 and was one of the most accurate passers/crossers in the whole EFL last season

Quoted from AlwaysHaddock1878

What would I gain from that? I very rarely post on here and wouldn't have done so if the info wasn't trusted..

Go on then, explain in vague terms (‘cos I know ITKs can never reveal their source), who the person who told you is, why they would know and how you know them.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Hagrid - owes us a 32 year old ex-Premier League CB

It Bites - owes us about 3 or 4 In Bounds

AlwaysHaddock1878 - owes us a 22 year old CM attracting second tier attention who has well over 100 appearances in L1/L2 and was one of the most accurate passers/crossers in the whole EFL last season

ehhhh i was quick to say we wenrt signing him and I got it wrong!

Quoted from Poojah

Go on then, explain in vague terms (‘cos I know ITKs can never reveal their source), who the person who told you is, why they would know and how you know them.

It is someone who has connections to a senior member of staff within the club who has never been wrong before (albeit we only speak fairly infrequently), but for obvious reasons I shall say no more

Is the obvious reason that they don't exist?

The thread is about RUMOURS not FACTS. I think some people need to either look up the definition of "rumour" or stop reading the thread if they find it so annoying.

Quoted from Hagrid

ehhhh i was quick to say we wenrt signing him and I got it wrong!

Hahaha only pulling your leg mate, I know you're not making stuff up.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Is the obvious reason that they don't exist?

Goes on rumour thread.

Gets annoyed reading about rumours...

;D ;D

With centre miss like Smallwood and Moncur dropping to this level, it's hardly beyond the realms of possibility.

Just out of interest what do you think we'd pay top end? I presume the average player is on around 1.5 to 2k with some some slightly higher and some slightly lower. Do you think we'd offer 3-4k a week for an excellent signing or is that too risky? I think that's the only way we can really afford this chap from Wimbledon.

There's one thing for sure. Rumours are scarce nowadays since the takeover and PH coming back. I used to hear stuff from someone who knew someone, but the bush telegraph seems to have stopped. Staff changes at the club probably.

Not that I'm bothered as I can wait until players are announced officially without wetting my pants.

Quoted from ginnywings

There's one thing for sure. Rumours are scarce nowadays since the takeover and PH coming back. I used to hear stuff from someone who knew someone, but the bush telegraph seems to have stopped. Staff changes at the club probably.

Not that I'm bothered as I can wait until players are announced officially without wetting my pants.

It's the cost of petrol, nobody is filling their car at the A180 petrol station anymore.

Quoted from ginnywings

There's one thing for sure. Rumours are scarce nowadays since the takeover and PH coming back. I used to hear stuff from someone who knew someone, but the bush telegraph seems to have stopped. Staff changes at the club probably.

Not that I'm bothered as I can wait until players are announced officially without wetting my pants.

Either that or Max Wright finally got released so their main source of information has been cut off. Though Harry Clifton is still around so who knows, every other person on here seemed to be friends or know a member of their families so they'd tell friends and relatives and they'd tell their friends who would run on here and tell everyone.

I'll be honest . I was following patterns on the GTFC Twitter account. The way they post etc . I got it right 3 out of 5 I think which isn't bad .

Quoted from It Bites

I'll be honest . I was following patterns on the GTFC Twitter account. The way they post etc . I got it right 3 out of 5 I think which isn't bad .

So you actually didn’t have a clue. I’m shocked

Quoted from It Bites

I'll be honest . I was following patterns on the GTFC Twitter account. The way they post etc . I got it right 3 out of 5 I think which isn't bad .

So your an algorithm?

Automatic relegation for It Bites, I’m afraid. Banned for the entirety of the January transfer window. Sorry but I don’t make the rules.

Quoted from HerveJosse

So your an algorithm?

😂😂😂 I like that , that's the nicest thing I've been called on here . Who is Sam Peplow

Quoted from ska face

Automatic relegation for It Bites, I’m afraid. Banned for the entirety of the January transfer window. Sorry but I don’t make the rules.

At least I was trying to use science and not Bull excrement 😂😥😂

Quoted from It Bites

At least I was trying to use science and not Bull excrement 😂😥😂

Artificial Unitelligence I think you mean

Quoted from It Bites

I'll be honest . I was following patterns on the GTFC Twitter account. The way they post etc . I got it right 3 out of 5 I think which isn't bad .

Tomorrow will be Monday. I'm going to be right soon; i can feel it in my water

ps who is Sam Peplow and what's he got to do with anything?

ps who is Sam Peplow and what's he got to do with anything?[/quote]

20 year old Huddersfield Town winger out of contract 30 June

Peplow is currently on trial with Scunthorpe

Callum Cooke signs for Hartlepool.

Some great midfielders signing for league 2 clubs. None of them for us

Quoted from Mariner_501

Callum Cooke signs for Hartlepool.

Some great midfielders signing for league 2 clubs. None of them for us

Noticed he is from the area though so that probably played a part in that one

Quoted from Mariner_501

Callum Cooke signs for Hartlepool.

Some great midfielders signing for league 2 clubs. None of them for us

Yet.

So when the bloody hell are we signing Cesc then.

I'm gonna look a right idiot with Fabregas on the back of my new Town shirt! ;D

We signed Holohan because location played a part in our favour. He had a few offers from clubs higher up in the pyramid, works in our favour sometimes too

Quoted from Mariner_501

Callum Cooke signs for Hartlepool.

Some great midfielders signing for league 2 clubs. None of them for us

If Callum Cooke is great, why would Bradford release him?

Good things come to those who wait.

Coventry supporting mate reckons we are in for Jodi jones.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Coventry supporting mate reckons we are in for Jodi jones.

Surely not. He's done his ACL for the last three seasons hasn't he?!

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Coventry supporting mate reckons we are in for Jodi jones.

He was on trial at Oxford but he didn’t feature in their last pre season game, so not sure if he’s still there.

Quoted from Mariner_501

Callum Cooke signs for Hartlepool.

Some great midfielders signing for league 2 clubs. None of them for us

He's literally just been released by a L2 club so it's hardly the coup of the century.

Quoted from Surrey97

Good things come to those who wait.

Nesta Guinness-Walker confirmed

Quoted from ska face

Nesta Guinness-Walker confirmed

Another left back?

Quoted from ska face

Nesta Guinness-Walker confirmed

Not on town twitter or website as I type.

Source please.

Quoted from ska face

Nesta Guinness-Walker confirmed

Let the punning commence…

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Let the punning commence…

Well I'm partial to a pint of Guinness with a Johnnie Walker chaser

He will have a good head on him.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Let the punning commence…

Please no FFS!

Some intelligent people online tonight

Looks quite STOUT in his photos.       ;D ;D ;D

Hope he doesn't BOTTLE it.     ;D ;D ;D

Will take a while to SETTLE.    ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from RonMariner

Another left back?

Dubious on this one - we already have Glennon & Amos.
If we had 3 options at every the squad would be overloaded & PH doesn't want that.

Quoted from ska face

Nesta Guinness-Walker confirmed

Great grandson of Sir Alec Guineas. A bit posh for us.

Perhaps the Bridge over the River Humber attracted him.

The new Bonetti….. Diageo

The Twitter activity today is pointing at an in Bound . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😂

Quoted from It Bites

The Twitter activity today is pointing at an in Bound . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😂

Given how many more PH wants, you're bound to be right at some point in the near future.

Quoted from It Bites

The Twitter activity today is pointing at an in Bound . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😂

Does your algorithim give a probability on the playing position? That must have changed with the departure of DLK...

50% chance of an in bound today and a 50% chance of that being a CB?

Quoted from It Bites

The Twitter activity today is pointing at an in Bound . 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😂

I know right, this tweet just screams 'incoming signing':

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1544983289890578433

DLK gone to Dagenham and Redbridge so maybe adds anoth CB to the shopping list

Quoted from Chrisblor

I know right, this tweet just screams 'incoming signing':

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1544983289890578433

Lead Officer is an anagram of Forcefield.

A forcefield is linked to electrostatic interactions and within that Coulomb's inverse-square law, popularised and named after the French physicist Charles-Augustin de Coulomb

Three signings coming into today.

Charles Ademeno
Jean-Kévin Augustin
Michael Coul(omb)son

It Bites is right.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Lead Officer is an anagram of Forcefield.

A forcefield is linked to electrostatic interactions and within that Coulomb's inverse-square law, popularised and named after the French physicist Charles-Augustin de Coulomb

Three signings coming into today.

Charles Ademeno
Jean-Kévin Augustin
Michael Coul(omb)son

It Bites is right.

By jove I think he's got it. A triple whammy!

I'll be very disappointed if it doesn't happen. Who do I put an official complaint into?

Why have we not announced Steve Croudson?

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

By jove I think he's got it. A triple whammy!

I'll be very disappointed if it doesn't happen. Who do I put an official complaint into?

Best get that complaint rolling - Ademeno not played since 2014, Augustin just signed for Basel Coulson - not sure Seems to have dropped off the radar since 2017

Quoted from davmariner

Why have we not announced Steve Croudson?

Wiki still showing him as the Imps GK coach so …….

Quoted from LellyEm

Wiki still showing him as the Imps GK coach so …….

I could go on wiki now and say he’s a pornstar. Anyone can edit it.

Quoted from Hagrid

I could go on wiki now and say he’s a pornstar. Anyone can edit it.

Someone beat you to it

Quoted from Hagrid

I could go on wiki now and say he’s a pornstar. Anyone can edit it.

Whatever floats your boat. Go for it.

Quoted from HatTrickHero

-Staring- (blink2)

Certainly an eye opener

Looks like a quiet end to the lead up to the 1st friendly.

Ready for "trialists" 1,2, and 3 to be spotted and named at the ground on Saturday !!

Or will it be frantic Friday reveal day?

That's the fun with Hurst signings - you just don't know until the ink is dry !!

Quoted from HerveJosse

Great grandson of Sir Alec Guineas. A bit posh for us.

Perhaps the Bridge over the River Humber attracted him.

Why?

Quoted from Grimsby2012

Why?

Surely you mean K-Why?

Hurst has never typically gone for marquee signings or big names that I can recall. More relies on ex-players or young and hungry players.

I know I must have mentioned it before somewhere on this thread but would not surprise me in the slightest if Shaun Whalley ex Shrews rocks up here on a years deal. Was with Hurst at the Shrews and racked up a tonne of appearances in L1. Also the same with a CM a player who’s been in the division and done it.. names on a postcard to who it may be but someone we least expect. Then I expect another target man to come in the battering ram mould but somebody that can play. I know that Sam Winnall has been mentioned but may be too far out of our financial reach? Maybe Tom Elliott who was on the books of Salford, hard working honest forward that goals don’t really match up to his overall play but very much a Hursty type player.
Hope to see a few names on the team sheet tomorrow to get us speculating.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Hurst has never typically gone for marquee signings or big names that I can recall. More relies on ex-players or young and hungry players.

I know I must have mentioned it before somewhere on this thread but would not surprise me in the slightest if Shaun Whalley ex Shrews rocks up here on a years deal. Was with Hurst at the Shrews and racked up a tonne of appearances in L1. Also the same with a CM a player who’s been in the division and done it.. names on a postcard to who it may be but someone we least expect. Then I expect another target man to come in the battering ram mould but somebody that can play. I know that Sam Winnall has been mentioned but may be too far out of our financial reach? Maybe Tom Elliott who was on the books of Salford, hard working honest forward that goals don’t really match up to his overall play but very much a Hursty type player.
Hope to see a few names on the team sheet tomorrow to get us speculating.

Whalley signed for Accrington last week unfortunately

I wonder if Trialist will get a game tomorrow. Always a shame because he usually does ok pre season and then we never see him again, always thought he was worth a go in the middle of the park…

Quoted from Cayman_mariner

Surely you mean K-Why?

Yes, that was the whole point 🙄

Quoted from aldi_01

I wonder if Trialist will get a game tomorrow. Always a shame because he usually does ok pre season and then we never see him again, always thought he was worth a go in the middle of the park…

Indeed, hats off to him though, keeps coming back every year to give it another go, maybe this will be his year!

Quoted from Grimsby2012

Why?

Because The Lavendar Hill Mob didn’t want him.

Quoted from aldi_01

I wonder if Trialist will get a game tomorrow. Always a shame because he usually does ok pre season and then we never see him again, always thought he was worth a go in the middle of the park…

Reminds me of the David Luiz lookalike, now what was his name ::)

Quoted from aldi_01

I wonder if Trialist will get a game tomorrow. Always a shame because he usually does ok pre season and then we never see him again, always thought he was worth a go in the middle of the park…

I think Lewes FC have collared the market in trialists for pre-season friendlies this season.

[tweet]1544210778085101570[/tweet]

Quoted from Barrattstander

I think Lewes FC have collared the market in trialists for pre-season friendlies this season.

[tweet]1544210778085101570[/tweet]

I see Trialist no. 5 got sent off...he may be able to get someone else to take his ban for him though...

Club tweet says a familiar face returning, I hope they haven’t teased Croudson or Scannell

If a new goalkeeping coach is the teaser then I’m handing back my season ticket.

Still a quiet week, though, for any in bounds.

Millfields profits down !!

Scannell got any new friends with him at The Oaklands??

Quoted from davmariner

If a new goalkeeping coach is the teaser then I’m handing back my season ticket.

Plot twist. Fenty’s back.

Quoted from Poojah

Plot twist. Fenty’s back.

Duff duff duff duff duff duff duff

Giles Coke. Youth Development Coach. Didn't see that one coming.

Giles Coke, new number 9! Didn’t expect that one

It’s been a quiet week but I wouldn’t be worried. Good things sometimes take time.

Surrey97 currently tops the rumour table (BPMariner loses points for being an office gossip), so something must be bubbling away.

I appreciate that we’ve had a shorter turnaround than anyone else but we look a bit thin on the ground at the moment. Wouldn’t want to see another week as quiet as this one.

Have faith in Paul Hurst, always. And we aren’t run by amateurs anymore.

Quoted from Hagrid

I could go on wiki now and say he’s a pornstar. Anyone can edit it.

If rumours are true he probably is

Quoted from ska face

Surrey97 currently tops the rumour table (BPMariner loses points for being an office gossip), so something must be bubbling away.

Yep. This was 7 days before Maher signed…

Quoted Text

Back to actual rumours, Niall Maher from Halifax is a name I’ve heard. Centre back.

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1654974072//id-1569068#id1569068

Then 6 days before Wearne…

Quoted Text

Stephen Wearne from Sunderland is a name I’ve heard. Was on loan at Torquay second half of last season.

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1654974072//id-1571803#id1571803

So go on then Surrey, be a good lad and give us a sniff of what’s in store next week…

Come on Surrey giz some names

Mr Blonde says Alex Hunt is either coming back to GTFC, or he isn't...

Actually, we may be one of two clubs chasing him, based upon nothing more than a Wednesday fan on Football Forum saying two League 2 clubs are after him...

Wouldn't have a problem with him coming back, but I'd like someone in the Mr Blonde sort of enforcer role in CM as well if he did.

Our kid has been sniffing the fumes from the red and grey again and reckons we have an offer in of a substantial amount for an unnamed player.

Looks like Vadine Oliver has chosen Bradford. Imagine a fair few clubs were in for him.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Our kid has been sniffing the fumes from the red and grey again and reckons we have an offer in of a substantial amount for an unnamed player.

Tell him sniffing squirrel farts is bad for you. Mind you those red and greys might be getting wind of a certain midfielder in talks.

Quoted from Townforlife

Tell him sniffing squirrel farts is bad for you. Mind you those red and greys might be getting wind of a certain midfielder in talks.

Which one might that be?

Quoted from Superdan147

Which one might that be?

A mate with Sheffield connections knows that Wednesday are considering what to do about Alex Hunt this season and we are one of the league 2 clubs who have asked the question. Probably just a rumour, but would make sense if he's available

Burnley under23 player Adam Campbell is a player I reckon could be a good asset for the team. Hunt would be great to have back as well.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Burnley under23 player Adam Campbell is a player I reckon could be a good asset for the team. Hunt would be great to have back as well.

Hunt was part of an Oldham side that got relegated - a hint of the Berrett’s about that, I’d say. I don’t think he’ll be as courted as Wednesday (and town fans) think.

Quoted from Heisenberg

Hunt was part of an Oldham side that got relegated - a hint of the Berrett’s about that, I’d say. I don’t think he’ll be as courted as Wednesday (and town fans) think.

I’d say that he wasn’t suited there with all the mayhem that the club went through on and off the pitch. Didn’t they have something like 16508 managers last season!

Alternatively, Hunt was also part of the Grimsby side that topped the table playing some great football.

Quoted from Abdul19

Alternatively, Hunt was also part of the Grimsby side that topped the table playing some great football.

Yes, great delivery and a pretty good dead ball shot too. Be happy to see him back.

Wednesday loaned him out to the highest wage contributor which wasn't the best decision for his long-term development. I would be happy with him back on loan providing Wednesday can't recall him at all.

My thoughts on Hunt. Started really well and was a key player for us. Whilst not playing badly, he did start to struggle at the same time as the side did, and then he went back to Wednesday.

I don’t know anything about his performances at Oldham but we do know it is a toxic club right now, similar if not worse to how things were here at the end of the 20-21 season. Any player could be forgiven for not shining in that kind of environment. I’m really surprised he was ever loaned there, seemed really irresponsible ever sending him there in the first place let alone with the advantage of hindsight.

I would welcome him back here definitely. There is a player in Hunt easily capable of bossing League Two who I don’t think struggled physically despite the claims of the Wednesday fans. He gets on the ball deep and can play passes that others can’t even see. He’s not an all-action chaser of the ball but he does get stuck in and I think he could fit in well with the more technical approach we might be opting for this season with the likes of Wearne and Khan.

Croudson confirmed as GK coach.

So, are we expecting any trialists today then?

I’d take Alex Hunt back. Young so he’s only gonna get better, yes he didn’t do too well at Oldham, but it’s hard to stand out in a really poor side sometimes. His technical ability is there for all to see.

It looks like Hunt only started 7 of the 13 games he was at Oldham. As mentioned above, for a young player to come into a side that's struggling and make an impact is a big ask. My only concern is his lack of physicality but hopefully that comes with age.

Lack of physicality never stopped Waters or Boylen !!

If you want physicality with less than a 6 footer, you need to find or build up another Bobby Cumming.

Hunt would thrive in a free running mobile team getting into apaces and swift passing exchanges.

Those signed and staying look to be much more in that vein.

Quoted from Poojah

So, are we expecting any trialists today then?

I hope so that's my favourite part of the season!

Vadaine Oliver at Bradford confirmed

That’s Cook out the door then. I’d have him here no trouble.

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Vadaine Oliver at Bradford confirmed

Mickael Mandron the best looking option of the remaining, vaguely realistic free agents in that number nine role. I say ‘vaguely’, I still think he’ll end up in League One however I have this gut feeling that this coming week will see some of the most statement making signings we have seen for some considerable time.

Quoted from Poojah

Mickael Mandron the best looking option of the remaining, vaguely realistic free agents in that number nine role. I say ‘vaguely’, I still think he’ll end up in League One however I have this gut feeling that this coming week will see some of the most statement making signings we have seen for some considerable time.

Gills fan on OFF says he is rumoured to be returning there.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Gills fan on OFF says he is rumoured to be returning there.

Would make sense, easy access to the Channel Tunnel and his home town his only 30 minutes from Calais (I'm on a night shift, I have time to find these things out)

I've not heard anything about Andrew Dallas for a long time, have I missed something, has he signed a new contract at Solihull ?

Quoted from Poojah

Mickael Mandron the best looking option of the remaining, vaguely realistic free agents in that number nine role. I say ‘vaguely’, I still think he’ll end up in League One however I have this gut feeling that this coming week will see some of the most statement making signings we have seen for some considerable time.

Considering pail hurst said on Saturday that he wasn’t close to signing anyone, that he’s a little frustrated and we lost Ben fox to a team in the same league, I’d suggest it’d be unlikely that we make any ‘statement signings’ this coming week. There’s been lots of speculation regarding our budget being healthier than usual, but it has to be said, as of yet, there’s little evidence of this on the playing side at least. It’s pure guesswork, but logically speaking I’d be surprised if any of the players thag stayed from last year are on higher wages, waterfall and Holohan perhaps decent earners and possibly Taylor, Clifton, efete, mcatee , JMD all perhaps decent enough too. But the likes of Amos/cropper/crocombe/khouri I can’t imagine are on much. Looking at the new signings , Maher was signed from Halifax who reportedly had a very small budget so can’t imagine he’s earning huge sums, wearne has only ever played 14 senior matches so again, hard to see a big part of the budget on him. Orsi, again, having had 1 good season at Maidenhead probably isn’t a big earner. Glennon and Khan I’d think are on half decent league two contracts but overall I’m looking at the squad and struggling to see how we are even touching the likes of Bradford and Stockport (understandable) , Northampton, tranmere, Salford, Mansfield, Wimbledon and others. I’d be amazed if we’ve actually got a top 12 budget in league two this year , there’s no evidence to suggest that we have as yet.

tl;dr

Quoted from Superdan147

It’s pure guesswork

Quoted from Superdan147

Considering pail hurst said on Saturday that he wasn’t close to signing anyone...

Yes but that is his routine answer whenever he is asked that question. So there's no way of knowing whether it is true or not.

Quoted from Superdan147

Considering pail hurst said on Saturday that he wasn’t close to signing anyone, that he’s a little frustrated and we lost Ben fox to a team in the same league, I’d suggest it’d be unlikely that we make any ‘statement signings’ this coming week. There’s been lots of speculation regarding our budget being healthier than usual, but it has to be said, as of yet, there’s little evidence of this on the playing side at least. It’s pure guesswork, but logically speaking I’d be surprised if any of the players thag stayed from last year are on higher wages, waterfall and Holohan perhaps decent earners and possibly Taylor, Clifton, efete, mcatee , JMD all perhaps decent enough too. But the likes of Amos/cropper/crocombe/khouri I can’t imagine are on much. Looking at the new signings , Maher was signed from Halifax who reportedly had a very small budget so can’t imagine he’s earning huge sums, wearne has only ever played 14 senior matches so again, hard to see a big part of the budget on him. Orsi, again, having had 1 good season at Maidenhead probably isn’t a big earner. Glennon and Khan I’d think are on half decent league two contracts but overall I’m looking at the squad and struggling to see how we are even touching the likes of Bradford and Stockport (understandable) , Northampton, tranmere, Salford, Mansfield, Wimbledon and others. I’d be amazed if we’ve actually got a top 12 budget in league two this year , there’s no evidence to suggest that we have as yet.

Matt Dean said Paul Hurst confirmed to him it was an improved budget

Quoted from Superdan147

Considering pail hurst said on Saturday that he wasn’t close to signing anyone, that he’s a little frustrated and we lost Ben fox to a team in the same league, I’d suggest it’d be unlikely that we make any ‘statement signings’ this coming week. There’s been lots of speculation regarding our budget being healthier than usual, but it has to be said, as of yet, there’s little evidence of this on the playing side at least. It’s pure guesswork, but logically speaking I’d be surprised if any of the players thag stayed from last year are on higher wages, waterfall and Holohan perhaps decent earners and possibly Taylor, Clifton, efete, mcatee , JMD all perhaps decent enough too. But the likes of Amos/cropper/crocombe/khouri I can’t imagine are on much. Looking at the new signings , Maher was signed from Halifax who reportedly had a very small budget so can’t imagine he’s earning huge sums, wearne has only ever played 14 senior matches so again, hard to see a big part of the budget on him. Orsi, again, having had 1 good season at Maidenhead probably isn’t a big earner. Glennon and Khan I’d think are on half decent league two contracts but overall I’m looking at the squad and struggling to see how we are even touching the likes of Bradford and Stockport (understandable) , Northampton, tranmere, Salford, Mansfield, Wimbledon and others. I’d be amazed if we’ve actually got a top 12 budget in league two this year , there’s no evidence to suggest that we have as yet.

One player turned down a renewal, there's some evidence that we have a decent budget. By all accounts, we nearly lost Clifton to FGR so the budget can't be too bad.

Quoted from scott

Matt Dean said Paul Hurst confirmed to him it was an improved budget

Surely that's a given though, we've just brought in an extra half a million Premier league solidarity money, improved shirt sponsorship and record season ticket sales.

Quoted from Superdan147

Considering pail hurst said on Saturday that he wasn’t close to signing anyone, that he’s a little frustrated and we lost Ben fox to a team in the same league, I’d suggest it’d be unlikely that we make any ‘statement signings’ this coming week. There’s been lots of speculation regarding our budget being healthier than usual, but it has to be said, as of yet, there’s little evidence of this on the playing side at least. It’s pure guesswork, but logically speaking I’d be surprised if any of the players thag stayed from last year are on higher wages, waterfall and Holohan perhaps decent earners and possibly Taylor, Clifton, efete, mcatee , JMD all perhaps decent enough too. But the likes of Amos/cropper/crocombe/khouri I can’t imagine are on much. Looking at the new signings , Maher was signed from Halifax who reportedly had a very small budget so can’t imagine he’s earning huge sums, wearne has only ever played 14 senior matches so again, hard to see a big part of the budget on him. Orsi, again, having had 1 good season at Maidenhead probably isn’t a big earner. Glennon and Khan I’d think are on half decent league two contracts but overall I’m looking at the squad and struggling to see how we are even touching the likes of Bradford and Stockport (understandable) , Northampton, tranmere, Salford, Mansfield, Wimbledon and others. I’d be amazed if we’ve actually got a top 12 budget in league two this year , there’s no evidence to suggest that we have as yet.

Broadly agree with this assessment of the recruitment so far but I hope McAtee and Clifton are not on less than Holohan. Unfair to judge anyone on one pre season game but Gavan appears to be easing himself gently into this campaign. Given the conditions on Saturday perhaps experience told him to not get too close to the action.

Quoted from Superdan147

Considering pail hurst said on Saturday that he wasn’t close to signing anyone, that he’s a little frustrated and we lost Ben fox to a team in the same league, I’d suggest it’d be unlikely that we make any ‘statement signings’ this coming week. There’s been lots of speculation regarding our budget being healthier than usual, but it has to be said, as of yet, there’s little evidence of this on the playing side at least. It’s pure guesswork, but logically speaking I’d be surprised if any of the players thag stayed from last year are on higher wages, waterfall and Holohan perhaps decent earners and possibly Taylor, Clifton, efete, mcatee , JMD all perhaps decent enough too. But the likes of Amos/cropper/crocombe/khouri I can’t imagine are on much. Looking at the new signings , Maher was signed from Halifax who reportedly had a very small budget so can’t imagine he’s earning huge sums, wearne has only ever played 14 senior matches so again, hard to see a big part of the budget on him. Orsi, again, having had 1 good season at Maidenhead probably isn’t a big earner. Glennon and Khan I’d think are on half decent league two contracts but overall I’m looking at the squad and struggling to see how we are even touching the likes of Bradford and Stockport (understandable) , Northampton, tranmere, Salford, Mansfield, Wimbledon and others. I’d be amazed if we’ve actually got a top 12 budget in league two this year , there’s no evidence to suggest that we have as yet.

I take what Paul says about players coming in with a pinch of salt he likes to keep his cards close to his chest so would not be surprised if there was a sudden rush of players

Quoted from mariner1424

I've not heard anything about Andrew Dallas for a long time, have I missed something, has he signed a new contract at Solihull ?

Still under contract to 2023

I don’t necessarily think every transfer is so black and white that it always comes down to money. Ben Fox move takes him a lot closer to home, Vadaine Oliver is from Sheffield. There’s a million factors that goes into every move, some are money of course. We are at a huge disadvantage logistically but it hasn’t stopped PH finding gems consistently throughout his time here - let’s see how the squad takes shape over the next few weeks.

Hurst’s also said he wants another 6/7 still in the door. That’s more than half a team, including (you’d imagine) 2 in CM plus a no.9. So there’s probably a decent wedge still sat there earmarked for other signings.

Has he ever paid over the odds for anyone? Bogle cost £30k and that’s about as large a fee as he’s ever spent, isn’t it? Even then he was prepared to wait a year for the price to drop rather than pay through the nose the summer before.

Quoted from GhostDan

I don’t necessarily think every transfer is so black and white that it always comes down to money. Ben Fox move takes him a lot closer to home, Vadaine Oliver is from Sheffield. There’s a million factors that goes into every move, some are money of course. We are at a huge disadvantage logistically but it hasn’t stopped PH finding gems consistently throughout his time here - let’s see how the squad takes shape over the next few weeks.

I agree that every transfer has its intricacies but we sign players from all over the country so I don't think geography is any more of a hindrance than anywhere else. We wont get some players due to our location but conversely other clubs wont because of their location.

The important things are the manager and owners the money and length of contract and whether the club is benefiting their career.

Didn’t someone say about Nick haughton and/or Paul McCallum joining?

Aaron Amadi-Holloway is a name I heard mentioned on Saturday.

Quoted from ska face

That’s Cook out the door then. I’d have him here no trouble.

Quoted from ska face

Hurst’s also said he wants another 6/7 still in the door. That’s more than half a team, including (you’d imagine) 2 in CM plus a no.9. So there’s probably a decent wedge still sat there earmarked for other signings.

Has he ever paid over the odds for anyone? Bogle cost £30k and that’s about as large a fee as he’s ever spent, isn’t it? Even then he was prepared to wait a year for the price to drop rather than pay through the nose the summer before.

Yeah, I'd have Cook here for sure. Wasn't a Hurst favourite when he was here, but there's no getting away from the fact that he's gone onto have a great L1/L2 career since us.

I tried to spark a conversation in the London/South East Town Whatsapp group on that second post above the other day, so if you're in there apologies for making you read my thoughts on that again. But I feel like now is the time to maybe splash out on that #9. Whatever Hurst's policy/tactic on getting a striker in in the last few windows is, it just isn't working. I appreciate it's not easy, he's very clear on that, but's it's frustrating to hear the same lines over and over again each window on this subject. And while I don't want to heap negativity on the situation, if we don't land a #9 in this window that'll be four consecutive windows that this hasn't been addressed. In fact (without knowing really what Orsi is all about) you can argue it's four windows we haven't even seen a single #9 come in on a permanent basis...McAtee and Taylor aren't #9s. Lenny was brought in on an 18 month deal, also not a #9. Fuck knows if Stefan Payne was supposed to be a #9, but that didn't work out. I'm not saying we should be paying 250/300k for someone in transfer fees on top of a decent wage but an extra 1k/2k p/w to land a goalscoring striker that other teams in the division are going to beat us to would cost 50/100k extra. Surely this needs to be given serious consideration now. The owners have already said that we'd be making a loss this season and that was if we were in the National League. With 5,000 season tickets sold, queues around the block for a new shirt, a fan park bringing in more matchday revenue than we've ever had, etc. I'd personally like to see us take a punt. For me, if we start this season without a proper #9 in the squad, it's borderline inexcusable.

You have to ask who is available because it looks like 80% of the league are looking for strikers. No doubt some of the available players will be holding out hoping for a better deal but who knows what options we really have.
Patience is key here for the next few weeks so we have to trust the club to get the best players they can.
Keep the faith
Up the Mariners!

Quoted from Son of Cod

Yeah, I'd have Cook here for sure. Wasn't a Hurst favourite when he was here, but there's no getting away from the fact that he's gone onto have a great L1/L2 career since us.

I tried to spark a conversation in the London/South East Town Whatsapp group on that second post above the other day, so if you're in there apologies for making you read my thoughts on that again. But I feel like now is the time to maybe splash out on that #9. Whatever Hurst's policy/tactic on getting a striker in in the last few windows is, it just isn't working. I appreciate it's not easy, he's very clear on that, but's it's frustrating to hear the same lines over and over again each window on this subject. And while I don't want to heap negativity on the situation, if we don't land a #9 in this window that'll be four consecutive windows that this hasn't been addressed. In fact (without knowing really what Orsi is all about) you can argue it's four windows we haven't even seen a single #9 come in on a permanent basis...McAtee and Taylor aren't #9s. Lenny was brought in on an 18 month deal, also not a #9. Fuck knows if Stefan Payne was supposed to be a #9, but that didn't work out. I'm not saying we should be paying 250/300k for someone in transfer fees on top of a decent wage but an extra 1k/2k p/w to land a goalscoring striker that other teams in the division are going to beat us to would cost 50/100k extra. Surely this needs to be given serious consideration now. The owners have already said that we'd be making a loss this season and that was if we were in the National League. With 5,000 season tickets sold, queues around the block for a new shirt, a fan park bringing in more matchday revenue than we've ever had, etc. I'd personally like to see us take a punt. For me, if we start this season without a proper #9 in the squad, it's borderline inexcusable.

There is more to being a 9 than simply scoring goals. Taylors' hold up play is superb and so pivotal to how we play. It will be interesting to see how Orsi fits into how we play and how that impacts McAtee too. We have goals elsewhere with McAtee, JMD, Khan, Clifton, Holohan Waterfall all capable of chipping in with a decent number of goals. Look how a reliance on a number 9 served Chesterfield last season...

Quoted from jimgtfc

Aaron Amadi-Holloway is a name I heard mentioned on Saturday.

Heard the same

Quoted from Son of Cod

I tried to spark a conversation in the London/South East Town Whatsapp group on that second post above the other day, so if you're in there apologies for making you read my thoughts on that again.

I don’t earn anywhere near enough to make the London/SE WhatsApp Group 😬

Wouldn’t disagree with that though. Bloke’s as tight as a duck’s bottom, would be nice to see a big marquee signing but don’t think he’ll ever go for one. Would sooner see us chuck a massive wedge at a decent CM.

Side note to get away from the stress and panic.

But if we signed Orsi direct from Maidenhead, we would all be over the moon.
26, prime age, previously scored a goal every other game in non-league (Better than Tshimanga, Wootton. now league 2, Oates, now league 2)
I think this signing has huge potential.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Aaron Amadi-Holloway is a name I heard mentioned on Saturday.

17 goals in 204 games according to Wiki. :-/

But if PH signs him that's good enough for me.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

There is more to being a 9 than simply scoring goals. Taylors' hold up play is superb and so pivotal to how we play. It will be interesting to see how Orsi fits into how we play and how that impacts McAtee too. We have goals elsewhere with McAtee, JMD, Khan, Clifton, Holohan Waterfall all capable of chipping in with a decent number of goals. Look how a reliance on a number 9 served Chesterfield last season...

Oh yeah of course, I love Taylor. Again though, not a #9. And I'm not saying we need to be reliant on a goalscoring striker, but by not having that in our squad we are making life more difficult for ourselves than it needs to be. I'm talking about someone who can get on the end of things. If even half of the balls that flashed/rolled/zipped/bobbled/trickled across our opponents boxes last season had been poked home then we'd have pushed Stockport and Wrexham in the title race. We're desperate for someone who is gonna be in the box when we cross it from open play. I can't see League 2 being as accommodating as the NL in letting us sneak into the playoffs without that option up top.

Quoted from ska face

I don’t earn anywhere near enough to make the London/SE WhatsApp Group 😬

I don't think I do either! I meant if I'm subjecting anyone on the wider forum to my rant twice in the space of a few days though, wasn't clear now that I read that back.

Quoted from ska face

Wouldn’t disagree with that though. Bloke’s as tight as a duck’s bottom, would be nice to see a big marquee signing but don’t think he’ll ever go for one. Would sooner see us chuck a massive wedge at a decent CM.

The pitfalls of appointing a Yorkshireman as manager.

I'd be happy with 2 quality signings, CM and striker, before ko, I guess we all would. That will give good options for the first few games, albeit we'd be light if we got injuries at CM and CB. We've a month to add others that are not their managers plans.

Quoted from jimgtfc

Aaron Amadi-Holloway is a name I heard mentioned on Saturday.

I think we've had enough Holloway's to last us all a lifetime! :)

Quoted from Les Brechin

I think we've had enough Holloway's to last us all a lifetime! :)

That passed my mind as well!

Quoted from Surrey97

Heard the same

You seem to have your finger on the pulse, so I will give this some credence.

He's a free agent, so I imagine he will at least have been looked at as someone who has played a good amount of games in League 1.

Big, strong and hard working seems to be the consensus from what I can find. Also someone who creates for others, rather than being prolific himself. A younger version of Taylor by the look of it.

Think we have room for 2 more strikers, so maybe him and another more mobile option.

Quoted from ginnywings

You seem to have your finger on the pulse, so I will give this some credence.

He's a free agent, so I imagine he will at least have been looked at as someone who has played a good amount of games in League 1.

Big, strong and hard working seems to be the consensus from what I can find. Also someone who creates for others, rather than being prolific himself. A younger version of Taylor by the look of it.

Think we have room for 2 more strikers, so maybe him and another more mobile option.

Seems to have decent reviews from Barrow fans. Definitely not a goal scorer but as you say he seems similar to Taylor. Think he should be judged more on his hold up play than his goals scored.

Quoted from ska face

tl;dr

Is that a clue? Is that a clue?

Initials of two new players in bound?

Lucas Tubarão a Brazilian free agent?

Devyne Rensch a Dutch 18 year old wonderkid who can play all across the back line? Current value of £30+ million

Quoted from jimgtfc

Aaron Amadi-Holloway is a name I heard mentioned on Saturday.

With the initials AAH, that can be taken in many ways

AAH as in horror (because of the H*ll*way name)

AAH as in surprise

AAH as in pain

AAH as in unsure

Add anymore you think could be an option

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

With the initials AAH, that can be taken in many ways

AAH as in horror (because of the H*ll*way name)

AAH as in surprise

AAH as in pain

AAH as in unsure

Add anymore you think could be an option

AAH just don’t know

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Is that a clue? Is that a clue?

Initials of two new players in bound?

Lucas Tubarão a Brazilian free agent?

Devyne Rensch a Dutch 18 year old wonderkid who can play all across the back line? Current value of £30+ million

Tha’s looking ; dern rovrum

We’re signing Josh Kayode

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

With the initials AAH, that can be taken in many ways

AAH as in horror (because of the H*ll*way name)

AAH as in surprise

AAH as in pain

AAH as in unsure

Add anymore you think could be an option

AAH Bisto

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Tha’s looking ; dern rovrum

We’re signing Josh Kayode

Joshua Akinola Ogunfaolu-Kayode

That one will be difficult to incorporate into a song. Really rolls off the tongue.

But last season scored 2 goals in 28 games. Now that would have been a good signing in years gone by but hopefully we would look for a bit better record now.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Joshua Akinola Ogunfaolu-Kayode

That one will be difficult to incorporate into a song. Really rolls off the tongue.

But last season scored 2 goals in 28 games. Now that would have been a good signing in years gone by but hopefully we would look for a bit better record now.

Because Mani Dieseruvwe was absolutely useless wasn't he?

Quoted from 137

17 goals in 204 games according to Wiki. :-/

But if PH signs him that's good enough for me.

Imagine getting a shirt with Holloway printed on the back? Get lynched first game!

Quoted from Zmariner

AAH Bisto

I've heard he's different gravy.

Quoted from Poojah

Mickael Mandron the best looking option of the remaining, vaguely realistic free agents in that number nine role. I say ‘vaguely’, I still think he’ll end up in League One however I have this gut feeling that this coming week will see some of the most statement making signings we have seen for some considerable time.

Just signed for Gillingham.

Quoted from Croxton

I've heard he's different gravy.

Comes from good stock!

Mandron to Gills. Quigley to Morcambe with rumours of that enabling Norwood to Stockport now hoovering strikers as well as midfielders...

Starting to wonder if we are missing out on some of our top targets.

Can imagine we were interested in the likes of Callum Camps, Vadine Oliver, Mikael Mandron, Akil Wright, Anthony Hartigan, Richie Smallwood, yet they end up signing for our League 2 rivals.

Looking at a strong league 2 this season and we are potentially half a starting 11 short with less than 3 weeks till the first game.

Hoping Hursty pulls a couple of good'uns out of the bag by the end of the week.

Josh Kayode got 8 goals in 31 starts for a struggling Carlisle in lg2 last season...is that really such a bad record? Sounds alright to me. And i have no idea what type of forward he is..

Quoted from Stew0_0

Starting to wonder if we are missing out on some of our top targets.

Can imagine we were interested in the likes of Callum Camps, Vadine Oliver, Mikael Mandron, Akil Wright, Anthony Hartigan, Richie Smallwood, yet they end up signing for our League 2 rivals.

Looking at a strong league 2 this season and we are potentially half a starting 11 short with less than 3 weeks till the first game.

Hoping Hursty pulls a couple of good'uns out of the bag by the end of the week.

he hasnt yet

Yeah getting a little concerned tbh. As it stands we’re very little in central midfield.

Quoted from wiggers

Yeah getting a little concerned tbh. As it stands we’re very little in central midfield.

Hurst has said he wants 6 or 7 more, either signings or loans. The deadline day is 1st September so we will have to wait and see,

Quoted from sam gy

Josh Kayode got 8 goals in 31 starts for a struggling Carlisle in lg2 last season...is that really such a bad record? Sounds alright to me. And i have no idea what type of forward he is..

Enquiry been made to get him on LOAN from Rotherham

Hurst has his list of players and no doubt agents have a list of clubs they would prefer their star players to join.

As time goes on both lists meet at a mutually convenient point!

I have given up on marquee signings as I think Hurst will just not pay what is required, but last season shows he can come up with the goods anyway. Had it not been for that major and quite baffling blip of results we would have challenged for the title with no big money signings. I expect something similar this season but hopefully without the blip.

Has Hurst ever really been one for 'marquee' signings....and do they even exist at this level? I pretty much never know who any new signings are, but maybe thats just me.

Don't think we made any last season and we got promoted..

Quoted from DB

Hurst has said he wants 6 or 7 more, either signings or loans. The deadline day is 1st September so we will have to wait and see,

But we ideally want players in before the season begins. If I'm being totally honest, I don't think our central midfield is currently league 2 quality. Holohan is ok but there's a reason Hartlepool let him go. Clifton hasn't played there in a year and Khouri is a complete unknown. I'd be very concerned if we started the season without signing at least 1 centre mid, but realistically we need 2. I get the need to be patient, but we don't want to be signing players after the seasons begun who need to gain fitness and bed in.

Quoted from Stew0_0

Starting to wonder if we are missing out on some of our top targets.

Can imagine we were interested in the likes of Callum Camps, Vadine Oliver, Mikael Mandron, Akil Wright, Anthony Hartigan, Richie Smallwood, yet they end up signing for our League 2 rivals.

Looking at a strong league 2 this season and we are potentially half a starting 11 short with less than 3 weeks till the first game.

Hoping Hursty pulls a couple of good'uns out of the bag by the end of the week.

On paper our recruitment has been rather underwhelming tbh, especially looking at others in the division

Quoted from Mariner_501

On paper our recruitment has been rather underwhelming tbh, especially looking at others in the division

same could be said last year compared to Notts County, Chesterfield, Wrexham etc etc....

Trust the manager, i do.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

same could be said last year compared to Notts County, Chesterfield, Wrexham etc etc....

Trust the manager, i do.

I trust Hurst but this isn't the best of examples, two of the teams you mentioned finished the regular season above us!

Quoted from IrishMariner

I trust Hurst but this isn't the best of examples, two of the teams you mentioned finished the regular season above us!

Yet still finished the season as a National League club...

Not sure how posters can describe new signings as underwhelming before actually seeing them play in competitive league matches. The two defenders brought in are, in my mind, both high quality, Orsi took his goal very well on Saturday and could prove to be that cool clinical finisher we want. Previous signings from Sunderland, Embleton and Robson, both performed well for town so that gives me confidence in their academy’s system so look forward to seeing him play. Khan has come through some decent youth systems and seems pretty well regarded by previous fans.

Of course not all these signings will be a success, as proved the case last season with Jones and Burgess, but Hursty gets more right then wrong so let’s give him the credit he deserves on signing players. I do agree that we still require two central midfield players and preferably before the season starts together with a new centre back and striker but they will arrive and I’m sure we will be a very competitive and decent team in league 2 this season.

Quoted from Mariner_501

On paper our recruitment has been rather underwhelming tbh, especially looking at others in the division

Although I fully trust PH and the current project and wouldn't say I'm underwhelmed as such, I still get what you mean.

In all honesty I often found most of our Transfer windows in our recent seasons in the Football League to be underwhelming, certainly when you compare it to our Non-League windows. It's a strange one, we almost appeared to attract a higher calibre of player when we were a top end NL side, certainly when you look at players we signed in 2015/16 season and compare it to the first year back in 2016/17.

Plenty of time yet to bring in players, certainly with a boosted budget we aren't going to be penny pinching like we were under Fenty.

I'm looking at the CM situation with curiosity rather than impatience.

Yep, Hurst doesn't do Marquee signings. Well not so far...

But he's trying to replace Ben Fox, and whilst I have the utmost faith in our manager's abilities to spot a good'un - a player who could
perform as Fox did in the play-offs, and would play for our current top salary, probably doesn't exist.

So might PH splash the cash this time? If we're seriously looking for promotion (as we are) I'd say he needs to.

Or just sign someone we've never heard of who turns out to be great, Paul. That's fine too.

Quoted from IrishMariner

I trust Hurst but this isn't the best of examples, two of the teams you mentioned finished the regular season above us!

One got promoted and the other team promoted was us, if we finish in the same position as last season, we have a easier chance of promotion, because we will only have a two legged tie to get to the play-off final.

Happy to see how the season pans out, have no expecations, looking forward to seeing a packed out BP and the travelling black & white army following pack out the away ends this season, which we have not seen for a long time and the younger generation will have never witnessed packed out BP.

I can remember that I had to get to the games early to get my standing spot behind the goal in the Pontoon.

Just enjoy the good feeling around the town at the moment, lets see where this rollercaster ride takes us next.

UTM

The stated aim of the new owners, as regards the playing side of things, is to improve with each window and It's fair to say we did just that last season. We started with a lot of new players after relegation, got a decent start, then went flat. PH and the club rectified that over the second half of the season and in the January window. Job done and promotion.

I think we have already seen improvements to the squad for the coming season, especially in defence with Maher and Glennon. The three forward thinking players of Wearne, Khan and Orsi don't look too shabby either and I'm sure we will be adding to those as and when we can.

What they didn't promise to do was throw stupid money at players like Stockport, Wrexham and Chesterfield did last season. It worked for Stockport and good luck to them, but the other two are still in non league and we aren't, so there is more than one way of doing things.

They are looking at steady, affordable progress and are willing at this stage to get into a certain amount of managed debt, as mentioned by Jason in his interview. He also said that we are not looking to hang around in this league and are looking at several options on the playing side.

We may not have all the pieces in place yet, and maybe won't before the season starts, but we have to trust what they are doing and let them get on with it. I'm not worried about lack of signings at this stage, although I do accept we are short in the centre midfield positions. I reckon we will have one or two in place there before we kick off and will be able to field a decent looking side.

As PH keeps stating, he would rather wait and get the right characters, than rush in and sign players just to make up the numbers.

Quoted from Mariner_501

On paper our recruitment has been rather underwhelming tbh, especially looking at others in the division

3 weeks before the start of last season most thought similar, including comments about some guy called Ben Fox who had to prove himself. Then it all started to gel and the rest is history

I have to say, I think we would probably be looking for more a Robson-type midfielder than an Embleton-type one? Robson came into his own when he began running and tackling harder, rather than trying to be a ball player. I'm not convinced that we will have room for an Embleton type in there (which, of course, includes Alex Hunt) with the current squad. Who knows, though? No idea what Hurst has planned or if there is anybody else pencilled in already.

I suspect midfield signimgs havent panned out and we will now be looking at short term fixes like burgess or loans and neither will.probably last past January when it will be all change again. Also remember fox wasnt amazing until the playoffs

I’m quite relaxed about our business so far and think we are on the right track tbh. I couldn’t tell you anything about any of the players we have signed other than Glennon but they seem about right.

Maher - team of the year last year in the best defence. Cracking signing on paper.
Glennon - we all know his ability already.
Orsi - scored goals the season before last and earned the sort of move you’d expect to Cambridge. Didn’t seem to happen there but we’ve taken a chance on a centre forward different in style to Taylor.
Wearne - seen some good highlights of his time at Torquay. Should fit in well.
Khan - seems a bit of an enigma. Flair player who I hope it works out for.

We’ve kept everyone else we wanted to keep which was also important, other than Fox, and we shouldn’t forget that. Ben Fox up to March was replaceable but I feel like we are now trying to get a replacement close to his standard exhibited from March onwards, which admittedly won’t be easy.

If we can add quality centre mids then I think the squad is in a healthy position where we can afford to be really picky with recruitment but this is from my viewpoint of being happy with a mid-table finish.

It's the same each year. As soon as there has been no signings for like a week everyone assumes that we are doomed and then like 5 signings show up at once. Sure it'd be nice to have every signing done before the end of June so we have the whole team together for the first day of pre-season but it doesn't work that way. We have until September to make signings so we are hardly in a position to be making panic signings to make up the numbers.

Let’s not worry about it. I think we are in an excellent place in terms of last time we came up from the league. I wouldn’t want us being an unsustainable model signing marquee players and big names for one season of glory and if they didn’t deliver… Everything goes to excrement. We’ve got an honest hard working team with PH trying to add sparkles and glimpses of quality and that will do for me. What’s happening behind the scenes with the Chair will pay dividends in time regardless. This season will be an improvement on the last and I’m here to enjoy it.

Saw a friend today who said he spoke to Stockwood at the linden club on Saturday and he stated we were trying to finalise 2 signings that the fans will get really excited about. So hopefully they pull through 🤞🏼

Quoted from You stripes UTM

Saw a friend today who said he spoke to Stockwood at the linden club on Saturday and he stated we were trying to finalise 2 signings that the fans will get really excited about. So hopefully they pull through 🤞🏼

Will the hairs on the back of my neck stick up though? 😂

Quoted from Mariner_09

Will the hairs on the back of my neck stick up though? 😂

I’m hoping it makes something else stick up! 🤣

Quoted from ska face

Nesta Guinness-Walker confirmed

Any news yet?

Quoted from You stripes UTM

Saw a friend today who said he spoke to Stockwood at the linden club on Saturday and he stated we were trying to finalise 2 signings that the fans will get really excited about. So hopefully they pull through 🤞🏼

I believe 1 of those was vadaine Oliver which is a shame he’s class but we will see still got a bit of time left yet hopefully hursty pulls something out of the hat

Quoted from DB

Any news yet?

Maybe, and I'm just guessing here, the name mentioned was a joke in response to the phrase "Good things come to those who wait" rather than an indication of any inside knowledge?

120 pages and virtually no rumours,good job we dont pay for this thread ,because it would get slaughtered by trading standards.
we should have a sweepstake on what page an actual rumour will appear.UTFM

Quoted from newarkmariner

120 pages and virtually no rumours,good job we dont pay for this thread ,because it would get slaughtered by trading standards.
we should have a sweepstake on what page an actual rumour will appear.UTFM

“If ya don’t like it, don’t facking come”.

Quoted from davmariner

“If ya don’t like it, don’t facking come”.

i come on it to read about rumours ,im merely pointing out the absolute lack off them,so go f&vk yourself

Quoted from Mendonca1995

I believe 1 of those was vadaine Oliver which is a shame he’s class but we will see still got a bit of time left yet hopefully hursty pulls something out of the hat

Would be surprised if it was Oliver as there were photos of him at Valley Parade doing the rounds on Friday afternoon.

Quoted from ska face

Would be surprised if it was Oliver as there were photos of him at Valley Parade doing the rounds on Friday afternoon.

he's already signed for them on a 3 year contract.

Not much to talk about. Many players knocked us back because they had other offers where they wouldn't have to uproot or close to a major city that was more appealing than living in the middle of nowhere. Money offered hasn't really been the issue but we'll always have trouble attracting some players to the area because they want to be in or near Manchester, London or even Leeds.

Will have to wait and see who is in 2nd and 3rd on Hurst's lists but still at least a couple that the club are waiting for an answer on. I'm going to guess neither will sign for us since we've been waiting over a week for an answer so they are probably stalling and hoping a better offer appears.

I’d definitely expect a couple in this week.

Quoted from Surrey97

I’d definitely expect a couple in this week.

Is that guess work/hoping or something you know?

Quoted from Kris2

Not much to talk about. Many players knocked us back because they had other offers where they wouldn't have to uproot or close to a major city that was more appealing than living in the middle of nowhere. Money offered hasn't really been the issue but we'll always have trouble attracting some players to the area because they want to be in or near Manchester, London or even Leeds.

Will have to wait and see who is in 2nd and 3rd on Hurst's lists but still at least a couple that the club are waiting for an answer on. I'm going to guess neither will sign for us since we've been waiting over a week for an answer so they are probably stalling and hoping a better offer appears.

You are right in some cases of course, but equally some players dont want to be anywhere near a big city; in any event cities for night life should not be their number one concern (!) but they will have mates all over the country so will no doubt have nights out in cities away from where they play.

I don't think league 2 players have a huge choice between cities and provincial towns; only perhaps two or three clubs want or need any particular player, and it is hardly a choice of Monte carlo or Grimsby is it?

Money will be the overriding factor; with all due respect to Wrexham, Paul Mullin didn't go to Wrexham for the big city vibe did he?

Some players dont fancy Grimsby, just like they dont fancy Stevenage or Carlisle or Hartlepool but nonetheless we sign players from all over the UK, and indeed abroad if the money / terms are good enough. We may have lost some but we will gain others.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

You are right in some cases of course, but equally some players dont want to be anywhere near a big city; in any event cities for night life should not be their number one concern (!) but they will have mates all over the country so will no doubt have nights out in cities away from where they play.

I don't think league 2 players have a huge choice between cities and provincial towns; only perhaps two or three clubs want or need any particular player, and it is hardly a choice of Monte carlo or Grimsby is it?

Money will be the overriding factor; with all due respect to Wrexham, Paul Mullin didn't go to Wrexham for the big city vibe did he?

Some players dont fancy Grimsby, just like they dont fancy Stevenage or Carlisle or Hartlepool but nonetheless we sign players from all over the UK, and indeed abroad if the money / terms are good enough. We may have lost some but we will gain others.

Wrexham feels like it’s the middle of nowhere but it’s less than an hour from Liverpool and closer to Manchester than Grimsby is to Sheffield. Most of their players won’t even live in Wales, let alone Wrexham.

Money is still the biggest single factor for them attracting players but their location doesn’t hurt.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

You are right in some cases of course, but equally some players dont want to be anywhere near a big city; in any event cities for night life should not be their number one concern (!) but they will have mates all over the country so will no doubt have nights out in cities away from where they play.

I don't think league 2 players have a huge choice between cities and provincial towns; only perhaps two or three clubs want or need any particular player, and it is hardly a choice of Monte carlo or Grimsby is it?

Money will be the overriding factor; with all due respect to Wrexham, Paul Mullin didn't go to Wrexham for the big city vibe did he?

Some players dont fancy Grimsby, just like they dont fancy Stevenage or Carlisle or Hartlepool but nonetheless we sign players from all over the UK, and indeed abroad if the money / terms are good enough. We may have lost some but we will gain others.

I do think you are underestimating the importance of geography.

You mention Paul Mullin, and he has played for Swindon and Cambridge, but the majority of his career has been spent in the NW. Mullin’s from the Liverpool area. I don’t know where he lives now (since the restraining order was put in place) but I would imagine he lives in the Wirral, which is only about 30 mins from Wrexham. That is easily commutable. If Wrexham are also offering wages that we either cannot or will not compete with (and I’m not suggesting we should be), you can see why Mullin would choose Wrexham over us.

I’m not a footballer, but in my industry, if someone offered to double my wages if I moved to Grimsby, to work under a progressive board and revered line manager, with great colleagues…I still wouldn’t move there.

Every couple of months there are threads reminding us of the positives of the area (there is an ongoing one at the moment about Cleethorpes) and I agree with these. The region is relatively safe, with (generally) very welcoming, friendly and down-to-earth people, some good schools in the villages, coastal, surrounded by pretty, unspoilt countryside, lower cost of living and house prices etc.

I’m not bashing the area, but even having lived there for my first 18 years and even with friends in Grimsby, I would rather live in the countryside near Manchester, Leeds or Newcastle, for instance.

It’s not even about nightlife. Small things like the youth wanting Nando’s or vegan restaurants. Now, I’ve never been in a Nando’s (I would imagine they are slightly more healthy, civilised versions of McDonald’s) but the nearest one to Grimsby is in Hull. Then you’ve got the lack of cinemas or other entertainment that doesn’t involve food or alcohol. If you are single (or looking for bone in chicken thighs on the side) your reservoir of local Tinder and Grindr talent in the Grimsby area is going to be much lower than nearer to a large city.

Lack of diversity is probably a factor too, however welcoming most of the local population is.

As I say, the area does have a lot to offer. Once we get the players signed up, particularly the more experienced players with a settled home life, they tend to stay in the area after their playing career ends or at the very least, retain a strong affinity to the club.

But geography and distance from any large cities is always going to be a disadvantage.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I do think you are underestimating the importance of geography.

You mention Paul Mullin, and he has played for Swindon and Cambridge, but the majority of his career has been spent in the NW. Mullin’s from the Liverpool area. I don’t know where he lives now (since the restraining order was put in place) but I would imagine he lives in the Wirral, which is only about 30 mins from Wrexham. That is easily commutable. If Wrexham are also offering wages that we either cannot or will not compete with (and I’m not suggesting we should be), you can see why Mullin would choose Wrexham over us.

I’m not a footballer, but in my industry, if someone offered to double my wages if I moved to Grimsby, to work under a progressive board and revered line manager, with great colleagues…I still wouldn’t move there.

Every couple of months there are threads reminding us of the positives of the area (there is an ongoing one at the moment about Cleethorpes) and I agree with these. The region is relatively safe, with (generally) very welcoming, friendly and down-to-earth people, some good schools in the villages, coastal, surrounded by pretty, unspoilt countryside, lower cost of living and house prices etc.

I’m not bashing the area, but even having lived there for my first 18 years and even with friends in Grimsby, I would rather live in the countryside near Manchester, Leeds or Newcastle, for instance.

It’s not even about nightlife. Small things like the youth wanting Nando’s or vegan restaurants. Now, I’ve never been in a Nando’s (I would imagine they are slightly more healthy, civilised versions of McDonald’s) but the nearest one to Grimsby is in Hull. Then you’ve got the lack of cinemas or other entertainment that doesn’t involve food or alcohol. If you are single (or looking for bone in chicken thighs on the side) your reservoir of local Tinder and Grindr talent in the Grimsby area is going to be much lower than nearer to a large city.

Lack of diversity is probably a factor too, however welcoming most of the local population is.

As I say, the area does have a lot to offer. Once we get the players signed up, particularly the more experienced players with a settled home life, they tend to stay in the area after their playing career ends or at the very least, retain a strong affinity to the club.

But geography and distance from any large cities is always going to be a disadvantage.

Ditch the new training ground and take out a Nando’s franchise.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Ditch the new training ground and take out a Nando’s franchise.

Is that a rumour? 5 on the Bentley scale?

Ben Fox has 24 Nando’s closer to Northampton’s stadium than the Hull branch is to Grimsby.

24! That’s one an hour.

Two of them are halal too and five of them offer outside seating.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Is that a rumour? 5 on the Bentley scale?

Ben Fox has 24 Nando’s closer to Northampton’s stadium than the Hull branch is to Grimsby.

24! That’s one an hour.

Two of them are are halal too and five of them offer outside seating.

Foxes do like chcken I will give you thst

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Is that a rumour? 5 on the Bentley scale?

Ben Fox has 24 Nando’s closer to Northampton’s stadium than the Hull branch is to Grimsby.

24! That’s one an hour.

Two of them are are halal too and five of them offer outside seating.

This has some rationality, some smart person could probably create an algorithm - a player would accept £x per week lower wage per unit of Nando density within a 1 hour drive...

Quoted from Marinerdan

Wrexham feels like it’s the middle of nowhere but it’s less than an hour from Liverpool and closer to Manchester than Grimsby is to Sheffield. Most of their players won’t even live in Wales, let alone Wrexham.

Money is still the biggest single factor for them attracting players but their location doesn’t hurt.

He was at Cambridge before that, so what was the perceived advantage there?

The point I am making is that players move all over the country all the time. Some move from one end of the country to the other and back again.

Every time there is a lull in signings people say our location is holding us back but that applies to all locations subject to each players circumstances.

The current Town squad come from all over the country including big cities and players will always move where the offers are.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

He was at Cambridge before that, so what was the perceived advantage there?

The point I am making is that players move all over the country all the time. Some move from one end of the country to the other and back again.

Every time there is a lull in signings people say our location is holding us back but that applies to all locations subject to each players circumstances.

The current Town squad come from all over the country including big cities and players will always move where the offers are.

I think it was the PHD in Astro Physics he was doing

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I do think you are underestimating the importance of geography.

You mention Paul Mullin, and he has played for Swindon and Cambridge, but the majority of his career has been spent in the NW. Mullin’s from the Liverpool area. I don’t know where he lives now (since the restraining order was put in place) but I would imagine he lives in the Wirral, which is only about 30 mins from Wrexham. That is easily commutable. If Wrexham are also offering wages that we either cannot or will not compete with (and I’m not suggesting we should be), you can see why Mullin would choose Wrexham over us.

I’m not a footballer, but in my industry, if someone offered to double my wages if I moved to Grimsby, to work under a progressive board and revered line manager, with great colleagues…I still wouldn’t move there.

Every couple of months there are threads reminding us of the positives of the area (there is an ongoing one at the moment about Cleethorpes) and I agree with these. The region is relatively safe, with (generally) very welcoming, friendly and down-to-earth people, some good schools in the villages, coastal, surrounded by pretty, unspoilt countryside, lower cost of living and house prices etc.

I’m not bashing the area, but even having lived there for my first 18 years and even with friends in Grimsby, I would rather live in the countryside near Manchester, Leeds or Newcastle, for instance.

It’s not even about nightlife. Small things like the youth wanting Nando’s or vegan restaurants. Now, I’ve never been in a Nando’s (I would imagine they are slightly more healthy, civilised versions of McDonald’s) but the nearest one to Grimsby is in Hull. Then you’ve got the lack of cinemas or other entertainment that doesn’t involve food or alcohol. If you are single (or looking for bone in chicken thighs on the side) your reservoir of local Tinder and Grindr talent in the Grimsby area is going to be much lower than nearer to a large city.

Lack of diversity is probably a factor too, however welcoming most of the local population is.

As I say, the area does have a lot to offer. Once we get the players signed up, particularly the more experienced players with a settled home life, they tend to stay in the area after their playing career ends or at the very least, retain a strong affinity to the club.

But geography and distance from any large cities is always going to be a disadvantage.

Like I just replied to another poster Mullin was at Cambridge. That is not near Manchester or Liverpool is it?

Players play for Grimsby Scunthorpe Rotherham or whever and they don't worry too much about Nando's.

Khan just moved to us from London, so why did he do that? Players have a tiny number of offers so it is not a wide a choice of areas, perceived good and bad.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

He was at Cambridge before that, so what was the perceived advantage there?

Arguably the best restaurant in the country.

Wonderful punting opportunities.

Instagrammable, with great Tinder action.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

This has some rationality, some smart person could probably create an algorithm - a player would accept £x per week lower wage per unit of Nando density within a 1 hour drive...

Using my own ‘very limited’ experience of Nandos I would want to be on more money in order to pay for that overpriced Kentucky!!!

Maybe Andy Cannon could be on our radar? Obviously on loan at Stockport last season and not in Hull's plans.

Worst rumours thread ever. Has that petrol station on the A180 closed or what?

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Arguably the best restaurant in the country.

Wonderful punting opportunities.

Instagrammable, with great Tinder action.

We've got Steeles and the boating lake if that's his thing so I expect him to sign this week.

Yep the mind boggles as to why he would have wanted to live in one of the nicest cities in the UK, about an hour away from London.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

We've got Steeles and the boating lake if that's his thing so I expect him to sign this week.

And if you’re not on Tinder there’s always the Swashy 😉

Quoted from Son of Cod

Yep the mind boggles as to why he would have wanted to live in one of the nicest cities in the UK, about an hour away from London.

I'm surprised Cambridge aren't in the Premier league then if football is based on how nice a town is.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Maybe Andy Cannon could be on our radar? Obviously on loan at Stockport last season and not in Hull's plans.

Good shout, hell of a signing if he did!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

He was at Cambridge before that, so what was the perceived advantage there?

The point I am making is that players move all over the country all the time. Some move from one end of the country to the other and back again.

Every time there is a lull in signings people say our location is holding us back but that applies to all locations subject to each players circumstances.

The current Town squad come from all over the country including big cities and players will always move where the offers are.

Strikers who score 32 goals in a season tend to have more options than players who score 8 in two.

Like I say money will be the biggest factor but a club being an hours drive from a players hometown is a big advantage too.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I'm surprised Cambridge aren't in the Premier league then if football is based on how nice a town is.

It’s the same every year, but I can’t understand why people don’t get just how far behind the big cities GY/Clee are. That’s not to say the area is getting worse, but the big cities are getting better at a rate that detached, provincial towns just can’t keep up with.

These are generally young men in their 20s and early 30s with plenty of free time and disposable cash. You can’t sit in Smugglers all day and I imagine on a night out you’re probably wary of getting your head pecked by people who don’t think you should be out on the píss. Even if you want to go shopping, what is there in town? Not even an H&M is there?

Quoted from ska face

It’s the same every year, but I can’t understand why people don’t get just how far behind the big cities GY/Clee are. That’s not to say the area is getting worse, but the big cities are getting better at a rate that detached, provincial towns just can’t keep up with.

These are generally young men in their 20s and early 30s with plenty of free time and disposable cash. You can’t sit in Smugglers all day and I imagine on a night out you’re probably wary of getting your head pecked by people who don’t think you should be out on the píss. Even if you want to go shopping, what is there in town? Not even an H&M is there?

And that there is the big problem… we’d be Premier League if we had a H and M!

Quoted from Marinerdan

Strikers who score 32 goals in a season tend to have more options than players who score 8 in two.

Like I say money will be the biggest factor but a club being an hours drive from a players hometown is a big advantage too.

Well yeah, but every player had a home town once.

Football isn't like any industry where you say ooh I will go and play there because I like the area or its near my home town or good nightlife.

There are only 24 teams in league 2 which will attract league 2 standard players so that counts out most of the country for a start.

Then you have the small matter of a club actually wanting you, so that probably rules out a huge chunk of your preferred areas.

Now we are left with relatively few options so a player chooses the money, the manager the teams chances etc. Location will play a part for some but they wont have a wide choice.

Do you think Harry Clifton woke up one morning and thought Nailsworth sounds a nice place I will consider moving to FGR to play? He considered the money and chance to move higher up.

Do you think Scunthorpe attracted all those good players in their Championship years because of, er Scunthorpe?

We have had decades of attracting players from all over the country just like every other professional club and the more we progress and the higher we go the better those players will be.

I’m a bit surprised that Geography plays (allegedly) such a big part.
Just over 1 hours drive to Sheffield/Leeds. And not too much longer for Manchester.
I know they’re not on a fortune as such. But with the wages they do get they should be able to afford to commute. I love Meggies, but to be fair it’s not the most modern night out. But then if they want a night out it’s not to far to travel to the places mentioned above and a relatively cheap hotel.
It’s not like they’re out Fri Sat Sunday is it.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Maybe Andy Cannon could be on our radar? Obviously on loan at Stockport last season and not in Hull's plans.

So he's been fired.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Football isn't like any industry where you say ooh I will go and play there because I like the area

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Location will play a part for some

So in conclusion, location sometimes isn't a factor but sometimes it is.

Quoted from Son of Cod

So in conclusion, location sometimes isn't a factor but sometimes it is.

Are you Boris in disguise? Location doesn't matter but location does matter. Go to work but don't go to work... ;D

Quoted from ska face

It’s the same every year, but I can’t understand why people don’t get just how far behind the big cities GY/Clee are. That’s not to say the area is getting worse, but the big cities are getting better at a rate that detached, provincial towns just can’t keep up with.

These are generally young men in their 20s and early 30s with plenty of free time and disposable cash. You can’t sit in Smugglers all day and I imagine on a night out you’re probably wary of getting your head pecked by people who don’t think you should be out on the píss. Even if you want to go shopping, what is there in town? Not even an H&M is there?

This.

Look, we all love this town, but i'm not really sure why some people refuse to acknowledge that location plays a factor in attracting players. It's one of the most deprived areas in the country and geographically cut off. That can play a big factor in decision making for some players.

I can't understand why people don't see geography as a factor with regards to signings.

To say that players move across the UK all the time sweeps a very broad brush and doesn't capture the individual nature of player movements. What one player is prepared to do isn't the same for the player next to him.

What a player is prepared to do will no doubt factor a number of things. Family will be most notable and players with kids will undoubtedly be thinking about stability in terms of schools and friends. Wives/Gfs could very easily have sway in the decision making. Should either of those offer an issue then commute time becomes a factor, how much will it cost, how long will it take, how long would they be away from home, when will they see their family?

Of course not all players will have a family, in which case they may be interested in what the Town has to offer to keep them entertained, nightlife, activities, social scene etc etc. That will end up being personal opinion on the place so could be anywhere on the Longe-King scale from loving it to hating it.

Then of course there's the big factor in wages. But this has links to above, as a lower league club, do we offer wages that will support long commutes in fuel if necessary? Does it compensate for being away from home adequately? What is the reward/sacrifice ratio for the player as an individual in monetary terms? We could offer a great wage but if a large chunk will be spent on fuel then is it worth it to a player?

There's also what options the player has. How much would he be paid against whatever costs it would take to either commute/relocate. The best paid wage might not see him earn the most money. If I'm not mistaken wasn't this the case with Carl Magnay? He lift shared with three guys from Leeds who then all got released meaning he was on his own and they couldn't agree a wage/fuel expenses to make it viable for him so he went home to Hartlepool (area).

Relocation and moving around is an occupational hazard of a player, it can't be dismissed, but they are also humans like the rest of us who need to find some degree of stability and roots for their future. I spent 3 years living away from family during the week and only being home at the weekend due to being in the Forces and not wanting to drag them an hour and half away from home with the need to change schools, be away from family and support networks during the times I was out the country. We'd have saved a load of money (actually made more with renting house out) but the kids stability was more important to us. Obviously that's a different scenario to that of a professional footballer but I imagine the same thought processes go into making a decision of where they sign a contract.

I don't think Grimsby is an unattractive option for any player, especially at present where we are a Club on the up and could become a great place for a footballer of any age to play, but on the flip side, if/when a player is released there isn't a wide range of Clubs they could look to join without major changes, unlike your big city areas such as London, Manchester, Birmingham etc.

Quoted from Son of Cod

So in conclusion, location sometimes isn't a factor but sometimes it is.

Obviously location plays a part as I have repeatedly said. My point is that it applies to all locations for one reason or another and is not a specific Grimsby problem as so many other factors come into it.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Well yeah, but every player had a home town once.

Football isn't like any industry where you say ooh I will go and play there because I like the area or its near my home town or good nightlife.

There are only 24 teams in league 2 which will attract league 2 standard players so that counts out most of the country for a start.

Then you have the small matter of a club actually wanting you, so that probably rules out a huge chunk of your preferred areas.

Now we are left with relatively few options so a player chooses the money, the manager the teams chances etc. Location will play a part for some but they wont have a wide choice.

Do you think Harry Clifton woke up one morning and thought Nailsworth sounds a nice place I will consider moving to FGR to play? He considered the money and chance to move higher up.

Do you think Scunthorpe attracted all those good players in their Championship years because of, er Scunthorpe?

We have had decades of attracting players from all over the country just like every other professional club and the more we progress and the higher we go the better those players will be.

By that logic Harry should be a Forest Green player now. They are a league above and offered more money so why would he stay here?

Location is a huge factor at this level, with short term contracts and relatively modest salaries (compared to Prem and Championship). I wouldn't want to move my family 100's of miles for a one year contract and equally I wouldn't want to leave them for most of a year if I had a choice to work an hours drive from home.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

I can't understand why people don't see geography as a factor with regards to signings.

To say that players move across the UK all the time sweeps a very broad brush and doesn't capture the individual nature of player movements. What one player is prepared to do isn't the same for the player next to him.

What a player is prepared to do will no doubt factor a number of things. Family will be most notable and players with kids will undoubtedly be thinking about stability in terms of schools and friends. Wives/Gfs could very easily have sway in the decision making. Should either of those offer an issue then commute time becomes a factor, how much will it cost, how long will it take, how long would they be away from home, when will they see their family?

Of course not all players will have a family, in which case they may be interested in what the Town has to offer to keep them entertained, nightlife, activities, social scene etc etc. That will end up being personal opinion on the place so could be anywhere on the Longe-King scale from loving it to hating it.

Then of course there's the big factor in wages. But this has links to above, as a lower league club, do we offer wages that will support long commutes in fuel if necessary? Does it compensate for being away from home adequately? What is the reward/sacrifice ratio for the player as an individual in monetary terms? We could offer a great wage but if a large chunk will be spent on fuel then is it worth it to a player?

There's also what options the player has. How much would he be paid against whatever costs it would take to either commute/relocate. The best paid wage might not see him earn the most money. If I'm not mistaken wasn't this the case with Carl Magnay? He lift shared with three guys from Leeds who then all got released meaning he was on his own and they couldn't agree a wage/fuel expenses to make it viable for him so he went home to Hartlepool (area).

Relocation and moving around is an occupational hazard of a player, it can't be dismissed, but they are also humans like the rest of us who need to find some degree of stability and roots for their future. I spent 3 years living away from family during the week and only being home at the weekend due to being in the Forces and not wanting to drag them an hour and half away from home with the need to change schools, be away from family and support networks during the times I was out the country. We'd have saved a load of money (actually made more with renting house out) but the kids stability was more important to us. Obviously that's a different scenario to that of a professional footballer but I imagine the same thought processes go into making a decision of where they sign a contract.

I don't think Grimsby is an unattractive option for any player, especially at present where we are a Club on the up and could become a great place for a footballer of any age to play, but on the flip side, if/when a player is released there isn't a wide range of Clubs they could look to join without major changes, unlike your big city areas such as London, Manchester, Birmingham etc.

And those scenarios play out at every league 2 club for one reason or another.

Otis Khan moved from London to Grimsby. You cannot get a bigger change than that but other factors influenced him.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Obviously location plays a part as I have repeatedly said. My point is that it applies to all locations for one reason or another and is not a specific Grimsby problem as so many other factors come into it.

It's not a specific Grimsby problem no, but surely you're not denying that we're further down the pecking order than Cambridge for most players?

Quoted from Civvy at last

I’m a bit surprised that Geography plays (allegedly) such a big part.
Just over 1 hours drive to Sheffield/Leeds. And not too much longer for Manchester.
I know they’re not on a fortune as such. But with the wages they do get they should be able to afford to commute. I love Meggies, but to be fair it’s not the most modern night out. But then if they want a night out it’s not to far to travel to the places mentioned above and a relatively cheap hotel.
It’s not like they’re out Fri Sat Sunday is it.

I'm not sure what speed or time of day you whizz along the M62 to travel between Grimsby and Manc in not much longer than an hour. It's like a car park most mornings and evenings midweek - there is no way that is commutable on a regular basis.

It's not necessarily about the nightlife because they shouldn't be going out every night getting sh*tfaced anyway. It's the lack of day life in the Grimsby area too. Yes, I know there are things to do, but probably not the sort of activities young twentysomethings will seek.

Most coastal Teams are disadvantaged to a degree as realistic catchment/travelling area is halved

Have a look at Grimsby on a map and see if you can spot any reason it might have a smaller catchment area of people within a one hour drive than Mansfield or Northampton. Clue - the reason is to the East.

Quoted from Son of Cod

It's not a specific Grimsby problem no, but surely you're not denying that we're further down the pecking order than Cambridge for most players?

Of course I am! Otherwise Cambridge Torquay and Harrogate would be in the higher echelons of the pyramid if the only factor was how nice a place was.

Martin Gritton was transferred to Grimsby from Torquay and he didn't do it because he preferred Grimsby as a place, only that it benefited his career at the time.

Most Vale and Stoke players live out in leafy posh Cheshire 30 mins from Manchester/Stoke, trust me you never see them on a night out/Sunday lunch/shopping in Newcastle U Lyme or Burslem/Hanley, theyre in Wilmslow/Alderly Edge and Manchester. Location matters to a lot of players.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

And those scenarios play out at every league 2 club for one reason or another.

Otis Khan moved from London to Grimsby. You cannot get a bigger change than that but other factors influenced him.

This is a very true statement - in Otis Khans case.

That comes round again to what one player will accept to the next player. Otis Khan said yes, how many other London based players have said 'No' that we're none the wiser of? Could be none, could be a lengthy list.

I don't think those who are disagreeing with you mean that geography is everything, it can't be, but it has limitations. You mentioned about it being a scenario for all L2 teams, but I'd suggest if you sign for Salford, Tranmere, Stockport, Rochdale, then you have options within that geographical area should it not work out without the need for dramatically extended commutes. Same for Wimbledon, Crawley, Leyton Orient with London.

With Otis Khan, he may have the capability to commute from London and what he plans to do. But I'd argue that carries risk, if he doesn't play or gets fed up of driving/being out of London half the week then will he push for a move back south? He holds an element of power in that scenario as would it be beneficial to our wider reputation if we hold players against their will in a scenario like that? We've seen it before.

If he's relocated because he doesn't like commuting then that's great for us, but when he inevitably moves on that's another relocation if he doesn't want to commute. If he changes his mind on commuting then how many options are available inside a 1 hour window as opposed to being in Manchester?

There are so many if & buts involved and I agree entirely that finances, manager, reputation etc will also be large parts of the thinking but I don't think geography can be easily dismissed as a non-factor or a low down factor. It's importance will differ for each player and we just have to hope we're lucky that the pool of available players are more willing to leave/commute from club-rich geographical areas to make us more attractive/competitive option than the ones closer to home.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Of course I am! Otherwise Cambridge Torquay and Harrogate would be in the higher echelons of the pyramid if the only factor was how nice a place was.

Nobody has said it's the only factor?

what this discussion does show is how necessary it is for us to offer something more , and then we come back to the 1878 'culture'. Word will get round very quickly that the club is offering a much more welcoming environment, that players are going to get looked after properly etc etc

Quoted from gtfc_chris

This is a very true statement - in Otis Khans case.

That comes round again to what one player will accept to the next player. Otis Khan said yes, how many other London based players have said 'No' that we're none the wiser of? Could be none, could be a lengthy list.

I don't think those who are disagreeing with you mean that geography is everything, it can't be, but it has limitations. You mentioned about it being a scenario for all L2 teams, but I'd suggest if you sign for Salford, Tranmere, Stockport, Rochdale, then you have options within that geographical area should it not work out without the need for dramatically extended commutes. Same for Wimbledon, Crawley, Leyton Orient with London.

With Otis Khan, he may have the capability to commute from London and what he plans to do. But I'd argue that carries risk, if he doesn't play or gets fed up of driving/being out of London half the week then will he push for a move back south? He holds an element of power in that scenario as would it be beneficial to our wider reputation if we hold players against their will in a scenario like that? We've seen it before.

If he's relocated because he doesn't like commuting then that's great for us, but when he inevitably moves on that's another relocation if he doesn't want to commute. If he changes his mind on commuting then how many options are available inside a 1 hour window as opposed to being in Manchester?

There are so many if & buts involved and I agree entirely that finances, manager, reputation etc will also be large parts of the thinking but I don't think geography can be easily dismissed as a non-factor or a low down factor. It's importance will differ for each player and we just have to hope we're lucky that the pool of available players are more willing to leave/commute from club-rich geographical areas to make us more attractive/competitive option than the ones closer to home.

Looking at Otis Khan he came through the academy at Sheffield United and has spent most (not all) of his career in and around South Yorkshire/North Notts. He’s only been in London a year.

I wonder if this is an occasion where location has worked in our favour?

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Most Vale and Stoke players live out in leafy posh Cheshire 30 mins from Manchester/Stoke, trust me you never see them on a night out/Sunday lunch/shopping in Newcastle U Lyme or Burslem/Hanley, theyre in Wilmslow/Alderly Edge and Manchester. Location matters to a lot of players.

Well I dont suppose our players who live in Grimsby live near my old haunt in the East Marsh do they?

Max Crocombe lives in our village I will have to ask him how he is finding it.

This thread has taken a strange turn

It’s great that we’re commutable from Sheff, Leeds, Nottm etc but have you seen the cost of fuel? Footballers aren’t immune to the extra costs.

We've always had a lot of players come from clubs in Sheffield/East Midlands/West Yorkshire. Perfectly understandable as it's certainly better to get a job closer to family and friends rather than having to relocate.

It is certainly one of the ways that smaller clubs in the South East or the Manchester/Lancashire/Merseyside areas have benefitted over the years. The best young players try their luck at the big clubs and, when they don't quite make it there, it's handy to have lower division options right on the doorstep.

I take it there are no rumours then?

By the time we get a rumour Lurpak will be more expensive than diesel.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

This is a very true statement - in Otis Khans case.

That comes round again to what one player will accept to the next player. Otis Khan said yes, how many other London based players have said 'No' that we're none the wiser of? Could be none, could be a lengthy list.

I don't think those who are disagreeing with you mean that geography is everything, it can't be, but it has limitations. You mentioned about it being a scenario for all L2 teams, but I'd suggest if you sign for Salford, Tranmere, Stockport, Rochdale, then you have options within that geographical area should it not work out without the need for dramatically extended commutes. Same for Wimbledon, Crawley, Leyton Orient with London.

With Otis Khan, he may have the capability to commute from London and what he plans to do. But I'd argue that carries risk, if he doesn't play or gets fed up of driving/being out of London half the week then will he push for a move back south? He holds an element of power in that scenario as would it be beneficial to our wider reputation if we hold players against their will in a scenario like that? We've seen it before.

If he's relocated because he doesn't like commuting then that's great for us, but when he inevitably moves on that's another relocation if he doesn't want to commute. If he changes his mind on commuting then how many options are available inside a 1 hour window as opposed to being in Manchester?

There are so many if & buts involved and I agree entirely that finances, manager, reputation etc will also be large parts of the thinking but I don't think geography can be easily dismissed as a non-factor or a low down factor. It's importance will differ for each player and we just have to hope we're lucky that the pool of available players are more willing to leave/commute from club-rich geographical areas to make us more attractive/competitive option than the ones closer to home.

Well in this close season we have signed a player from one of the nicest places in the UK Harrogate. We have signed one within spitting distance of big cities Halifax and one from London.

All individual cases, all with their unique reasons but people still say players will not come to Grimsby which has been shown to be demonstrably untrue this season and all previous seasons.

I agree with the poster who said the better our reputation as a club improves even more players will be swayed but we even got players, some good players like say Connell from all over the UK and abroad in our darkest days under Fenty.

Now can we return to rumours please.

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

Now can we return to rumours please.

Nobody’s stopping you - have you got any?

Quoted from LH

It’s great that we’re commutable from Sheff, Leeds, Nottm etc but have you seen the cost of fuel? Footballers aren’t immune to the extra costs.

Yeah i've worked out it's gonna cost me over £500 (at current prices) in petrol just to drive from my house to all our home games and back this season. If you're a player coming in from Yorkshire for training 4 times a week you can add another £2k+ onto that - definitely a massive factor for potential signings considering a move here.

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

Now can we return to rumours please.

Absolutely not, we need to rank all the towns/cities in the top 5 divisions by niceness.

Quoted from Marinerdan

Looking at Otis Khan he came through the academy at Sheffield United and has spent most (not all) of his career in and around South Yorkshire/North Notts. He’s only been in London a year.

I wonder if this is an occasion where location has worked in our favour?

It probably did. But that was also the case for all the many hundreds of Town players who have signed for the Mariners over the decades from all corners of the UK and abroad. The furthest I can think of is Canada (Whymark) and the nearest Scunthorpe and all places in between.

Edit. China of course.

Edit. New Zealand.

But of course players dont want to come to Grimsby. I am glad our owners have more faith in Grimsby than some of our fans.

Zhang Enhua came all the way from China to play for us, so location isn't a problem. Southampton, Brighton, Liverpool, Everton, Swansea, Cardiff etc., are all coastal towns or estuary based like us and their locations are not a problem

While you cannot compare the activities in larger cities to what we have to offer a perspective player, what we want are players who put their desire to play football, to enhance their career and our club's fortunes.

Quoted from Marinerdan

Looking at Otis Khan he came through the academy at Sheffield United and has spent most (not all) of his career in and around South Yorkshire/North Notts. He’s only been in London a year.

I wonder if this is an occasion where location has worked in our favour?

Chances could be quite high I reckon. I'm sure someone mentioned previously the amount of Clubs he's had so far and that he did well at Yeovil but didn't settle. Was that geographical, hence a move east? Leyton Orient also not so great as a commute/cost of living to relocate so back up North?

Again, there's no 'one shoe fits all' way of looking at it and I'd say your point is one where geography has played a part in us being a better option than any other options he had further south (if he had any at all).

Quoted from DB

Zhang Enhua came all the way from China to play for us*, so location isn't a problem.

*For a reported £10K per week, in 2000. Over £18K a week in today's money.

I wouldn't have a problem moving overseas for a job earning me the best part of a million a year, either!

Quoted from NorthseaMariner

Now can we return to rumours please.

Ryley Towler is wanted on loan by six clubs - FGR (no Nando's), Cheltenham (1 Nando's + DEYA Brewery), Morecambe (No Nando's), Salford (16 Nando's), Tranmere (6 Nando's) and Lincoln (six fingered hando's).

Quoted from DB

Zhang Enhua came all the way from China to play for us, so location isn't a problem. Southampton, Brighton, Liverpool, Everton, Swansea, Cardiff etc., are all coastal towns or estuary based like us and their locations are not a problem

We were paying him 10k a week (which is equivalent to over £15k a week now accounting for inflation) - location obviously is going to be less of an issue when you're chucking money around like that. You lot suggesting location isn't actually a big deal need to stop using occasional outliers to frame your arguments.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

But of course players dont want to come to Grimsby. I am glad our owners have more faith in Grimsby than some of our fans.

Again, nobody is saying that. You've said all scenarios are unique but then you've also highlighted Martin Gritton and Max Crombe as mic drop/case closed examples. There isn't a single person contributing to this conversation that is saying that there aren't players that will make a decision based purely off money/career aspirations - there most definitely are. But if you think our location doesn't hamper us on at at least some of the deals we attempt then your head is buried in the sand.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Ryley Towler is wanted on loan by six clubs - FGR (no Nando's), Cheltenham (1 Nando's + DEYA Brewery), Morecambe (No Nando's), Salford (16 Nando's), Tranmere (6 Nando's) and Lincoln (six fingered hando's).

Been disappointed with the last few DEYAs I've had. Think they peaked last summer when they were knocking out all those 6%ish IPAs. Absolute delicious danger beers.

Quoted from Chrisblor

We were paying him 10k a week (which is equivalent to over £15k a week now accounting for inflation) - location obviously is going to be less of an issue when you're chucking money around like that. You lot suggesting location isn't actually a big deal need to stop using occasional outliers to frame your arguments.

Yeah but what about Jason Batty and Hamish Watson.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Well in this close season we have signed a player from one of the nicest places in the UK Harrogate. We have signed one within spitting distance of big cities Halifax and one from London.

All individual cases, all with their unique reasons but people still say players will not come to Grimsby which has been shown to be demonstrably untrue this season and all previous seasons.

I agree with the poster who said the better our reputation as a club improves even more players will be swayed but we even got players, some good players like say Connell from all over the UK and abroad in our darkest days under Fenty.

Yes but of course we're always going to sign players, there would be a major issue if we didn't sign any at all.

But let's just say there is a lad from Brighton who's just been released from their academy. He's spent his entire life down south. He has Grimsby Town, Salford and Crawley trying to sign him. We offer him £1.2k a week but he has to sort himself out for accomodation/travel. Salford offer him £1k a week under the same terms. Crawley offer him £800 a week but will pay his fuel.

Now that's a completely fictional (yet plausible) scenario and very definitive too, I think we all accept that it isn't as straightforward as that but will be within some semblance of reality. Financially, we're the better option, we're gonna give him £800 a month more than Salford, £1600 more than Crawley. But his compromise is moving away from home for the first time and being isolated from everything he knows in a small town in the middle of nowhere. Salford is in Manchester, so although he's on less money, he still has to move away but he might have ambitions of being in a vibrant city with more Clubs in the area should the move not work out. Crawley is less money contract wise but they'll pay his fuel meaning he can stay at home, so although he'll certainly earn less than at Grimsby, he'll probably be about the same as Salford as far as salary goes.

Each one has pro's and con's. Every footballer will have differing priorities that affects their decisions. Using nothing but the criteria above some would opt for closer to home and sacrifice earning, some would opt for the City life and some would opt for the bigger contract. Standard wise and reputation wise there probably isn't a great deal separating the Clubs so finance and location become the driving factors and it becomes each to their own.

We'll have lost players because of it and we'll have gained players for it. I'm not arguing that we can't recruit players because of location, I'm suggesting that it is a bigger factor than some give credit for.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Again, nobody is saying that. You've said all scenarios are unique but then you've also highlighted Martin Gritton and Max Crombe as mic drop/case closed examples. There isn't a single person contributing to this conversation that is saying that there aren't players that will make a decision based purely off money/career aspirations - there most definitely are. But if you think our location doesn't hamper us on at at least some of the deals we attempt then your head is buried in the sand.

Been disappointed with the last few DEYAs I've had. Think they peaked last summer when they were knocking out all those 6%ish IPAs. Absolute delicious danger beers.

Yes but dont seem to want to understand that location difficulties works both ways which is my point. Of course we will lose players to location (or many other issues) but we will also gain many others as referenced by the hundreds if not thousands of players who have signed for us during good and bad times.

It is all relevant to the division and cycle we are in and in better times we get better players, but whatever the league we are in players of that quality do not have a huge choice of clubs as they cannot pick and choose who might want to sign them.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Yes but dont seem to want to understand that location difficulties works both ways which is my point. Of course we will lose players to location (or many other issues) but we will also gain many others as referenced by the hundreds if not thousands of players who have signed for us during good and bad times.

It is all relevant to the division and cycle we are in and in better times we get better players, but whatever the league we are in players of that quality do not have a huge choice of clubs as they cannot pick and choose who might want to sign them.

Yes, there will be some players where we gain from our location (Gary Croft, Ben Davies and (almost) Ryan Bennett spring to mind) but it will be weighted heavily the other way.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

Yes, there will be some players where we gain from our location (Gary Croft, Ben Davies and (almost) Ryan Bennett spring to mind) but it will be weighted heavily the other way.

Why will it?? Those examples (and other local examples) would account for 0.0001% of the number of players we have signed over the decades. We only need to sign a squad of players and we have managed to do that every single season by signing players from all over the UK and abroad since 1963 when I started going.

There is only a small pool of clubs that will employ players of a certain standard so they don't have the luxury of picking and choosing a club that ticks every box, unless they are really sought after and can choose between a few clubs, but then it would (mostly) come down to money and terms.

Fu(k me! The way this thread, and others go on, we've got the next load of government on here. Everyone seems to know what everyone wants, how the demographic situation of the country works and we've got more mystic megs than a night out watching Clinton baptiste.

Players will.come and go as they please. Money and location will be a major factor as will 'knowing people' at the club to help them settle.

Now, has cesc signed yet? Ibrahimovic spotted playing bubble bobble in the emi? Diego costa in little smiths telling a bloke the reels on tupenny nudger? Cavani having a pint in the p&m ?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Why will it?? Those examples (and other local examples) would account for 0.0001% of the number of players we have signed over the decades. We only need to sign a squad of players and we have managed to do that every single season by signing players from all over the UK and abroad since 1963 when I started going.

There is only a small pool of clubs that will employ players of a certain standard so they don't have the luxury of picking and choosing a club that ticks every box, unless they are really sought after and can choose between a few clubs, but then it would (mostly) come down to money and terms.

Because a one hour commute east would leave you in the middle of the North Sea.

Quoted from gtfc_chris

Yes but of course we're always going to sign players, there would be a major issue if we didn't sign any at all.

But let's just say there is a lad from Brighton who's just been released from their academy. He's spent his entire life down south. He has Grimsby Town, Salford and Crawley trying to sign him. We offer him £1.2k a week but he has to sort himself out for accomodation/travel. Salford offer him £1k a week under the same terms. Crawley offer him £800 a week but will pay his fuel.

Now that's a completely fictional (yet plausible) scenario and very definitive too, I think we all accept that it isn't as straightforward as that but will be within some semblance of reality. Financially, we're the better option, we're gonna give him £800 a month more than Salford, £1600 more than Crawley. But his compromise is moving away from home for the first time and being isolated from everything he knows in a small town in the middle of nowhere. Salford is in Manchester, so although he's on less money, he still has to move away but he might have ambitions of being in a vibrant city with more Clubs in the area should the move not work out. Crawley is less money contract wise but they'll pay his fuel meaning he can stay at home, so although he'll certainly earn less than at Grimsby, he'll probably be about the same as Salford as far as salary goes.

Each one has pro's and con's. Every footballer will have differing priorities that affects their decisions. Using nothing but the criteria above some would opt for closer to home and sacrifice earning, some would opt for the City life and some would opt for the bigger contract. Standard wise and reputation wise there probably isn't a great deal separating the Clubs so finance and location become the driving factors and it becomes each to their own.

We'll have lost players because of it and we'll have gained players for it. I'm not arguing that we can't recruit players because of location, I'm suggesting that it is a bigger factor than some give credit for.

Yes, but can't you see that works in reverse? "A young lad is released by Leeds' academy..."

My point is similar to yours actually - it is not location (Grimsby) per see, it is all the other factors that go with it.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Yes, but can't you see that works in reverse? "A young lad is released by Leeds' academy..."

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...and has offers from York City, Harrogate, Barnsley, huddersfield, Rotherham, Hull City, Doncaster and Halifax as well as us.

;)

Quoted from sam gy

...and has offers from York City, Harrogate, Barnsley, huddersfield, Rotherham, Hull City, Doncaster and Halifax as well as us.

;)

Very good, but I think there are more clubs down south than Crawley!

Unfortunately I think Gy is still suffering a hangover from Sacha Baron Cohen's ridiculous film.

Only on Sunday morning, when telling someone who I'd met for the first time that I grew up in Grimsby, his condescending and uneducated response was: "Grimsby? I saw the Baron Cohen film. What a shithole."

Feeling jaded and sleep deprived, I couldnt even be bothered to tell him it was fiction, rather than a documentary, and was actually filmed in Tilbury.

Having heard his views on Brixton, where he used to live, I think I'd have been wasting my time any way.

I do fear that the place that I'm proud to call my home town is still tarred by the brush of this film and its hackneyed characters.

I wouldn't be surprised if equally gullible players, and more importantly their wife's and girlfriend's, are put off moving to the area because of this unfair reputation.

If you search Grimsby on Google, this film is still one of the first results.

Soul destroying if this does play a part in recruitment, or lack of, as Grimsby/Cleethorpes is Paris in Spring compared to Stevange, Crawley, Swindon, Luton, (insert your own soulless southern commuter town).

Jesus this is painful. Do you think there are more professional footballers currently within a one hour journey of:

a) Crawley
b) Leyton Orient
c) Mansfield
d) Salford
e) Northampton
f) Grimsby

Does that mean Grimsby is a worse place to live than the others? No

Might a 24 year old footballer generally find the idea of living in Grimsby less than appealing than living in Manchester, London or Birmingham? Yes

Does that mean nobody will want to play for us? No

Does it mean a higher percentage of potential players might have to move house to join us than Salford or Leyton Orient? Yes

Does that mean we might have a greater challenge at times because persuading someone to move house/leave family/change the school their kids go to for a 2 year contract isn't easy? Yes

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Fu(k me! The way this thread, and others go on, we've got the next load of government on here. Everyone seems to know what everyone wants, how the demographic situation of the country works and we've got more mystic megs than a night out watching Clinton baptiste.

Players will.come and go as they please. Money and location will be a major factor as will 'knowing people' at the club to help them settle.

Now, has cesc signed yet? Ibrahimovic spotted playing bubble bobble in the emi? Diego costa in little smiths telling a bloke the reels on tupenny nudger? Cavani having a pint in the p&m ?

I always thought politics was simple ? . If you're working class do not vote conservative. 😂

Pay the money and they will come. Simple. I just don’t think that’s the Paul Hurst model. I don’t think he’ll be prepared to pay one or two players considerably more than the rest of the squad. It does cos issues when there a a select few on higher wages than everyone else. Seen it myself, different line of work but divisive none the less.

This thread has been hijacked so many times it's just ridiculous! It's now the length of a short novel and the actual realistic rumours content is less than a short story!

Quoted from TonySmith

This thread has been hijacked so many times it's just ridiculous! It's now the length of a short novel and the actual realistic rumours content is less than a short story!

I've tried to spice it up on numerous occasions 😂😂

Quoted from TonySmith

This thread has been hijacked so many times it's just ridiculous! It's now the length of a short novel and the actual realistic rumours content is less than a short story!

The Season Ticket thread has also pushed past short story and heading for a novel length mainly from the debate about how just how many feckin seats there are in Blundell Park...

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

The Season Ticket thread has also pushed past short story and heading for a novel length mainly from the debate about how just how many feckin seats there are in Blundell Park...

It's brilliant though . I'm waiting for a live stream of someone counting them all 😂

Quoted from TonySmith

This thread has been hijacked so many times it's just ridiculous! It's now the length of a short novel and the actual realistic rumours content is less than a short story!

I blame the lack of rumours.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

The Season Ticket thread has also pushed past short story and heading for a novel length mainly from the debate about how just how many feckin seats there are in Blundell Park...

How many seats are there?

;D

Quoted from Southwark Mariner

How many seats are there?

;D

Debbie quoted 9032 the other week...

On the seating plan there are;-

2441 in Main
1828 in Pontoon
1699 in Upper
811 in Lower

Thats 6779

9032 - 6779 = 2253

- 1800 ? in Osmond = 453

Block D of Upper and the Posh Boxes must then have 453 seats.

So 9032 sounds about right.

Simples.

Whoever mentioned deya…… rolling man is the best beer theyve done. But, it’s the same as a lot of these smaller breweries, the fact that they want to grow (understandably) but sometimes the quality and uniqueness of them is left by the wayside. Northern monk, cloudwater, marble, left handed giant have all done the same, in my opinion.

If you like some decent unique beer, try gritchie and tiny rebel.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Whoever mentioned deya…… rolling man is the best beer theyve done. But, it’s the same as a lot of these smaller breweries, the fact that they want to grow (understandably) but sometimes the quality and uniqueness of them is left by the wayside. Northern monk, cloudwater, marble, left handed giant have all done the same, in my opinion.

If you like some decent unique beer, gritchie and tiny rebel are rumoured to be better

Altered to keep the thread on course

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

You are right in some cases of course, but equally some players dont want to be anywhere near a big city; in any event cities for night life should not be their number one concern (!) but they will have mates all over the country so will no doubt have nights out in cities away from where they play.

I don't think league 2 players have a huge choice between cities and provincial towns; only perhaps two or three clubs want or need any particular player, and it is hardly a choice of Monte carlo or Grimsby is it?

Money will be the overriding factor; with all due respect to Wrexham, Paul Mullin didn't go to Wrexham for the big city vibe did he?

Some players dont fancy Grimsby, just like they dont fancy Stevenage or Carlisle or Hartlepool but nonetheless we sign players from all over the UK, and indeed abroad if the money / terms are good enough. We may have lost some but we will gain others.

Money is only an overriding factor when the offer is ridiculous. Mullin had Hollywood A-listers blowing smoke up his behind and throwing money at him, nobody would turn that down. He's also at the peak of his career so will probably never get another chance for that kind of money after the Wrexham gravy train ends. In very few cases will there be a bidding war where people are throwing ridiculous money at a player in L2 so it often comes down to location way more than you might think. Regardless of what you think should and should not be their concern I think we need to accept that in some cases perspective signings will not see it as a good fit compared to something like Stockport where they can still live in Manchester or any club in and around London. Your nearest places here for any sort of day or night out that is appealing to anyone under the age of 45 is probably an hour or so away drive. At least if you sign for Stevenage you can live in London and have more happening around you. The main appeal here is there are nice places to settle down with a family and it's by the sea, or you already live in Sheffield/Rotherham so it's close enough to commute while not having to move.

There is a reason people in Sheffield call Cleethorpes "Rotherham by the sea".

Tyreik Wright from Aston Villa is someone we’re trying to get in. Although we aren’t the only league two side after him, likely to be a loan.

Quoted from Surrey97

Tyreik Wright from Aston Villa is someone we’re trying to get in. Although we aren’t the only league two side after him, likely to be a loan.

What’s that hot to do with Nando’s?

Quoted from HerveJosse

What’s that hot to do with Nando’s?

Did you know that wings roulette was created by some lads from meggies/Grimsby

Quoted from HerveJosse

What’s that hot to do with Nando’s?

See what you’ve done there 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

But when has Portuguese peri peri spiced South African food with a decent taste and friendly welcome ever got you 3 flame grilled points on a Saturday

Quoted from Surrey97

Tyreik Wright from Aston Villa is someone we’re trying to get in. Although we aren’t the only league two side after him, likely to be a loan.

Oo-er! An actual rumour.

Another winger. :-/

Quoted from ginnywings

Oo-er! An actual rumour.

Another winger. :-/

Right, we need to someone on his socials to find out if he's a seaside, city or rural guy. We need to find out who is else is in for him so we can contact any Town fans in the area so they can make Tinder/Grindr accounts with his pics. And we need a full breakdown of all the shops/restaurants in each area (obviously paying close attention to Nando's).

Quoted from Surrey97

Tyreik Wright from Aston Villa is someone we’re trying to get in. Although we aren’t the only league two side after him, likely to be a loan.

What on earth do you think you're doing?

This isn't a rumour thread you know...

Quoted from Kris2

Money is only an overriding factor when the offer is ridiculous. Mullin had Hollywood A-listers blowing smoke up his behind and throwing money at him, nobody would turn that down. He's also at the peak of his career so will probably never get another chance for that kind of money after the Wrexham gravy train ends. In very few cases will there be a bidding war where people are throwing ridiculous money at a player in L2 so it often comes down to location way more than you might think. Regardless of what you think should and should not be their concern I think we need to accept that in some cases perspective signings will not see it as a good fit compared to something like Stockport where they can still live in Manchester or any club in and around London. Your nearest places here for any sort of day or night out that is appealing to anyone under the age of 45 is probably an hour or so away drive. At least if you sign for Stevenage you can live in London and have more happening around you. The main appeal here is there are nice places to settle down with a family and it's by the sea, or you already live in Sheffield/Rotherham so it's close enough to commute while not having to move.

There is a reason people in Sheffield call Cleethorpes "Rotherham by the sea".

We agree that Mullin went to Wrexham for the money. The amount is immaterial. The same will be said for many signings where money offered will offset any perceived worries about location as indeed we have done in the past, as I said in my original post which you quoted.

People will be relieved I cannot add anything further apart from every player of the thousands we have signed was under 45 and managed to make social arrangements whilst playing for the Mariners. I must say if you think the primary concern for players is what the nightlife is like you are a long way off the mark - most professionals are dedicated to the profession but even if they do stray they can still have a good time in Cleethorpes (Ryan Sears!) or any other nightlife hotspot with their mates. Our players have always come from all over the country and will continue to do so.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Did you know that wings roulette was created by some lads from meggies/Grimsby

Sauce?

Quoted from HerveJosse

Sauce?

I’d tell you but I’d bottle it

Quoted from Surrey97

Tyreik Wright from Aston Villa is someone we’re trying to get in. Although we aren’t the only league two side after him, likely to be a loan.

Hope not, these kind of loans rarely work in the way you want them to. Prefer that we focus on permanent signings rather than stop gaps.

Quoted from davmariner

Hope not, these kind of loans rarely work in the way you want them to. Prefer that we focus on permanent signings rather than stop gaps.

Yeahbut to be fair Dav the fella from, I think , Coventry who came on loan definitely contributed last season. Started slow, then got a few goals, assists, penalties but then went sour after he got sent off against Altrincham. He definitely won us a fee points during his purple patch, even if it didn't work out fully in the end.

[quote=799]

Oo-er! An actual rumour.

Another winger. :-/[/quote

Possibly to replace the Peri(patetic) Portuguese Wing(er) we tried last year. Build up was good but final kick was missing.

Quoted from HerveJosse

[quote=799]

Oo-er! An actual rumour.

Another winger. :-/[/quote

Possibly to replace the Peri(patetic) Portuguese Wing(er) we tried last year. Build up was good but final kick was missing.

We've already replaced him with Khan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyreik_Wright

Take this with a massive pinch of salt.

Had a friend tell me we are after a young winger from Brentford named Jesus Galindo.

Nothing on the internet about him, anyone aware of him?

Quoted from JMT

Take this with a massive pinch of salt.

Had a friend tell me we are after a young winger from Brentford named Jesus Galindo.

Nothing on the internet about him, anyone aware of him?

Only thing I heard is that he has a heavenly touch with a stable run of play and has recently resurrected his career.

Not a bad cross on him too.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

What on earth do you think you're doing?

This isn't a rumour thread you know...

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

Stephen McKenna from QPR

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Stephen McKenna from QPR

Inbound? Loan? Rumour? Source?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Stephen McKenna from QPR

Having never had a correct rumour in the 14 delightful years I’ve known him, Woz sits comfortably at the bottom of the transfer rumour table. Sorry, I don’t make the rules!

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Stephen McKenna from QPR

I hope so, cracking winger. Has just gone on QPR’s tour of Germany though.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Stephen McKenna from QPR

One Torquay fan said:
Duke McKenna who was head and shoulders above every other player on the pitch and literally ran rings around most of the Aldershot players

Only 21, sounds a good prospect

Quoted from ska face

Having never had a correct rumour in the 14 delightful years I’ve known him, Woz sits comfortably at the bottom of the transfer rumour table. Sorry, I don’t make the rules!

I gotta be right sometime mate. Was just looking at players progressing through divisions in positions that we need sorting.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

I gotta be right sometime mate. Was just looking at players progressing through divisions in positions that we need sorting.

So a name plucked out of thin air, dressed up as a rumour. Classic fishy 😂

I’ve heard absolutely nothing recently and everything I’ve heard from one source has been 100% true, that concerns me slightly given we need 6 maybe 7 faces in approximately 2 weeks

Quoted from Grimsby2012

Only thing I heard is that he has a heavenly touch with a stable run of play and has recently resurrected his career.

Not a bad cross on him too.

But would our manger get the best out of him?

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’ve heard absolutely nothing recently and everything I’ve heard from one source has been 100% true, that concerns me slightly given we need 6 maybe 7 faces in approximately 2 weeks

It's just a game of poker with a lot of players and very few clubs. Players will start to lower their expectations to get fixed up.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It's just a game of poker with a lot of players and very few clubs. Players will start to lower their expectations to get fixed up.

But given the shorter turnaround before the new season starts, there's probably more urgency for clubs to get their squad together. Which will improve the player's negotiating hand

Loan signings tend to come in later . We are working from a stronger base this year (with the exception of centre mid) so if quality is to be improved it’s more likely to be loan signings from higher up the pyramid so I am not concerned yet.

I don't seem to remember us having our squad sorted early last summer but we topped the table after 11-12 games and went on to win promotion.

It's the usual annual panic over nothing. I'd like to see a correlation between early signings and promotion.

Wrexham and Chesterfield were pretty early in making their big signings last season. Didn't do them much good, ultimately.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Loan signings tend to come in later . We are working from a stronger base this year (with the exception of centre mid) so if quality is to be improved it’s more likely to be loan signings from higher up the pyramid so I am not concerned yet.

Yes. Plus, as others have said, the parent clubs will want players involved in their pre-season training and friendlies to assess whether to retain, loan out or grind into wallpaper paste.

Quoted from RichMariner

I don't seem to remember us having our squad sorted early last summer but we topped the table after 11-12 games and went on to win promotion.

It's the usual annual panic over nothing. I'd like to see a correlation between early signings and promotion.

Wrexham and Chesterfield were pretty early in making their big signings last season. Didn't do them much good, ultimately.

I’d disagree, we made the bulk of our signings early doors last year from memory.

On top of that, we didn’t have a transfer window to contend with, time is more pressing this year.

I’d be surprised if Hurst hadn’t hoped for more in by this point

i'd be surprised if there are any incoming this week. Hurst and the team are in Tenerife, which might be the ideal place, far away from prying eyes, to bed in a couple of new faces

Quoted from pontoonlew

I’d disagree, we made the bulk of our signings early doors last year from memory.

On top of that, we didn’t have a transfer window to contend with, time is more pressing this year.

I’d be surprised if Hurst hadn’t hoped for more in by this point

I agree.

Quoted from forza ivano

i'd be surprised if there are any incoming this week. Hurst and the team are in Tenerife, which might be the ideal place, far away from prying eyes, to bed in a couple of new faces

they go next week i believe

Quoted from forza ivano

i'd be surprised if there are any incoming this week. Hurst and the team are in Tenerife, which might be the ideal place, far away from prying eyes, to bed in a couple of new faces

They go after the Lincoln game, returning less than a week before the season starts. I’d be pretty disappointed if there aren’t some more in before then.

Why do we have to be challenging? To be honest I thought we would still be in the NL for at least another season. I would be happy, happyclapping a mid table finish this season, seeing what’s what with the league and then looking to improve again the season after.

The business this summer so far has been fine. We will improve the centre of midfield when improvements are available. I am as concerned as anyone about that one area, but the rest IMO is more than adequate for a year in L2 not having to worry about slipping down again.

Quoted from quebec38

Why do we have to be challenging? To be honest I thought we would still be in the NL for at least another season. I would be happy, happyclapping a mid table finish this season, seeing what’s what with the league and then looking to improve again the season after.

The business this summer so far has been fine. We will improve the centre of midfield when improvements are available. I am as concerned as anyone about that one area, but the rest IMO is more than adequate for a year in L2 not having to worry about slipping down again.

I’d be very surprised if a businessman of the calibre of Jason would want to squander the momentum of the last few months with a quiet mid table season.

I'd imagine he'll not be putting any pressure on, trusting Hurst and seeing what happens. That approach seemed to work well for us last season :)

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’d be very surprised if a businessman of the calibre of Jason would want to squander the momentum of the last few months with a quiet mid table season.

Ok, so get promoted this season. Then not want to squander the momentum again next season and get promoted from league one? So Premier League football in 4 years?

I love the owners but football isn’t about not wanting to squander momentum. Some people need a reality check.

I don’t think it’s a totally unfair observation to suggest that, as of right now, the recruitment that’s taken place doesn’t quite align with all of the positive things happening to the club financially right now. However, I’d describe the situation as frustrating, from the perspective of the average fan, rather than concerning.

If the squad is still in something like it’s current guise on 30th July then that would be mildly concerning, and more so come the end of August. But I still remain confident that it won’t be, and so it’s a bit early to be making any sweeping judgements.

Quoted from Superdan147

Well over 5000 season ticket holders, around 2000 extra than normal, promotion back into the league and the extra revenue that brings (stockwood himself said around 1 million) , the new myenergi deal that’s worth more than what youngs ever gave. Shirt sales look set to be as high as they’ve ever been before also (1000 selling within days)

And yet here we are almost half way through pre season needing a new keeper , a new centre back to replace longe king, at least 2 new central midfielders, possibly a left winger and a centre forward. 6 players. Much talk about a higher playing budget, (confirmed as true) yet we are scratching around it seems whilst many others in our league have already secured some very impressive signings.

Perhaps our budget is larger than previous, but might it be that it’s only competitive to the likes of Rochdale and barrow?

Perhaps it’s our reputation, we’ve either been a lower end league two club, or non league club for the majority of 20 years. Anyone under the age of 35 realistically sees us as that. That can’t help. And there’s been much said about location but that will clearly play a big part too.

I really hoped we’d kick on this year, we’d make some impressive signings and show some intent, but as yet, whilst I think we’ve done well so keep the majority of our squad from last year and the 5 signings we’ve made look promising , there’s little evidence to suggest we’re going to be anywhere near challenging.

you've said the same on twitter, chill out.

" no evidence" what you basing that on?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I’d be very surprised if a businessman of the calibre of Jason would want to squander the momentum of the last few months with a quiet mid table season.

You say quiet mid table season, but we haven't finished higher than 14th (out of 24) in League Two for 16 years.

Quoted from sam gy

You say quiet mid table season, but we haven't finished higher than 14th (out of 24) in League Two for 16 years.

That was the lack of quality Fenty brought to the club. We now have new owners who move in a totally different way.

Quoted from quebec38

Ok, so get promoted this season. Then not want to squander the momentum again next season and get promoted from league one? So Premier League football in 4 years?

I love the owners but football isn’t about not wanting to squander momentum. Some people need a reality check.

When we get promoted at the end of the season it will be time for a reality check. I think many of the squad from the NL promotion and this season may not be good enough.

As positive and optimistic as I am I think L1 can be a staging post, squad overhaul and then push on to the championship, a league where we belong.

Any players coming here can look forward to playing in front of home crowds around 6,000. Not many L2 clubs can say that. So we might be slightly more attractive than people think. The other thing to bear in mind is that Hurst has a good reputation and that will be a factor for players to weigh up too.

I am anxious about the midfield but then again what do I know. I hadn’t heard of Ben Fox this time last year, just like I hadn’t heard of Jon Nolan in January 2016. I have no doubts that Hurst will sign the players we need pretty soon.

Quoted from quebec38

Why do we have to be challenging? To be honest I thought we would still be in the NL for at least another season. I would be happy, happyclapping a mid table finish this season, seeing what’s what with the league and then looking to improve again the season after.

The business this summer so far has been fine. We will improve the centre of midfield when improvements are available. I am as concerned as anyone about that one area, but the rest IMO is more than adequate for a year in L2 not having to worry about slipping down again.

100% agree. I get we have momentum, records are being smashed etc but I don't for one second expect a promotion challenge this season. Mid table will be fine providing we continue to make improvements off the pitch (which I am sure we will). If we finish 12th, with planning applications approved for a shiny new training ground, more improvements at Blundell Park and a few young players integrated into the team ready for following season, I will be happy. For what it is worth, I believe the squad we currently have in place is good enough for mid table. I would be happy with a Holohan/ Clifton partnership in the middle. I also feel younger players such as Goundry and Kourhi will get more of a look in this season. This may be the next part of the plan, Andrew has often spoke about the desire to see more players progress from the youth. I do agree we could do with some more signings, but we are not in a bad place as things stand.

Quoted from Superdan147

Well over 5000 season ticket holders, around 2000 extra than normal, promotion back into the league and the extra revenue that brings (stockwood himself said around 1 million) , the new myenergi deal that’s worth more than what youngs ever gave. Shirt sales look set to be as high as they’ve ever been before also (1000 selling within days)

And yet here we are almost half way through pre season needing a new keeper , a new centre back to replace longe king, at least 2 new central midfielders, possibly a left winger and a centre forward. 6 players. Much talk about a higher playing budget, (confirmed as true) yet we are scratching around it seems whilst many others in our league have already secured some very impressive signings.

Perhaps our budget is larger than previous, but might it be that it’s only competitive to the likes of Rochdale and barrow?

Perhaps it’s our reputation, we’ve either been a lower end league two club, or non league club for the majority of 20 years. Anyone under the age of 35 realistically sees us as that. That can’t help. And there’s been much said about location but that will clearly play a big part too.

I really hoped we’d kick on this year, we’d make some impressive signings and show some intent, but as yet, whilst I think we’ve done well so keep the majority of our squad from last year and the 5 signings we’ve made look promising , there’s little evidence to suggest we’re going to be anywhere near challenging.

Patience please.Hurst has said he is looking to bring in another six or seven players. If had said yes we are happy with what we have got that’s it I would be concerned . He has brought in around 40 players in last 18 months notwithstanding our lack of a Nando’s.

Quoted from Superdan147

Well over 5000 season ticket holders, around 2000 extra than normal, promotion back into the league and the extra revenue that brings (stockwood himself said around 1 million) , the new myenergi deal that’s worth more than what youngs ever gave. Shirt sales look set to be as high as they’ve ever been before also (1000 selling within days)

And yet here we are almost half way through pre season needing a new keeper , a new centre back to replace longe king, at least 2 new central midfielders, possibly a left winger and a centre forward. 6 players. Much talk about a higher playing budget, (confirmed as true) yet we are scratching around it seems whilst many others in our league have already secured some very impressive signings.

Perhaps our budget is larger than previous, but might it be that it’s only competitive to the likes of Rochdale and barrow?

Perhaps it’s our reputation, we’ve either been a lower end league two club, or non league club for the majority of 20 years. Anyone under the age of 35 realistically sees us as that. That can’t help. And there’s been much said about location but that will clearly play a big part too.

I really hoped we’d kick on this year, we’d make some impressive signings and show some intent, but as yet, whilst I think we’ve done well so keep the majority of our squad from last year and the 5 signings we’ve made look promising , there’s little evidence to suggest we’re going to be anywhere near challenging.

Signing 1 - Maher. Captain of the team with the best defence last season
Signing 2 - Orsi. 26, prime age, previously scored a goal every other game in non-league (Better than Tshimanga, Wootton. now league 2, Oates, now league 2)
Signing 3 - Wearne. Extremley highly rated at Torquay last season. 21, with massive potential
Signing 4 - Glennon. If he's still as good as when he was on loan, thats a very impressive signing, still only 22
Signing 5 - Kahn. only a few years ago was linked to League 1 clubs, clearly has the ability, and we have a manager who tends to unlock the potential in a lot of these types of players

All 5 signings are positive IMO.

Quoted from RonMariner

Any players coming here can look forward to playing in front of home crowds around 6,000. Not many L2 clubs can say that. So we might be slightly more attractive than people think. The other thing to bear in mind is that Hurst has a good reputation and that will be a factor for players to weigh up too.

I am anxious about the midfield but then again what do I know. I hadn’t heard of Ben Fox this time last year, just like I hadn’t heard of Jon Nolan in January 2016. I have no doubts that Hurst will sign the players we need pretty soon.

And of course, you forgot to mention the change in ownership. The word will be out that Fenty is no more in charge and the club is moving in an entirely different direction.

Not sure if this has already been posted:

Kyle Hudlin signs for Huddersfield Town 'B Team'.

https://twitter.com/htafcacademy/status/1547189158279536645

Quoted from HerveJosse

Patience please.Hurst has said he is looking to bring in another six or seven players. If had said yes we are happy with what we have got that’s it I would be concerned . He has brought in around 40 players in last 18 months notwithstanding our lack of a Nando’s.

I think we need to be a little bit realistic in terms of timelines; not all 6 or 7 signings are going to be with us before the start of the season. I’d expect a couple between now and the Lincoln game, and maybe another 1 or 2 before the start of the season.

Any after that are likely to be closer to the end of the window I imagine. I think it’s easy to look jealously at Bradford, Stockport, Northampton and a couple of others making statement signings, but the reality is that there are plenty of other sides not doing so and I doubt that we are further away than most to having completed our squad. We have 17 senior contracted players, plus the likes of Khouri, Battersby, Goundry, Essel etc. It’s by no means a disaster at this stage.

“In Hurst we trust” is a bit of a cliche I know, but his record of signing and moving on players in the last 12 months or so is just astonishing, isn’t it? I also don’t remember any statement signings as such last summer; going on previous record alone even the signing of McAtee looked a bit “meh”, didn’t it?

To those ruminating about the lack of transfer action, I would say not to worry about things that you cannot control or influence. By buying your season ticket, shirt etc you’ve already done everything you can to support the club right now. Let those with terrific track records trusted to be on the club payroll have the sleepless nights, and go outside and enjoy the sun or something.

I have every confidence this will be an absolutely cracking season.

Championship football is clearly well above his current level, but there is some potential there. Not very quick but had a decent touch when he played us and the ludicrous height is always going to cause problems to defenders. However, 'B' team football against other youngsters? Seems a step down from playing full-time men's football to me, but he'll undoubtedly be earning a lot more for himself so a good move all the same..

If he gets near the first team this year, I'd imagine they won't be having a very good season.

Sunderland, Burnley, Aston Villa and Hull - all higher EFL teams that we have helped with putting some of their young players into 1st team football with good results, so they know we would look after any further loans.

It is not stupid to think that further talks may be taking place behind the scenes that fans will only hear about when ink is dry.

Over the last 3 or 4 seasons, we have seen players come who have then progressed when returning to parent clubs. We are the way that clubs get their players into assessable playing situations instead of the U 23 route. Both sides benefit if the players like Smith, Raikhy, Towler, Embleton etc move up the ranks.

Let's see who appears over the next couple of weeks to expand the playing ranks !!

Surely younger players wanting to prove themselves are a better deal than the old way of hiring overpriced journeymen??

How much did Smith enjoy himself with 1st team football last year ???

Come on Hull - one more loan, please !!

Wonder if Huddersfield would be interested in loaning out Hudlin immediately to maybe a league 2 club for football league experience ;)

We've just had the best season in years and an absolutely thrilling end via the Play Offs, we have some fresh leadership making some fantastic decisions for the good of the club, we've sold more season tickets than ever, more shirts than ever...

..and still some people have to moan ;D

Give it a rest!

There's 3 weeks to the start of the season and 50 days until the window ends. Trust Paul and Jason and Andrew. They've earned that trust. The time to judge the transfer business is 1 September, not now.

Saying we're leaving it late to make transfers isn't being negative, it's being realistic. Yes we can make signings up until September but if you leave it late theyll miss pre season, won't be fit and need bedding in. And it's not negative to say our central midfield isn't up to league 2 standard. It's blatantly obvious and is something that needs addressing asap, not at the end of August.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Saying we're leaving it late to make transfers isn't being negative, it's being realistic. Yes we can make signings up until September but if you leave it late theyll miss pre season, won't be fit and need bedding in. And it's not negative to say our central midfield isn't up to league 2 standard. It's blatantly obvious and is something that needs addressing asap, not at the end of August.

Do players at other clubs not train pre-season? I'm fairly sure PH and the board know exactly who they want and will get them. I'd rather that than do what Scunny are doing and trialling anyone who can run...

Quoted from Mariner93er

Saying we're leaving it late to make transfers isn't being negative, it's being realistic. Yes we can make signings up until September but if you leave it late theyll miss pre season, won't be fit and need bedding in. And it's not negative to say our central midfield isn't up to league 2 standard. It's blatantly obvious and is something that needs addressing asap, not at the end of August.

We have already made some excellent new signings, and so frankly I am not sure what you are on about. Not sure that this is even a topic for discussion, and respectfully, I think you would do well to put your trust in Paul Hurst who has a fine track record of recruitment and achievement at our club.

Not only that, but Paul has made it perfectly clear that he is a big fan of the loan market, and I have no doubt that this is the process he will use to put those final building bricks in place, at times when good quality loan opportunities present themselves.

Stop panicking about signings and put your trust in Paul

Quoted from Stew0_0

Wonder if Huddersfield would be interested in loaning out Hudlin immediately to maybe a league 2 club for football league experience ;)

Now that would be disappointing

Quoted from Stew0_0

Wonder if Huddersfield would be interested in loaning out Hudlin immediately to maybe a league 2 club for football league experience ;)

Not sure I would want him. Not a player that I am a big fan of, and I don't think we will be employing a style of paly that would best fit a lanky player. Aside from the long throws, but then we already have some decent height in the team to capitalise on the long throw opportunities

Quoted from Superdan147

Well over 5000 season ticket holders, around 2000 extra than normal, promotion back into the league and the extra revenue that brings (stockwood himself said around 1 million) , the new myenergi deal that’s worth more than what youngs ever gave. Shirt sales look set to be as high as they’ve ever been before also (1000 selling within days)

And yet here we are almost half way through pre season needing a new keeper , a new centre back to replace longe king, at least 2 new central midfielders, possibly a left winger and a centre forward. 6 players. Much talk about a higher playing budget, (confirmed as true) yet we are scratching around it seems whilst many others in our league have already secured some very impressive signings.

Perhaps our budget is larger than previous, but might it be that it’s only competitive to the likes of Rochdale and barrow?

Perhaps it’s our reputation, we’ve either been a lower end league two club, or non league club for the majority of 20 years. Anyone under the age of 35 realistically sees us as that. That can’t help. And there’s been much said about location but that will clearly play a big part too.

I really hoped we’d kick on this year, we’d make some impressive signings and show some intent, but as yet, whilst I think we’ve done well so keep the majority of our squad from last year and the 5 signings we’ve made look promising , there’s little evidence to suggest we’re going to be anywhere near challenging.

Give it a rest, we've retained the vast majority of last seasons team, added the best (or maybe second best) centre half from the league we were in. Khan and Wearne won't have been short of offers and Orsi would have been very sought after last summer. Crocombe deserves the chance to be number 1 so I'm not too bothered about getting another keeper in immediately.

It's a fine balance assembling your team, just chill out and enjoy Grimsby Town being Football League again.

Quoted from DaleH

We have already made some excellent new signings, and so frankly I am not sure what you are on about. Not sure that this is even a topic for discussion, and respectfully, I think you would do well to put your trust in Paul Hurst who has a fine track record of recruitment and achievement at our club.

Not only that, but Paul has made it perfectly clear that he is a big fan of the loan market, and I have no doubt that this is the process he will use to put those final building bricks in place, at times when good quality loan opportunities present themselves.

Stop panicking about signings and put your trust in Paul

And the line when we we signed JMD and Holohan was that we would build a squad on longer term contracts and be less reliant on loans.

Truth is that there's no right or wrong answer and I'm sure if you asked PH, he would tell you that he would rather have his squad in place as soon as possible BUT if he needs to wait for the right player, he will. He made a very good point in his last interview - our squad on September 1st is our squad till the next window opens - that wasn't the case last season in the National League.

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Any new rumours?

Someone mentioned 'Tyreik Wright' today, not sure i see it on here

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

Any new rumours?

Ask WOZ 🙄

We started last season with a lot of loan players. Less reliant doesn't mean having none.

Quoted from Civvy at last

I’m a bit surprised that Geography plays (allegedly) such a big part.
Just over 1 hours drive to Sheffield/Leeds. And not too much longer for Manchester.
I know they’re not on a fortune as such. But with the wages they do get they should be able to afford to commute. I love Meggies, but to be fair it’s not the most modern night out. But then if they want a night out it’s not to far to travel to the places mentioned above and a relatively cheap hotel.
It’s not like they’re out Fri Sat Sunday is it.

I may be wrong but I'm sure I remember one or two of our managers in the past, even Sir Alan, state that our geographical position had an effect on recruitment of some players.

Quoted from bax

Do players at other clubs not train pre-season? I'm fairly sure PH and the board know exactly who they want and will get them. I'd rather that than do what Scunny are doing and trialling anyone who can run...

Didn't you mean to say "trialling anyone with two legs " ?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

We started last season with a lot of loan players. Less reliant doesn't mean having none.

I didn’t say it did. But it stands to reason that continuity is preferable as is shown by the number of players we’ve retained.

Quoted from sam gy

You say quiet mid table season, but we haven't finished higher than 14th (out of 24) in League Two for 16 years.

That is absolutely disgusting and says more about Fenty than anything else

Dim Dan strikes again!

Give it a rest man.

Quoted from Superdan147

Well over 5000 season ticket holders, around 2000 extra than normal, promotion back into the league and the extra revenue that brings (stockwood himself said around 1 million) , the new myenergi deal that’s worth more than what youngs ever gave. Shirt sales look set to be as high as they’ve ever been before also (1000 selling within days)

And yet here we are almost half way through pre season needing a new keeper , a new centre back to replace longe king, at least 2 new central midfielders, possibly a left winger and a centre forward. 6 players. Much talk about a higher playing budget, (confirmed as true) yet we are scratching around it seems whilst many others in our league have already secured some very impressive signings.

Perhaps our budget is larger than previous, but might it be that it’s only competitive to the likes of Rochdale and barrow?

Perhaps it’s our reputation, we’ve either been a lower end league two club, or non league club for the majority of 20 years. Anyone under the age of 35 realistically sees us as that. That can’t help. And there’s been much said about location but that will clearly play a big part too.

I really hoped we’d kick on this year, we’d make some impressive signings and show some intent, but as yet, whilst I think we’ve done well so keep the majority of our squad from last year and the 5 signings we’ve made look promising , there’s little evidence to suggest we’re going to be anywhere near challenging.

Quoted from rancido

Didn't you mean to say "trialling anyone with two legs " ?

So....what you're saying is that I've still got a chance to turn pro?

Quoted from OddShapedBalls

So....what you're saying is that I've still got a chance to turn pro?

If a certain manager called Ian gets another job, we've all got a chance.

So def no rumours then.

Saidou Khan has announced he’s leaving Chesterfield and it sounds like he’s joining a football league club.

thought he was their best player when we won 4-1 there. then Cook subbed him off

Quoted from Surrey97

Saidou Khan has announced he’s leaving Chesterfield and it sounds like he’s joining a football league club.

We already have a Khan, so it's a no from me. ;)

Quoted from ginnywings

We already have a Khan, so it's a no from me. ;)

😂 He'd be a great signing for me. Athletic centre mid, good age, Chesterfield fans gutted he's going. Is under contract so will be a fee. All in it's a shame he'll probably go to Bradford or Stockport!

The heat is clearly getting to some people isn’t it? Stay hydrated or your brain might not function correctly.

Quoted from LH

The heat is clearly getting to some people isn’t it? Stay hydrated or your brain might not function correctly.

It has been said that my brain doesn't function in any weather. ;D ;D ;D

Finley Shrimptom From Scunny aaccording to twitter, we've bid for him, he's 19, highly rated, offer of a 3 year deal

Quoted from Hagrid

Finley Shrimptom From Scunny aaccording to twitter, we've bid for him, he's 19, highly rated, offer of a 3 year deal

How dare you post a rumour on the rumour thread.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

😂 He'd be a great signing for me. Athletic centre mid, good age, Chesterfield fans gutted he's going. Is under contract so will be a fee. All in it's a shame he'll probably go to Bradford or Stockport!

Yeah, agreed, he'd be a good signing.

He's clearly got something lined up: let's hope it's us.

Awesome name Finley Shrimpton.

Quoted from Hagrid

Finley Shrimptom From Scunny aaccording to twitter, we've bid for him, he's 19, highly rated, offer of a 3 year deal

Not saying it isn’t true, but the account on Twitter looks to be a fake itk account.

FINley SHRIMPton? Playing for Grimsby? Surely a made up person, or too appropriately named to be true….

Quoted from Surrey97

Saidou Khan has announced he’s leaving Chesterfield and it sounds like he’s joining a football league club.

Saw this myself, he's announced it and location would make sense. A fan favourite at Chesterfield and with us looking for central midfielders makes me think there could be some truth to it.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

Saw this myself, he's announced it and location would make sense. A fan favourite at Chesterfield and with us looking for central midfielders makes me think there could be some truth to it.

Chesterfield fans seem to think he’ll be moving to a club in the south but you never know.

[For the record, Chesterfield is a one Nando’s town, but with access to several others in the Sheffield area]

Quoted from Hagrid

Finley Shrimptom From Scunny aaccording to twitter, we've bid for him, he's 19, highly rated, offer of a 3 year deal

Taking this with a pinch of salt given the account was created last month and has 6 followers but we will see I guess.

He was decent when he played a few games at Clee before Keith Hill recalled him to get stuffed in a first team game.

I don't think he's worth stumping up a "significant fee" though but we will see I guess.

That's more like it, a couple of rumors!

Finally!

Hope the one about Khan is true. Never heard of the Shrimpton bloke, but then I'd never heard of MacAtee this time last year either. Hurst will have worked with him at Scunny so you never know.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Taking this with a pinch of salt given the account was created last month and has 6 followers but we will see I guess.

He was decent when he played a few games at Clee before Keith Hill recalled him to get stuffed in a first team game.

I don't think he's worth stumping up a "significant fee" though but we will see I guess.

Some said the same at this time last year about McAtee.

Bit of an echo in here! :)

Quoted from RonMariner

That's more like it, a couple of rumors!

Finally!

Hope the one about Khan is true. Never heard of the Shrimpton bloke, but then I'd never heard of MacAtee this time last year either. Hurst will have worked with him at Scunny so you never know.

If the one about Khan is true then we all do the Khan Khan! Sorry :(

Quoted from RonMariner

Bit of an echo in here! :)

Here, here, here, here......

Be good to get the lad from Chesterfield. It was only a few years ago that they (and Hartlepool) had the cheek to say we were their feeder club! Arrogant tools.

Anyway, we owe them one for taking Jon Nolan in 2016.

Quoted from Hagrid

Finley Shrimptom From Scunny aaccording to twitter, we've bid for him, he's 19, highly rated, offer of a 3 year deal

This is the problem with some of our fans. Take ANY rumour from clearly fake/wind up accounts, run with them, get hyped up (a lot of the time for absolutely no reason) then get annoyed when they don’t sign…

Quoted from KingsleysHair

This is the problem with some of our fans. Take ANY rumour from clearly fake/wind up accounts, run with them, get hyped up (a lot of the time for absolutely no reason) then get annoyed when they don’t sign…

This is the problem with social media and football fans in general… not just Grimsby fans.

Scott Loach new goalkeeper 😉

Saidou Khan is signing for Swindon

That Scunny lad was on loan at Cleethorpes last season so wouldnt imagine he’s coming in as a first teamer from the off, if he is at all…

khan signing for swindon pity because he a good player in a position that we require

That keeper Scott Loach posted what looks like a goodbye to everyone at Chesterfield, which is odd as according to Wiki, he is their first choice keeper.

Loach has gone to Derby

Quoted from FishySmithy

Scott Loach new goalkeeper 😉

Except that he is not is he? The Chesterfield keeper has signed for Derby as a backup. It is no good seeing something on Twitter and then just having a wild guess he is signing for us.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Except that he is not is he? The Chesterfield keeper has signed for Derby as a backup. It is no good seeing something on Twitter and then just having a wild guess he is signing for us.

Derby must have come in with an offer he couldn't refuse at the 11th hour because Max Crocombe liked his tweet as well! 😉

It’s not so much that quietness that concerns me, it’s that we still have core areas of the squad that are threadbare. To be 6/7 players short this close to the start of the season is quite worrying. Getting free agents in at this point means it’s highly unlikely that they’d be fit enough to start the season.

Quoted from Surrey97

Saidou Khan is signing for Swindon

Oh well. But part of me wants to see us signing players from the EFL rather than the National League anyway.

Quoted from KingsleysHair

This is the problem with some of our fans. Take ANY rumour from clearly fake/wind up accounts, run with them, get hyped up (a lot of the time for absolutely no reason) then get annoyed when they don’t sign…

What are you talking about you fool😂😂😂

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Derby must have come in with an offer he couldn't refuse at the 11th hour because Max Crocombe liked his tweet as well! 😉

A like on Twitter leads you to that conclusion? God help us all.

Quoted from davmariner

It’s not so much that quietness that concerns me, it’s that we still have core areas of the squad that are threadbare. To be 6/7 players short this close to the start of the season is quite worrying. Getting free agents in at this point means it’s highly unlikely that they’d be fit enough to start the season.

There are literally hundreds of players not yet fixed up, without resorting to free agents. We are just taking our time to sign the quality we are looking for.

Quoted from rancido

Didn't you mean to say "trialling anyone with two legs " ?

My best mate is from Scunny. 66 years old and just had a triple heart bypass today, but I reckon when he recovers, the Scunts will invite him for a trial lol

Quoted from KingsleysHair

This is the problem with some of our fans. Take ANY rumour from clearly fake/wind up accounts, run with them, get hyped up (a lot of the time for absolutely no reason) then get annoyed when they don’t sign…

It's a rumours thread though. This is the problem with some of our fans, they take things too seriously, this thread is largely to keep us entertained in the off season. It's not that deep.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

A like on Twitter leads you to that conclusion? God help us all.

Whoooosh!

Quoted from BulkyMariner

It's a rumours thread though. This is the problem with some of our fans, they take things too seriously, this thread is largely to keep us entertained in the off season. It's not that deep.

It's close season fun. The other problem is people getting down coz we only signed a striker who doesn't score many, a lazy fecker from Scunthorpe and a crock from Burton. Look how that turned out! Stay positive folks. It will come good.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

There are literally hundreds of players not yet fixed up, without resorting to free agents. We are just taking our time to sign the quality we are looking for.

Wouldn’t them not being fixed up yet at this time of year mean that they are a free agent?

Anyone seen Cesc Fabregas lately ;D

At this stage of the season, any free agents have had about 1 or 2 weeks less training than those at clubs. And that assumes any of them aren't still training with other clubs, which is often the case. You'd also think they would be doing their best to keep their fitness up as they look for the next contract.

Fitness is not an issue with any of these players for now, I feel.

Anthony grant..
Tom Pugh..

Quoted from Townforlife

It's close season fun. The other problem is people getting down coz we only signed a striker who doesn't score many, a lazy fecker from Scunthorpe and a crock from Burton. Look how that turned out! Stay positive folks. It will come good.

That Jamaican international winger we signed from Swindon looks good though. Over 400 league games mostly in League one!

Kieran Green from Halifax according to Twitter rumours.

Football Inside on Twitter reporting we've agreed a deal for Kieran Green from Halifax. Fee would be involved. Apprantly Morecombe had a bid rejected a few weeks back. Central midfielder.

Quoted from Youngy

Football Inside on Twitter reporting we've agreed a deal for Kieran Green from Halifax. Fee would be involved. Apprantly Morecombe had a bid rejected a few weeks back. Central midfielder.

Looks like a trust worthy source, it's got 77k followers including Jason Stockwood himself, John Tondeur and David Burns

Quoted from scott

Looks like a trust worthy source, it's got 77k followers including Jason Stockwood himself, John Tondeur and David Burns

And Matt Dean has now tweeted it. Looks like its a done deal.

Seems like a good signing https://twitter.com/henshawanalysis/status/1506319904043110404?s=21&t=47WIgtiXjzEsjLFmk_J5qw

Top player for us(Halifax). One of main reasons we had best defence in league.
You won't find a more committed midfielder in league. Brick wall type player.

Quoted from AussieShaymen

Top player for us(Halifax). One of main reasons we had best defence in league.
You won't find a more committed midfielder in league. Brick wall type player.

Cheers. Feel for you lot, that side has been absolutely ripped apart. Hope you can recover and kick on next season.

Fantastic sort of calibre of player. Happy to wait if these are the sort of players we are getting through the door. Wouldn’t mind that Matty Warborton from them aswell.

Quoted from Surrey97

Seems like a good signing https://twitter.com/henshawanalysis/status/1506319904043110404?s=21&t=47WIgtiXjzEsjLFmk_J5qw

That Coke guy on the list would be a good signing 😎

From a York fan on another forum:
"Was very good at York,strong high energy midfielder who scored a lot for us,if he has improved his passing whilst at Halifax definitely a league player.
At York he had a tendency to get caught out with needless 6 yard passes straight to opposition but everything else he excelled at."

And from a Halifax fan on there:
"As for Green, he’s an absolute warrior. Beast in the air and loves a strong tackle. Very good at reading the game defensively. His passing has improved whilst with us but not the most technically gifted. Mainly a proper grafter.

You’ve got 2 good ones in Maher and Green. Those 2 would be in our top 5 players last season without a doubt. Will keep an eye out for your results now."

Sounds like very much a PH sort of player.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Bryn Morris ??

Good player, just injury prone.

Am I right in thinking that Kieran Green was in th NL team of the year with Maher last season?

Quoted from Davec

Am I right in thinking that Kieran Green was in th NL team of the year with Maher last season?

no dont think you're right with that, dont remember seeing his name anywhere

Quoted from Davec

Am I right in thinking that Kieran Green was in th NL team of the year with Maher last season?

Not in the official Vanarama team of the year. They went with 3 number 10s in the middle. McAtee, Jordan Davies and Ruben Rodrigues.

Vanarama National League Team of the Season
Sam Johnson – FC Halifax Town
Jayden Richardson – Notts County
Ash Palmer – Stockport County
Aaron Hayden – Wrexham
Harry Boyes – Solihull Moors
Joe Sbarra – Solihull Moors
Jordan Davies – Wrexham
Ruben Rodrigues – Notts County
Kabongo Tshimanga – Chesterfield
Paul Mullin – Wrexham
Paddy Madden – Stockport County

https://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/vanarama-national-league-team-of-the-season-announ-70932

or Adam Virgo's Team of the year:

[img]https://puu.sh/Jb1Be/1813e96336.png[/img]

How many official Vanarama Teams of the Year were there then? Here's the one I saw...

https://twitter.com/Vanarama/status/1535204775477882880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1535204775477882880%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2Ffootball-news%2Ftwo-grimsby-town-players-named-7191979

As the originator of this thread, I think it's time for "NEW PLAYERS" to take over the mantle with immediate info on 2 potential signings - this one seems to have crashed and burned !! !

Errrrr inbound .......... 😂😂

Quoted from It Bites

Errrrr inbound .......... 😂😂

Leeds Bradford or Doncaster Sheffield

You're way too early on that inbound call. Later tonight or tomorrow

Burton have just signed a midfielder. Could enable Morris to leave.

Just want to put something out there.
Tom Collins has sighned for Cleethorpes Town and also on a realease to Brigg.
He is without doubt one of the best young keepers in the UK, released by Scunthorpe in the summer he is a young lad with a big future and would be a good shout at most league two sides. He is an England training squad player with a big future and for somebody he will be a bargain.

Quoted from Earnyourstripes

Just want to put something out there.
Tom Collins has sighned for Cleethorpes Town and also on a realease to Brigg.
He is without doubt one of the best young keepers in the UK, released by Scunthorpe in the summer he is a young lad with a big future and would be a good shout at most league two sides. He is an England training squad player with a big future and for somebody he will be a bargain.

You are spot on in everything you've said . He's a superb keeper and I'm sure a League club will snap him up this season. One of the best young keepers I've seen . Shame Grimsby don't need a keeper

Quoted from It Bites

You are spot on in everything you've said . He's a superb keeper and I'm sure a League club will snap him up this season. One of the best young keepers I've seen . Shame Grimsby don't need a keeper

We do though.

Quoted from Earnyourstripes

Just want to put something out there.
Tom Collins has sighned for Cleethorpes Town and also on a realease to Brigg.
He is without doubt one of the best young keepers in the UK, released by Scunthorpe in the summer he is a young lad with a big future and would be a good shout at most league two sides. He is an England training squad player with a big future and for somebody he will be a bargain.

So why's he at Clee Town then?

Quoted from Earnyourstripes

Just want to put something out there.
Tom Collins has sighned for Cleethorpes Town and also on a realease to Brigg.
He is without doubt one of the best young keepers in the UK, released by Scunthorpe in the summer he is a young lad with a big future and would be a good shout at most league two sides. He is an England training squad player with a big future and for somebody he will be a bargain.

Cheers Tom

Quoted from gtfc98

So why's he at Clee Town then?

He wants to play football I guess ?

Unfortunately, looks like Fabregas is off to Como in Italy's second division...so close yet so far

Quoted from Wiley2405

We do though.

Sneaky feeling that was the point he was making!

Quoted from Earnyourstripes

Just want to put something out there.
Tom Collins has sighned for Cleethorpes Town and also on a realease to Brigg.
He is without doubt one of the best young keepers in the UK, released by Scunthorpe in the summer he is a young lad with a big future and would be a good shout at most league two sides. He is an England training squad player with a big future and for somebody he will be a bargain.

Forgive my ignorance, what does ‘on a release to Brigg mean?

Quoted from Earnyourstripes

Just want to put something out there.
Tom Collins has sighned for Cleethorpes Town and also on a realease to Brigg.
He is without doubt one of the best young keepers in the UK, released by Scunthorpe in the summer he is a young lad with a big future and would be a good shout at most league two sides. He is an England training squad player with a big future and for somebody he will be a bargain.

Sounds like a cocktail for success...

Quoted from Mighty_Mariner

Forgive my ignorance, what does ‘on a release to Brigg mean?

probably means a dual registration. means they can play for 2 clubs, 1 of which must be in a lower league in the pyramid.
Aylesbury United (step 4) regularly use this arrangement with Winslow United (step 6). They have some v. good young players who have come to AUFC when we are short and used it almost as a trial to see if they can make the step up. Winslow, in return, sometimes use AUFC squad players, or they had a good centre half for a few games as he came back from injury

Incoming!… No there actually is one incoming!

Quoted from jimgtfc

Incoming!… No there actually is one incoming!

Oiiiiii If you don't mind ffs INCOMING....... Thank you 😊

Quoted from It Bites

Oiiiiii If you don't mind ffs INCOMING....... Thank you 😊

Aww...got caught out having your afternoon nanna nap at the wrong time?..!.🤣

I'm confused - is this a new real incoming, or is this thread just behind the curve, or is it just a novelette...

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Aww...got caught out having your afternoon nanna nap at the wrong time?..!.🤣

Busted 😂😂

Quoted from It Bites

Busted 😂😂

Altogether now .....INCOMING!!

Bryn Morris - watch this space for Kieran Green

Quoted from LellyEm

Bryn Morris - watch this space for Kieran Green

Green officially announced

2 midfielders with one giving a centre back option for cover.

Green is a trumour now rather than a rumour.

You wait all week for a bus and then two come along at once.

Wow. We have just transformed our midfield.

Looking at the players we lost or let go from the play off final starting line up we have replaced Smith,Fox and Sousa with Maher, Green, Morris, Khan, Glennon, and others.

Jason wasn't joking when he said we would seek to improve the squad in each window.

Quoted from RonMariner

You wait all week for a bus and then two come along at once.

Wow. We have just transformed our midfield.

Looking at the players we lost or let go from the play off final starting line up we have replaced Smith,Fox and Sousa with Maher, Green, Morris, Khan, Glennon, and others.

Jason wasn't joking when he said we would seek to improve the squad in each window.

I like people who do as they say unlike a previous chairman who came out with bullsh!t claiming that the club only had about 2,000 STH and nobody else was interested.

Quoted from It Bites

Oiiiiii If you don't mind ffs INCOMING....... Thank you 😊

I told you yesterday you peaked too early and it'd be late last night or today

Quoted from Superdan147

Considering pail hurst said on Saturday that he wasn’t close to signing anyone, that he’s a little frustrated and we lost Ben fox to a team in the same league, I’d suggest it’d be unlikely that we make any ‘statement signings’ this coming week. There’s been lots of speculation regarding our budget being healthier than usual, but it has to be said, as of yet, there’s little evidence of this on the playing side at least. It’s pure guesswork, but logically speaking I’d be surprised if any of the players thag stayed from last year are on higher wages, waterfall and Holohan perhaps decent earners and possibly Taylor, Clifton, efete, mcatee , JMD all perhaps decent enough too. But the likes of Amos/cropper/crocombe/khouri I can’t imagine are on much. Looking at the new signings , Maher was signed from Halifax who reportedly had a very small budget so can’t imagine he’s earning huge sums, wearne has only ever played 14 senior matches so again, hard to see a big part of the budget on him. Orsi, again, having had 1 good season at Maidenhead probably isn’t a big earner. Glennon and Khan I’d think are on half decent league two contracts but overall I’m looking at the squad and struggling to see how we are even touching the likes of Bradford and Stockport (understandable) , Northampton, tranmere, Salford, Mansfield, Wimbledon and others. I’d be amazed if we’ve actually got a top 12 budget in league two this year , there’s no evidence to suggest that we have as yet.

When will people learn to never ever take anything Hurst says at face value if it's something that should be kept secretive. The little beauty has done it again.

Quoted from lukeo

I told you yesterday you peaked too early and it'd be late last night or today

Oh yes ..... I'll get my coat

Hurst must inject Botox to stop his face laughing when he knows he has signings in the bag !!

The one person I would never want to play poker with is Paul Hurst. On Saturday (Clee game) 'We have no signings on the horizon' ( or similar words ) to 2 new signings on Friday.

Paul Daniels Hurst can produce them out of a hat.

This weeks signings done.

Anyone got any rumours? :)

Quoted from DB

I like people who do as they say unlike a previous chairman who came out with bullsh!t claiming that the club only had about 2,000 STH and nobody else was interested.

This isn’t intended to be a criticism of you or an endorsement of JF. We had a previous owner/non-chairman or whatever he was who was to be fair a reasonably successful businessman. Although extremely wealthy by most peoples standards, he didn’t really have the cash to throw into the club that truly rich people can. I don’t know how he ran his fish business, but if GTFC is anything to go by, cost cutting rather than investing would seem to point to his successes. Sport in general and football in particular isn’t a world of pay less and drive productivity up followed by sell before the lack of investment eats from the inside.

This for me demonstrates why JF was never the right person to own/run a football club. He has his methods which, let’s be honest have given him more than most have. However his methodology doesn’t and didn’t work beyond what he knew. Personally I’d rather avoid commenting on his overall integrity, I’m not close enough to give a valid opinion. The new world of Jason and Andrew is different, much more transparent, engaging and most of all positive. I for one am too old to risk ricking my neck looking backwards, let’s collectively look forwards and enjoy the journey.

Quoted from ginnywings

This weeks signings done.

Anyone got any rumours? :)

Somebody allegedly said you were going to buy me a pint of Guinness! ;) ;)

Quoted from DB

Somebody allegedly said you were going to buy me a pint of Guinness! ;) ;)

I'd buy you a pint, allegedly.

Can see a permanent older GK. Young CB, winger and Striker on loan now. Though I’d love us to sign a proven goal scorer in this league.

Ryan Bennett a rumour gaining traction, paid up by Swansea

Quoted from jaygy

Ryan Bennett a rumour gaining traction, paid up by Swansea

source?

Quoted from BeijingMariner

source?

I’ve heard it from several people who know him from his Norwich days that his wife has always wanted to be back in the Grimsby area. The fact that they now have a property in Humberston Avenue indicates that the move is at least planned if not imminent.

He's going to Reading

Would rather Andy Smith back on loan.

Not saying he’s coming here, but last I heard was that his move to Reading is off.

Long commute to Reading whereas Humberstone Avenue to Blundell Park................

Deal to Reading has been on and off for some time due to his wage demand.. so how do you think we've got a chance ?
I obviously hope I'm wrong but I can't see it myself.

Is Danny Gallimore, son of Tony, seems a good youth prospect on scunny books on the Hurst radar.

Quoted from lukeo

Deal to Reading has been on and off for some time due to his wage demand.. so how do you think we've got a chance ?
I obviously hope I'm wrong but I can't see it myself.

Wage demands at Reading have to factor in him living and/or travelling back down there. He probably wants more money to make the inconvenience worth it.

https://twitter.com/onthisGTFCday/status/1548674040168157185?s=20&t=lwjk8WI66T_TmvCNJ-_Qdg

I don't know if I have pasted this correctly but there is a nice little teaser on Twitter about Ryan Bennett.

Quoted from Cambs Mariner

https://twitter.com/onthisGTFCday/status/1548674040168157185?s=20&t=lwjk8WI66T_TmvCNJ-_Qdg

I don't know if I have pasted this correctly but there is a nice little teaser on Twitter about Ryan Bennett.

Wouldn't take that a teaser from the club or any official source, this is just Bruce being Bruce and meddling with your mind🤣

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Wouldn't take that a teaser from the club or any official source, this is just Bruce being Bruce and meddling with your mind🤣

I thought it might be too good to be true.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Wouldn't take that a teaser from the club or any official source, this is just Bruce being Bruce and meddling with your mind🤣

Bruce from DN35? Had no idea he ran that Twitter account if so.

Go on Ryan, sign for Town! Money isn't everything and you can be home in Humberston each evening for dinner with the wife and the kids! It's a no brainer!

Chuck in a ridiculous promotion bonus. Job done!

Just sen this on Facebook

Jason HerbertScunny United fans group
3d ·
Ok back to football….. I have just had a call I never thought I would be taking and my hearts breaking.
We need to be recruiting retaining our best players said Keith Hill.
Bloody Paul Hurst has told the owners of Grimsby Town that he has one target this summer and is prepared to break the bank for him……
That player is only on our books and the future club captain and legend.
My heart is break because it just shows how far we have fallen that a lad who bleed scunny United can even consider a move to the cods even to get paid few grand a week.
I’m gonna do the lottery tonight and beg him not to go when I win and pay him £5 grand a week.
Almost in tears at this pool presentation and people think I’m emotional at winning the cup comp but in reality a piece of me died tonight
Edit. It’s on Twitter now

I assume that is about Shrimpton?

Hurst wouldn’t break the bank for any players so it’s clearly rubbish.

His main target was Green, he said so.

We paid a fee and he signed.

Don't know anything about this Shrimpton myself and maybe we are keen on him, but I doubt he's as important to us as that Scunny fan seems to think.

It makes me laugh that Scunny think they’re even gonna survive. AFC Scunthorpe in future maybe, but in general their reign is over.

Fin Shrimpton will be 20 by the time the transfer window ends, was on loan at Cleethorpes as recently as March and has made 5 senior appearances for Scunny with an aggregate score line of 2-17.

I know very little of him (other than the fact that his signing for Town would unleash a torrent of fish puns capable of breaking the internet), but the stats don’t paint a picture of a player we’d be breaking the bank for.

Quoted from Poojah

Fin Shrimpton will be 20 by the time the transfer window ends, was on loan at Cleethorpes as recently as March and has made 5 senior appearances for Scunny with an aggregate score line of 2-17.

I know very little of him (other than the fact that his signing for Town would unleash a torrent of fish puns capable of breaking the internet), but the stats don’t paint a picture of a player we’d be breaking the bank for.

😂😂😂

Quoted from Poojah

Fin Shrimpton will be 20 by the time the transfer window ends, was on loan at Cleethorpes as recently as March and has made 5 senior appearances for Scunny with an aggregate score line of 2-17.

I know very little of him (other than the fact that his signing for Town would unleash a torrent of fish puns capable of breaking the internet), but the stats don’t paint a picture of a player we’d be breaking the bank for.

He came on after 35 minutes yesterday. I was there working and he didn't stand out. Gallimore played right back and did alright but certainly looked like a central midfielder playing at full back.

I saw him at Clee before Scunny recalled him and he stood out but you would expect any full-time pro to look alright at that level if they have any future aspirations. Louis Adlard didn't for example and he got released, Jaz Goundry was impressive for Bridlington and got another deal.

Quoted from WelwynGardener

Go on Ryan, sign for Town! Money isn't everything and you can be home in Humberston each evening for dinner with the wife and the kids! It's a no brainer!

According to the Swansea forum he's on £23k a week. Money may not be everything but the attraction of being home for tea might not be enough

Quoted from ginnywings

His main target was Green, he said so.

We paid a fee and he signed.

Don't know anything about this Shrimpton myself and maybe we are keen on him, but I doubt he's as important to us as that Scunny fan seems to think.

Exactly this, what Hurst has already said disproves what is on this FB quote. Not saying we're not interested, I have no idea, but the fact it contains clear BS would indicate this particular post is just made up balderdash

Quoted from WelwynGardener

Go on Ryan, sign for Town! Money isn't everything and you can be home in Humberston each evening for dinner with the wife and the kids! It's a no brainer!

If he's having his dinner in the evening, how late is he having his tea!?

Quoted from buckstown

According to the Swansea forum he's on £23k a week. Money may not be everything but the attraction of being home for tea might not be enough

He's effectively owed £1m if he sees that contract out then or £500k after tax. I highly doubt he will be able to earn anywhere near that again. If he walked away with £300k in his back pocket, then £4k a week take home on a one year deal sees him no worse off. Living costs are cheaper up north so £4k becomes £2.5k. A happy wife and kids when he's likely to be set for life if he's not been stupid make a return to town nothing to do with money. I would imagine anyone else in this league would need to offer stupid money to tempt him but if the likes of Donny, Sheff Wed, Hull or Rotherham become interested, Ryan Bennett might decide to return next summer instead as they are commutable.

Too hot for signings today !!

More chance of the ink drying in the pen first !!

I think it was said that Jean Leroy Belehouan from Sheffield United was another rumour, that or he was meant to have been on trial?

Either way, he's joined Boston United on loan until January.

Incoming loan player signing Thursday, winger 👀👍

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Incoming loan player signing Thursday, winger 👀👍

Source? Any names or clues?

Quoted from Davec

Source? Any names or clues?

From a very good source be announced Thursday 👍🖤🤍

Quoted from Mendonca1995

From a very good source be announced Thursday 👍🖤🤍

the villa lad?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyreik_Wright

Mendonca1995 in & around the playoff spots in the Rumour Mill Table. Could this scoop catapult him towards the top?

Quoted from forza ivano

the villa lad?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyreik_Wright

Apparently it’s been baking in his hometown today.

Quoted from Poojah

Apparently it’s been baking in his hometown today.

Not another neff rumour, surely...

Quoted from forza ivano

the villa lad?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyreik_Wright

Nope not him they are just finalising a few details but it will be done Thursday 👍

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Nope not him they are just finalising a few details but it will be done Thursday 👍

An experienced winger? With a couple of promotions from L2 on his CV?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

An experienced winger? With a couple of promotions from L2 on his CV?

Martyn Woolford

Quoted from GollyGTFC

An experienced winger? With a couple of promotions from L2 on his CV?

Give us a name then golly

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Nope not him they are just finalising a few details but it will be done Thursday 👍

I'm putting my ore in, I still believe Muldoon could be the name.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

I'm putting my ore in, I still believe Muldoon could be the name.

Not a bad player, but is aging, and would really want him on no more than a year’s deal if we are to push on.
I know Dallas has played central for a lot of this past season, but could it be him, and Hurst has recruited him for the wide position (which he can play)?

Quoted from It Bites

Muldoon?

Yeah considering he randomly has had a child born in Grimsby it seems a possibility

Decent player at Harrogate but too old for us
Think he will have a fruitless season if he stays at Harrogate who will struggle this year I think

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Decent player at Harrogate but too old for us
Think he will have a fruitless season if he stays at Harrogate who will struggle this year I think

Just turned 33. Is that too old nowadays?

Hell of a goalscoring record for Harrogate, suggesting he has improved with age.

Plenty of players older than him still in demand.

New signing spotted but I have no idea who it was, he was with Liam Emmerson. He was black and very tall 🤣

Possibly Lou Alcindor?

Quoted from Stew0_0

Akinde? ;D

Akinde is about 6"2 don't think thats 'very tall'.

Quite a large pool to choose from, but I’ll take a guess, Tom Elliott?

Quoted from ginnywings

Just turned 33. Is that too old nowadays?

Hell of a goalscoring record for Harrogate, suggesting he has improved with age.

Plenty of players older than him still in demand.

Yeah I'd have been delighted with him tbh for a 1 Yr contract. Anyway looks like not him...

Alhagi Touray Sisay was the name I heard

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

New signing spotted but I have no idea who it was, he was with Liam Emmerson. He was black and very tall 🤣

Could have been Longe-King.

Quoted from Abdul19

Alhagi Touray Sisay was the name I heard

Didn't we get rid of him a couple of years ago?

Quoted from 123614

Could have been Longe-King.

unlikely
he left 3 weeks ago

Quoted from Hagrid

unlikely
he left 3 weeks ago

Ahh, memory fails again!

Quoted from 123614

Didn't we get rid of him a couple of years ago?

Done well at Haverfordwest; much more mature player, so should blossom under the new regime. So my source says, anyway.

Haverfordwest! What league do they play in?

Tyrone Simpson (Ispwich) maybe??

We all just Googling tall players now?

Quoted from 123614

Haverfordwest! What league do they play in?

The Premier League mate!.....well Cymru Premier, which I would equate roughly to conference north/south level tbh

Quoted from 123614

Haverfordwest! What league do they play in?

The Premier League mate!.....well Cymru Premier, which I would equate roughly to conference north/south level tbh

Quoted from Meza

Tyrone Simpson (Ispwich) maybe??

Hope not. His legs have gone.

[img]https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/thumb/5/51/Tyrone_Simpson.png/250px-Tyrone_Simpson.png[/img]

Quoted from 123614

Haverfordwest! What league do they play in?

Welsh Premier League I think. 39 goals last season.

Quoted from Mikey_345

We all just Googling tall players now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Tall

Quoted from OddShapedBalls

The Premier League mate!.....well Cymru Premier, which I would equate roughly to conference north/south level tbh

Roger that, thanks very much.

Kevin Francis ??? 🤔😉

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Kevin Francis ??? 🤔😉

He always delivers…

The other bloke is a decoy, it's Sbarra

Quoted from OddShapedBalls

The Premier League mate!.....well Cymru Premier, which I would equate roughly to conference north/south level tbh

it's way lower standard than that lol, closer to Sunday league standard. The standard of football in England is actually really high compared to many other countries and much higher than other parts of the UK such as Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland. The big Welsh teams and Wrexham play in the English leagues because the standards are so much better and more money in it. Scotland is the exception where a couple of big teams dominate a very poor set of leagues and never made the jump because they refuse to start from the bottom and work their way up pushing to be let straight into the Premiership as they don't want to give up the money from the European football.

Quoted from BulkyMariner

Refuse to believe we're in for Sisay. He couldn't force his way into the worst team I have ever watched, didn't even get a sniff. He may have done well in the Welsh league, but it's barely NLN/NLS level. Considering the calibre of our signings so far, I would be extremely dissapointed if this was to happen (it won't), imagine Sisay as our 9 for the season.

Give over you daft lad, it was said very, very tongue in cheek!..more chance of signing Cesc than Sissay!..

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Incoming loan player signing Thursday, winger 👀👍

Confirmed signing tomorrow 👀👍

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Confirmed signing tomorrow 👀👍

Right, nice one. Now, who is it? 😂

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Confirmed signing tomorrow 👀👍

Good news. But we really do need another centre half at least one forward.

How would people feel about Abrahams coming back?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Give over you daft lad, it was said very, very tongue in cheek!..more chance of signing Cesc than Sissay!..

I'm the fool for today. My bad.

Abrahams Went to Eastleigh.

Would be amazing if it was Kayode but can't imagine that happening. Also doesn't fit the experienced winger with multiple promotions from league 2

Quoted from Mariner93er

Would be amazing if it was Kayode but can't imagine that happening. Also doesn't fit the experienced winger with multiple promotions from league 2

At just over 6’3” he might fit the LocalLadGTFC description though. Could be two signings? Who knows.

Quoted from Abdul19

Alhagi Touray Sisay was the name I heard

Heard that's why the players haven't had names/numbers on their shirts so far. Make him feel at home.

Quoted from Teesknees

Keyser Söze

Legs have gone

Kayode got a bad injury during pre season, believe he’s been ruled out for 6 weeks.

Quoted from Surrey97

Kayode got a bad injury during pre season, believe he’s been ruled out for 6 weeks.

We were interested, a season long loan

Quoted from Hagrid

We were interested, a season long loan

Could be one we revisit towards the end of the window then maybe? https://twitter.com/paulm_davis/status/1549491597963821059?s=21&t=RbLc4P6ngdpeUOP4zSPYmA

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcburnsy/status/1549868408426184709

👀

Quoted from Mikey_345

We all just Googling tall players now?

Peter Crouch with a sun tan maybe ;D

Quoted from ska face

https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcburnsy/status/1549868408426184709

👀

Why would he want to go on loan to Salford...

Surely it's us? We need a centre back and he would fit seamlessly back in. I've probably jinxed it now.

My mate says that Josh Kayode does look very similar to the guy that he saw with Liam. Didn’t get a very good look at his face but says he had short dreads

Smith returning would be great news, and if that quote from Burns comes to fruition then his destination can only be Town.

Assuming it happens, and assuming Pearson is last in the pecking order, it’ll make for an interesting dilemma of which 2 from 3 you select out of Waterfall, Maher and Smith (once all are fit).

Smith back would be lovely. He was fantastic in the play off final and it's not a coincidence that our form massively improved when he started regularly playing in the middle.

Usain Bolt is tall, fast and plays football.

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Incoming loan player signing Thursday, winger 👀👍

Duke-Mckenna?

Getting Andy Smith back on loan would be a huge coup in my opinion. It would surely make our centre back options amongst the best in the division.

Surely out of us and Salford, Smith would more than likely come back on loan to us seeing as so he couldn't get a game for Salford...

If he goes on loan to Salford over us then something doesn't add up.

That’s undoubtably us then. Hurst already dropped hints he’d be interested if he’s available. Cannot see Smith taking the decision to go to Salford over is especially after last season and only been over the river.

That’d be a really good bit of business that.

Edit: just seen the interview with Hull’s manager - when asked if it’s us, he nods whilst saying it’s a team he’s been at previously, bet he doesn’t play much poker. 😂

All this transfer speculation all of a sudden. Must be the prospect of a free trip to Tenerife

I'll be gutted if its Salford and not us. Surely it's us. It's got to be hasn't it?

I would say that makes it a great squad battle for those 2 CB places.

From pre season it looks like effete is 5th choice/emergency in there as he's played it against alfreton and Lincoln.

Salford copulated him off last season so it won't be them. It will probably be us but just because someone in this thread said it's us or Salford doesn't make that true.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Salford copulated him off last season so it won't be them. It will probably be us but just because someone in this thread said it's us or Salford doesn't make that true.

I mean his own manger is a pretty strong source to be fair mate…

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Salford copulated him off last season so it won't be them. It will probably be us but just because someone in this thread said it's us or Salford doesn't make that true.

https://twitter.com/humbersidesport/status/1549877531356061696?s=21&t=rbVRPhHD1FNl3yD1Q6jdZw

Quoted from Mikey_345

I mean his own manger is a pretty strong source to be fair mate…

That made me lol

Quoted from Poojah

Smith returning would be great news, and if that quote from Burns comes to fruition then his destination can only be Town.

Assuming it happens, and assuming Pearson is last in the pecking order, it’ll make for an interesting dilemma of which 2 from 3 you select out of Waterfall, Maher and Smith (once all are fit).

Possible that Hurst may consider playing 3 at the back.

Requires (imo) 2 of the CBs to be mobile, and a DM who'll run all day. Smith's arrival (which would be great news, as you say) would give us that option.

Chris Maguire could be an option. Told he's not in Lincoln's plans and has been promoted from league 2 twice before I believe.

Smith added to a back three, with both Glennon and Efete as attacking full backs, which both players enjoy doing, would be a huge improvement for both defence and attack, bring more width from deep and allowing the midfielders space to roam and also press higher up.

Smith himself seemed to enjoy being part of the squad so.if personal choice comes into it, then hopefully, we are favourites to secure him for another season.

Quoted from acko338

Smith added to a back three, with both Glennon and Efete as attacking full backs, which both players enjoy doing, would be a huge improvement for both defence and attack, bring more width from deep and allowing the midfielders space to roam and also press higher up.

Smith himself seemed to enjoy being part of the squad so.if personal choice comes into it, then hopefully, we are favourites to secure him for another season.

This would seem to help us attacking down the flanks but we still need that elusive forward who is going to be on the end of crosses and knock loose balls in the box into the net. There does seem to be a real shortage of decent centre forwards at the moment, getting one will be hard work and keeping them if they score a few will be even harder

Big day for mendonca1995 and his winger prediction.

Also will we see the tall, dark stranger unveiled and will Smith be on the plane to Tenerife tomorrow?

Quoted from ska face

Big day for mendonca1995 and his winger prediction.

Also will we see the tall, dark stranger unveiled and will Smith be on the plane to Tenerife tomorrow?

Why's Will Smith going?

Quoted from Mikey_345

Why's Will Smith going?

The men in black, and white

Quoted from Mariner93er

Chris Maguire could be an option. Told he's not in Lincoln's plans and has been promoted from league 2 twice before I believe.

Lincoln are trying to bin off their big earners - he’s one of the biggest.

Quoted from ska face

Big day for mendonca1995 and his winger prediction.

Also will we see the tall, dark stranger unveiled and will Smith be on the plane to Tenerife tomorrow?

You’d certainly imagine that if any new signings are to feature against Leyton Orient then they need to be on that plane to Tenerife, so irrespective of those rumours you’d expect some urgency to do some business today.

Smith would be a welcome addition with Maher currently unavailable, and we’re certainly light up top so fingers crossed we see some incomings today.

Quoted from Poojah

You’d certainly imagine that if any new signings are to feature against Leyton Orient then they need to be on that plane to Tenerife, so irrespective of those rumours you’d expect some urgency to do some business today.

Smith would be a welcome addition with Maher currently unavailable, and we’re certainly light up top so fingers crossed we see some incomings today.

Think with Smith his history been here last year and having a pre season with Hull he'd be fine to slot in irrelevant of when he signs (if he does). He'd of played with all bar Glennon in the back 5 already.

Wow, really hope we get Smith back. That will mean defence and midfield sorted.

Jack Diamond?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Diamond_(footballer,_born_2000)

Let me be the first

Could be a gem of a player

Quoted from brigg_mariner

Jack Diamond?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Diamond_(footballer,_born_2000)

Useful player. Getting better. Good age

Quoted from brigg_mariner

Jack Diamond?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Diamond_(footballer,_born_2000)

Useful player. Getting better. Good age

Going off stays alone you’d have to be pretty happy with Diamond. 14 goals in League Two for Harrogate last season from the wing.

Quoted from brigg_mariner

Jack Diamond?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Diamond_(footballer,_born_2000)

Certainly wouldn't mind him here. Stepped up very well from the National League to League 2. With Sunderland getting promoted, they may let him find a new club.

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

Certainly wouldn't mind him here. Stepped up very well from the National League to League 2. With Sunderland getting promoted, they may let him find a new club.

Excellent stats for Harrogate last season, surely they’ll be suitors in league one let alone league two for him?

Jack Diamond would be a serious signing. Fantastic footballer.

Quoted from ska face

Big day for mendonca1995 and his winger prediction.

Also will we see the tall, dark stranger unveiled and will Smith be on the plane to Tenerife tomorrow?

We shall see mate ✍🏻

Quoted from RonMariner

Wow, really hope we get Smith back. That will mean defence and midfield sorted.

Accounting for potential injuries.. probably at least one CM light at present..

Quoted from Mendonca1995

We shall see mate ✍🏻

I’m not doubting you, I just keep the scores. Sorry, I don’t make the rules!

Diamond would be seriously good. Seen him play at Harrogate over the last two seasons and is a very good player.

Quoted from chaos33

Diamond would be seriously good. Seen him play at Harrogate over the last two seasons and is a very good player.

Watched a couple of clips of him and he struck me as slightly McAtee-esque. Technically lines up out wide in formation but spends a lot more time dictating play in more central attacking positions.

Would that be a fair assessment?

Incoming....

Feel like that excrement programme love island..

Texxxttttt

That would really be an intent signing, whether a loan or future permanent.

If he does sign, and settles like Embleton did, Hurst will have found another "diamond" in the rough !!

I'll get my coat - couldn't resist the pun !!

Brendan Kiernan

From Walsall

Where has Jack Diamond come from other than someone just throwing a name out as a possible suggestion on here?

Quoted from Poojah

Watched a couple of clips of him and he struck me as slightly McAtee-esque. Technically lines up out wide in formation but spends a lot more time dictating play in more central attacking positions.

Would that be a fair assessment?

Yep. Spot on.

Brendan Kiernan name I’ve heard aswell.. going to be with the squad in Tenerife

I suppose one of these names bandied about will eventually land, but it seems Hurst just never gives anything away so it's very difficult to get a proper handle on any player.

I just found this by way of a google search, what have I found? [url]https://gtfc.co.uk/player/b-kiernan/[/url]

Edit: Looks like some fantasy league thing....

There's quite a few highlight reels of Kiernan on youtube. Looks fast and direct and very willing to take his man on, something we don't currently have and something we lacked at times last season. Would be quite happy with him signing on those showings though we all know highlight reels can be misleading.

Is Kiernan going to be a loan or permanent deal?

Also interesting to note that Kiernan's wikipedia profile says he's training as a counsellor and acts as a mentor for young players who have been released. We know how much Hurst values having the right characters in the squad and it sounds like he's a good egg.

Another ex Harrogate player.

Quoted from mariner91

Also interesting to note that Kiernan's wikipedia profile says he's training as a counsellor and acts as a mentor for young players who have been released. We know how much Hurst values having the right characters in the squad and it sounds like he's a good egg.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58969252.amp

Just putting it out there, Kiernan is 5"7 so not particularly tall and doesn't have dreads....

Maybe 2 coming in or someone needs to book an opticians appointment ;D

Didn't someone say (Golly I think) it was someone experienced with previous promotions from the league which doesn't match Kiernan, so could be more than one.

Quoted from BeijingMariner

I just found this by way of a google search, what have I found? [url]https://gtfc.co.uk/player/b-kiernan/[/url]

Edit: Looks like some fantasy league thing....

Well, seeing as it is on GTFC website, It's say it was a done deal.

To be fair I dont know what this page is about. Have you tried visiting that page without the players name.....

https://gtfc.co.uk/player/

theres a whole list of players names including jack Diamond, Aaron Amadi-Holloway and Podge amongst this list.

Some sort of managers shortlist and scout report????

Imagine having this guy on the back of your shirt... https://gtfc.co.uk/player/isaac-tanitoluwaloba-aduraoluwatimileyin-olaofe/

Quoted from Stew0_0

To be fair I dont know what this page is about. Have you tried visiting that page without the players name.....

https://gtfc.co.uk/player/

theres a whole list of players names including jack Diamond, Aaron Amadi-Holloway and Podge amongst this list.

Some sort of managers shortlist and scout report????

It’s a quirk of the website. Aleksander Mitrovic had a profile on there last week.

Quoted from ska face

Where has Jack Diamond come from other than someone just throwing a name out as a possible suggestion on here?

I think he’s from Gateshead originally.

How much does the club shop charge per character used? Could pay for his signing with shirt sales alone!

Quoted from Stew0_0

To be fair I dont know what this page is about. Have you tried visiting that page without the players name.....

https://gtfc.co.uk/player/

theres a whole list of players names including jack Diamond, Aaron Amadi-Holloway and Podge amongst this list.

Some sort of managers shortlist and scout report????

yes, and it might be a scouting list, agree with you there. weird google result [url]https://www.google.com/search?q=Brendan+Kiernan+Grimsby+rumour&newwindow=1&rlz=1C5CHFA_enID1010TH1012&ei=8UTZYoOcG-_v4-EPwKio6A8&ved=0ahUKEwjD2PSh_In5AhXv9zgGHUAUCv0Q4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=Brendan+Kiernan+Grimsby+rumour&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQghEKABMgUIIRCgATIFCCEQoAE6BwguELADEA06BAguEA06BQguEIAEOgUIABCGAzoFCAAQgAQ6BggAEB4QFjoHCCEQChCgAToECCEQFUoECEEYAUoECEYYAFCtB1iPUGCBVGgCcAB4AIABjwGIAdgVkgEENS4yMJgBAKABAcgBAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz[/url]

Quoted from Mariner93er

Didn't someone say (Golly I think) it was someone experienced with previous promotions from the league which doesn't match Kiernan, so could be more than one.

We still need 4 or 5 signings though.

A goalkeeper if Battersby goes out on loan.
A defender (Andy Smith).
A midfielder.
A winger (experienced)
A striker (6ft3 ish)

https://mobile.twitter.com/Buntingfootball/status/1550105291831795713

Quoted from Poojah

https://mobile.twitter.com/Buntingfootball/status/1550105291831795713

See, this is what I mean.

Someone on here posted “Jack Diamond?”, which sprouted two pages of discussion, that’s then picked up by TVFTL on Twitter and an hour later you’ve got a verified account with 10k followers tweeting about it. All, seemingly, from that initial post this morning.

Mental. Reminds me of the time me & a mate made up a rumour about Danny Carr joining from Huddersfield cos we were bored at work. A week later Matt Dannat’s asking Hurst about him in an interview & Hurst had never heard of the bloke. Proper silly season stuff.

Quoted from ska face

See, this is what I mean.

Someone on here posted “Jack Diamond?”, which sprouted two pages of discussion, that’s then picked up by TVFTL on Twitter and an hour later you’ve got a verified account with 10k followers tweeting about it. All, seemingly, from that initial post this morning.

Mental. Reminds me of the time me & a mate made up a rumour about Danny Carr joining from Huddersfield cos we were bored at work. A week later Matt Dannat’s asking Hurst about him in an interview & Hurst had never heard of the bloke. Proper silly season stuff.

Michael Reddy to Luton is still my all time favourite for shítposting getting quickly out of hand.

Quoted from ska face

See, this is what I mean.

Someone on here posted “Jack Diamond?”, which sprouted two pages of discussion, that’s then picked up by TVFTL on Twitter and an hour later you’ve got a verified account with 10k followers tweeting about it. All, seemingly, from that initial post this morning.

Mental. Reminds me of the time me & a mate made up a rumour about Danny Carr joining from Huddersfield cos we were bored at work. A week later Matt Dannat’s asking Hurst about him in an interview & Hurst had never heard of the bloke. Proper silly season stuff.

Be on the Telegraph website by this evening.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Be on the Telegraph website by this evening.

We will have to wait THAT long for them to trawl the Fishy, will we?

Are we short of a midfielder?

Green, Morris, Holohan, Clifton and Khouri. Then there's the first year professionals. At an absolute push I'm guessing Coke has been registered still (expect him to play in the Papa John's) if needed.

Fair enough Clifton might end up playing out wide but we've got a fair few wingers in the building to accommodate him having to shift inside if needed.

Can't see Hurst spending some of his budget on something he'll never need, even with the lack of a lengthy loan window to play with.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Are we short of a midfielder?

Green, Morris, Holohan, Clifton and Khouri. Then there's the first year professionals. At an absolute push I'm guessing Coke has been registered still (expect him to play in the Papa John's) if needed.

Fair enough Clifton might end up playing out wide but we've got a fair few wingers in the building to accommodate him having to shift inside if needed.

Can't see Hurst spending some of his budget on something he'll never need, even with the lack of a lengthy loan window to play with.

The return of the transfer window possibly changes things a little bit, as does the ability to use 5 from 7 subs. The ability to change things mid-game will be crucial in games this season.

I would say of all the potential slots we need to fill, CM is probably the lowest priority but it wouldn’t surprise me to see a loaner come in in that position towards the end of the window, depending on how things go.

Didn't Khan arrive with a note that he can play centrally (assuming he's fit?). Could just be imagining this.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Are we short of a midfielder?

Green, Morris, Holohan, Clifton and Khouri. Then there's the first year professionals. At an absolute push I'm guessing Coke has been registered still (expect him to play in the Papa John's) if needed.

Fair enough Clifton might end up playing out wide but we've got a fair few wingers in the building to accommodate him having to shift inside if needed.

Can't see Hurst spending some of his budget on something he'll never need, even with the lack of a lengthy loan window to play with.

How many CMs did we need to get through the 2nd half of last season? Burgess was signed and was excrement, Jones was signed and was excrement apart from 1 game, raihky was signed and was decent and then injured, other jones was signed barely played and was then injured, Fox was out injured and then came back fantastic, holohan was signed too, clifton may have played the odd game there 2nd half of the season too. That's already 6 CM plus clifton for that half of the season that I can think of. Oh,another was Coke so 8 altogether.

Bit of a freak occurrence though with Hunt needing replacing, then his replacement getting injured, then his replacement getting injured, then his replacement getting injured...

We've got 5 at the minute, for 2 positions and then if needed Coke and one of the young lads. I think it's Wearne who comes here having played inside previously, albeit I think it's more in the McAtee type role than central midfield.

The window shuts end of August and opens again in the New Year, when I'll expect Hurst to tweak his squad and that might include some central midfield options. He may well add another one now, but I just wouldn't describe us as short in that department.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Are we short of a midfielder?

Green, Morris, Holohan, Clifton and Khouri. Then there's the first year professionals. At an absolute push I'm guessing Coke has been registered still (expect him to play in the Papa John's) if needed.

Fair enough Clifton might end up playing out wide but we've got a fair few wingers in the building to accommodate him having to shift inside if needed.

Can't see Hurst spending some of his budget on something he'll never need, even with the lack of a lengthy loan window to play with.

You’ve answered your own question there.

We have 3 senior central midfielders when you accept that Hurst likes playing Clifton out wide. We definitely need another one for cover and to facilitate sending our own young pros out on loan to get regular 1st team experience.

Hurst perilously said he wanted another 6 or 7 and since then we’ve offloaded DLK and brought in Green & Morris. That suggests he wants another 5 in.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

You’ve answered your own question there.

We have 3 senior central midfielders when you accept that Hurst likes playing Clifton out wide. We definitely need another one for cover and to facilitate sending our own young pros out on loan to get regular 1st team experience.

Hurst perilously said he wanted another 6 or 7 and since then we’ve offloaded DLK and brought in Green & Morris. That suggests he wants another 5 in.

2nd choice GK
Another CB
Younger CM (probably loan) for cover
Wide player
Striker

Those probably the areas he wants.

Quoted from ska face

See, this is what I mean.

Someone on here posted “Jack Diamond?”, which sprouted two pages of discussion, that’s then picked up by TVFTL on Twitter and an hour later you’ve got a verified account with 10k followers tweeting about it. All, seemingly, from that initial post this morning.

Mental. Reminds me of the time me & a mate made up a rumour about Danny Carr joining from Huddersfield cos we were bored at work. A week later Matt Dannat’s asking Hurst about him in an interview & Hurst had never heard of the bloke. Proper silly season stuff.

I remember years ago in a gambling group there was a semi pro footballer from Malta. The people in the group managed to spread a rumour on the internet that he was a target for Leicester City for a laugh. It ended up on sky sports news. Surreal to see happen behind the scenes in real time

Quoted from ska face

Big day for mendonca1995 and his winger prediction.

Also will we see the tall, dark stranger unveiled and will Smith be on the plane to Tenerife tomorrow?

Incoming 👀👀👀 and told ya so

Tweet from the club with Kiernan standing seemingly behind Scanz in the team photo day

Half season loan: https://gtfc.co.uk/kiernan-signs-on-loan/

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Incoming 👀👀👀 and told ya so

Kiernan or A N Other

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Confirmed signing tomorrow 👀👍

👍

Quoted from Abdul19

Half season loan: https://gtfc.co.uk/kiernan-signs-on-loan/

Seems really switched on from his interview. Good character, bit of pace and trickery and can bring more goals from out wide. With Wearne, JMD, Clifton, Kiernan and Khan now in those positions I think we have a nice mix of players available depending on who we're playing. If one or more of them can cover McAtee if he's unavailable then we're maybe sorted across those three positions.

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Incoming 👀👀👀 and told ya so

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Obligatory highlights reel.

https://youtu.be/i1tXhkb-tR0

Another player I know nothing about, but that is the norm with PH. He seems to have an endless list of players he keeps tabs on, waiting for the right timing.

Looks to have goals and assists, with a pretty decent record.

Welcome Brendan.

Quoted from ginnywings

Another player I know nothing about, but that is the norm with PH. He seems to have an endless list of players he keeps tabs on, waiting for the right timing.

Looks to have goals and assists, with a pretty decent record.

Welcome Brendan.

6 goals in 41 apps for Walsall last season. Not a bad return for a winger; almost seems slightly odd that Walsall were prepared to loan him out.

Quoted from Poojah

6 goals in 41 apps for Walsall last season. Not a bad return for a winger; almost seems slightly odd that Walsall were prepared to loan him out.

Apparently he doesn't fit in with the system they play but they're complimentary about him on their board.

The first Kiernan to play for us since Kiernan Hughes-Mason.

Probably

Quoted from Mariner93er

Apparently he doesn't fit in with the system they play but they're complimentary about him on their board.

Appears to be another one in the ‘good character’ camp. Sounds trivial, but you only have to look to our play-off heroics to appreciate what togetherness can do when you have it in droves, and back to the Newell area to understand what can happen when you don’t.

I mean technically that Newell lot were ‘together’; together in the pub.

If that showreel shows anything, it is natural speed.

He also looks like he knows when to make a cross count.

Souza style and pace, + cross accuracy and decent decision making if people are better placed wiil get fans on his side quickly.

Any goals?? Pure bonus !!

Taylor, especially, will love that sort of service if he can bring it off.

Another good point was how many opponents put 2 on him - that frees up space for McAtee or other forwards to exploit.

Hurst seems to have a common theme in that signings have been "sold" the club as a good place to be, and research both ways is firmly promoting less risk in signings.

Scouting, and long term viewing of players, rather than quick one performance games against us is now paying dividends, hopefully carrying on this season.

Quoted from Poojah

6 goals in 41 apps for Walsall last season. Not a bad return for a winger; almost seems slightly odd that Walsall were prepared to loan him out.

Also 14 across 2 seasons for Harrogate. so he is chipping in with his fair share.

Harry got 7 on the other wing last season, so if we can get similar returns from the assorted wingers next season, then it all adds to the tally.

Going to be interesting to see who makes that right hand side their own, with JMD and Khan also looking for that spot.

Looks like a much faster Sousa with a much better end product.

Those celebratory forward rolls remind me of my granddaughter, aged 7....

Just watched some of the highlights video of him and the thing that stood out was that he looks comfortable crossing or shooting with either foot, which is always a bonus in a player.

Was surprised that the first 3 goals he scored in those clips were all left foot finishes, when he plays predominantly on the right.

Looks like he could fill in anywhere across the front line.

looks like a 2 footed Sousa with end product. Plus he seems a good egg - what's not to like?

Competition for 1st team places is healthy and will keep players wanting to stay in Hurst's sights !

The team should then benefit from pkayers wanting to impress !!

Quoted from Poojah

6 goals in 41 apps for Walsall last season. Not a bad return for a winger; almost seems slightly odd that Walsall were prepared to loan him out.

Didn't we once sign a "winger" released by Morecambe, with a reasonable scoring record, and try him out as a striker - how did that pan out...

Since PH returned most of his signings have turned out either really well or at least made an ok contribution (only Grant a complete failure), and none can be described as "marquee", I think our closest to marquee is Glennon - had to be a full back with PH I guess...

Always good to get a bit of pace into the squad. Can make a big difference, especially at our level whether starting or coming off the bench.

Quoted from ginnywings

Just watched some of the highlights video of him and the thing that stood out was that he looks comfortable crossing or shooting with either foot, which is always a bonus in a player.

Was surprised that the first 3 goals he scored in those clips were all left foot finishes, when he plays predominantly on the right.

Looks like he could fill in anywhere across the front line.

That was going to be the point I was going to make too.

Once I noticed he seemed to be comfortable using both feet I started watching his dribbling and his first touch a bit more closely, and he even varies which foot he dribbles with and takes his first touch with too. Fantastic as it makes him immediately more difficult to read as a defender.

What I like is that all the players we've got who can play in the 3 positions behind the striker, could quite easily interchange with each other during a game or in different games.

Dave Burns & Shota Arvaladze in the bin if Smith doesn’t get announced soon. As for short dread? Nought. Can’t see anything happening over the next week or so if they’re away in Tenerife.

A bit too laboured, that pun!

Smith will play in Hull’s friendly tomorrow, if a deal happens I’m guessing it will be announced once we are back from Tenerife.

Another 3 or 4 signings to complete our squad? That would allow our 7 young pros the opportunity to go out on loan and gain experience of proper mens football.

I think we need...

Another goalkeeper (maybe a loan?)
Another centre-back (Andy Smith?)
Another central midfielder
Another striker

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A bit too laboured, that pun!

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Quoted from ginnywings

Just watched some of the highlights video of him and the thing that stood out was that he looks comfortable crossing or shooting with either foot, which is always a bonus in a player.

Was surprised that the first 3 goals he scored in those clips were all left foot finishes, when he plays predominantly on the right.

Looks like he could fill in anywhere across the front line.

Keeps the ball very close to his feet when dribbling, he’ll probably draw a lot of fouls. Looks a bit like like Oxlade-Chamberlain in full flight.

Sunderland winger Jack Diamond linked. 22 years old, 13 goals 6 assists for Harrogate last season, could he a rough gem?

Another winger needed?

Think we'd probably need a GK, CB, CM, ST now then we done

Quoted from coddy60

Sunderland winger Jack Diamond linked. 22 years old, 13 goals 6 assists for Harrogate last season, could he a rough gem?

Diamond isn’t happening

Yeah lets be 'crystal' clear, Diamond's not 'cut ' and dried. Shame as would have been a 'gem' of a player.

Let's put this one to bed.
Have a heart ❤ and lets club together to buy a spade and bury this rumour.

It's a relief that this lad isn't signing as we would have months of sh**e puns if he did

Quoted from pontoonlew

Diamond isn’t happening

Hmmm….we should’ve known better.

Quoted from horsforthmariner

It's a relief that this lad isn't signing as we would have months of sh**e puns if he did

Most of them alimentary ones I agree…

Lets hope we can find a carbon copy

Quoted from 140381

Hmmm….we should’ve known better.

Brilliant!!! :)

Quoted from ginnywings

Also 14 across 2 seasons for Harrogate. so he is chipping in with his fair share.

Harry got 7 on the other wing last season, so if we can get similar returns from the assorted wingers next season, then it all adds to the tally.

Going to be interesting to see who makes that right hand side their own, with JMD and Khan also looking for that spot.

If we can get 6 goals a piece from wide players, 25 from numbers 9 & 10, 8 out of the two centre mids and an average 4 a piece from defenders all coupled with a mean defence (low 40’s conceded), then history shows that adds up to a play-off spot.

Quoted from SouthLakesMariner

If we can get 6 goals a piece from wide players, 25 from numbers 9 & 10, 8 out of the two centre mids and an average 4 a piece from defenders all coupled with a mean defence (low 40’s conceded), then history shows that adds up to a play-off spot.

Think we have the makings of a team that will have goals coming from all over the pitch. If Efete can stay fit, he can probably score 6 from RB, think Glennon scored 2 in a very short space from LB last time, wouldn’t bank against him doubling that in a full season. Waterfall, yes he won’t repeat the 9 he got last season which is a ridiculous number for a CB but I’d still hope for 6 from him, and to create a few from set pieces with that knock back across goal.

We might get 4-5 goals from Keiran Green looking at his record. Hopefully Harry can become a little more ruthless in front of goal this season, so let’s be ambitious and say he’ll get 10 goals from that role. Fingers crossed, a combination of Khan, Wearne and Keirnan on the other side can chip in with 12 goals, as all of them have decent scoring records.

Now, McAtee, this is the big one. However brilliant he is, he needs to improve on 16 goals from last season. He’s only 22 and I hope he can become more clinical in front of goal this season. If he stays fit and free from suspension, by no means a given, and improves a bit throughout the summer in front of goal, I think he can score 25 goals this season. We then need to find someone who scores a bit more than Taylor, I’d hope so someone who can contribute maybe 12 goals a season but still provide the link up and physicality that Taylor does.

That would give us 80 goals in total this season, throw in 7-8 more from a second CB, another midfielder and another striker and we’re looking at hopefully 90 goals. That would easily be enough for promotion.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Think we have the makings of a team that will have goals coming from all over the pitch. If Efete can stay fit, he can probably score 6 from RB, think Glennon scored 2 in a very short space from LB last time, wouldn’t bank against him doubling that in a full season. Waterfall, yes he won’t repeat the 9 he got last season which is a ridiculous number for a CB but I’d still hope for 6 from him, and to create a few from set pieces with that knock back across goal.

We might get 4-5 goals from Keiran Green looking at his record. Hopefully Harry can become a little more ruthless in front of goal this season, so let’s be ambitious and say he’ll get 10 goals from that role. Fingers crossed, a combination of Khan, Wearne and Keirnan on the other side can chip in with 12 goals, as all of them have decent scoring records.

Now, McAtee, this is the big one. However brilliant he is, he needs to improve on 16 goals from last season. He’s only 22 and I hope he can become more clinical in front of goal this season. If he stays fit and free from suspension, by no means a given, and improves a bit throughout the summer in front of goal, I think he can score 25 goals this season. We then need to find someone who scores a bit more than Taylor, I’d hope so someone who can contribute maybe 12 goals a season but still provide the link up and physicality that Taylor does.

That would give us 80 goals in total this season, throw in 7-8 more from a second CB, another midfielder and another striker and we’re looking at hopefully 90 goals. That would easily be enough for promotion.

90 goals?! You’re aware that only Luton have done that in over 10 years?

Quoted from Mariner_09

Think we have the makings of a team that will have goals coming from all over the pitch. If Efete can stay fit, he can probably score 6 from RB, think Glennon scored 2 in a very short space from LB last time, wouldn’t bank against him doubling that in a full season. Waterfall, yes he won’t repeat the 9 he got last season which is a ridiculous number for a CB but I’d still hope for 6 from him, and to create a few from set pieces with that knock back across goal.

We might get 4-5 goals from Keiran Green looking at his record. Hopefully Harry can become a little more ruthless in front of goal this season, so let’s be ambitious and say he’ll get 10 goals from that role. Fingers crossed, a combination of Khan, Wearne and Keirnan on the other side can chip in with 12 goals, as all of them have decent scoring records.

Now, McAtee, this is the big one. However brilliant he is, he needs to improve on 16 goals from last season. He’s only 22 and I hope he can become more clinical in front of goal this season. If he stays fit and free from suspension, by no means a given, and improves a bit throughout the summer in front of goal, I think he can score 25 goals this season. We then need to find someone who scores a bit more than Taylor, I’d hope so someone who can contribute maybe 12 goals a season but still provide the link up and physicality that Taylor does.

That would give us 80 goals in total this season, throw in 7-8 more from a second CB, another midfielder and another striker and we’re looking at hopefully 90 goals. That would easily be enough for promotion.

your living in cuckoo land

Quoted from Hagrid

your living in cuckoo land

🤣

If McAtee can supply crosses like the one for Taylor's header against Wrexham, take corners like the one that lead to the headed goal in the same game, score at least THREE goals of the season as he did in the season gone AND have a tally of 16 goals at the seasons end I'll be very, very, very happy.

Waterfall's 9 is a bit of a myth as 2 of them were Efete's!

Quoted from Mariner_09

Think we have the makings of a team that will have goals coming from all over the pitch. If Efete can stay fit, he can probably score 6 from RB, think Glennon scored 2 in a very short space from LB last time, wouldn’t bank against him doubling that in a full season. Waterfall, yes he won’t repeat the 9 he got last season which is a ridiculous number for a CB but I’d still hope for 6 from him, and to create a few from set pieces with that knock back across goal.

We might get 4-5 goals from Keiran Green looking at his record. Hopefully Harry can become a little more ruthless in front of goal this season, so let’s be ambitious and say he’ll get 10 goals from that role. Fingers crossed, a combination of Khan, Wearne and Keirnan on the other side can chip in with 12 goals, as all of them have decent scoring records.

Now, McAtee, this is the big one. However brilliant he is, he needs to improve on 16 goals from last season. He’s only 22 and I hope he can become more clinical in front of goal this season. If he stays fit and free from suspension, by no means a given, and improves a bit throughout the summer in front of goal, I think he can score 25 goals this season. We then need to find someone who scores a bit more than Taylor, I’d hope so someone who can contribute maybe 12 goals a season but still provide the link up and physicality that Taylor does.

That would give us 80 goals in total this season, throw in 7-8 more from a second CB, another midfielder and another striker and we’re looking at hopefully 90 goals. That would easily be enough for promotion.

What have you been smoking ?

All we need to do is win all 46 games 1-0 and we will get promoted.

Can't believe you didn't factor own goals into the calculation...

Was listening to some clown’s podcast the other day who had us down as likely to be in a relegation battle and whilst my initial thought was that he’d suffered a brain injury, I suppose he did have a point when he mentioned how few goals we scored last season. It takes me up back to the 94th minute at Notts County in the POs, when it looked like all hopes were ebbing away and I did think that the match pretty much summed up our season - dominate the game, not quite enough of a cutting edge up top & lose to an undeserved winner.

The quality in the 3 behind Taylor looks to be an improvement on last year with more attacking intent and end product. But not sure if this is going to substantially address the lack of goals. Doesn’t look to be a change of system incoming either, so hope Hurst manages to get hold of a decent striker, but not holding my breath.

Quoted from RonMariner

All we need to do is win all 46 games 1-0 and we will get promoted.

Unless you get points deduction

With 138 points it would have to be a monumental points deduction.

Quoted from ska face

Was listening to some clown’s podcast the other day who had us down as likely to be in a relegation battle and whilst my initial thought was that he’d suffered a brain injury, I suppose he did have a point when he mentioned how few goals we scored last season. It takes me up back to the 94th minute at Notts County in the POs, when it looked like all hopes were ebbing away and I did think that the match pretty much summed up our season - dominate the game, not quite enough of a cutting edge up top & lose to an undeserved winner.

The quality in the 3 behind Taylor looks to be an improvement on last year with more attacking intent and end product. But not sure if this is going to substantially address the lack of goals. Doesn’t look to be a change of system incoming either, so hope Hurst manages to get hold of a decent striker, but not holding my breath.

Can't really judge us on statistics that span over the full season as the squad changed so much throughout, the squad we finished with couldve easily got 10 more goals and conceded a few less too. Im confident we'll have one of the best defences in the league, definately no guarantees on how our attack will do in league 2 but im confident we'll do enough to be nowhere near trouble

46 1-0 wins seems a bit unlikely to me! Luckily, we only really need about 30 to guarantee promotion. Much more achievable as I'm sure everyone agrees! :) ;)

Think we are a striker short of been a real threat by that i mean we could easily make the play offs if we do actually sign one in this window

Quoted from fishcake63

Think we are a striker short of been a real threat by that i mean we could easily make the play offs if we do actually sign one in this window

I seem to recall Hurst saying something about wanting a striker, or words to that effect. The problem for him is being able to bring one in. If one that meets his standards is not available then he will not sign somebody for signing's sake, as we know from last season when we didn't have a recognised No9.

That said we had several players popping goals in the first few games of last season, so it might not be a problem.

I think McAtee has had a good season if he scores 12-15. If he wasn't injured last season he would have hit 20 I'm sure of it but he brings so much more to the team than goals. His link up play, pressing, intelligent play with Taylor are all key to how we play. I think the aim for McAtee shouldn't just centre around goals but more goal involvements.

i see Ull have just signed a new striker. That means 1 or 2 (like Chadwick) have been pushed a bit further down the line

Despite the jump in level, I think McAtee will score more this season than last. At the start of last season he seemed to miss quite a few chances (think Altrincham away where he should've had a hat trick), but by the end of it he was finishing with the ice cold veins of a top top contract killer (think Boreham Wood or Solihull). Anyway, I'm backing him to be the first GTFC league 20 hitter since 1905, or however long ago it was.

Quoted from forza ivano

i see Ull have just signed a new striker. That means 1 or 2 (like Chadwick) have been pushed a bit further down the line

Looking at Chadwick's record I will feel underwhelmed if he was signed as our number 9, I appreciate that Mcatee and Podge etc didn't exactly have amazing scoring records before signing for us but I would feel happier with somebody with a better record.

I still think we need a goalkeeper, CB, another winger, another CM and another striker.

But I do appreciate we probably won't see both a winger and cm sign, depending on where Hurst sees Clifton playing this season.

What we do need to be mindful of that we can't sign players on loan all season like in the national League so we need to ensure we have enough depth before the window slams shut

Quoted from Davec

Looking at Chadwick's record I will feel underwhelmed if he was signed as our number 9, I appreciate that Mcatee and Podge etc didn't exactly have amazing scoring records before signing for us but I would feel happier with somebody with a better record.

I still think we need a goalkeeper, CB, another winger, another CM and another striker.

But I do appreciate we probably won't see both a winger and cm sign, depending on where Hurst sees Clifton playing this season.

What we do need to be mindful of that we can't sign players on loan all season like in the national League so we need to ensure we have enough depth before the window slams shut

Think Hursty wants someone who’s of similar profile to Taylor but is younger, more mobile, able to last 90 mins and more of a goal threat as opposed to a poacher type. Think that player is Orsi, although I see him playing from the bench predominately.

He still needs another GK, another CB (🤞 that’s Smith) and another CM on top of that illusive striker I’ve talked about. He may want another wide player, especially if something special suddenly becomes available but with Khan (eventually), Wearne, Keirnan, JMD and Harry (who I still think will play the same role as last season) we’ve probably got just enough at there.

Ideally, we want someone who will score a few more goals than Taylor does, but a younger model even with a similar strike rate would do just fine. We weren't set up to rely on the main striker for our goals last season and doubt it will be any different this year. I suspect we'd be looking for someone either a bit bigger or a bit quicker than Taylor to give us an alternative option. It's just the nature of the game that, from time to time, even good players don't get any joy against certain opponents and that's when you need to try something different.

Quoted from Maringer

Ideally, we want someone who will score a few more goals than Taylor does, but a younger model even with a similar strike rate would do just fine. We weren't set up to rely on the main striker for our goals last season and doubt it will be any different this year. I suspect we'd be looking for someone either a bit bigger or a bit quicker than Taylor to give us an alternative option. It's just the nature of the game that, from time to time, even good players don't get any joy against certain opponents and that's when you need to try something different.

I want more goals from players around McAtee. Taylor got 7 did he? Harry got 7 but could and should’ve scored a lot more with some more composure in front of goal. JMD got 4 or 5 in relatively very few games but we need someone in double figures from out wide and the centre forward getting a dozen goals or something.

The issue with players who have a consistent track record of scoring goals is they tend to move up the pyramid, as opposed to across or down it. There may be some who have had inconsistencies in their career but demonstrated a pedigree at a certain Club or two but they're often well fought over.

The next option is to look in the non-league for goalscorers untested at this level, but they'll undoubtedly need time to find their feet and get to grips with the demands which can be an issue if time isn't available or patience isn't present in the fans (in the sense of what we expect from our striker and how we judge them [Sissay looked awful but is attracting interest from a host of L1 clubs...]). As we've seen before, it can go either way.

I think what PH will be doing - as pretty much all of us have come to learn - is trying to find a player who fits his mould of attributes that has perhaps been under-utilised in positions not quite suited to the player that he feels he could get more out of. That carries risk of failure too but gamble though it might be it's cheaper than finding the funds to capture the consistent proven goalscorer that would be the ideal scenario in most peoples book.

Quoted from Mariner_09

I want more goals from players around McAtee. Taylor got 7 did he?

9 (but only 3 in his last 26).

Will be lots of competition for any young player with Taylor's attributes who scores more goals than he does.

Just looking on h**l’s wiki page they are inundated with strikers (forwards) in their first team squad. No less than 9, though rumour has it mallik wilks is on his way out. Maybe aiming a bit high but I reckon James Scott could be a decent addition

Not overall impressed with Orsi sp far. Think he's a bench player at most.

Need a more prolific player as we can't r depend solely on mac

I agree with Abdul19.  McAtee could have had a hat trick at Altrincham.  He has become more clinical towards the end of the season.  You highlighted 2 examples.  He also scored a great goal at Wrexham and could easily have score 3 in the first half. Another critical goal was in the
promotion final.

He had 2 injury layoffs last season and a red card suspension.  So more goals could have been scores with more games.

No reason therefore for him not to score more goals this season, even at a higher level.  He will also have better players supporting him.  I would like to see him him use his energy more wisely to still be very productive over 90 mins and not tire.  He can stop proving to Scunny fans that he is not lazy.😆😆

Quoted from Grimsby2012

Not overall impressed with Orsi sp far. Think he's a bench player at most.

Need a more prolific player as we can't r depend solely on mac

I take it this is a wind up?

Quoted from Grimsby2012

Not overall impressed with Orsi sp far. Think he's a bench player at most.

Need a more prolific player as we can't r depend solely on mac

Harsh! How many games have you seen him play to come up with that opinion?

Quoted from Maringer

Ideally, we want someone who will score a few more goals than Taylor does, but a younger model even with a similar strike rate would do just fine. We weren't set up to rely on the main striker for our goals last season and doubt it will be any different this year. I suspect we'd be looking for someone either a bit bigger or a bit quicker than Taylor to give us an alternative option. It's just the nature of the game that, from time to time, even good players don't get any joy against certain opponents and that's when you need to try something different.

Agree with this. I think we still need another option up front, but I don’t think PH’s priority will be a prolific scorer, more a striking alternative that offers the qualities Taylor brings, i.e. the ability to hold the ball and bring the players around him into play.

The signing’s of Maher, Glennon and Green will hopefully make us difficult to score against and I think we’ll have enough goals in the side to make us competitive and launch a challenge without adding a prolific goal scorer.

Quoted from Mariner_09

Now, McAtee, this is the big one. However brilliant he is, he needs to improve on 16 goals from last season. He’s only 22 and I hope he can become more clinical in front of goal this season. If he stays fit and free from suspension, by no means a given, and improves a bit throughout the summer in front of goal, I think he can score 25 goals this season.

But the problem is that if McAtee is in his final year of his contract and he hasn't signed an extension (I'm not aware he has) , then come January, with only 6 months left on his contract, if he has been knocking them in left right and centre then another team can poach him for next to nothing, and where will that leave us if we are so dependant on him in that position?

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

But the problem is that if McAtee is in his final year of his contract and he hasn't signed an extension (I'm not aware he has) , then come January, with only 6 months left on his contract, if he has been knocking them in left right and centre then another team can poach him for next to nothing, and where will that leave us if we are so dependant on him in that position?

I love McAtee and what he's about. I love the way he plays. But, I think this season, although he'll be a big part of it, we won't be massively reliant on him due to the calibre of players around him. UTM

Quoted from lukeo

I love McAtee and what he's about. I love the way he plays. But, I think this season, although he'll be a big part of it, we won't be massively reliant on him due to the calibre of players around him. UTM

Well Taylor when fit will likely start and Clifton will probably start on the left, so it'll only be the right winger who changes. So really, the calibre of player in the attacking third will be almost exactly the same which suggests we will be overly reliant on him again.

I like our squad but I do think we'll have the same issue as last season with a lack of goals at times, which was essentially the reason for our terrible mid-season run.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

But the problem is that if McAtee is in his final year of his contract and he hasn't signed an extension (I'm not aware he has) , then come January, with only 6 months left on his contract, if he has been knocking them in left right and centre then another team can poach him for next to nothing, and where will that leave us if we are so dependant on him in that position?

I'd like to think that these days we wouldn't let him go for next to nothing if that's happening though, better to let him go for free at the end of the season.

Quoted from Abdul19

I'd like to think that these days we wouldn't let him go for next to nothing if that's happening though, better to let him go for free at the end of the season.

I might be mistaken on this, but since McAtee will still be under 24 when his contract expires next year, any transfer would be subject to tribunal (provided we offered him a new deal equal to his current deal, something we failed to do with Charles Vernam).

I think the general view is that you tend to get below true market value at tribunal but it significantly strengthens our arm in the negotiating stakes come January and McAtee is in double-figures and recreating the kind of form we saw last season, at the higher level. I don't think we're quite that vulnerable to low-ball offers in the winter, new deal or no new deal.

Quoted from Poojah

I might be mistaken on this, but since McAtee will still be under 24 when his contract expires next year, any transfer would be subject to tribunal (provided we offered him a new deal equal to his current deal, something we failed to do with Charles Vernam).

I think the general view is that you tend to get below true market value at tribunal but it significantly strengthens our arm in the negotiating stakes come January and McAtee is in double-figures and recreating the kind of form we saw last season, at the higher level. I don't think we're quite that vulnerable to low-ball offers in the winter, new deal or no new deal.

It's knowing what to do and it's great to think that the club is now run by people who will consider every option rather than looking to cash in. I suppose a key consideration is also who does Hurst think can replace McAtee and how much will he cost?

We had an option on Vernam, he didn't even have to agree anything - that mess certainly wouldn't happen now!

Quoted from Poojah

I might be mistaken on this, but since McAtee will still be under 24 when his contract expires next year, any transfer would be subject to tribunal (provided we offered him a new deal equal to his current deal, something we failed to do with Charles Vernam).

I think the general view is that you tend to get below true market value at tribunal but it significantly strengthens our arm in the negotiating stakes come January and McAtee is in double-figures and recreating the kind of form we saw last season, at the higher level. I don't think we're quite that vulnerable to low-ball offers in the winter, new deal or no new deal.

One of the things in our favour is the tribunals often put in sell on clauses. I think in this case it's better to get a season out of your best player whether he signs a new contract or not.

I actually think he will sign one with the understanding he goes for big money if it comes.

Quoted from Poojah

I might be mistaken on this, but since McAtee will still be under 24 when his contract expires next year, any transfer would be subject to tribunal (provided we offered him a new deal equal to his current deal, something we failed to do with Charles Vernam).

I think the general view is that you tend to get below true market value at tribunal but it significantly strengthens our arm in the negotiating stakes come January and McAtee is in double-figures and recreating the kind of form we saw last season, at the higher level. I don't think we're quite that vulnerable to low-ball offers in the winter, new deal or no new deal.

I could also be wrong but whilst the initial fee’s set by tribunals are low they often include a 15% sell on fee as well.

125 hours to go until the season kicks off. The closed season is usually painfully dull and never ending, but the rapid turnaround this time around has felt very different. Watching season ticket sales rocket to record levels, new sponsorships, kit launches and a host of positive new signings, the summer of 2022 has been far more interesting than usual.

What do we see happening this week then? I imagine we’re still 4 or 5 short of where we want to be come September, with central defence and that elusive number 9 probably the two most obvious areas in need of reinforcement.

The return of Andy Smith would be both welcome and relatively unsurprising, given the comments of Shota Arveladze last week. He could slot straight in to reprise his partnership with Waterfall, should the deal happen.

Like last season, the target man looks a trickier find. Still a few potential options on the free agents list; Aaron Amadi-Holloway, Nathan Delfouneso, Tom Elliot, Caolan Lavery all without a club. The name of Joshua Kayode at Rotherham has also been touted as a potential loan option. As ever though the likely outcome is that, perhaps Smith aside, any new additions arrive completely off the radar.

Pure guesswork, but I think we’ll see another two through the door before the battle of the 22/23 season begins.

Quoted from Wedidntdidwe

With 138 points it would have to be a monumental points deduction.

To be fair, it was fairly recently that Saracens took 2x point deductions adding up to 105 points to make sure they were relegated after some dodgy accounting. The first 35 because they had cheated in years previously, and the second lot of 70 because when asked to open up their accounts books to prove it wasn't still happening in the current season or face relegation....they took relegation. But obviously with JS around we aren't in danger of that sort of thing anyway.

Has anyone ever accrued more than 105 points deductions in a season before? I think Juve probably came closest to that after the match fixing debacle.

Quoted from Poojah

125 hours to go until the season kicks off. The closed season is usually painfully dull and never ending, but the rapid turnaround this time around has felt very different. Watching season ticket sales rocket to record levels, new sponsorships, kit launches and a host of positive new signings, the summer of 2022 has been far more interesting than usual.

What do we see happening this week then? I imagine we’re still 4 or 5 short of where we want to be come September, with central defence and that elusive number 9 probably the two most obvious areas in need of reinforcement.

The return of Andy Smith would be both welcome and relatively unsurprising, given the comments of Shota Arveladze last week. He could slot straight in to reprise his partnership with Waterfall, should the deal happen.

Like last season, the target man looks a trickier find. Still a few potential options on the free agents list; Aaron Amadi-Holloway, Nathan Delfouneso, Tom Elliot, Caolan Lavery all without a club. The name of Joshua Kayode at Rotherham has also been touted as a potential loan option. As ever though the likely outcome is that, perhaps Smith aside, any new additions arrive completely off the radar.

Pure guesswork, but I think we’ll see another two through the door before the battle of the 22/23 season begins.

Stand sponsorship announcement

Hearing that we have enquired about Junior Luamba from Oldham.

19 years old, 6.2ft striker. Bags of potential.

Quoted from Poojah

125 hours to go until the season kicks off. The closed season is usually painfully dull and never ending, but the rapid turnaround this time around has felt very different. Watching season ticket sales rocket to record levels, new sponsorships, kit launches and a host of positive new signings, the summer of 2022 has been far more interesting than usual.

What do we see happening this week then? I imagine we’re still 4 or 5 short of where we want to be come September, with central defence and that elusive number 9 probably the two most obvious areas in need of reinforcement.

The return of Andy Smith would be both welcome and relatively unsurprising, given the comments of Shota Arveladze last week. He could slot straight in to reprise his partnership with Waterfall, should the deal happen.

Like last season, the target man looks a trickier find. Still a few potential options on the free agents list; Aaron Amadi-Holloway, Nathan Delfouneso, Tom Elliot, Caolan Lavery all without a club. The name of Joshua Kayode at Rotherham has also been touted as a potential loan option. As ever though the likely outcome is that, perhaps Smith aside, any new additions arrive completely off the radar.

Pure guesswork, but I think we’ll see another two through the door before the battle of the 22/23 season begins.

But we had one in manny diesurvwe he was scoring for fun and not even starting does seem a strange one to me that, I believe he is looking for a striker that gets in behind with pace and hoping Taylor is for most weeks as it stands

Quoted from Grimsby2012

Hearing that we have enquired about Junior Luamba from Oldham.

19 years old, 6.2ft striker. Bags of potential.

He would need to prove his fitness. Two long lay offs with hamstring injuries last season. Loan to try before you buy?

What’s the record number of pages on a thread this one must be high up there

Quoted from crusty ole pie

What’s the record number of pages on a thread this one must be high up there

It’s been a godsend though, unlike the multiple separate threads full of nonsense from previous seasons

It is easier to follow one specific thread, than jump pages to update on single name rumours !

Although the thread has wobbled a bit over the pages, the general run has been more focused on potential new players, and decent reasons for wanting or not wanting those suggestions.

Just now need the 4 rabbits jumping out of Hurst's busy hat !!

Believe Andy Smith’s season long loan is pretty much sorted. Will be announced in time for this weekend’s game.

Wonder if Hurst’ll be tempted to look at 3 at the back of Smith does come in. Seems like an embarrassment of riches at CB and would be a shame for one of Smith, Maher and Waterfall to be stuck on the bench when all are fit. Probably not I suppose.

Don't think Hurst has played 3 at the back for any prolonged period of time, I expect him to stick with 2 CBs and Smith will probably start if he joins before Saturday. We have 2 defensive centre mids which gives us some flexibility with formation during matches.

It still wouldn’t surprise me if Hurst plays Green & Maher in the double pivot. Allows Efete and Glennon to play higher and provide the width we possibly lack.

The front four can then play more centrally.

Quoted from ska face

Wonder if Hurst’ll be tempted to look at 3 at the back of Smith does come in. Seems like an embarrassment of riches at CB and would be a shame for one of Smith, Maher and Waterfall to be stuck on the bench when all are fit. Probably not I suppose.

Hursty had absolutely no hesitation in benching Pearson in 15/16, when he’d been easily our best CB for 3-4 years before that when he thought Toto and Gowling were a better option. Having the options is ideal and Hursty will pick who he thinks are his best two CB’s, he won’t mess around.

It’s fantastic news though if true, it would mean almost all the core, bar Fox, from the playoffs remain, plus the additions of what appear like upgrades around that core.

We just need that illusive striker now.

Quoted from Surrey97

Believe Andy Smith’s season long loan is pretty much sorted. Will be announced in time for this weekend’s game.

I really hope that’s true

Smith is a major coup if true . A season long loan is great news

Quoted from It Bites

Smith is a major coup if true . A season long loan is great news

You missed your chance to say 'incoming'. ;)

Surrey has been mostly spot on so far. If this one is true, he can have the rumour league title.

Quoted from ginnywings

You missed your chance to say 'incoming'. ;)

Surrey has been mostly spot on so far. If this one is true, he can have the rumour league title.

Think we will have to double check with Ska first! 😂

Quoted from Mikey_345

Think we will have to double check with Ska first! 😂

Yeah, was forgetting myself.

Interestingly (well that’s subjective I suppose) I did hear the same about Smith on Sunday, abit of a formality now.

However I’ve never professed to be remotely “in the know”.

Quoted from ginnywings

You missed your chance to say 'incoming'. ;)

Surrey has been mostly spot on so far. If this one is true, he can have the rumour league title.

Nothing to do with the fact this came straight from Hulls manager in his interview 😂

Quoted from GyMariner

Nothing to do with the fact this came straight from Hulls manager in his interview 😂

Maybe he just had a shota in the dark

Burnsey tweeted today that Hull have a few injury concerns. I don’t know 1) how far down the pecking order Smith is and 2) if any of these were to CB’s, so if they were likely to affect our deal.

You’d think some relatively minor injuries wouldn’t scupper a deal like this but I’m always ultra pessimistic until it’s actually announced on the OS.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Where is Smith?

This is pure guess work based on typical Hursty shíthousery, but I imagine he'll have been training with Town for some considerable time before his signing is announced anywhere between 6pm on Friday and 2pm on Saturday.

All of the signs point to this happening and there's no way we'll be going into the game with only Waterfall and Pearson as our fit, senior centre halves.

Quoted from Poojah

This is pure guess work based on typical Hursty shíthousery, but I imagine he'll have been training with Town for some considerable time before his signing is announced anywhere between 6pm on Friday and 2pm on Saturday.

All of the signs point to this happening and there's no way we'll be going into the game with only Waterfall and Pearson as our fit, senior centre halves.

He was probably taking all the photos in Tenerife.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

He was probably taking all the photos in Tenerife.

I did wonder to myself as I was typing whether he might have been in Tenerife but omitted from any photos. Sounds unlikely but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest all the same.

Quoted from Poojah

This is pure guess work based on typical Hursty shíthousery, but I imagine he'll have been training with Town for some considerable time before his signing is announced anywhere between 6pm on Friday and 2pm on Saturday.

Smith announcement and interview all broadcast on the spanking new MarinersTV would be quite something😶

One in today or announced 11am Saturday?

Quoted from ska face

One in today or announced 11am Saturday?

Ska making a late surge up his own league table?

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Ska making a late surge up his own league table?

He's been up his own league table for years ;D

Quoted from ska face

One in today or announced 11am Saturday?

What you got against Friday?

Quoted from Poojah

This is pure guess work based on typical Hursty shíthousery, but I imagine he'll have been training with Town for some considerable time before his signing is announced anywhere between 6pm on Friday and 2pm on Saturday.

All of the signs point to this happening and there's no way we'll be going into the game with only Waterfall and Pearson as our fit, senior centre halves.

Yeah definitely this - anything to minimise info to the oppo manager, as far they're concerned we have a CD of pearson and Waterfall at the mo.

I listened to the podcast somebody kindly suggested on here the other day of Rotherham and Oxfords promotion run ins last year with the managers hooked up on microphones. In it the Rotherham manager talks about when the teams handover team sheets to each other and the ref the assistant manager slips it to the coach who takes it to the dressing room. Then he engages the oppo assistant manager in a conversation if possible, just to get tgeir own manager a 5 minute advantage of knowing what the other team is! So if managers do that then I am sure Hurst would like to keep the change to our CD under wraps if at all possible.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Ska making a late surge up his own league table?

Just asking the question, I’m a casual observer and - as scorekeeper - exempt from the penalties of finishing in the rumour mill relegation zone. Sorry, I don’t make the rules!

Quoted from lukeo

Loanee incoming :X

According to??

Quoted from lukeo

Loanee incoming :X

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Predicted back 4 Saturday;

Efete Waterfall Smith Glennon

They've played more games than me so my games in hand will hopefully come in handy

Quoted from GtfcGarner

According to??

There’s a reason you’re floating around that relegation zone with questions like that

Looking forward to seeing Smith in a Town shirt once more

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

It still wouldn’t surprise me if Hurst plays Green & Maher in the double pivot. Allows Efete and Glennon to play higher and provide the width we possibly lack.

The front four can then play more centrally.

That sounds delicious!

I did think we might, as ska face is saying, move to a back three especially as the Smith deal has been on the cards all summer really which leaves us with four good centrebacks.  I know Pearson is going to be fourth choice but Smith, Maher and Waterfall are all guys who will have solid claims for a starting place.  Indeed, all 3 will have signed a deal probably with the expectation of such.

But Maher moving further forward does allow that to happen without going to a back three.  Our fullbacks could easily play wingbacks, especially Efete and Glennon, plus you've got Clifton who is probably tailor made to be a wingback.  But in midfield I think we would be a bit light (even more so if Clifton is used as one of the wide lads)  Then there's also the issue of where would you fit Wearne, JMD, Khan and then Scannell when fit.

Was it a Halifax fan who said Maher is better in midfield than defence?  Sorta like a Nathan Pond for the 2020's.

Nice to have the options I guess!

Quoted from diehardmariner

That sounds delicious!

I did think we might, as ska face is saying, move to a back three especially as the Smith deal has been on the cards all summer really which leaves us with four good centrebacks.  I know Pearson is going to be fourth choice but Smith, Maher and Waterfall are all guys who will have solid claims for a starting place.  Indeed, all 3 will have signed a deal probably with the expectation of such.

But Maher moving further forward does allow that to happen without going to a back three.  Our fullbacks could easily play wingbacks, especially Efete and Glennon, plus you've got Clifton who is probably tailor made to be a wingback.  But in midfield I think we would be a bit light (even more so if Clifton is used as one of the wide lads)  Then there's also the issue of where would you fit Wearne, JMD, Khan and then Scannell when fit.

Was it a Halifax fan who said Maher is better in midfield than defence?  Sorta like a Nathan Pond for the 2020's.

Nice to have the options I guess!

Not sure about Maher being able to play in midfield, but green can play in defence, and impressed hurst a lot when he did so when they were down to 10 men and came back from 2-0 down to win 3-2.

https://twitter.com/grimsbytownlive/status/1552686377845882886?t=pHj30hFfEHPwXCy2HVx90w&s=19

Quoted from ska face

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Thank you very much. If you'd kindly like to update that league table please Ska >:(

Quoted from lukeo

Thank you very much. If you'd kindly like to update that league table please Ska >:(

Pleasure mate.

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You said a loan signing, too vague, up to the promotion places I go

I'll take that as a draw and you a win. I'll take that.

Smith is back so the defence is sorted. The question now is will we see a new striker in tomorrow?

Already relegated so wtf!

My Sunderland supporting mate reckons there is interest from a couple of league 2 teams in Harrison Sohna. Not saying we are one btw!

Quoted from diehardmariner

That sounds delicious!

I did think we might, as ska face is saying, move to a back three especially as the Smith deal has been on the cards all summer really which leaves us with four good centrebacks.  I know Pearson is going to be fourth choice but Smith, Maher and Waterfall are all guys who will have solid claims for a starting place.  Indeed, all 3 will have signed a deal probably with the expectation of such.

But Maher moving further forward does allow that to happen without going to a back three.  Our fullbacks could easily play wingbacks, especially Efete and Glennon, plus you've got Clifton who is probably tailor made to be a wingback.  But in midfield I think we would be a bit light (even more so if Clifton is used as one of the wide lads)  Then there's also the issue of where would you fit Wearne, JMD, Khan and then Scannell when fit.

Was it a Halifax fan who said Maher is better in midfield than defence?  Sorta like a Nathan Pond for the 2020's.

Nice to have the options I guess!

The first time I saw Nathan Pond play it was in midfield and he absolutely ran the show. But it wasn't his preferred position, which was centre-back. What a great combination of positions to have in your locker.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Already relegated so wtf!

My Sunderland supporting mate reckons there is interest from a couple of league 2 teams in Harrison Sohna. Not saying we are one btw!

You're like Dover trying to scrape to 0 points and a semblance of respectability.

Another one ready for Saturday, likely to be announced late Friday

Quoted from lukeo

Another one ready for Saturday, likely to be announced late Friday

nah.

I was relegated in a Scunthorpe United style 😂😂

Quoted from gtfc98

nah.

Agree, it's done - Orsi is our No. 9.& let's see how it it goes?

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Agree, it's done - Orsi is our No. 9.& let's see how it it goes?

On that subject, have squad numbers been released for this season? Haven’t seen them if they have.

Quoted from Poojah

On that subject, have squad numbers been released for this season? Haven’t seen them if they have.

Watch this space

Quoted from Poojah

On that subject, have squad numbers been released for this season? Haven’t seen them if they have.

My source within the club who absolutely CANNOT be named* tells me that the squad numbers will 100% be released sometime between now and 3pm GMT on Saturday. Watch this space.

*Paul Hurst's wife's best friend's next door neighbour's pet budgie.

Quoted from gtfc98

My source within the club who absolutely CANNOT be named* tells me that the squad numbers will 100% be released sometime between now and 3pm GMT on Saturday. Watch this space.

*Paul Hurst's wife's best friend's next door neighbour's pet budgie.

To be honest. That's more believable than some rumours on here.

Quoted from gtfc98

My source within the club who absolutely CANNOT be named* tells me that the squad numbers will 100% be released sometime between now and 3pm GMT on Saturday. Watch this space.

*Paul Hurst's wife's best friend's next door neighbour's pet budgie.

I heard in honour of Alhagi Touray Sisay getting a 2 year deal in League One all players will be wearing blank shirts on Saturday.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I heard in honour of Alhagi Touray Sisay getting a 2 year deal in League One all players will be wearing blank shirts on Saturday.

He firing blanks?

0 goals

Quoted from rancido

The first time I saw Nathan Pond play it was in midfield and he absolutely ran the show. But it wasn't his preferred position, which was centre-back. What a great combination of positions to have in your locker.

When we think back to the best loan players it naturally goes to Todd, Beasant, Oster, Kabba, Neilsen...those who stood out at a higher level. Even maybe those who then went onto sign for us like Woods, Mendonca, Livvo...or even those who had an instant impact at the lower level (even if they didn't sustain it), like Conlon, Sweeney, Hannah. Or the Henderson goalkeepers, the first definitely had an instant impact! I think Pond gets forgotten about a bit but he really was so good.

If my memory serves me right the wheels came off the season we had him when he went back, without checking I'm thinking 12/13? When he went back we had a bit of a mid-season splurge and brought in Hannah on a permanent deal, Brodie, Devitt came back and I think LJL came in too. But we didn't address the massive gap Pond left when he went back to Fleetwood. Had we held onto him, I'm in no doubt we would have gone up that season as Champions.

Quoted from ska face

Pleasure mate.

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This thread has become ace!
Pre-season has flown by

Got to say I've much preferred this than the usual swarm of rumours on their own threads, a lot easier to keep track of other threads etc.

Hopefully this can be the way to go next window.

Quoted from ska face

Pleasure mate.

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We are going up

Enjoy another season in Non League Lukeo

Quoted from Hagrid

We are going up

Enjoy another season in Non League Lukeo

There's another month until the window closes so this seems slightly presumptuous. Another 'Bennett is signing tomorrow' fiasco and you could still finish the season mired in mid-table mediocrity.

I’d be avoiding risking telling us about rumours now, with Hursty saying he only wants another two, maximum three, more players before the window closes so the chances of it being right diminish!

With great risk comes great reward

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

There's another month until the window closes so this seems slightly presumptuous. Another 'Bennett is signing tomorrow' fiasco and you could still finish the season mired in mid-table mediocrity.

blurgh, 1 mistake in a season of joy

can tell your a town fan, focusing on the negative ;)

Will we have names and numbers on the back of our shirts tomorrow? :)

Quoted from Mariner_09

I’d be avoiding risking telling us about rumours now, with Hursty saying he only wants another two, maximum three, more players before the window closes so the chances of it being right diminish!

That's not what my source told me.

Oooops...

Squad numbers are out and numbers 9 and 12 are conspicuously absent.

They should just do replica shirts with the number 12

Can't help but feel the vacant number 9 slot is us being gaslighted.

Took us until the end of January to fill the number 9 slot last season. In many ways, this window feels much like last year - a number of really positive, solid looking signings with a tinge of frustration that we don’t seem to have a standout goalscorer / number 9.

I think we’ll find a solution earlier this time around, though you’d infer from the release of the squad numbers that there’s probably nothing more incoming before tomorrow’s game.

Quoted from gtfc98

My source within the club who absolutely CANNOT be named* tells me that the squad numbers will 100% be released sometime between now and 3pm GMT on Saturday. Watch this space.

*Paul Hurst's wife's best friend's next door neighbour's pet budgie.

Was it tweeted?

Why don't they just fill all the numbers.
Taylor no 29
Essel no 39
Why, just why?
We dont have that number of players.
Maher 31 ????

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Why don't they just fill all the numbers.
Taylor no 29
Essel no 39
Why, just why?
We dont have that number of players.
Maher 31 ????

It's always said you give the younger lads higher numbers so they still realise they have work to do - quite common in football. As for Taylor and Maher, believe they are their favoured numbers so pretty sure they'd have asked for them.

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Why don't they just fill all the numbers.
Taylor no 29
Essel no 39
Why, just why?
We dont have that number of players.
Maher 31 ????

Maybe some players are superstitious and prefer a certain number?

i play Sunday league and i always choose 16

players just like certain numbers

John Terry wore 26 throughout his whole career, I doubt Trent is stuck with 66 and could change if he wanted. Top players use it for marketing

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Why don't they just fill all the numbers.
Taylor no 29
Essel no 39
Why, just why?
We dont have that number of players.
Maher 31 ????

Maher is born on the 31st - maybe its that

Quoted from horsforthmariner

Maher is born on the 31st - maybe its that

In February! ;D 8)

I've seen 2 versions of the squad numbers. One with 23 senior players and one which includes the 4 one year pros.
It is my understanding that you can register 25 senior players for your squad with homegrown 21 and under players not needing to be in this list.
Squad numbers 9 and 12 are still free to fill which would suggest 2 more spaces for new signings. But Goundry and Battersby, who turned 21 last week are in the 23 so possibly 4 spaces available in total if we need them.

Utm

Quoted from ska face

Pleasure mate.

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What do I win? 😉

Quoted from Surrey97

What do I win? 😉

neighbourhood watch, nosey parker who you dont tell a secret to of the year award

If you’re still top at the end of the window then you win eternal respect of the board. Sure GrimRob can turn your name gold or something until January.

Heard anything else on the old grape vine? I’m going with Josh Kayode in towards the end of August, based purely on wishful thinking.

Quoted from lukeo

Another one ready for Saturday, likely to be announced late Friday

As expected Lukeo plummets into the relegation places after another humiliating defeat ;)

Quoted from Stew0_0

I've seen 2 versions of the squad numbers. One with 23 senior players and one which includes the 4 one year pros.
It is my understanding that you can register 25 senior players for your squad with homegrown 21 and under players not needing to be in this list.
Squad numbers 9 and 12 are still free to fill which would suggest 2 more spaces for new signings. But Goundry and Battersby, who turned 21 last week are in the 23 so possibly 4 spaces available in total if we need them.

Utm

It's 22 Over 21's plus goalkeepers and an unlimited number of Under 21's.

Quoted from gtfc98

As expected Lukeo plummets into the relegation places after another humiliating defeat ;)

Bedtime already is it?

Quoted from lukeo

Bedtime already is it?

Are you going double or quits on this one? If there's no announcement by midnight that's a 30 point deduction and a transfer embargo!

Quoted from Brazilnut

neighbourhood watch, nosey parker who you dont tell a secret to of the year award

Quoted from gtfc98

Are you going double or quits on this one? If there's no announcement by midnight that's a 30 point deduction and a transfer embargo!

You do not create the rules my friend.
Haha

182 pages on currently averaging one new signing every 22.7 pages. If anybody other then the ten or so who pretend to be in the know still read this thread send me a green tick to prove it.

McAtee to Luton rumours rumbling on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/mattdannatt/status/1553663971919634432?t=qYlfgSFxsOAZw9PL2bSqPQ&s=19

With a heavy heart, if 500k is the fee and the player has made it clear he’s not going to sign, then we’d have to take it - especially with a few weeks left to run in the window aswell, as least we have a chance of reinvesting that money into the squad.

500K or lose on a free

No brainer

He’s got an ongoing injury and is out of contract in the summer. Some might not like it, but I think 500k would be good business.

I have mates in Luton. They reckon he would possibly be loaned back to us !!
Now that would be good business !!

I think 500k is fair given his contract situation. I'm sure this has been rumbling on for longer than we know but hopefully we can reinvest some of the money on some attacking players before the window closes.

I've had the feeling for a bit that he's been trying to force our hand by not agreeing an extension. £500k is probably the right price for him right now but it would leave us very thin in terms of attacking options. Would be a big blow, but can we afford to let him leave on a free in the summer?

Shouldnt Luton have had all of this done and dusted before the season kicked off, or at least made a bid in July, got knocked back and started off the ususal transfer bartering/unsettling the player drama.

To come in now, with all the McAtee shirts sold and for him to then demonstrate his magic shoulder-popping trick after 40 seconds of the new season tells me there's a fair bit of negotiations to come IF there's substance to the rumour.

Good players get bought by those higher up the food chain. It's always happened and will continue to happen. I never let it bother me as players come and go and if it were to happen, I would wish him well.

I would do the same in his position.

I think you’d have to be philosophical about it if it indeed happened. Whenever Town acquire the services of an exceptional talent, we’re never going to retain their services for much longer than a year in reality. It’s a model that the likes of Peterborough have made great success of; the key is doing a better job of reinvesting the transfer fee than we did with the Bogle money.

Emotions aside, signing a Scunny reject for next to nothing while in non-league and then turning him round for £500k+ a year later as a League Two club is not a disastrous scenario.

Fenty is in favour of the sale. All proceeds to the so called GTFC can

Quoted from HatTrickHero

Shouldnt Luton have had all of this done and dusted before the season kicked off, or at least made a bid in July, got knocked back and started off the ususal transfer bartering/unsettling the player drama.

To come in now, with all the McAtee shirts sold and for him to then demonstrate his magic shoulder-popping trick after 40 seconds of the new season tells me there's a fair bit of negotiations to come IF there's substance to the rumour.

I doubt there are many shirts with his name on as I don't think the club had EFL numbers until late on.

If a club higher in the pyramid come in for him, and he wants to go then fair enough, but players with half his ability have gone for a lot more than £500k if that is anywhere near the figure.

500 pays for a couple of decent strikers . He’s a great player we rely on but realistically he wants to play at as high a level as possible . No point losing him for nothing in the summer . . Add ons would surely bring in extra £ down the line as he’s got the potential to go further .

Got rid of 2 decent strikers in the window too soon imo

Quoted from Garth

Got rid of 2 decent strikers in the window too soon imo

What the ones that went to those big clubs Eastleigh and Halifax ?

Not fixing his shoulder in the summer and then having him on the pitch longer then anybody else in pressing friendlies was odd. Don’t suppose we will ever Know what has been going on behind the scenes.

Hurst is shrewd operator
Suspect this has been bubbling away all summer
If it happens then the 500k (I would hope/imagine) would be reinvested ins squad as Stockwood knows we need to be able to compete at sustainable level (not the cheap skate tenure of Fenty)

Therefore PH has not rushed into the transfer/loan market as there will be some very good options if we can offer a lot more money than some clubs

£500k for McAtee is no brainer - be sad to see him go but this has happened since football started so we move on...

Done well for us but it’s a no brainer if it’s half a mill go smash it lad in the championship

If this rumour is true and the transfer happens then the add-ons mentioned can be very attractive, depending on his progress and achievements.

£500k plus add one would be a good bit of business for a player that was great in the Conference but has only really shown flashes when he played in the EFL for Scunny.

As suggested, £500k could well get you 2 or 3 very good players, though finding a true like-for-like replacement would be tricky given McAtee’s unique playing style.

One player that sprang to mind was Cal Roberts at Notts County, but he just signed for Aberdeen a couple of days ago. What would Sbarra set you back? That surely wouldn’t be unrealistic on the back of a £500k transfer fee and the best part of 6k season ticket sales, would it?

Hasn’t he just signed an extension at Solihull?

Dallas at Solihull would be more of a like for like replacement if this was to happen.

I’d have their hands off for half a mil but I’m sure Hurst can squeeze another few quid out of them.

Quoted from mariner91

Dallas at Solihull would be more of a like for like replacement if this was to happen.

I’d take ‘em both.

I assume the 500k wouldn't go far for us as it has to go to JF. Butt if the rumour is true as much as I hate to lose him (especially after I tried to name our new puppy after him ((Mrs wasn't having any of it)) we have to let him go

Quoted from ginnywings

Good players get bought by those higher up the food chain. It's always happened and will continue to happen. I never let it bother me as players come and go and if it were to happen, I would wish him well.

I would do the same in his position.

I agree with you. £500K is great considering we paid next to nothing for him. My only concern is how much goes to Fenty under the Transfer Clause when he sold the club.

500k + add ons and a loan back for the season for a player out of contract at the end of the season.

Go on then.

Be gutted to see him leave but it is a business and in business terms it just makes sense.

Sell for £500+ then he's loaned back to end of season

The problem with letting him go is we have no one to replace him. And Hurst ability to sign a good replacement as well as a no 9 has been very poor over the last two seasons , we would soon start falling behind and playing catch up and you know where that can end up too well

intercourse that.
Keep him as long as possible, hope he takes this league by storm, sell in January for a excrement load, pay that money to Fenty and finally be rid of the parasite.

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Sell for £500+ then he's loaned back to end of season

Why on earth would Luton pay £500k and give him back for a year when he is out of contract at the end of the season?

Quoted from Poojah

As suggested, £500k could well get you 2 or 3 very good players, though finding a true like-for-like replacement would be tricky given McAtee’s unique playing style.

One player that sprang to mind was Cal Roberts at Notts County, but he just signed for Aberdeen a couple of days ago. What would Sbarra set you back? That surely wouldn’t be unrealistic on the back of a £500k transfer fee and the best part of 6k season ticket sales, would it?

Problem we have is all player sales go to fenty to get rid of him so that really would leave us in the sh!t I’d love to spend it all on 2/3 more quality strikers but in reality I don’t think we will have the funds to do that big loss if true

Quoted from HerveJosse

Why on earth would Luton pay £500k and give him back for a year when he is out of contract at the end of the season?

Because with a good season with us the interest in him may be much higher and gives them a much lower chance of signing him?

If they loaned him back surely it would be with instruction that he immediately had that op potentially ruing him out till December than give us time to get him match fit for them to have next season

Quoted from Wiley2405

Because with a good season with us the interest in him may be much higher and gives them a much lower chance of signing him?

We are taking about Luton not Manchester City or Liverpool

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Sell for £500+ then he's loaned back to end of season

I see a loan back has been mooted on Luton’s avenue of evil, but I can’t see it. He’s 23, and will need time playing alongside and against better players to truly fulfil his potential.

McAtee has been brilliant for us, absolutely no doubt about that whatsoever, but there are areas of his game (such as his decision making, as we saw at times yesterday) that will require improvement to play in the second tier.

Quoted from HerveJosse

We are taking about Luton not Manchester City or Liverpool

What you on about?

Quoted from HerveJosse

Why on earth would Luton pay £500k and give him back for a year when he is out of contract at the end of the season?

Because he's not quite good enough for the championship just yet and needs to develop further. Effectively you'd be asking a player to jump from the National League (where he's been playing all bar yesterday) to the Championship and force his way into a decent squad, really big ask that!

Personally if we could get £500K plus add on's and loaned back till the end of the Jan window then I reckon that's good business and gives PH enough time to look at suitable replacements both in terms of quality but also style of play.

The problem I think we have with McAtee is for him to really develop with us and have a similar impact this season like he did last term is he'll need at least 2/3 really good players around him week in week out and at the moment I'm not convinced our development as a squad will facilitate that.

If he goes for a good fee in enough time for us to recruit I'd be happy with that, the only thing on my mind here is how much would go to |Fenty considering he'd sold to the new owners when this player joined and had nothing to do with his time at the club.

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Problem we have is all player sales go to fenty to get rid of him so that really would leave us in the sh!t I’d love to spend it all on 2/3 more quality strikers but in reality I don’t think we will have the funds to do that big loss if true

How much still has to go to Fenty? We must be nearly done with him by now, surely?

Quoted from Poojah

How much still has to go to Fenty? We must be nearly done with him by now, surely?

Not sure. JS and AP agreed a 3 year repayment plan for £1.5m. So £500k should already have been paid as it's been over a year. We've sold a few young players plus had the sell-on for Dembele. Also Pollock went for £250k. I think someone worked out that we probably have around £200k to go, but I could be misremembering that.

Whilst his contract expires at the end of the season, he will still be 23 meaning we would get a fee at tribunal. I’m not sure we’re in a position where 500k is as attractive as it used to be.. and that doesn’t mean it isn’t a lot of money.

Accepting or not completely depends on the circumstances which none of us are fully aware of. What’s the add ons, is it unsettling McAtee, do we think he may sign an extension etc.

Puzzled why McAtee wouldn’t want to sign a new, improved deal anyway. It’s hardly going to stop him moving if someone comes in for him such as Luton and it’s always better to negotiate whilst your stock is high. He’s a bad season or an injury away from being in a little trickier situation.

If he wants to move then fine, let’s get as much as we can but I think an extra 500k in the coffers (minus whatever that sharp object gets) won’t really affect what we can do in the market to much anyway as Jason and Andrew have backed Hurst and I’m sure they would continue to do either way.

Don’t forget the stunts have a sell on clause according to Swann

Quoted from Mikey_345

Whilst his contract expires at the end of the season, he will still be 23 meaning we would get a fee at tribunal. I’m not sure we’re in a position where 500k is as attractive as it used to be.. and that doesn’t mean it isn’t a lot of money.

Accepting or not completely depends on the circumstances which none of us are fully aware of. What’s the add ons, is it unsettling McAtee, do we think he may sign an extension etc.

Puzzled why McAtee wouldn’t want to sign a new, improved deal anyway. It’s hardly going to stop him moving if someone comes in for him such as Luton and it’s always better to negotiate whilst your stock is high. He’s a bad season or an injury away from being in a little trickier situation.

If he wants to move then fine, let’s get as much as we can but I think an extra 500k in the coffers (minus whatever that sharp object gets) won’t really affect what we can do in the market to much anyway as Jason and Andrew have backed Hurst and I’m sure they would continue to do either way.

McAtee’s birthday is the 23rd July. How does that work in terms of tribunal? Is it based on the date his contract expires, or would our right to a tribunal disappear with the lighting of his birthday cake candles?

With the Dembele, Pollock and Grist money + the installment due last December he must have been paid up by now.

I reckon the fee will be free to use for whatever we need.

500k and loan until January to give us chance to find a replacement would be lovely. Should be enough to see JF off plus a little left over to go to PH

Quoted from Mikey_345

Whilst his contract expires at the end of the season, he will still be 23 meaning we would get a fee at tribunal. I’m not sure we’re in a position where 500k is as attractive as it used to be.. and that doesn’t mean it isn’t a lot of money.

Accepting or not completely depends on the circumstances which none of us are fully aware of. What’s the add ons, is it unsettling McAtee, do we think he may sign an extension etc.

Puzzled why McAtee wouldn’t want to sign a new, improved deal anyway. It’s hardly going to stop him moving if someone comes in for him such as Luton and it’s always better to negotiate whilst your stock is high. He’s a bad season or an injury away from being in a little trickier situation.

If he wants to move then fine, let’s get as much as we can but I think an extra 500k in the coffers (minus whatever that sharp object gets) won’t really affect what we can do in the market to much anyway as Jason and Andrew have backed Hurst and I’m sure they would continue to do either way.

The bigger picture is that we don't stop players progressing and that helps us recruit others. People suggesting most of it goes to Fenty but I don't think we owe him anything near £500k.

The first £500k installment was due by December 2021 - Balance £1m.
£250k for Pollock - Balance £750k
£100k Dembele Promotion Bonus - Balance £650k
£150k for Grist - Balance £500k

We got 25% of anything Peterborough got for Dembele over £200k. There was a promotion bonus too which we get 25% of so the Dembele sale should have covered most, if not all of that £500k.

There is a mooted 10-15% sell on as part of the tribunal for McAtee so we would lose £50-75k there but if we got £500k for him, I'd suggest at least £300k would be straight into the club coffers.

I accept that he would be hard to replace but if we can't get him tied down, I think selling would be the wise thing to do. He wasn't developed in our academy so any up front tribunal fee would be minimal next summer.

Surely McAtee's shoulder will need addressing sooner or later? Hurst said that a scan revealed a fracture and they chose to use an injection rather than go for an op. But if it's weakened and is likely to pop out regularly, surely he's risking further damage? Sounds like he'll have to have that op eventually.

£500k is the equivalent of another 1700 season tickets (near enough) at £300 a spin, or 25,000 tickets at £20 a pop.

Now we can’t physically sell another 1700 season tickets and it’s the same as putting another 1086 on the gate every match for the entire season.

Now don’t get me wrong, he’s a great player, but you can’t really argue at those numbers can you?

Quoted from HerveJosse

Why on earth would Luton pay £500k and give him back for a year when he is out of contract at the end of the season?

It's called humour 😉

Don't think it's true. Would be madness to sell our best player when we don't have any strikers.

We will get money for him because he's under 24.

Quoted from ska face

£500k is the equivalent of another 1700 season tickets (near enough) at £300 a spin, or 25,000 tickets at £20 a pop.

Now we can’t physically sell another 1700 season tickets and it’s the same as putting another 1086 on the gate every match for the entire season.

Now don’t get me wrong, he’s a great player, but you can’t really argue at those numbers can you?

The risk is we can't replace the quality and really struggle.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

The risk is we can't replace the quality and really struggle.

If we’re pinning all our hopes on one player, and can’t replace him with half a million quid then we really are in trouble.

Do we really want another Liam Hearn or Michael Reddy situation?

Quoted from ska face

If we’re pinning all our hopes on one player, and can’t replace him with half a million quid then we really are in trouble.

Do we really want another Liam Hearn or Michael Reddy situation?

Different times now. We need to be adding quality, not taking it away.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Different times now. We need to be adding quality, not taking it away.

Loads of players still without clubs. And loads of players that could be looking for a move (loan and permanent)

We won't get a lot if he leaves us at the of his contract as those fees reflect the development of a player. So if you've had them since they were kids then it might be decent but not if you picked them up in their early twenties.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Different times now. We need to be adding quality, not taking it away.

And we couldn’t achieve that with 500 grand? Ollie Palmer cost £300k for comparison, Tshimanga was £250k iirc. His value is unlikely to get any higher as every game he plays is 1 closer to him leaving ok a free (or for a negligible fee set at tribunal).

I really don't know why people keep making reference to the money owed to JF. That is a fixed cost agreed between parties and if we get 500k for McAtee, we are still 500k better off than we would have been irrespective of what is owed to JF.

I've long advocated for us to have the same model as Peterborough and the same model that our friends up the A180 were good at for a while. Identify young players, develop them and move them on for a profit. If a club want to pay us 500k for a player who has 1 year left on his contract, then take the money and run I say. He will move on for free anyway as he doesn't look likely to be signing a new contract.

500k is a big bargaining chip to bring in a replacement or two and I suspect that some of the players we have signed this close season are with an eye to this very thing happening. A couple of the new signings could play the role that McAtee does, or there could be a change of shape with the additions a 500k pot could add.

Other sides have sold their best assets, re-invested and still progressed up the leagues.

Quoted from ska face

And we couldn’t achieve that with 500 grand? Ollie Palmer cost £300k for comparison, Tshimanga was £250k iirc. His value is unlikely to get any higher as every game he plays is 1 closer to him leaving ok a free (or for a negligible fee set at tribunal).

I think the money is there for a striker now. We still can't get one.

I'm not sure the fee would be that negligible if he's had another good season. He'll have been here 2 years and played his best stuff here.

500k is no good to us if we struggle to spend it.

Another rumour doing the rounds is that we are talking to a Sheffield United legend about a player/coach position.

If he is still playing, and a legend, then it can only be a certain Mr Billy Sharp, surely?

Now he would solve the number 9 problem

https://twitter.com/lincs_andy/status/1553747013358993413

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Another rumour doing the rounds is that we are talking to a Sheffield United legend about a player/coach position.

If he is still playing, and a legend, then it can only be a certain Mr Billy Sharp, surely?

Now he would solve the number 9 problem

https://twitter.com/lincs_andy/status/1553747013358993413

Not really a number 9 and 15 goals in the Championship last season. Never gonna happen.

Agree it won't happen but how is he not really a number 9? Maybe not the type of number 9 who Hurst wants but very much a number 9 regardless.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Agree it won't happen but how is he not really a number 9? Maybe not the type of number 9 who Hurst wants but very much a number 9 regardless.

The modern number 9 tends to be a tall and powerful type of centre forward. Sharp is 5ft 9”.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Another rumour doing the rounds is that we are talking to a Sheffield United legend about a player/coach position.

If he is still playing, and a legend, then it can only be a certain Mr Billy Sharp, surely?

Now he would solve the number 9 problem

https://twitter.com/lincs_andy/status/1553747013358993413

Probably as realistic and the Cesc Fabregras rumour 😂

Quoted from Poojah

The modern number 9 tends to be a tall and powerful type of centre forward. Sharp is 5ft 9”.

It McAtee left, a change of plan would be required. Sharp and Taylor would be one hell of a front 2!

Pretty sure I read somewhere it's a fix fee BUT he gets any money from selling players etc?

14 goals in 39 championship appearances for Sharp last season - zero chance we get him

We've got more chance of signing Pat Sharp

Sharp, Fabregas and Bennett.

We'll be in the Prem inside three seasons.

Quoted from lukeo

Pretty sure I read somewhere it's a fix fee BUT he gets any money from selling players etc?

Good god how are people STILL misunderstanding this?

Quoted from lukeo

Pretty sure I read somewhere it's a fix fee BUT he gets any money from selling players etc?

Who does?

Quoted from lukeo

Pretty sure I read somewhere it's a fix fee BUT he gets any money from selling players etc?

The deal was £1.5m repaid in 3x £500k installments every December but all transfer income contributes towards that £1.5m.

He doesn't get transfer income until the end of time, only until £1.5m is paid back.

Quoted from lukeo

Pretty sure I read somewhere it's a fix fee BUT he gets any money from selling players etc?

If you owe someone money, isn’t it better to get them paid off asap so you can get them out of the picture? The sooner they pay him off the better.

The sooner everyone stops mentioning him the better.

Quoted from marinerjase

The sooner everyone stops mentioning him the better.

Who

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Who

Paul Heckingbottom. Gets 33.33% of Billy Sharp’s wages if he leaves per lukeo

Quoted from marinerjase

The sooner everyone stops mentioning him the better.

When £1,500,000 has been paid off the F word will probably never be mentioned again.

Quoted from DB

When £1,500,000 has been paid off the F word will probably never be mentioned again.

But we will need a new song

Quoted from DB

When £1,500,000 has been paid off the F word will probably never be mentioned again.

Give over.

Interesting to see that Sheff Utd have signed two strikers up to now, amongst all their other signings

Quoted from crusty ole pie

But we will need a new song

Needles stuck in the record, needs a few £100K to move it.

If we sell Mcatee for 500k then we should use that to buy Kabongo Tshimanga

Half decent through ball that

Quoted from HerveJosse

Half decent through ball that

Cryptic. Give us another clue

David Ball - Wellington Phoenix?

I'd normally have a realistic outlook on this and be accepting of a 500k sale (if rumoured figure is true), however, what worries me is how we're already very short up top as it is without losing our best talent.

If there's no loan back to us (I'd be surprised if there was, despite it being rumoured) then PH would obviously bring a couple of strikers in, but it'd be a big ask to bring in quality good enough to help us compete at this level at this stage. All of the available talent (unattached players) will have been snapped up by now so we're looking at loans from higher up the pyramid or buying outstanding talent from a lower level. I'm not saying we couldn't have success going down those routes with signings, but it'd be a challenge that's for sure.

I totally understand people saying we'd be daft to turn down 500k and risk losing him for nothing next summer, but what if we end up going down due to a shortage of creativity and firepower in the final third? How much £££ as a club would we lose out on with another relegation?

I realise this is a really negative outlook on it, but I guess my point would be, don't sign the paper work for this sale until we have 2 deals for quality strikers coming in ready to be signed as well.

Quoted from Tommy

I'd normally have a realistic outlook on this and be accepting of a 500k sale (if rumoured figure is true), however, what worries me is how we're already very short up top as it is without losing our best talent.

If there's no loan back to us (I'd be surprised if there was, despite it being rumoured) then PH would obviously bring a couple of strikers in, but it'd be a big ask to bring in quality good enough to help us compete at this level at this stage. All of the available talent (unattached players) will have been snapped up by now so we're looking at loans from higher up the pyramid or buying outstanding talent from a lower level. I'm not saying we couldn't have success going down those routes with signings, but it'd be a challenge that's for sure.

I totally understand people saying we'd be daft to turn down 500k and risk losing him for nothing next summer, but what if we end up going down due to a shortage of creativity and firepower in the final third? How much £££ as a club would we lose out on with another relegation?

I realise this is a really negative outlook on it, but I guess my point would be, don't sign the paper work for this sale until we have 2 deals for quality strikers coming in ready to be signed as well.

I completely get your point, but I think just due to how strong our defence look (on paper) we wouldn’t be going down.

Scoring goals may be a struggle, but if Hurst knows Mcatee is going, I’m sure there are people who he’s ready to get in to replace him asap, potentially for a large-ish fee.

I certainly don’t think we would be anywhere near promotion without him, however, I don’t think we would be relegated. Lower-mid table perhaps, but I couldn’t see us getting relegated. I think the team just needs a bit of time to gel to show what they’ve got.

Without knowing other teams strengths and weaknesses, on paper we don’t look like a side going down, as I’ve said, I think we have too strong of a defence to be losing every game, although as we stand I don’t think we’ll be scoring too many either.

We’ll be alright

when i saw Khan, Wearne and Orsi all signing i did post that i hoped they weren't replacements/options for McAtee leaving. As it's rumoured that this has been bubbling away for some time it seems like my fears were justified.

in a way i do hope that it has been a long running thing, because if so, Hurst will have been planning for the eventuality.

McAtee leaving? First I’ve heard of that. Can he score some league two goals please:)

Quoted from Tommy

I'd normally have a realistic outlook on this and be accepting of a 500k sale (if rumoured figure is true), however, what worries me is how we're already very short up top as it is without losing our best talent.

If there's no loan back to us (I'd be surprised if there was, despite it being rumoured) then PH would obviously bring a couple of strikers in, but it'd be a big ask to bring in quality good enough to help us compete at this level at this stage. All of the available talent (unattached players) will have been snapped up by now so we're looking at loans from higher up the pyramid or buying outstanding talent from a lower level. I'm not saying we couldn't have success going down those routes with signings, but it'd be a challenge that's for sure.

I totally understand people saying we'd be daft to turn down 500k and risk losing him for nothing next summer, but what if we end up going down due to a shortage of creativity and firepower in the final third? How much £££ as a club would we lose out on with another relegation?

I realise this is a really negative outlook on it, but I guess my point would be, don't sign the paper work for this sale until we have 2 deals for quality strikers coming in ready to be signed as well.

IF McAtee goes, and let’s not get ahead of ourselves just yet, with a high likelihood of top 5 crowds and a fresh, £500k transfer fee we should have one of the largest playing budgets in the division.

If that plays out, no way should we be contemplating relegation, and given how well the club is generally being run in the boardroom and on the training ground I’d be flabbergasted if we even ran close.

Fans would understandably see the loss of McAtee as a blow, but I imagine the outlook from those in charge would be more about it being the next phase in the club’s development.

Sign good players. Sell good players. It’s what good clubs do, and the fact there’s a sense of shock and dismay when the second part happens is merely a reflection that we haven’t done the first part often enough over the last couple of decades.

Quoted from Poojah

IF McAtee goes, and let’s not get ahead of ourselves just yet, with a high likelihood of top 5 crowds and a fresh, £500k transfer fee we should have one of the largest playing budgets in the division.

If that plays out, no way should we be contemplating relegation, and given how well the club is generally being run in the boardroom and on the training ground I’d be flabbergasted if we even ran close.

Fans would understandably see the loss of McAtee as a blow, but I imagine the outlook from those in charge would be more about it being the next phase in the club’s development.

Sign good players. Sell good players. It’s what good clubs do, and the fact there’s a sense of shock and dismay when the second part happens is merely a reflection that we haven’t done the first part often enough over the last couple of decades.

Re: the bit in bold - depends how we think of "playing budget." In terms of wages we'd offer and our overall wage bill, I wouldn't have thought the owners would increase either based on a one-off transfer fee that won't be replicated as an income next year. More likely where it'll give us extra weight is in the ability to spend it on a transfer fee buying someone.

Totally agree the club is being run fantastically well in the boardroom and on the training ground, but what's happening on the pitch has to keep up with that too. (I'm not saying it isn't or won't but the way).

Re: the bit not in bold - totally agree with that being the outlook of those in charge and of the aim to run the club in such a way. The worry remains for me is that other than McAtee we only have a class but ageing Taylor and an unknown quantity in Orsi. What gives me a bit of confidence about it all is knowing how meticulous Hurst is with planning and knowing players in different leagues.

If McAtee goes for only 500k it will be a very bad piece of business from the club.

But we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, for all we know, contract negotiations could already be well underway and McAtee is going to sign a new 4 year deal to become the clubs highest earner, and he could be as happy as a pig in shįte here. Now that would be a good piece of business from the club.

This is a tough one and made even more complicated by the problems he's having with his shoulder.

So the options we have are keep him and either sell him for less (maybe £100k) in January or take it to a tribunal at the end of the season or sell him now for £500k.

The risks to me of keeping him are really all about the shoulder situation; how long can he realistically go on with it popping out so easily? He needs that op and that's going to be at least a 3 month layoff. Then he needs to get match fit again, it could be that we don't have a fully fit McAtee until Christmas, at that point no one is going to pay what he's actually worth in january and we might lose him for next to nothing at a tribunal in the summer.

IF we do sell him now we'll get (reportedly) £500k in the bank and providing we don't have to use all of that to pay off the leech that's money we could use to buy a replacement, although i accept that it's not the ideal time to do so. If he was going to leave we'd ideally have wanted that to be a month ago.

It's a bad situation either way IMO, maybe people will disagree with me here but we were a bit of a one man team* at times last season. It'd no coincidence that the awful run of form coincided with his injury layoff. Looking at what we've got so far in terms of forward players it doesn't look to me like anything has changed in that regard. It's all great in hindsight obviously but I really wish we'd just got his bloody shoulder sorted straight after the final.

*EDIT - one man team isn't the right phrase to use, a little derogatory against the other players who were fantastic but we were certainly very reliant on him going forward and we look to be so again with how things are shaping up.

Quoted from PoutonStepover

If McAtee goes for only 500k it will be a very bad piece of business from the club.

But we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, for all we know, contract negotiations could already be well underway and McAtee is going to sign a new 4 year deal to become the clubs highest earner, and he could be as happy as a pig in shįte here. Now that would be a good piece of business from the club.

Not so sure myself for a player that has only done it in non league so far and crucially only has 1 year left on his deal.

Regardless of whether he goes or stays, PH knows we need more firepower and I expect it will appear before the window closes. Think he must have earned a certain level of trust as a manager by now.

If this story is true and if McAtee wants to go, then we have to ask ourselves whether keeping him for another year and turning down the money is beneficial in the long run, or if taking the money and re-investing it is more beneficial.

If he stays, It'll likely be for this season only anyway.

500k seems like a good fee to receive for someone in the last year of his contract.. if that is indeed true would be hard to turn down esp as player will probably want to go would imagine his wages would be life changing in championship...

If £500k gets you a ball playing midfielder such as Alex Hunt, an experienced striker or two and a replacement number 10 I’d probably take it. I love McAtee he’s a good player with talent but all things come to an end why not make that end work to our advantage?

When you look at Peterborough and the players they’ve let go, you can’t imagine they were as precious as we are about keeping hold of anyone worth a few quid. If you’ve got a manager who’s decent in the transfer market (as Hurst is) and a supportive board, then it could be an opportunity rather than a problem. Helicopter thinking. Synergy.

McAtee has had 1/2 to 3/4 quarters of a decent season in the National League. At £500k we should be snapping their hands off, we are more than one man and he is not irreplaceable.

McAtee is a class act.
It would be folly to let him go for a paltry £500K.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

McAtee is a class act.
It would be folly to let him go for a paltry £500K.

I totally agree with that. Players have signed for Championship clubs for huge sums who aren't fit to lace McAtee's boots.

Every which way is a gamble but for now, tell them hands off unless they offer decent money. Everybody in the game will be aware of McAtee and there may be other suitors with deeper pockets.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

McAtee has had 1/2 to 3/4 quarters of a decent season in the National League. At £500k we should be snapping their hands off, we are more than one man and he is not irreplaceable.

He was irreplaceable last season and would be this. Players of his ability are hard to find.

Hurst found him at Scunthorpe who almost got relegated to the conference. A bit of fùcking perspective here please gentleman

Quoted from PoutonStepover

If McAtee goes for only 500k it will be a very bad piece of business from the club.

But we don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, for all we know, contract negotiations could already be well underway and McAtee is going to sign a new 4 year deal to become the clubs highest earner, and he could be as happy as a pig in shįte here. Now that would be a good piece of business from the club.

I think 500k for a League 2 player with an injury issue and in the last year of his contract would be amazing business. Especially given our need to improve in other areas.

After an excellent start last season we struggled when he had 2 injury layoffs and a red card suspension. By chance or with the team improving, we managed to win all 3 playoff matches when he was not on the pitch. ( He had played his part in each match earlier).

This probably adds nothing to the debate other than the team can move forward if we lose him.

If he goes, he goes.

Said in my best Ivan Drago voice.

Just a reminder. If we get £500k for him, we won’t get all the money in one go. The vast majority of transfers are payments over 2-3 years.

Quoted from tashee69

Just a reminder. If we get £500k for him, we won’t get all the money in one go. The vast majority of transfers are payments over 2-3 years.

That depends entirely on negotiations.

All them crosses for reminding people that this isn’t Football Manager.🤣🤣🤣

Quoted from tashee69

Just a reminder. If we get £500k for him, we won’t get all the money in one go. The vast majority of transfers are payments over 2-3 years.

And therefore none of our transfer payments would be (should we make them) so it evens out

Quoted from toontown

And therefore none of our transfer payments would be (should we make them) so it evens out

I know. I was using it to advise those who was saying we’d clear the Fenty debt due to transfers coming in.

£500k for a player that has had little impact in the football league for various reasons. Hurst plucked him from a side that should’ve gone down, he’s an excellent player and a fans favourite but Hurst could find another, May be he already has, Christ, we’ve only played one game…

Not so much a rumour, but surprised that Sam Winnall hasn't got a club yet. He played 20 times in a good Oxford side last season and whilst goals were hard to come by he's had a pretty good career and you'd think he'd do a job for a league 2 club (us perhaps being one of them).

Quoted from gtfc98

Not so much a rumour, but surprised that Sam Winnall hasn't got a club yet. He played 20 times in a good Oxford side last season and whilst goals were hard to come by he's had a pretty good career and you'd think he'd do a job for a league 2 club (us perhaps being one of them).

Winnall has started less than 40 games, in all comps, in the last 5 and a half years. His career has been on a massive downward spiral for years. Would be a huge gamble. Lots of rumours about poor attitude too. Not for me

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

McAtee has had 1/2 to 3/4 quarters of a decent season in the National League. At £500k we should be snapping their hands off, we are more than one man and he is not irreplaceable.

Agree with the second part but let’s not downplay it as a ‘decent season’, he was probably the best player we’ve ever had at that level

Quoted from gtfc98

Not so much a rumour, but surprised that Sam Winnall hasn't got a club yet. He played 20 times in a good Oxford side last season and whilst goals were hard to come by he's had a pretty good career and you'd think he'd do a job for a league 2 club (us perhaps being one of them).

Same goes for the likes of Isaac Vassell, Izzy Brown, Caolan Lavery among others. It’s just getting the (right) person through the door

Quoted from Superdan147

Winnall has started less than 40 games, in all comps, in the last 5 and a half years. His career has been on a massive downward spiral for years. Would be a huge gamble. Lots of rumours about poor attitude too. Not for me

Karl Robinson said pretty much the opposite on releasing him regarding attitude

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61345089

Quoted from pontoonlew

Agree with the second part but let’s not downplay it as a ‘decent season’, he was probably the best player we’ve ever had at that level

Bogle, Amond, Disley, Nolan, Hearn, Connell, just off the top of my head I would put ahead of McAtee.

https://twitter.com/LowerTiers/status/1552322045224026112?t=OhjjcsdlGrgbTMDNXhL8_Q&s=19

According to this he's on trial with Burton so suppose he'll sign there.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Bogle, Amond, Disley, Nolan, Hearn, Connell, just off the top of my head I would put ahead of McAtee.

Hearn maybe if he'd stayed fit. Nolan on a par. The rest not even close.

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Bogle, Amond, Disley, Nolan, Hearn, Connell, just off the top of my head I would put ahead of McAtee.

Only Hearn comes close in that list for all round ability

Quoted from TheRealJohnLewis

Bogle, Amond, Disley, Nolan, Hearn, Connell, just off the top of my head I would put ahead of McAtee.

Not for me except maybe Hearn at his best

McAtee is the best player we’ve had in a very long time. Excellent t finisher, bags full of energy, skilful, can beat a man, can win a challenge, great cross on him, great set piece delivery.

He’s the reason we play how we play, in the formation we play. As long as we have him in the team, we won’t play a ‘proper’ number 9 up top, as we need a big man ala Taylor to accommodate McAtee in the game properly.

Be absolutely gutted if we lose him, not gonna lie. If we do, we may change the way we play, unless Wearne or Khan can play his role to a decent level.

I would go out on a limb here and say John McAtee is the most technically gifted player I have ever seen in a Town shirt in the 24 years I have supported this club.

His reading of the game is years above his age, the timing of his runs, his link up play with Holohan and Taylor is a joy to watch.

I think he is virtually irreplaceable if we lost him at this stage of the season, given the obvious lack of quality forwards available.

Quoted from sam gy

McAtee is the best player we’ve had in a very long time. Excellent t finisher, bags full of energy, skilful, can beat a man, can win a challenge, great cross on him, great set piece delivery.

He’s the reason we play how we play, in the formation we play. As long as we have him in the team, we won’t play a ‘proper’ number 9 up top, as we need a big man ala Taylor to accommodate McAtee in the game properly.

Be absolutely gutted if we lose him, not gonna lie. If we do, we may change the way we play, unless Wearne or Khan can play his role to a decent level.

Agree with everything you've said there!

I'm not confident Kahn will be fit for the majority of the season, just a hunch.

I've really liked Wearne on the handful of occasions I've seen him pre season.

I also think Orsi would suit the McAtee role rather than further forward, because he can't head a ball and doesn't even look at it when its coming near him anywhere above chest height.

Quoted from PoutonStepover

I would go out on a limb here and say John McAtee is the most technically gifted player I have ever seen in a Town shirt in the 24 years I have supported this club.

His reading of the game is years above his age, the timing of his runs, his link up play with Holohan and Taylor is a joy to watch.

I think he is virtually irreplaceable if we lost him at this stage of the season, given the obvious lack of quality forwards available.

So what you’re saying is that he belongs at a higher level. And, therefore, would want to play at a higher level. In that case, we should accept the highest offer we can get and use the money and the rest of the window very wisely.

Would hate to see him leave, but I’d take the 500k and enquire about taking him on loan for the remainder of the season, winner winner.

Harrogate can’t agree a fee for Jack Diamond so if McAtee goes maybe he becomes a realistic option? Like others say I would be sorry to see him leave but that’s football and players move on at every level so as I often say to my lad it’s not who you lose it’s who you replace them with.

I do hope McAtee doesn't read this thread or we've lost him. Hearn is closest in quality and could stick away chances like McAtees in the PO Final but wouldn't even have thought about trying an effort like McAtees vs Wrexham.

Can't believe the 'we'll get bags of cash and just replace him' attitude, what happened to the momentum of promotion?
I'd be gutted to lose him, as would a chunk of those fans that help us set the ST record sales who want to see the Town talisman play.

Final thought, it wasn't too long ago that Luton were drifting aimlessly in the NL along with us. They picked themseleves up, got investment and built a team that got them promoted and carried on doing so. I had hoped we'd be looking to do the same, parts of this thread suggest pound signs is some fans eyes and that settling for mid table L2 status is enough.
Some clarification from Town on this and McAtees potential extension/refusal would be helpful, mind.

Quoted from HatTrickHero

I do hope McAtee doesn't read this thread or we've lost him. Hearn is closest in quality and could stick away chances like McAtees in the PO Final but wouldn't even have thought about trying an effort like McAtees vs Wrexham.

Can't believe the 'we'll get bags of cash and just replace him' attitude, what happened to the momentum of promotion?
I'd be gutted to lose him, as would a chunk of those fans that help us set the ST record sales who want to see the Town talisman play.

Final thought, it wasn't too long ago that Luton were drifting aimlessly in the NL along with us. They picked themseleves up, got investment and built a team that got them promoted and carried on doing so. I had hoped we'd be looking to do the same, parts of this thread suggest pound signs is some fans eyes and that settling for mid table L2 status is enough.
Some clarification from Town on this and McAtees potential extension/refusal would be helpful, mind.

Yes - I for one would be frustrated if we let our talisman go for (at today's prices) peanuts when we should be kicking on and adding further quality not taking it away.

It is very hard to replace exceptional players as we have out to our cost in previous seasons and it would take the wind out of our sails somewhat.

Quoted from HatTrickHero

I do hope McAtee doesn't read this thread or we've lost him. Hearn is closest in quality and could stick away chances like McAtees in the PO Final but wouldn't even have thought about trying an effort like McAtees vs Wrexham.

Can't believe the 'we'll get bags of cash and just replace him' attitude, what happened to the momentum of promotion?
I'd be gutted to lose him, as would a chunk of those fans that help us set the ST record sales who want to see the Town talisman play.

Final thought, it wasn't too long ago that Luton were drifting aimlessly in the NL along with us. They picked themseleves up, got investment and built a team that got them promoted and carried on doing so. I had hoped we'd be looking to do the same, parts of this thread suggest pound signs is some fans eyes and that settling for mid table L2 status is enough.
Some clarification from Town on this and McAtees potential extension/refusal would be helpful, mind.

Do you think Luton didn't have players plucked from them along the way to where they are now?

Most teams who progress up the leagues will have their best players cherry picked and the well run ones will re-invest the money in more and better players.

Plenty of talk about the rumoured fee being peanuts - perhaps one of the resident stattos can help but when was the last time someone in L2 went for half a million quid? The ever-reliable transfermarkt.co.uk would have this down as the 4th highest fee for a L2 player ever, behind Jon Stead. Like I said elsewhere, Ollie Palmer - proven at this league and the one above- went for just over half of the £500k supposedly on the table.

It’s not about taking the money just for the sake of it, it’s about using that to make some decent long-term replacements so that we’re not having this discussion in Jan when he could be 20-games away from leaving on a free.

I think we’ve also got major problems if we persist with a system or a belief where we’re hopeless unless McAtee has a good game.

Quoted from HatTrickHero

I do hope McAtee doesn't read this thread or we've lost him. Hearn is closest in quality and could stick away chances like McAtees in the PO Final but wouldn't even have thought about trying an effort like McAtees vs Wrexham.

Can't believe the 'we'll get bags of cash and just replace him' attitude, what happened to the momentum of promotion?
I'd be gutted to lose him, as would a chunk of those fans that help us set the ST record sales who want to see the Town talisman play.

Final thought, it wasn't too long ago that Luton were drifting aimlessly in the NL along with us. They picked themseleves up, got investment and built a team that got them promoted and carried on doing so. I had hoped we'd be looking to do the same, parts of this thread suggest pound signs is some fans eyes and that settling for mid table L2 status is enough.
Some clarification from Town on this and McAtees potential extension/refusal would be helpful, mind.

I can certainly see both sides of the argument. For one, if we were to get £500k + addons, it would be a nice bit of business, considering Mcatee would likely leave for free at the end of the season. I think peoples rationale is that if we can get money for him, and strengthen multiple areas of our squad then we would potentially be in a better position for next season.
However, he is obviously an amazing player who we would truly miss, and would be very hard to replace. If we weren't able to get the correct personal in, then I think we would certainly be floating around the lower-mid table positions. But if we were to sign a couple more players and keep Mcatee for the season, we could potentially be involved in a play off push.

I think there's good arguments for both sides of this, so at the minute I'm sat on the fence

Quoted from HatTrickHero

I do hope McAtee doesn't read this thread or we've lost him. Hearn is closest in quality and could stick away chances like McAtees in the PO Final but wouldn't even have thought about trying an effort like McAtees vs Wrexham.

Can't believe the 'we'll get bags of cash and just replace him' attitude, what happened to the momentum of promotion?
I'd be gutted to lose him, as would a chunk of those fans that help us set the ST record sales who want to see the Town talisman play.

Final thought, it wasn't too long ago that Luton were drifting aimlessly in the NL along with us. They picked themseleves up, got investment and built a team that got them promoted and carried on doing so. I had hoped we'd be looking to do the same, parts of this thread suggest pound signs is some fans eyes and that settling for mid table L2 status is enough.
Some clarification from Town on this and McAtees potential extension/refusal would be helpful, mind.

Luton sold their best player, Andre Gray, to a Championship team the season they got promoted from the conference. Unfortunately, it’s part of football at this level and exceptional players are always going to move up the pyramid. Realistically if a good offer from a Championship team is on the table it’s very hard for us to stand in any players way.

The trick is finding suitable replacements and investing the money wisely.

Quoted from ska face

Plenty of talk about the rumoured fee being peanuts - perhaps one of the resident stattos can help but when was the last time someone in L2 went for half a million quid? The ever-reliable transfermarkt.co.uk would have this down as the 4th highest fee for a L2 player ever, behind Jon Stead. Like I said elsewhere, Ollie Palmer - proven at this league and the one above- went for just over half of the £500k supposedly on the table.

It’s not about taking the money just for the sake of it, it’s about using that to make some decent long-term replacements so that we’re not having this discussion in Jan when he could be 20-games away from leaving on a free.

Not sure what his contract situation is but could he sign a pre contract agreement with another side in Jan? That's only 5 months away.

On another point, our signing of Maher and Green from a successful Halifax side was celebrated as good business. We took their best players because we could. It's how the pyramid works.

A couple of their fans came on here and told us that they were gutted to lose them but realise it's inevitability and wished them and us well.

This won’t have been sprung about Hurst. He will have a contingency should McAtee go.

In a little over 12 months we picked up a player for a nominal fee who helped us win promotion and we can hopefully realise a healthy profit on. It makes perfect business sense to cash in on an asset that is 6 months away from walking away for nothing.

I doubt we will get £500k for him I would say half of that is more realistic though I imagine any fee will end up undisclosed.

Quoted from ginnywings

Not sure what his contract situation is but could he sign a pre contract agreement with another side in Jan? That's only 5 months away.

On another point, our signing of Maher and Green from a successful Halifax side was celebrated as good business. We took their best players because we could. It's how the pyramid works.

A couple of their fans came on here and told us that they were gutted to lose them but realise it's inevitability and wished them and us well.

Most of this discussion seems based on the supposition that he doesn’t want to progress up the football pyramid and that he would actually prefer to remain at a club based in a remote area with a rundown stadium. Get what we can for him and use the money wisely - before he’s worth nothing at all.

Given the situation with his shoulder I think the whole story is bunkum to be honest, unless Luton really think they need to get in now to secure his signature.
Bottom line is we're going to have to get used to being without him quite soon because he's going to be out for 8-10 weeks, so if we can get money for him we should take it and let Luton sort his injury out. That seems unrealistic but football doesn't seem to operate like any other business

strongly said that this is now a done deal

I personally think 500K for a player with a year left on his deal is good business. and if you think otherwise, your head is in the clouds

Quoted from jamesgtfc

The bigger picture is that we don't stop players progressing and that helps us recruit others. People suggesting most of it goes to Fenty but I don't think we owe him anything near £500k.

The first £500k installment was due by December 2021 - Balance £1m.
£250k for Pollock - Balance £750k
£100k Dembele Promotion Bonus - Balance £650k
£150k for Grist - Balance £500k

We got 25% of anything Peterborough got for Dembele over £200k. There was a promotion bonus too which we get 25% of so the Dembele sale should have covered most, if not all of that £500k.

There is a mooted 10-15% sell on as part of the tribunal for McAtee so we would lose £50-75k there but if we got £500k for him, I'd suggest at least £300k would be straight into the club coffers.

I accept that he would be hard to replace but if we can't get him tied down, I think selling would be the wise thing to do. He wasn't developed in our academy so any up front tribunal fee would be minimal next summer.

Do any of us know the detail of this contract clause?

I think we understand the basics, i.e. the club pays Fenty £1.5m in scheduled instalments, but he gets his money sooner if we receive money from player sales. However, for all we know that might be restricted to players contracted to the club when Fenty was at the helm. If that were the case, any profit from the sale of McAtee would be irrelevant to the timing of payments made to him.

Quoted from Hagrid

strongly said that this is now a done deal

I personally think 500K for a player with a year left on his deal is good business. and if you think otherwise, your head is in the clouds

Might well explain his desperation to score on Saturday if he thought it was going to be his farewell game,and why he didn't play clifton in.

I remember Bogle being the same away at stevenage when he so clearly wanted to score in what he obviously thought could well be his last match in a town shirt, disrupted his usual game.

Quoted from SouthLakesMariner

Do any of us know the detail of this contract clause?

I think we understand the basics, i.e. the club pays Fenty £1.5m in scheduled instalments, but he gets his money sooner if we receive money from player sales. However, for all we know that might be restricted to players contracted to the club when Fenty was at the helm. If that were the case, any profit from the sale of McAtee would be irrelevant to the timing of payments made to him.

Pretty irrelevant, isn’t it? Jason and Andrew agreed to pay him the money and budgeted accordingly. We’re already a million in credit from promotion prize money etc, it just speeds up the process, hopefully.

It’s happening, this is how you run a successful football club and build for the future. Good business IMO

Sounds like we’re getting him back on loan

Quoted from pontoonlew

It’s happening, this is how you run a successful football club and build for the future.

Sounds like we’re getting him back on loan

exactly. folk cant seem to grasp that to succeed, you have to sell, particularly our level

Quoted from Hagrid

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exactly. folk cant seem to grasp that to succeed, you have to sell, particularly our level

Precisely this. Add to the fact that his brother is destined for great things, he’s bound to want to play at the highest level possible.

If we can get a good fee that means cash now and we keep him on loan for a while that is a good deal IMHO. If we lose him now and get decent cash well that's the way it works and has done for decades.

The thing that will stick in my throat would be if Fenty gets any money from this considering JM wasn't even at the club when Fenty sold, but there you go I guess that's the deal so it will need to stand.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

If we can get a good fee that means cash now and we keep him on loan for a while that is a good deal IMHO.

The thing that will stick in my throat would be if Fenty gets any money from this considering JM wasn't even at the club when Fenty sold, but there you go I guess that's the deal so it will need to stand.

Got to say it, but it’s time to let the Fenty thing go, it’s Andrew and Jason’s deal with him and nothing to do with us. The sooner he’s paid off, the sooner we forget him.

If indeed the deal is £500k plus add-ons and we get him back on loan until the end of the season, I think that’s an excellent piece of business. I get that this will be decisive and some will strongly disagree, but I think that head needs to rule over heart on this one.

If we've wanged a hefty sell on clause in there as well i'll be over the moon with this.

Get Barry Fry on the blower and tell him we got the next Dembele/Bennett for them make a bidding war out of it.

500k is a good fee for both teams.
Mcatee gets his chance higher up
Luton don't have to fight and pay more wages by trying to get him for free at the end of the season.

And if he does get loaned back, its a great transfer for all involved.

Mcatee's talent is one we won't see again for a very long time

It’s a cracking deal for all parties (if correct) - he’s done that well that he deserves the opportunity to progress. The club deserve to get rewarded for giving him the opportunity to flourish. And isn’t that the whole point/aim?? To improve players? And at the same time with improvement of players we do too? That’s the ideal scenario for any lower league club.

Furthermore - I recall PH’s quote when he signed for us, when no disrespect meant but he wasn’t well known..- ‘I think he’s one the fans will like’

Brilliant business imho..for all concerned. Will watch with interest if/when he moves and wish him well.

Quoted from Hagrid

strongly said that this is now a done deal

I personally think 500K for a player with a year left on his deal is good business. and if you think otherwise, your head is in the clouds

I hope your source is reliable, as it all seems a good deal to me £500K in the bank and the use of the player till the end of the season.

Quoted from DB

I hope your source is reliable, as it all seems a good deal to me £500K in the bank and the use of the player till the end of the season.

no inside knowledge on this one DB, just going off internet and in person chatter

Quoted from Chrisblor

If we've wanged a hefty sell on clause in there as well i'll be over the moon with this.

This.

If Mcatee's a success at Luton he suddenly becomes a hugely valuable player. Ollie Watkins left Exeter for around a million, 3 years of championship football and he was worth £33m!

Quoted from marinerjase

Furthermore - I recall PH’s quote when he signed for us, when no disrespect meant but he wasn’t well known..- ‘I think he’s one the fans will like’

Quite happy to hold my hands up and say I was slightly underwhelmed when we signed McAtee.

Various stints in regional non-league while at Shrewsbury, followed by a measly 4 goals in 49 games in a poor Scunny side. It’s easy to re-write history but there was absolutely no way I thought we were getting anything like the player we got.

All of which is why I don’t have a career in football. What a player.

Surely a club like Luton can't afford to sign a player for 500 grand and then loan him back to us?

If they're paying a fee he will be in and around there team surely.

They only spent 1.5 million in fees on their play off team.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Surely a club like Luton can't afford to sign a player for 500 grand and then loan him back to us?

If they're paying a fee he will be in and around there team surely.

They only spent 1.5 million in fees on their play off team.

I feel like that as well, they don't have huge money. Potentially they have slightly more after their play off campaign, but I wouldn't think they would give him back to us for the whole season. Until January is maybe more feasible, but I think even that could be bit of stretch.

Quoted from Marinerdan

Luton sold their best player, Andre Gray, to a Championship team the season they got promoted from the conference. Unfortunately, it’s part of football at this level and exceptional players are always going to move up the pyramid. Realistically if a good offer from a Championship team is on the table it’s very hard for us to stand in any players way.

The trick is finding suitable replacements and investing the money wisely.

But Andre Gray was in no way comparable to McAtee, selling him would barely have raised a shrug. There's been a lot of fans captivated by Towns playoff displays, and McAtee was central to that. It's also a potentially big disruption to the season, not a case of getting a lump sum straight into the coffers and going shopping for a new player of the same standard. Finding a No 9 has been difficult enough.

Surely in our interests (and his) for him to stay, prove his fitness and see what's what in January, where we could start a bidding war for him if he proves himself at L2 level, or he decides to stay and help us to promotion and play at a higher level under a manager he impicitly trusts.

If they are loaning him back to us which I still see as unlikely then he is still their player and they will not want him playing on with an injury that eventually will need several weeks out after repair.

Luton have a plethora of forwards.

Maybe a part exchange could be possible if the alleged 500k is too much to pay out.

Either that or Luton may pay in instalments.

One of my mates is a lifelong Luton fan and he has said with the current squad, McAtee wouldn't get a game. So maybe the loan back might be an option

Quoted from HatTrickHero

But Andre Gray was in no way comparable to McAtee, selling him would barely have raised a shrug. There's been a lot of fans captivated by Towns playoff displays, and McAtee was central to that. It's also a potentially big disruption to the season, not a case of getting a lump sum straight into the coffers and going shopping for a new player of the same standard. Finding a No 9 has been difficult enough.

Surely in our interests (and his) for him to stay, prove his fitness and see what's what in January, where we could start a bidding war for him if he proves himself at L2 level, or he decides to stay and help us to promotion and play at a higher level under a manager he impicitly trusts.

Highly unlikely our hand is stronger in January, with only a matter of months left on his contract. Peterborough keep getting mentioned on this thread but they do seem to get this side of things right; they transfer list every player who gets to within a single year of their contract expiration as their value decreases significantly from that point on.

Obviously if we get 500k or more and he is loaned back to us for the full season then that would be more acceptable, but that is pure speculation. Mind you all this is speculation till we hear something official.

The club will need to handle this right though. Weve sold circa 6000 season tickets and the feel good factor is exceptional so to lose your best player who is irreplaceable in my view might rock the boat a bit.

I'd be very surprised for a loan for the whole season, delighted if true obviously. But why bother buying him in that case. A loan back until Jan with him having his shoulder op and recovery during that time maybe (so only available to us for a couple of months).

Just had it confirmed that he has gone. Been loaned back to us til the end of the season. Unsure of the exact finances just know that McAtee has told everyone at Cheapside this morning.

Quoted from HatTrickHero

But Andre Gray was in no way comparable to McAtee, selling him would barely have raised a shrug. There's been a lot of fans captivated by Towns playoff displays, and McAtee was central to that. It's also a potentially big disruption to the season, not a case of getting a lump sum straight into the coffers and going shopping for a new player of the same standard. Finding a No 9 has been difficult enough.

Surely in our interests (and his) for him to stay, prove his fitness and see what's what in January, where we could start a bidding war for him if he proves himself at L2 level, or he decides to stay and help us to promotion and play at a higher level under a manager he impicitly trusts.

Gray scored 30 goals in his last season for Luton and got a load of assists too, he also won multiple player of the year awards. He was at least as important to Luton as Mcatee is to us.

Ultimately it comes down to what the player wants, if true it's a chance to prove himself at a much higher level, with better coaches, bigger spotlight and significantly more money. If we turn down an offer that appears to be acceptable we risk ended up trying to keep a player here who wants to leave, and can do so for free in 11 months time.

Quoted from Poojah

Highly unlikely our hand is stronger in January, with only a matter of months left on his contract. Peterborough keep getting mentioned on this thread but they do seem to get this side of things right; they transfer list every player who gets to within a single year of their contract expiration as their value decreases significantly from that point on.

They also keep their better players for longer than a season usually. They have also been happy to not sell until it suits them, they made Dembele wait till January and still got good money for him.
If he has a good first half of the season the money will still be there.
Plus Peterborough always seem to have the next signing lined up.

I absolutely agree we should be signing players, developing them and selling them off at a profit.
I just don't see how selling our only fit striker when the season has started makes sense.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

They also keep their better players for longer than a season usually. They have also been happy to not sell until it suits them, they made Dembele wait till January and still got good money for him.
If he has a good first half of the season the money will still be there.
Plus Peterborough always seem to have the next signing lined up.

I absolutely agree we should be signing players, developing them and selling them off at a profit.
I just don't see how selling our only fit striker when the season has started makes sense.

I have full confidence that if the rumour is true (as looks increasingly likely to be the case) that the whole situation will be handled significantly better than player sales were previously in the Fenty era. The Bogle sale and subsequent action for instance was grossly mishandled, and we got next to no value back from the circa £1m spent on Yussuf, Clements, Asante, Osborne, Gunning and Jones.

I expect that this scenario will have been anticipated, the club will have negotiated the best possible deal (which I certainly think £500k, add-ons and a loan-back would represent) and the next move will be planned. 1878 will be well aware that the sale of McAtee would upset fans, many of whom were tempted to by season tickets in no small part due to his captivating goals and performances in the play-offs, and I would expect our subsequent signings in the window to be suitably impressive as to offset any ire or disappointment.

Whilst there has been the odd minor blemish, all of the big decisions of the last 14 months have been absolutely spot on and I have no reason to expect that won't be the case here.

People are going to be disappointed if they think it’s 500k

Quoted from pontoonlew

People are going to be disappointed if they think it’s 500k

well whatever it is, it needs to be invested back into the squad

Quoted from pontoonlew

People are going to be disappointed if they think it’s 500k

Do go on…

Personally I'm not a fan of the loan back. Yes he's a good player but we want togetherness in the squad and having a key member of the squad who isn't really fussed what league we play in next season isn't helpful.

Quoted from LondonMariner43

Personally I'm not a fan of the loan back. Yes he's a good player but we want togetherness in the squad and having a key member of the squad who isn't really fussed what league we play in next season isn't helpful.

I’m fairly sure Mcatee will still give 100% and regardless of what club he’s at in the future will look back his time here fondly And will always want us to do well and succeed.

Quoted from LondonMariner43

Personally I'm not a fan of the loan back. Yes he's a good player but we want togetherness in the squad and having a key member of the squad who isn't really fussed what league we play in next season isn't helpful.

We best send Smith back then.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Obviously if we get 500k or more and he is loaned back to us for the full season then that would be more acceptable, but that is pure speculation. Mind you all this is speculation till we hear something official.

The club will need to handle this right though. Weve sold circa 6000 season tickets and the feel good factor is exceptional so to lose your best player who is irreplaceable in my view might rock the boat a bit.

Thats the beauty of season tickets money in adavance regardless of results or lose a player to injury or transfer, have a bad start and they is no way he would get 6000 a game. IMO transfer window should shut when the season starts.

Quoted from Wiley2405

I’m fairly sure Mcatee will still give 100% and regardless of what club he’s at in the future will look back his time here fondly And will always want us to do well and succeed.

Everything points to this being good business as long as the price is enough to give some good buying power for another striker. Everything I’ve seen from him so far suggests he will give nothing less than 100%. He’s charismatic and feisty and loves the fans - he’s got a season playing in front of near full houses and 1000 plus away followings - does anyway seriously think he’d rather be fecking about in Luton reserves?

What ever happens, we either keep a star player, get good money for him before his contract expires or get a loan back. If a player wants to leave a club (for good reasons) and he is wanted by bigger clubs then there is nothing we can do.

It is just that the timing could be better. (If any of this is true).

Quoted from pontoonlew

People are going to be disappointed if they think it’s 500k

Straight relegation for negging me out. Sorry, I don’t make the rules!

Quoted from LondonMariner43

Personally I'm not a fan of the loan back. Yes he's a good player but we want togetherness in the squad and having a key member of the squad who isn't really fussed what league we play in next season isn't helpful.

I half get this comment.

But Mcatee is the kind of player that screams passion, and you wont ever get anything else from him in a Grimsby shirt.
Us and Hurst in particular, have probably kick started his career

People are confused as to why Luton would buy McAtee and then instantly loan him back out.

Didn't Huddersfield do the same with Kyle Hudlin, albeit to AFC Wimbledon and not back to Solihull.

If this deal is true and the figures are close to that publicised I think both parties should be happy with the outcome, and good luck to him I say.

https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/sport/football/luton-town/luton-deal-promoted-striker-cardiff-free-agent-3788776?page=2
Its now a rumour on the Luton Today website on this story (page 02)

Quoted from pontoonlew

People are going to be disappointed if they think it’s 500k

If we get a 'loan back' surely anything over £200k is good business? Essentially you've got a player who would have gone for a tribunal fee in the summer regardless therefore you've made profit for somebody who would have gone for next to naff all?

Quoted from Youngy

If we get a 'loan back' surely anything over £200k is good business? Essentially you've got a player who would have gone for a tribunal fee in the summer regardless therefore you've made profit for somebody who would have gone for next to naff all?

If he has to go, this is probably the least painful way. Also, remember when Bogle pushed for a transfer he threw his toys out and his form plummeted. To me, this arrangement is best for everyone.

If I do have a concern, it’s that fans will be less forgiving of a bad game and get on his back.

Quoted from pontoonlew

People are going to be disappointed if they think it’s 500k

Well he shouldn't be sold then because any less than that is taking the urine.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Well he shouldn't be sold then because any less than that is taking the urine.

Even if we get him on loan for the whole season so haven't lost anything anyway? That seems an odd way of looking at it.

If we do sell do the Scunts have a sell on clause? Hate to think they could profit.

It’s less than a £500k fee and a loan back until January looks likely, not for the full season.

either way best of luck to him, not given us anything less than 100%

Quoted from 140381

If he has to go, this is probably the least painful way. Also, remember when Bogle pushed for a transfer he threw his toys out and his form plummeted. To me, this arrangement is best for everyone.

Bogle finished his time with us having scored 3 in 5 and 10 in 12. I’d be very happy if anyone in a Town shirt this season was delivering those ratios.

Quoted from Grantham_Mariner

If we do sell do the Scunts have a sell on clause? Hate to think they could profit.

They surely will.

Hmm

Wonder if we accepted a lower fee in return for a loan back - the scunts can't claim any of that,so they get a lower amount whereas we still get him for as long as we would have if he stayed anyway.

Might have made financial sense to do it that way?

Quoted from Surrey97

It’s less than a £500k fee and a loan back until January looks likely, not for the full season.

Let’s play the game then.

£250k, higher or lower?

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Looking like it's all but done anyway.

But his value is decreasing with every day that passes.  It doesn't matter how well he performs this season, once the window closes in a months time that's pretty much it.  We've got sod all to bargain with.  You'll only get desperate sides willing to part crazy money for him in January and even then, I can't imagine anyone would look to sign him (from Championship level) as a ready made product to save their season.

£500k, if that's the figure, plus a loan return is incredible business for us.  Like it or not he's leaving us one way or another in the next 12 months.  If he wanted to sign a new deal he would have done so by now and I can't blame the lad one jot for not doing so.  He's looking after himself, as we all would do so.

He's not the ready made product and even at this level he's got flaws.  At the Championship level he'll be considerably off the pace so he'll be signed as a development - hence why we'll be able to get him back on loan.

How much we can reinvest/pay Fenty off with is largely irrelevant for this one for me.  It's about accepting the fact that we either sell now for a fee, or lose him for nothing in the summer.

If a fee and a loan deal is dangled, we should be biting hands off.

Quoted from Surrey97

It’s less than a £500k fee and a loan back until January looks likely, not for the full season.

I'm happy with that.

Depending on our position come November/December, we can decide if to wait until the summer to replace him, or if in with a shout of play-offs, get it sorted in January

I trust Hurst to make excellent use of any new funding that becomes available.

Quoted from ska face

Let’s play the game then.

£250k, higher or lower?

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It’s around that plus add ons

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

I trust Hurst to make excellent use of any new funding that becomes available.

I do in any other position than a striker

Quoted from pontoonlew

I do in any other position than a striker

Yeah because he's never signed any good strikers

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Yeah because he's never signed any good strikers

Of course he has, but it’s a position we struggle with far far more than others and we’ve signed more bad than good

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Yeah because he's never signed any good strikers

Identifying good targets and landing them are two different things. I trust him to go for the right players - Hearn, Amond, Bogle, McAtee none of them proven all with risk, all came off. But how many has he enquired about and been knocked back - someone else pays more / don’t want to come to Grimsby etc. We need one now and another before Jan if the rumour above is on the mark.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Of course he has, but it’s a position we struggle with far far more than others and we’ve signed more bad than good

Depends how you measure it, but I seem to remember he signed Amond, Bogle, McAtee, Taylor and John-Lewis, plus a couple of loan strikers last season who contributed to promotion in Mani and Abrahams. That seems like a pretty good track record to me.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Of course he has, but it’s a position we struggle with far far more than others and we’ve signed more bad than good

I think the bad ‘vibe’ from when pol pot was here looking after the well being of the club may have had a lot to do with who did and didn’t come.

But, yes, we’ve had our fair share of dross up front!

Quoted from Surrey97

It’s less than a £500k fee and a loan back until January looks likely, not for the full season.

Certainly inclined to believe you, as you’ve got a lot right so far. I think £300k and a loan back until January so Hurst can get a suitable replacement sorted is decent business.
Regardless of whether we’re paid in instalments, hopefully we can get somebody in for around £100k. I think this transfer would also help us try out a new formula, less reliant on Mcatee and Taylor. Somebody in the Dallas mould would be a great signing

It'll be a tad easier to bring in a striker or two with a wad of cash to spend.

PH was operating under a different regime for his first stint here and still managed to unearth some gems.

Been a bit tougher lately as there doesn't seem to be that many around without chucking stupid money at it.

Quoted from ginnywings

It'll be a tad easier to bring in a striker or two with a wad of cash to spend.

PH was operating under a different regime for his first stint here and still managed to unearth some gems.

Been a bit tougher lately as there doesn't seem to be that many around without chucking stupid money at it.

The reality is most clubs at this level don’t have the luxury of throwing decent money at transfer fees. In that respect it allows us to go after players that other clubs simply aren’t able to compete for.

mate made a good point that it's best it's sorted now, early in Aug. leaves us plenty of time to get in, and bed in, new signings, rather than a last minute panic on deadline day

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Pretty irrelevant, isn’t it? Jason and Andrew agreed to pay him the money and budgeted accordingly. We’re already a million in credit from promotion prize money etc, it just speeds up the process, hopefully.

That’s my point, why speculate on what it might mean in terms of the timing of when Fenty gets his money when a) we don’t know the details of the agreement with him anyway and b) the payment of that money is simply a timing thing that won’t impact on plans for this season

We’ve got the ££ from ST sales , the ££ from JM sale ,, club on the up … maybe we’re a team a PL team would be happy to loan a top class young striker to for the season seeing as we are in more of a position to contribute more to their wages ?

Gutted if this is true

The Bogle signing has always intrigued me
GTFC was not exactly in a great position to sign any sort of up and coming goal scorer - nowhere near the club we are now
Yet PH got him and he proved a great coup - there must have been bigger and wealthier clubs sniffing around as well

So have things changed so much that we can't seem to snap up a goal scoring Nat League South/North striker now?

Conspiracy theory - did Bignot give us Bogle in return for first dibs at GTFC boss if PH left?

Doubt it - but it has always seemed odd we got a striker of that goal scoring pedigree when we were a bang average NL team

Quoted from devs

The Bogle signing has always intrigued me
GTFC was not exactly in a great position to sign any sort of up and coming goal scorer - nowhere near the club we are now
Yet PH got him and he proved a great coup - there must have been bigger and wealthier clubs sniffing around as well

So have things changed so much that we can't seem to snap up a goal scoring Nat League South/North striker now?

Conspiracy theory - did Bignot give us Bogle in return for first dibs at GTFC boss if PH left?

Doubt it - but it has always seemed odd we got a striker of that goal scoring pedigree when we were a bang average NL team

I think the 50 grand we paid to Solihull may have swayed it. That was a big deal back then at that level.

To be philosophical.......it's just the way of the footballing world. One door closes, another opens. They come and they go...'twas always so....

If hdd we goes he leaves with a big thanks from me for everything he did last season 👍👍

Quoted from TheultimateMariner

Certainly inclined to believe you, as you’ve got a lot right so far. I think £300k and a loan back until January so Hurst can get a suitable replacement sorted is decent business.
Regardless of whether we’re paid in instalments, hopefully we can get somebody in for around £100k. I think this transfer would also help us try out a new formula, less reliant on Mcatee and Taylor. Somebody in the Dallas mould would be a great signing

would be good yes. Bring him in with McAtee still with us on loan would be even better.

Problem is, and Hurst and other managers have said it this pre season, their seems to be a lack of strikers available at the moment for whatever reason, may even be that a fee HAS to be involved to prize away the striker we are craving for and if the sale of McAtee allows that then we could sign someone like Dallas ahead of other league 2 clubs working on a lesser budget.
Ideal situation sell Mcatee, loan back till end of season, and use a portion of his transfer fee to sign the striker we need and that will eventually replace him.

Quoted from ginnywings

I think the 50 grand we paid to Solihull may have swayed it. That was a big deal back then at that level.

Yep - but I am surprised no other clubs offered more?

Presumably, if/when he signs for Luton he will be on a bigger wage. If he is loaned back to us will we be expected to pay his enhanced wage, or just part of it?

Quoted from DB

Presumably, if/when he signs for Luton he will be on a bigger wage. If he is loaned back to us will we be expected to pay his enhanced wage, or just part of it?

Any loan deal, normally the parent club will pay a large percentage of the players wage, dependant on the agreement between the 2 parties.
If you recall that's why Alex Hunt returned to SWFC, they tried to get us to pay his full salary and they were told in no uncertain circumstances..."do one son"..

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Any loan deal, normally the parent club will pay a large percentage of the players wage, dependant on the agreement between the 2 parties.
If you recall that's why Alex Hunt returned to SWFC, they tried to get us to pay his full salary and they were told in no uncertain circumstances..."do one son"..

Let's hope this will the case for McAtee.

The reason for lack of strikers is simple . 442 is no longer an acceptable formation at any level of the game . I might be exaggerating but there's something in it

Quoted from It Bites

The reason for lack of strikers is simple . 442 is no longer an acceptable formation at any level of the game . I might be exaggerating but there's something in it

It's true tbh, that's gone extinct with the dinosaurs, most teams at the highest level don't even use strikers anymore, you need players who can do it all.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

An experienced winger? With a couple of promotions from L2 on his CV?

Re: this from a couple of weeks ago. The player in question wasn’t in his teams 18 man squad at the weekend and is apparently fit and healthy (although I haven’t checked). His club finally made a couple of signings last week after a quiet summer so the player might become available when they get more business done themselves.

I was told the player turned us down last summer to join his current club. I have no idea if there’s still any interest now as Hurst brought in Kiernan until January and we had a few wingers already before he came in. I would say he’s probably a better player than any we have at the moment and would be an upgrade.

Quoted from DB

Let's hope this will the case for McAtee.

I'm guessing that would all be agreed in the terms of the sale.

Quoted from DB

Let's hope this will the case for McAtee.

Low % of wages may be why the fee is nearer £250k than £500k. Also reduces the sell-on clause payment - that would be a shame wouldn't it...

"Middlesboro boss Chris Wilder is ready to sanction a loan move for striker Josh Coburn. He is ready to let the 19-year-old go out on loan and play first-team football in order to further his development.

Coburn has played 26 times for the first-team and scored six goals since breaking into the first-team."

As good a prospect as he is, I think he will be snapped up by a team in the Championship or League 1

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

"Middlesboro boss Chris Wilder is ready to sanction a loan move for striker Josh Coburn. He is ready to let the 19-year-old go out on loan and play first-team football in order to further his development.

Coburn has played 26 times for the first-team and scored six goals since breaking into the first-team."

As good a prospect as he is, I think he will be snapped up by a team in the Championship or League 1

I think your final sentence is correct, which is a shame as he’d be absolutely perfect. 6ft 3” with an excellent minutes per goal ratio in the Championship.

Lots of interest in him apparently, would think he’ll end up at a top League One club.

Quoted from pontoonlew

I do in any other position than a striker

Yeah I will actually do my nut if we sell McAtee and Hurst continues to plead poverty. I think he’s afraid of getting burned. Got to take a punt sooner rather than later.

Quoted from ska face

Yeah I will actually do my nut if we sell McAtee and Hurst continues to plead poverty. I think he’s afraid of getting burned. Got to take a punt sooner rather than later.

I don't recall Hurst pleading poverty - simply that some clubs in the NL last season were spending money in crazy ways. Chesterfield blew all their money on one striker who got injured and they missed out on promotion. We built a squad, continued to improve it through the season and got promoted!

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Re: this from a couple of weeks ago. The player in question wasn’t in his teams 18 man squad at the weekend and is apparently fit and healthy (although I haven’t checked). His club finally made a couple of signings last week after a quiet summer so the player might become available when they get more business done themselves.

I was told the player turned us down last summer to join his current club. I have no idea if there’s still any interest now as Hurst brought in Kiernan until January and we had a few wingers already before he came in. I would say he’s probably a better player than any we have at the moment and would be an upgrade.

Any names or?

Quoted from PoutonStepover

I would go out on a limb here and say John McAtee is the most technically gifted player I have ever seen in a Town shirt in the 24 years I have supported this club.

His reading of the game is years above his age, the timing of his runs, his link up play with Holohan and Taylor is a joy to watch.

I think he is virtually irreplaceable if we lost him at this stage of the season, given the obvious lack of quality forwards available.

JOHN OSTER

Quoted from Mendonca1995

JOHN OSTER

I’d go a lot more recent. In terms of technical ability, Josh Benson was outstanding, initially coached by Arsenal and you could tell.

Quoted from LondonMariner43

Depends how you measure it, but I seem to remember he signed Amond, Bogle, McAtee, Taylor and John-Lewis, plus a couple of loan strikers last season who contributed to promotion in Mani and Abrahams. That seems like a pretty good track record to me.

In the times those players have played for us we’ve had players like Pat Hoban, Ben Tomlinson, Payne and many more who’ve been absolutely shite.

I’m not saying Hurst can’t find good strikers, I’m saying his hit rate is much weaker than other areas. Since he came back we’ve struggled in 4 windows to secure adequate talent in that area.

Quoted from Poojah

I think your final sentence is correct, which is a shame as he’d be absolutely perfect. 6ft 3” with an excellent minutes per goal ratio in the Championship.

Lots of interest in him apparently, would think he’ll end up at a top League One club.

I was at the Riverside on Saturday and saw him play. He was sub and did ok. He’ll go L1 if they let him out but they are short of strikers and the ones they have are not great.

Now told McAtee is coming back on a season long loan instead of a loan till January. Sorry for the wrong info earlier.

Quoted from Surrey97

Now told McAtee is coming back on a season long loan instead of a loan till January. Sorry for the wrong info earlier.

A season-long loan and £250K + sell-on would be a pretty good deal. I'm surprised that Luton would do that to be honest, but as you have a good track record, I'll assume there's some truth in it. Thinking about it, Luton are run very well nowadays and they'll see it as a good long-term investment, which it absolutely is if they (and us) manage him correctly.

Quoted from Surrey97

Now told McAtee is coming back on a season long loan instead of a loan till January. Sorry for the wrong info earlier.

That's great news, under the circumstances. Short of McAtee signing a new contract which was probably always unlikely (no agent worth his salt would have been letting him do that), the notion of McAtee being sold for a sizeable fee and being loaned back for the season is probably the best scenario we could have hoped for this transfer window. With anything like a decent season under his belt, it's highly unlikely he'd have been a Town player come the start of next season anyway.

Any idea if Town will receive any payment up front, or will payments be deferred until his loan ends and he becomes a Luton player proper?

Quoted from Surrey97

Now told McAtee is coming back on a season long loan instead of a loan till January. Sorry for the wrong info earlier.

This is good business for all parties. Luton get there first for a talent who will undoubtedly be championship quality in a couple of years, McAtee gets a bump in salary and his move up the leagues, we get a decent chunk of money, the player back on loan and time to plan when we'd 100% have lost him for nothing in the summer. Not sure how anyone could have any complaints.

Quoted from Poojah

That's great news, under the circumstances. Short of McAtee signing a new contract which was probably always unlikely (no agent worth his salt would have been letting him do that), the notion of McAtee being sold for a sizeable fee and being loaned back for the season is probably the best scenario we could have hoped for this transfer window. With anything like a decent season under his belt, it's highly unlikely he'd have been a Town player come the start of next season anyway.

Any idea if Town will receive any payment up front, or will payments be deferred until his loan ends and he becomes a Luton player proper?

Not 100% sure but believe there will be a sum up front, with a portion of the fee also paid in instalments.

Quoted from MarinerDevil

A season-long loan and £250K + sell-on would be a pretty good deal. I'm surprised that Luton would do that to be honest, but as you have a good track record, I'll assume there's some truth in it. Thinking about it, Luton are run very well nowadays and they'll see it as a good long-term investment, which it absolutely is if they (and us) manage him correctly.

I'm not surprised. They are getting in early to secure a talent and letting him carry on his development here. Hurst has done a pretty good job of it so far.

We may even have pushed for it as part of the deal and accepted a slightly reduced fee as we don't now need someone to replace him.

Quoted from Surrey97

Not 100% sure but believe there will be a sum up front, with a portion of the fee also paid in instalments.

Thanks. It does feel like the closest thing to a ‘have your cake and eat it’ scenario given the unlikely chance of retaining him past this season anyway.

I'm wondering if there is a clause in the agreement for us to send him for his shoulder operation, I wouldn't expect Luton to sign him and then have him out for 10 weeks, or however long it takes.

Quoted from 123614

I'm wondering if there is a clause in the agreement for us to send him for his shoulder operation, I wouldn't expect Luton to sign him and then have him out for 10 weeks, or however long it takes.

I was thinking that. Not sure how happy they'd be with us letting a player keep playing through that kind of injury. But if we've got some cash to replace him then at least we can do that.

Ok Surrey is going for a big claim here. If he's correct does this make him officially champion ?

Quoted from lukeo

Ok Surrey is going for a big claim here. If he's correct does this make him officially champion ?

Table runs until the end of the window, still plenty of time. Grimsby2012 doing his work in the Andrew Dallas thread and GollyGTFC could be on for some big points if he starts naming names.

We sell for 250k , he joins us on loan and bangs goals in for fun in league 2. I think we might regret that . We don’t need the money , keep him

It won’t be about the money. It’ll be about doing right by John and what he wants. If there’s an offer of a championship contract - he’s likely to want to consider that. I’m sure we won’t stand in his way. It’s just about agreeing a fair valuation of him. 500K is the baseline for me.

Quoted from MNH1972

We sell for 250k , he joins us on loan and bangs goals in for fun in league 2. I think we might regret that . We don’t need the money , keep him

Think you need to revisit this and have a think about it.

Quoted from MNH1972

We sell for 250k , he joins us on loan and bangs goals in for fun in league 2. I think we might regret that . We don’t need the money , keep him

The alternative is we keep him and bags goals in for fun till the end of the season. He then leaves on a free and we are £500k - £250K out of pocket. I much prefer to sell him for loads of cash and loan him back till the end of the season, that way we get the best of both worlds

Quoted from MNH1972

We sell for 250k , he joins us on loan and bangs goals in for fun in league 2. I think we might regret that . We don’t need the money , keep him

This makes no sense at all.

The culture of the club is to look after the wellbeing of its players. It is ludicrous to suggest that management now obstructs the legitimate desire of a player (an employee) to better himself by moving to a club higher up the pyramid who will pay him a much higher wage.

Quoted from WelwynGardener

The culture of the club is to look after the wellbeing of its players. It is ludicrous to suggest that management now obstructs the legitimate desire of a player (an employee) to better himself by moving to a club higher up the pyramid who will pay him a much higher wage.

Yes its absolutely ludicrous to try and keep the player that the team is built around, we should let him go tomorrow. Hurst said there's a ton of strikers out there we can sign.

It is ludicrous to build a team around one player, I agree.

Quoted from DB

The alternative is we keep him and bags goals in for fun till the end of the season. He then leaves on a free and we are £500k - £250K out of pocket. I much prefer to sell him for loads of cash and loan him back till the end of the season, that way we get the best of both worlds

He is under 24 (just) when his contract ends, so if we offer him the same or better deal and he wants to leave, it will go to a tribunal, unless we can come to some agreement with a buying club to avoid this.

He won't go for free.

Quoted from ginnywings

He is under 24 (just) when his contract ends, so if we offer him the same or better deal and he wants to leave, it will go to a tribunal, unless we can come to some agreement with a buying club to avoid this.

He won't go for free.

But can we gamble and offer him the same deal if someone offers him say £8000 a week? What happens if he turns around and decides to stay? *

* I’m not being awkward… just genuinely curious as to what would happen!

Quoted from thefish

But can we gamble and offer him the same deal if someone offers him say £8000 a week? What happens if he turns around and decides to stay? *

* I’m not being awkward… just genuinely curious as to what would happen!

Has to match his existing deal, not any prospective one at a new club. You’d be lucky to get 50% of his current value at a tribunal however, so it’s by no means a risk-free approach.

Quoted from thefish

But can we gamble and offer him the same deal if someone offers him say £8000 a week? What happens if he turns around and decides to stay? *

* I’m not being awkward… just genuinely curious as to what would happen!

We only have to offer him the same or better deal he is already on with us.

Quoted from Cricklewoodmariner

Yes its absolutely ludicrous to try and keep the player that the team is built around, we should let him go tomorrow. Hurst said there's a ton of strikers out there we can sign.

Are you being deliberately unrealistic?
If a championship club wants to sign him and he (understandably) wants to take that chance, how would it be morally or professionally right to refuse his freedom to take that opportunity? We’ll be appropriately paid I’m sure. Much as I’m gutted, it’s how things go and he deserves it. He’ll always be loved by us all. It wouldn’t be right for us to stop him progressing and it wouldn’t be right either for us to get nothing for him at the end of the season. I expect that both club and player want to do right by each other.

Don’t we want to be portraying ourselves as this new club that’s great to be at. (Insert name) player comes in where he knows that if he has a good season or two, will get the opportunity to ply his trade at a higher level with all the best wishes from the club.

Would make recruitment slightly easier I would’ve thought

Quoted from Poojah

Has to match his existing deal, not any prospective one at a new club. You’d be lucky to get 50% of his current value at a tribunal however, so it’s by no means a risk-free approach.

And what is his value now yesterday £500k today £250k i 50% less

Quoted from HerveJosse

And what is his value now yesterday £500k today £250k i 50% less

Errr….what?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Re: this from a couple of weeks ago. The player in question wasn’t in his teams 18 man squad at the weekend and is apparently fit and healthy (although I haven’t checked). His club finally made a couple of signings last week after a quiet summer so the player might become available when they get more business done themselves.

I was told the player turned us down last summer to join his current club. I have no idea if there’s still any interest now as Hurst brought in Kiernan until January and we had a few wingers already before he came in. I would say he’s probably a better player than any we have at the moment and would be an upgrade.

Naming them or just gunna leave this hanging…

Quoted from Poojah

Has to match his existing deal, not any prospective one at a new club. You’d be lucky to get 50% of his current value at a tribunal however, so it’s by no means a risk-free approach.

Ah, fair enough. Well, I’m sure we can do that.

Thanks for clearing that up!

Quoted from Mikey_345

Naming them or just gunna leave this hanging…

Agree. Intrigued to know at least which division

Urines me off , every time we get a good player we sell them . Hurst wont spend proper money on a striker so we stay down here in the pits of the EFL .and struggle just being also rans . We are struggling to put a decent team out as it is at the moment and reported to be selling our best asset talk about shooting yourself in the foot . Its ok getting the ground and back room things out but we need something decent on the pitch

Rather get a fee now & keep him on loan than lose him for compensation nxt yr , best player i'v seen in grimsby shirt for many a year , works his socks off as well so i don't begrudge him his move he deserves it

If the Mcatee rumour is true it would be interesting if we went up and Luton came down (unlikely as it is ) 😂

Quoted from denni266

Urines me off , every time we get a good player we sell them . Hurst wont spend proper money on a striker so we stay down here in the pits of the EFL .and struggle just being also rans . We are struggling to put a decent team out as it is at the moment and reported to be selling our best asset talk about shooting yourself in the foot . Its ok getting the ground and back room things out but we need something decent on the pitch

We didn’t sell Hearn when we had the chance, then he did his cruciate and we eventually paid him up. We didn’t sell Reddy when we had the chance, then he got injured and never scored another professional goal after 05/06.

Quoted from denni266

Urines me off , every time we get a good player we sell them . Hurst wont spend proper money on a striker so we stay down here in the pits of the EFL .and struggle just being also rans . We are struggling to put a decent team out as it is at the moment and reported to be selling our best asset talk about shooting yourself in the foot . Its ok getting the ground and back room things out but we need something decent on the pitch

You don’t understand player ambition and contracts obviously 🙄

If a player is good enough to play higher up the pyramid it would be unfair of the club to stop him.

Quoted from grimsby pete

If a player is good enough to play higher up the pyramid it would be unfair of the club to stop him.

And getting a fee is far more preferential than losing them for free next summer.

Luton is a dump. He should sign a new contract seeing as we have resurrected his career.

Another twist in this, i’ve just been told that Mcatee failed his medical at Luton

Of course they can still sign him but…

Given that he popped his shoulder back in place on the side of the pitch on Saturday… that’s not a shock 🤣

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Given that he popped his shoulder back in place on the side of the pitch on Saturday… that’s not a shock 🤣

Fair point😂

Quoted from Hagrid

Another twist in this, i’ve just been told that Mcatee failed his medical at Luton

Of course they can still sign him but…

When the rumour leaked yesterday the first thing I thought was that unless they know about his shoulder, that could cause a problem.

Quoted from denni266

Urines me off , every time we get a good player we sell them . Hurst wont spend proper money on a striker so we stay down here in the pits of the EFL .and struggle just being also rans . We are struggling to put a decent team out as it is at the moment and reported to be selling our best asset talk about shooting yourself in the foot . Its ok getting the ground and back room things out but we need something decent on the pitch

Is this the same Hurst that got us promoted back into L2 at the first attempt less than two months ago? Yeah, what a bastard.

Haven't picked up a single point since then though!

Well well - after the last couple of months of euphoria we now have a frenzy on this thread of posters advocating selling our best asset ASAP - following a post from someone in Luton.
This frankly leaves me quite disapointed.
Our owners are trying to build something for the the future & clubs who aspire do not sell their best players.
I don't believe that we are strapped for cash these days - so let us see if John A makes his mark in this league & if so come January offer him an extended & improved contract.
If he doesn't want to get on board - fair enough but then we are in the drivers seat & await the moneybags offers. Simples.
UTM.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Haven't picked up a single point since then though!

Hurst out!

McAtee is the best player we have had in a number of years. Class player on the ball with real quality, a desire to win and clearly loves the club and playing for us. However he is clearly better than this level and as much as it would be a loss to us we cannot begrudge him moving to a higher level with a bigger wage. A mate of mine was part of Derby’s coaching and recruiting team last year and he said he’s definitely Championship quality. If he goes then thanks for everything and good luck.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Well well - after the last couple of months of euphoria we now have a frenzy on this thread of posters advocating selling our best asset ASAP - following a post from someone in Luton.
This frankly leaves me quite disapointed.
Our owners are trying to build something for the the future & clubs who aspire do not sell their best players.
I don't believe that we are strapped for cash these days - so let us see if John A makes his mark in this league & if so come January offer him an extended & improved contract.
If he doesn't want to get on board - fair enough but then we are in the drivers seat & await the moneybags offers. Simples.
UTM.

That just simply isn't true unless you're basically Real Madrid or City these days. Any team below the top four who has a particularly good player will have to sell them at some stage. It's how you use them whilst you've got them and then reinvest that money which is key to being successful long term.

Quoted from Hagrid

Another twist in this, i’ve just been told that Mcatee failed his medical at Luton

Of course they can still sign him but…

it was hardly a secret that he has a shoulder problem. i did wonder if part of the loan back would eb that he got his shoulder fixed during the loan period
got to hope for Mcatee that it can get sorted , the chance to play in the Championship and at least triple his wages is a life changer

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Well well - after the last couple of months of euphoria we now have a frenzy on this thread of posters advocating selling our best asset ASAP - following a post from someone in Luton.
This frankly leaves me quite disapointed.
Our owners are trying to build something for the the future & clubs who aspire do not sell their best players.
I don't believe that we are strapped for cash these days - so let us see if John A makes his mark in this league & if so come January offer him an extended & improved contract.
If he doesn't want to get on board - fair enough but then we are in the drivers seat & await the moneybags offers. Simples.
UTM.

With 6 months left on his contract, It won't be us that are in the driving seat.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Well well - after the last couple of months of euphoria we now have a frenzy on this thread of posters advocating selling our best asset ASAP - following a post from someone in Luton.
This frankly leaves me quite disapointed.
Our owners are trying to build something for the the future & clubs who aspire do not sell their best players.
I don't believe that we are strapped for cash these days - so let us see if John A makes his mark in this league & if so come January offer him an extended & improved contract.
If he doesn't want to get on board - fair enough but then we are in the drivers seat & await the moneybags offers. Simples.
UTM.

We are, undoubtedly, not in the driver’s seat.

Our best attacking player is, one, struggling with a long term injury, two, out of contract at the end of the season and, three, most worryingly, we seem to have become very or over reliant on him.

Any one of those three isn’t great news. All three is a bit of a mess.

I wonder if we put a new/improved contract to him? I said at the time, we should offer him more money and another year/2 to protect our investment and urge him to sign on the grounds we wouldn’t stand in his way if an acceptable offer came in for him and he wanted to go.

Bit of a shame that it’s only Luton who are in for him. He deserves a bigger and better club than that at Chanp level.

Quoted from chaos33

I wonder if we put a new/improved contract to him? I said at the time, we should offer him more money and another year/2 to protect our investment and urge him to sign on the grounds we wouldn’t stand in his way if an acceptable offer came in for him and he wanted to go.

Bit of a shame that it’s only Luton who are in for him. He deserves a bigger and better club than that at Chanp level.

There were only five teams finished above them last season.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Well well - after the last couple of months of euphoria we now have a frenzy on this thread of posters advocating selling our best asset ASAP
No - the vast majority of posters acknowledge the reality of the situation and that the deal quoted was as good as we were likely to get- following a post from someone in Luton.
No - it came from a tweet by a journalist who gets more things right than wrong
This frankly leaves me quite disapointed.
Our owners are trying to build something for the the future & clubs who aspire do not sell their best players.
Even clubs as big as Spurs have to sell their best players if Man City, barca or Real come calling
I don't believe that we are strapped for cash these days - so let us see if John A makes his mark in this league & if so come January offer him an extended & improved contract.
This is just ridiculous - he will treble or quadruple his wages at Luton. There's no way we could afford that, and i suspect neither we would want to as it would totally destroy the wage structure at the club. Furthermore his agent would never allow that to happen, not when there will be clubs from much higher up the pyramid offering far better prospects and money. We would then have to go to tribunal and everyone knows that we will get shafted there
If he doesn't want to get on board - fair enough but then we are in the drivers seat & await the moneybags offers. Simples.
Absolute nonsense - as someone said his value diminishes every day after 31st August, because he won't sign a new contract coz he knows,all being well, he will be playing at a much higher level next season. and as i said it will go tribunal and we will get naff all
UTM.

hardley know where to start with this post - there is just so much wrog

Quoted from Hagrid

Another twist in this, i’ve just been told that Mcatee failed his medical at Luton

Of course they can still sign him but…

That would be a disaster all round- better we get paid , he gets a decent move. seems like a win-win to me. We would lose him anyway and so much better to sell now.

Cheeky bid to take Mendes Gomez on loan from them as part of the deal?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Cheeky bid to take Mendes Gomez on loan from them as part of the deal?

Not the daftest idea.

Quoted from Hagrid

Another twist in this, i’ve just been told that Mcatee failed his medical at Luton

Of course they can still sign him but…

I wonder what happens next. Will they still take him on a reduced fee, wait for his health to improve or back off.

Quoted from Hagrid

Another twist in this, i’ve just been told that Mcatee failed his medical at Luton

Of course they can still sign him but…

Come on Surrey97 tell us what you know. Is this on or off?

The shoulder injury is why I've thought this was bunkum from the beginning. Why would they pay good money now, in the knowledge that they had to take responsibility for sorting his injury. Let us do it, then get him for free next May
The only reason would be if 3 or 4 clubs were trying to get him and they were prepared to take a punt early.

One that wouldn't surprise me is if Peterborough came swooping in for McAtee now they have just sold Szmodics to Blackburn. A like for like replacement in McAtee and suits Peterboroughs mould of signing players from the league below.

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

Quoted from denni266

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

What the intercourse are you talking about?

Quoted from denni266

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

Yeah let's not play our best player in some forlorn display of petulance that somebody wants to further their career.

Quoted from denni266

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

Because, of course, his team mates have no concept of wanting to play at a higher level and earn more money. What delusional crap is this?

Quoted from denni266

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

A move to The Championship from League 2? Of course he’d want to leave, and why would anyone be surprised or even disappointed with that? If he gets his chance, he has to take it, even if it is bad for us.

Honestly, how much would they be paying him? Surely 10K per week, minimum? You can’t turn that down.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

One that wouldn't surprise me is if Peterborough came swooping in for McAtee now they have just sold Szmodics to Blackburn. A like for like replacement in McAtee and suits Peterboroughs mould of signing players from the league below.

You mean Peterborough's mould of signing Grimsby Town's best players? ;) ;)

Quoted from denni266

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

this is one of the stupidest posts i've seen on this site. wtf are you talking about

Quoted from denni266

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

I mean, you always post hog wash but that’s some dumb, ill informed and unbalanced view you’ve shared.

Quoted from Hagrid

this is one of the stupidest posts i've seen on this site. wtf are you talking about

That's some pool to choose from in fairness

Quoted from denni266

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

Time to wake up, Town play in the real world not dreamland.

I'm not au fait with these sort of things, but why wasn't his shoulder dealt with after the play off final?

Surely a fit McAtee would have brought in more money.

I’ve heard elsewhere that the “failing medical” rumour is a wind up…

The sooner this window closes the better ffs.

Quoted from cannylad65

I'm not au fait with these sort of things, but why wasn't his shoulder dealt with after the play off final?

Surely a fit McAtee would have brought in more money.

Originally, I believe it was said that, if he needed the op that he would have been out well into the new season. Then, when PH was asked during pre season, it had ‘settled down’ and he could ‘manage it’.

Apologies if I’m not 💯 on this but it’s how I remember it.

Quoted from denni266

If this is true and he wanted to go and failed he should not play for us again untill some loyalty has been shown . his team mates wont be happy that he wanted to go either.. And what about the fans that have paid out good money for season tickets expecting to see him play in a decent team

Even 18 months back and more that wouldn’t have happened!

Quoted from 140381

I’ve heard elsewhere that the “failing medical” rumour is a wind up…

The sooner this window closes the better ffs.

Crucial time for Hagrid here... if it proves he's been taken in by a wind up that's really going to affect the table.. ;D

In other news Cesc Fabregas signs for Serie B side Como FC. Lake Como or the Humber estuary? It must have been about money.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Crucial time for Hagrid here... if it proves he's been taken in by a wind up that's really going to affect the table.. ;D

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/D0kJfdFW/678-A6093-79-E8-49-F1-BD10-59-B1-B709048-A.jpg[/img]

Reassuring, in a sense. I’d be devvo’d if this fell through after looking like the deal of century yesterday tea time.

Quoted from 140381

I’ve heard elsewhere that the “failing medical” rumour is a wind up…

The sooner this window closes the better ffs.

Yep, it appears the "source" regarding the failed medical was talking boll@x and the person he told fell hook, line and sinker for it

Re Macatee leaving, if he goes it should be with our blessing, no if, buts or maybes, the man who were told was lazy absolutely pulled trees up last season and gave us, the fans, some fantastic moments of sheer joy.
Who can blame a person, especially footballers with incredibly short playing careers, for wanting to progress their career as far as they can?.
But, as it stands, it is only a rumour with no real foundation, so rather than get all hyped up speculating, let's just sit back and see what pans out.

Whatever the truth of he’s failed a medical or not one of the main reasons for having a medical is to meet the requirements of insurers so if he has failed a medical the option of Luton taking no him anyway for a reduced fee as suggested by some is unlikely.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Crucial time for Hagrid here... if it proves he's been taken in by a wind up that's really going to affect the table.. ;D

:( :(

In relation to the shoulder injury/operation...

a cynic could wonder if Hurst always knew this window would be time when McAtee left, therefore decided it wasn't in our interest to put him forward for the op just yet knowing it would put off buyers until January (less of a fee) and/or give us that extra bargaining offer of 'well, loan him back for the season and we'll make sure he gets the operation sorted before he joins up with you...

well this is a disaster ;D apologies all! was only passing on what i was told- not by the chap above^ but clearly the person he told

My apologies.

Whatever the situation is, I remain surprised that McAtee hasn't had the surgery on his shoulder if it is going to pop in and out like it apparently did at the weekend. I suppose there's always the possibility that he's a big fan of Lethal Weapon and wants to have a party trick to help him get out of handcuffs, but to me it would make more sense to have the surgery to get it resolved once and for all.

Quoted from Hagrid

well this is a disaster ;D apologies all! was only passing on what i was told- not by the chap above^ but clearly the person he told

My apologies.

Praise for the honesty. You are now relegation fodder however, probably a Derby scale points deduction.

Right then, with this seemingly back on again, if this deal goes ahead as described I think on balance we should be very happy with it. Players don’t stay forever, and that’s particularly true of exceptional talents in the lower leagues.

Getting a full two years out of McAtee along with a decent fee is value unlike anything we’ve had out of any other player in recent years. Bogle was only here 18 months and was only in form for a short period. Amond was here for just a year and left for nothing. Connell only a year and a modest fee.

The likes of Hearn and Reddy were technically here longer but horribly injured for long periods and it was only those injuries which enabled us to keep them here for as long as we did. Both left for nothing despite having been worth fees comfortably into six figures (in fact I think we turned down a bid of around £400k from Bristol City for Reddy).

Who was the last top attacking player we got a full two years out of and a worthwhile fee? I think this could be an unprecedentedly good piece of business and hopefully not the end of an era, but the catalyst of a new one.

Confirmed on Humberside, loaned back for the season.

Think we’ve done very well to get this deal done really. Best case scenario.

Good deal for us. Congrats to John and let's kick on from here.

It would have been bad business to just let him go. Best of both worlds here if he wouldn't sign a contract. Can't believe they've let us have him back on loan

Can’t really complain at that can we. Assuming we’ve got a decent sell on percentage, it could be the very best we’d have hoped for. Just need him to fire us back to Division 3 now.

More I think about this, the more i think it's a good bit of business. Secure a fee now but keep him as long as we would have been able to anyway if we hadn't sold him.

Relegation for Hagrid now?

Cracking business for the club if it goes to tribunal at season end we lose him for peanuts , now please just splash abit on that striker we all crave

Best case scenario for everyone. It’s a very astute piece of business. I’m also imagining how many different ways the previous regime would have bollocksed that transfer.

Now what we going to talk about....

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Now what we going to talk about....

Who we go out and sign for an undisclosed fee...

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Now what we going to talk about....

https://youtu.be/AiSJ65oKLjk

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Who we go out and sign for an undisclosed fee...

Sorry, we can't disclose that..

Hopefully no more £50 per week player payment problems that let players go without good reason.

2 year contracts are the start of better player security and stability, and then hopefully a modicum of loyalty may be returned.

Excited to see what we do next

Quoted from Surrey97

Excited to see what we do next

Oooh you big tease.

Quoted from Surrey97

Excited to see what we do next

Statement or question

Quoted from Surrey97

Excited to see what we do next

Be amusing if we sign Dallas for an undisclosed fee and loan him back to Solihull for the season.

yanno i'm not sold on Dallas, he hasnt really scored anywhere else and most of his goals came in a lump, 5 in one game and a hat trick.

Quoted from Hagrid

yanno i'm not sold on Dallas, he hasnt really scored anywhere else and most of his goals came in a lump, 5 in one game and a hat trick.

The lads just turned 23 and only really had a fair crack of it at Solihull, so bit harsh to mention not doing it anywhere else. When he's played consistently, he's scored goals.

Don't really see the argument that scoring hat-tricks and 5 goals in a game isn't a good thing to be honest....

If we're in for him, hopefully he passes his medical ;)

Quoted from Hagrid

yanno i'm not sold on Dallas, he hasnt really scored anywhere else and most of his goals came in a lump, 5 in one game and a hat trick.

Bit harsh.

The only other place he had a decent run of games was Weymouth where he got 12 in 25. I get what you're saying about the glut of goals but there's a decent period of the season where he was coming off the bench, transfermarkt has him down as playing a lot on either flank too (dunno how accurate that is to be fair).

But just going on the goals, Hurst has got history for finding someone who has a debatable goals record and turning them into very effective strikers.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Bit harsh.

The only other place he had a decent run of games was Weymouth where he got 12 in 25. I get what you're saying about the glut of goals but there's a decent period of the season where he was coming off the bench, transfermarkt has him down as playing a lot on either flank too (dunno how accurate that is to be fair).

But just going on the goals, Hurst has got history for finding someone who has a debatable goals record and turning them into very effective strikers.

fair point mate, well whoever we go for, i hope we get the business done asap

Signing of Dallas would provoke some interesting teasers from the club!

Quoted from Marinerdeano

Signing of Dallas would provoke some interesting teasers from the club!

I wonder if Debbie would do the Dallas announcement?

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I wonder if Debbie would do the Dallas announcement?

Stop it... ;D

Surely we've got to sign Admiral Muskwe on loan from Luton.

I have no info, he's massive and I like his name.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Surely we've got to sign Admiral Muskwe on loan from Luton.

I have no info, he's massive and I like his name.

Youngs would really regret losing the sponsorship if we signed him and his pies

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Surely we've got to sign Admiral Muskwe on loan from Luton.

I have no info, he's massive and I like his name.

Wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if someone comes on loan from Luton. JS said something on Sportstalk about developing a relationship with them.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Surely we've got to sign Admiral Muskwe on loan from Luton.

I have no info, he's massive and I like his name.

Wasn't he one of the good guys in one of the Star Wars films?

Mendes Gomes & Muskwe didn't make the match day squad on the weekend, so could be loaned out, as they've just signed another forward from a Canadian team!

Quoted from HerveJosse

Why on earth would Luton pay £500k and give him back for a year when he is out of contract at the end of the season?

Erm. Think I called it correctly. 😊

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Erm. Think I called it correctly. 😊

We received no way near 500k from what I understand from the interview

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Erm. Think I called it correctly. 😊

Jason confirmed we didn’t get £500k and could probably have got more elsewhere but the loan back was a big attraction so no you didn’t.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I wonder if Debbie would do the Dallas announcement?

Superb! ;D

Quoted from Surrey97

It’s less than a £500k fee and a loan back until January looks likely, not for the full season.

I see JS has confirmed this. Do you know approx how much we got?

Quoted from UTMariners

I see JS has confirmed this. Do you know approx how much we got?

JS didn't say how much but he did say that Luton have loaned him back to us for the FULL season.

Quoted from Hagrid

yanno i'm not sold on Dallas, he hasnt really scored anywhere else and most of his goals came in a lump, 5 in one game and a hat trick.

There is a hell of a player there, just look at his games. If you want somebody on the pitch that not only has great positioning sense to be in the right place to get goals and somebody who can move with pace then he's your man. We really need somebody who can convert chances into goals because that's what we are lacking, was clear at Leyton Orient we lack a good finishing touch that could have got us a couple of goals.

Quoted from lukeo

We received no way near 500k from what I understand from the interview

It's was the point re loan.....

Quoted from HerveJosse

Jason confirmed we didn’t get £500k and could probably have got more elsewhere but the loan back was a big attraction so no you didn’t.

Sorry I was £3.46 out, the point regarding the loan back was my point - scoffed at by your goodself 😉

Quoted from Bristol Mariner

Sorry I was £3.46 out, the point regarding the loan back was my point - scoffed at by your goodself 😉

£500k and a laon was my point though a it was my point you were commenting on.
Let’s call it a draw.?

Ps if the fee turns out to be £499996.54p I will concede

Quoted from HerveJosse

£500k and a laon was my point though a it was my point you were commenting on.
Let’s call it a draw.?

Ps if the fee turns out to be £499996.54p I will concede

Deal, or share a pint on Sat 🍺

So we have McAtee for the full season. No risk to us of losing him now, in Jan or at the end of his contract for nothing.

We have an x amount of transfer funding, some up front, contracted performance bonuses and a sell- on clause. We are in a position to look at good players now.

He is not going to get injured and jeopardise a large transfer fee (Hearn and Reddy).

We have a year to find a replacement.

We have established ourselves as honest negotiators in transfer deals. Achieving what is best for the club and the player. There is also the possibility of loanees coming in from Luton.

Has Fenty now been set free ?

Quoted from It Bites

Has Fenty now been set free ?

[img]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HandsomeMelodicBluebottlejellyfish-max-1mb.gif[/img]

As the song goes we aint got fenty anymore , please retire him to the history books now

Didn't Muskwe score against us playing for Leicester City 2 seasons ago when we were last in League 2. One of the two bit Cup competitions I think.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Didn't Muskwe score against us playing for Leicester City 2 seasons ago when we were last in League 2. One of the two bit Cup competitions I think.

Incredible memory!

Almost as incredible as us losing with this team: https://www.google.com/search?q=grimsby+1-3+leicester+u21&rlz=1C1GCEA_enGB922GB922&oq=grimsby+1-3+leicester+u21&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l5.5120j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=m;/g/11jx792jp0;2;/m/0125lj;ln;fp;1;;

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Didn't Muskwe score against us playing for Leicester City 2 seasons ago when we were last in League 2. One of the two bit Cup competitions I think.

He did, but I only know that because I looked him up on Soccerbase earlier. If you genuinely remember it then you are a better mariner than I.

https://youtu.be/vp7ZkjjCNUU

Better crowd than the time we played Sunderland in it.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Didn't Muskwe score against us playing for Leicester City 2 seasons ago when we were last in League 2. One of the two bit Cup competitions I think.

Muskwe keep banging on about that goal?

So McAtee has gone and come back. Excitement of that deal is over now.

Back to the rumours. Anyone got any?

Quoted from ginnywings

Back to the rumours. Anyone got any?

If I was incredibly childish there is an open goal with 'your mum' written all over it. Fortunately I'm more mature than that.

Quoted from Poojah

He did, but I only know that because I looked him up on Soccerbase earlier. If you genuinely remember it then you are a better mariner than I.

Quoted from Abdul19

Incredible memory!

I only remember the name because I had him in my Football Manager team at the time and he was banging goals in for fun, so remember watching the highlights of the Leicester game to see if he was anything like his digital namesake.........

..........and he wasn't!

No points awarded following the McAtee transfer, a Scottish journalist beat everyone to the punch which went completely under the fishy radar. Poor show really.

Last chance to name your mystery man Golly, the natives are getting restless.

The only striker i keep hearing is tom elliott ex salford millwall not sure what he doing now , we wont get dallas from solihull they will want more than we got for mcatee not sure that makes good business sense

Just been told Luton's new striker from Canada is joining?

Absolute unit going off the pictures of him. Great name.

Quoted from GyMariner

Aribim Pepple

Rumour been circulating for a couple of days but didn’t seem to be reliable source just a 2 and 2 makes 5. If true he looks good possibly to good

Aribusitamunoipirim Emmanuel Pepple, dont think the black square on the back of his shirt will be big enough.

heres the supposed source

https://twitter.com/footyinsider247/status/1555186218903666688

Followed by Stocko, JT, Big Chris and Rob Beckett tbf.

certainly looks like it could be more than a rour to be fair

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-grimsby-town-in-advanced-talks-to-sign-luton-town-starlet-aribim-pepple/

Doesn't appear to have had much playing time, but made 7 appearances in the Canadian Premier League and scored 6 goals! Don't know what quality Canadian Premier League is.

Hopefully, he can dash ahead of opposition defenders...

Quoted from 123614

Doesn't appear to have had much playing time, but made 7 appearances in the Canadian Premier League and scored 6 goals! Don't know what quality Canadian Premier League is.

Similar to the lower leagues in England I guess, a good place for young players like him with raw attributes to get noticed. Who knows at this point but could develop into a player, seems quite strong and quick.

Pete O Rourke from Sky now reporting it with Matt Dean retweeting. Looks like an absolute unit.

Former Canadian U17 international, was signed by Getafe a couple years ago and moved back to Canada early this year. Scored 7 in 7 averaging a goal every 70 minutes in the CPL which is a pretty good standard. Was looked at by Sheff United and Leicester last year. Looks like it could be an unbelievable coup for us

I have serious reservations though that the very long commute (from Canada) will be too tiring. :)

Fors : Has pace, two footed, prepared to take players on, and can put the ball in the net occasionally.

Possible Against : Not many highlights of him heading the ball (just the 1 shown)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZA599DHCgs

This looks like a really interesting signing. He could flop like a lot of loans do but there’s something about his background that excites me more than some kid from an academy who’s never played first team football

[tweet]1554430806764003328[/tweet]

The strangest goal compilation I've ever seen....

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Pete O Rourke from Sky now reporting it with Matt Dean retweeting. Looks like an absolute unit.

Former Canadian U17 international, was signed by Getafe a couple years ago and moved back to Canada early this year. Scored 7 in 7 averaging a goal every 70 minutes in the CPL which is a pretty good standard. Was looked at by Sheff United and Leicester last year. Looks like it could be an unbelievable coup for us

You read his wiki page too!😜👍

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

[tweet]1554430806764003328[/tweet]

The strangest goal compilation I've ever seen....

Like that they've made one of these to try and manage expectations rather than raise them too high 😂

hope we sign him and are hopes are not pebble dashed

Let’s hope he doesn’t get kicked around, displaced by feet.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Just been told Luton's new striker from Canada is joining?

Seen that too on season long loan

Hurst just said no incomings before weekend to Matt Dean…….and very unlikely Mcatee will be playing…..

Interesting team then!

Quoted from mariner91

Absolute unit going off the pictures of him. Great name.

It could easily be a plant species or a farm yard animal breed too.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

I have serious reservations though that the very long commute (from Canada) will be too tiring. :)

Another Martin Butler you think? ;)

Quoted from Epworth Mariner

Hurst just said no incomings before weekend to Matt Dean…….and very unlikely Mcatee will be playing…..

Interesting team then!

Knowing Hurst, that means McAtee lining up along with this guy from Luton on Saturday....

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

[tweet]1554430806764003328[/tweet]

The strangest goal compilation I've ever seen....

The standard of defending and goalkeeping looks absolutely gash.

Quoted from Epworth Mariner

Hurst just said no incomings before weekend to Matt Dean…….and very unlikely Mcatee will be playing…..

Interesting team then!

So safe to expect incomings and McAtee starting then 😂

I remember when he said no signings this week and we signed a left back an hour later..

Quoted from Tinymariner

Let’s hope he doesn’t get kicked around, displaced by feet.

very good

He is to be loaned out to us according to the local Luton rag

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/luton-town-player-set-for-transfer-exit-to-efl-club/

Quoted from mimma

He is to be loaned out to us according to the local Luton rag

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/luton-town-player-set-for-transfer-exit-to-efl-club/

that aint the luton paper

Squad looks very thin now.

Quoted from mimma

He is to be loaned out to us according to the local Luton rag

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/luton-town-player-set-for-transfer-exit-to-efl-club/

Quoting Football Insider as the source, which is where it came from on here hours ago.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Squad looks very thin now.

Particularly up front! :o

Quoted from DB

Quoting Football Insider as the source, which is where it came from on here hours ago.

Is it not yet set in stone?

Pete O’rourke is usually spot on about us tbf, I’ve heard nothing yet personally but I’d be surprised if he was reporting it with no substance

Quoted from pontoonlew

Pete O’rourke is usually spot on about us tbf, I’ve heard nothing yet personally but I’d be surprised if he was reporting it with no substance

Given the context - the McAtee deal, the availability of the player, I would have thought this could happen very quickly if we wanted it to. It's maybe even happened since the interview with PH was filmed, with Luton providing this as an option given the JMcAtee situation.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Given the context - the McAtee deal, the availability of the player, I would have thought this could happen very quickly if we wanted it to. It's maybe even happened since the interview with PH was filmed, with Luton providing this as an option given the JMcAtee situation.

Not entirely convinced that a 19 year old with zero English football experience is going to be the answer to all our shortages. That said, I’d be happy to be wrong.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Given the context - the McAtee deal, the availability of the player, I would have thought this could happen very quickly if we wanted it to. It's maybe even happened since the interview with PH was filmed, with Luton providing this as an option given the JMcAtee situation.

Well it was said we'd like to develop a relationship with Luton from that transfer. With the transfer happening as it did and the positive talk coming from it I'd imagine that both sides got along really well and it opened up talks about other things while doing the McAtee deal. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of players come here from Luton that need development coming here for experience where they can hopefully make a contribution.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Not entirely convinced that a 19 year old with zero English football experience is going to be the answer to all our shortages. That said, I’d be happy to be wrong.

Can we not do this? He's 19, he'll probably read this. Don't write him off before we've even seen him kick a ball.

Quoted from gtfc98

Can we not do this? He's 19, he'll probably read this. Don't write him off before we've even seen him kick a ball.

I haven’t written him off. Since we were told that we were 6 or 7 short, we’ve signed a winger on loan from Walsall and now face several months of being without McAtee. Do you really expect a 19 year old with zero experience to fill those gaps? Be realistic.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I haven’t written him off. Since we were told that we were 6 or 7 short, we’ve signed a winger on loan from Walsall and now face several months of being without McAtee. Do you really expect a 19 year old with zero experience to fill those gaps? Be realistic.

We've also signed Morris and Green since he said we were 6 or 7 short...

One of which he was talking about was a Goalkeeper.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I haven’t written him off. Since we were told that we were 6 or 7 short, we’ve signed a winger on loan from Walsall and now face several months of being without McAtee. Do you really expect a 19 year old with zero experience to fill those gaps? Be realistic.

We've signed Green, Morris, Smith and Kiernan. Pepple would make it 5. I think we'll see at least another 2 more in before the window closes that takes us to 7. We've still got another month until the window closes.

It really is a bit of a problem that the window is still open once the season starts, it would be so much better for it to close before the first day in my opinion, although it would have been rushed for us this year.

Quoted from gtfc98

We've signed Green, Morris, Smith and Kiernan. Pepple would make it 5. I think we'll see at least another 2 more in before the window closes that takes us to 7. We've still got another month until the window closes.

It really is a bit of a problem that the window is still open once the season starts, it would be so much better for it to close before the first day in my opinion, although it would have been rushed for us this year.

Khan is out for another month, if McAtee needs the operation that’s 3 months minimum and we can’t make any more signings till January. We are well short of attacking options - I’m surprised many are so blasé about it.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

I haven’t written him off. Since we were told that we were 6 or 7 short, we’ve signed a winger on loan from Walsall and now face several months of being without McAtee. Do you really expect a 19 year old with zero experience to fill those gaps? Be realistic.

A winger, a centre half, two centre-mids and now, seemingly, a striker. All either from a division above or the standout player in one of the better conference teams.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Khan is out for another month, if McAtee needs the operation that’s 3 months minimum and we can’t make any more signings till January. We are well short of attacking options - I’m surprised many are so blasé about it.

I'm not being blasé about it at all. I don't think Hurst would think that Pepple would solve all of our options either, but he's going to be a good addition and an unknown quantity for the opposition (and us to an extent). Could be a really exciting player for us. Another 1 or 2 strikers before the end of the window I'm sure are in the pipeline.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Khan is out for another month, if McAtee needs the operation that’s 3 months minimum and we can’t make any more signings till January. We are well short of attacking options - I’m surprised many are so blasé about it.

What's the point in getting your knickers in a twist about it?

I think generally people realise the issues but trust Hurst to sort them. You've gone a little early with your mild hysteria

Quoted from headingly_mariner

What's the point in getting your knickers in a twist about it?

I think generally people realise the issues but trust Hurst to sort them. You've gone a little early with your mild hysteria

I totally appreciate that our turn round was shorter than anyone else’s but I don’t like to see us so short. I appreciate that the feel good mindset should make me let it go but we could be 6 games into the season before we get what we need.

On paper, this lad seems like a massive talent that could either flop or make an absolute mockery of this league, depending on the comparable standard. I think he’ll want another forward on top of him though. McAtee is going to be out until October if he’s having that operation, Taylor is 34 and has a track record of injuries and Orsi remains an unknown quantity who has a not insubstantial muscle injury.

I looked up the aforementioned Elliot today. He looks like the sort of thing. Big and physical, more mobile than Taylor with more of a goal threat, record of 1 in 4 or 5 throughout his career. Hasn’t done anything for the last two years though and it looks as if he’s unattached.

Like the majority of clubs in our division, our squad isn't finished. The problem seems to stem from players(or more likely agents) hoping to get a better deal higher up. Clubs also hang on to players until they can get a replacement in which then cascades players down to our level. let's wait until the end of the window before panicking please.
I'm sure the club and management are aware we still need players and don't really need us to keep pointing out the glaringly obvious.

Quoted from Wedidntdidwe

Like the majority of clubs in our division, our squad isn't finished. The problem seems to stem from players(or more likely agents) hoping to get a better deal higher up. Clubs also hang on to players until they can get a replacement in which then cascades players down to our level. let's wait until the end of the window before panicking please.
I'm sure the club and management are aware we still need players and don't really need us to keep pointing out the glaringly obvious.

If we wait until the window before panicking then we’ll be in a pretty dire situation.

If you’re not looking at our current squad with some level of concern I’d suggest you’re being slightly naive. I’ve no doubt it’ll work out in some way shape or form but if we’re honest, last season we often lacked real bite up front for large parts of the season and we won’t get away with that at this level IMO. I know the window runs up until the end of the month but we’ll be 6 league games in by then and I don’t particularly fancy playing many more of them with no attacking options.

If we sign this Pepple lad, I can't see him being a ready made solution up front. He might hit the ground running, but he's 19 with no EFL experience and Luton will be sending him here to toughen him up and gain some of the experience he'll be lacking.

We really need a striker who's been around and can slot straight in, although I appreciate that seems to be easier said than done.

Not knocking the signings but why oh why is our team never complete in time for the start of the season ?

Quoted from barrattstandman

Not knocking the signings but why oh why is our team never complete in time for the start of the season ?

For the reasons alluded to in this thread. Hursty is quite ambitious regarding signings and he’s very happy to hold his nerve to get the ones he wants, even if that means waiting until deadline day. I’d much rather he operated like this cos it means we’ll end up a better side.

Obviously it isn’t ideal to not have everyone in place but we’re only 2-3 players short of the squad being complete.

Everything is going to be ok.

Quoted from barrattstandman

Not knocking the signings but why oh why is our team never complete in time for the start of the season ?

Due to winning promotion via the play-offs,we had less time to prepare, also Paul may have had targets, but the target does not want to sign for us, so has to goto plan B.C.etc.
Strikers are the hardest to get in, then you have to deal with players agents.

How many teams will have all their players in place before the start of the season, the transfer window is open until 1st September.

Have patience, you know the tortoise and hare story.

UTM

There is always the chance that Hurst could be telling the truth about no signings before the weekend.
While everyone seems to think if we are getting Pepple on loan he will be here imminently, it seems everybody has missed a very important snippet of information that was released when Luton announced that they had signed him.

"subject to international clearance"

Regardless if Luton are happy to offload him, international clearance is everything.

It may mean knack all, but the floodlights were on at the ground until late on Wednesday...

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

It may mean knack all, but the floodlights were on at the ground until late on Wednesday...

3rd kit promo?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

It may mean knack all, but the floodlights were on at the ground until late on Wednesday...

John sneak in was checking if any bulbs needed replacing

Bloody club wasting electricity..don’t they know about the fuel crisis fgs.

That money could’ve been spent on a striker.

Clueless. 😉

Can’t wait for the first meltdown of the season on here if we don’t win on Saturday…zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Patience is a virtue.

Just a reminder that the club were in National League last season..have got promoted possibly a year earlier than planned/imagined..have got a very good manager in place, whose retained most of squad, secured money for our asset, got a defender on a season long loan from a Championship club, we’ve owners who have the clubs interest/long term future in mind, fans have bought into what’s going on..and rightly so..

And not everything is going to be plain sailing, it isn’t easy ..but when the club is in the best place it’s been in for 20 years..enjoy it! Don’t just jump on anything to whinge..

We’ll be ok..it might take a few weeks to catch up to others as we had a short pre season but we will..this manager is relentless in his desire to succeed..push on..

Back him..and those working to ensure he has the best chance to do so.

We could do a Holloway and sign loads of strikers

Quoted from headingly_mariner

We could do a Holloway and sign loads of strikers

But then the moaners will moan that we have too many and Hurst has lost the plot. Has Bogle fallen out of favour at Newport yet?

Quoted from marinerjase

Bloody club wasting electricity..don’t they know about the fuel crisis fgs.

That money could’ve been spent on a striker.

Clueless. 😉

Can’t wait for the first meltdown of the season on here if we don’t win on Saturday…zzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Patience is a virtue.

Just a reminder that the club were in National League last season..have got promoted possibly a year earlier than planned/imagined..have got a very good manager in place, whose retained most of squad, secured money for our asset, got a defender on a season long loan from a Championship club, we’ve owners who have the clubs interest/long term future in mind, fans have bought into what’s going on..and rightly so..

And not everything is going to be plain sailing, it isn’t easy ..but when the club is in the best place it’s been in for 20 years..enjoy it! Don’t just jump on anything to whinge..

We’ll be ok..it might take a few weeks to catch up to others as we had a short pre season but we will..this manager is relentless in his desire to succeed..push on..

Back him..and those working to ensure he has the best chance to do so.

We might not be the finished polished article yet, but we are in a far better place than 16 months ago. There may be pitfalls ahead but the club is better prepared to overcome them, it's a time for positive optimism for the future.

INCOMINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Ok lukeo, you're all but relegated, this could lead to a 20 point deduction for the start of next season,!..

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Ok lukeo, you're all but relegated, this could lead to a 20 point deduction for the start of next season,!..

Make you a deal.

When we announce him tonight I get my points back plus an extra 3 for a win moving me out of the relegation place
If it fails I liquidise myself and never post about rumours for 22/23 and 23/24 seasons.

Quoted from lukeo

Make you a deal.

When we announce him tonight I get my points back plus an extra 3 for a win moving me out of the relegation place
If it fails I liquidise myself and never post about rumours for 22/23 and 23/24 seasons.

Surely quality of information would be needed here by means of a name? Could be a shot in the dark that gets lucky....

Quoted from gtfc_chris

Surely quality of information would be needed here by means of a name? Could be a shot in the dark that gets lucky....

agreed. Lukeo is just Itbites but a southern version ;)

Quoted from gtfc_chris

Surely quality of information would be needed here by means of a name? Could be a shot in the dark that gets lucky....

Especially given there’s been reports of us in for Pepple from credible sources 😅

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Especially given there’s been reports of us in for Pepple from credible sources 😅

Still nothing to say Pepple has international clearance yet.

Quoted from lukeo

INCOMINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Nope

Lukeos probably on about Smiths signing, news moves a little more slowly down his way. (icon_lol)

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Lukeos probably on about Smiths signing, news moves a little more slowly down his way. (icon_lol)

Poor lad seems to be getting a lot of stick of late, perhaps he should be cut some slack.

Quoted from FPVmariner

Poor lad seems to be getting a lot of stick of late, perhaps he should be cut some slack.

He once bragged on here about going to Lincoln games and sitting in the home end. He deserves nothing from anyone. ;D

Quoted from Kris2

He once bragged on here about going to Lincoln games and sitting in the home end. He deserves nothing from anyone. ;D

Fûck me, I need to learn not to mention L*keo it’s a guaranteed Red Cross deluge. Man’s obviously an utter knòbjockey.

Quoted from Kris2

He once bragged on here about going to Lincoln games and sitting in the home end. He deserves nothing from anyone. ;D

Think it was worse than that.

Wasn't it Scunny he attended?

Quoted from ginnywings

Think it was worse than that.

Wasn't it Scunny he attended?

I've a vague memory of that, now you mention it.

Bit of ribbing is OK and yes Lukeo did go to a scunny match to get his footy fix .....but he is a true passionate town fan ....and a proper nice man on top of that

When I lived in Grimsby I did a few games people moaned at me for at the time.. the main one you're thinking of is when the town game was cancelled in London so we went to Watford v Scunthorpe like many other town fans.... problem was (because of my grandad) we ended up going in with the Scummy fans whereas everyone else obviously went in the home end!

I also went in the Southend end v Hull, Swindon v Scunny along with a few other teams (FC united of Manchester) back in the day when I lived in Grimsby just because I loved doing it.

To be fair, this is a forum and sometimes I do post stuff that I know will get nibbles. Admittedly I am a bit of a male private at times aswell so maybe I need to cut that excrement out at my age!

Thanks Nutty for the comment. I hope you're world netting next year! I haven't seen you (sober) for far too long ;D

Quoted from lukeo

When I lived in Grimsby I did a few games people moaned at me for at the time.. the main one you're thinking of is when the town game was cancelled in London so we went to Watford v Scunthorpe like many other town fans.... problem was (because of my grandad) we ended up going in with the Scummy fans whereas everyone else obviously went in the home end!

I also went in the Southend end v Hull, Swindon v Scunny along with a few other teams (FC united of Manchester) back in the day when I lived in Grimsby just because I loved doing it.

To be fair, this is a forum and sometimes I do post stuff that I know will get nibbles. Admittedly I am a bit of a male private at times aswell so maybe I need to cut that excrement out at my age!

Thanks Nutty for the comment. I hope you're world netting next year! I haven't seen you (sober) for far too long ;D

Love the honesty x utm mate

Quoted from lukeo

When I lived in Grimsby I did a few games people moaned at me for at the time.. the main one you're thinking of is when the town game was cancelled in London so we went to Watford v Scunthorpe like many other town fans.... problem was (because of my grandad) we ended up going in with the Scummy fans whereas everyone else obviously went in the home end!

I also went in the Southend end v Hull, Swindon v Scunny along with a few other teams (FC united of Manchester) back in the day when I lived in Grimsby just because I loved doing it.

To be fair, this is a forum and sometimes I do post stuff that I know will get nibbles. Admittedly I am a bit of a male private at times aswell so maybe I need to cut that excrement out at my age!

Thanks Nutty for the comment. I hope you're world netting next year! I haven't seen you (sober) for far too long ;D

Balls to all that, who are we signing.

It will be that loanee from Luton for a guess.

Quoted from 123614

It will be that loanee from Luton for a guess.

not saying it's not happening at all but nothing happening today.

I would think Luton would want to see him in training at the very least before making a decision to loan him out

Quoted from Wedidntdidwe

I would think Luton would want to see him in training at the very least before making a decision to loan him out

His move to Luton was extremely drawn out as his former team announced that he was leaving for England in July so I'd guess that he's been training with them for a few weeks before they announced it.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

His move to Luton was extremely drawn out as his former team announced that he was leaving for England in July so I'd guess that he's been training with them for a few weeks before they announced it.

Had trials at 2 or 3 clubs before he signed for Luton. Leicester being one.

Taylor is fit enough to start tomorrow.

Interesting, and lengthy, read on Pepple here. Seems FGR wanted him but Luton beat them to the punch.

https://onesoccer.ca/a/aribim-pepple-to-luton-town-behind-the-scenes-of-a-cpl-transfer-cavalry-fc

Quoted from ginnywings

Had trials at 2 or 3 clubs before he signed for Luton. Leicester being one.

He had a trial with Leicester in 2020 according to the article posted above. That article was very interesting in terms of how clubs do business, some want videos but Luton were interested in all of his data to inform their decision making.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

He had a trial with Leicester in 2020 according to the article posted above. That article was very interesting in terms of how clubs do business, some want videos but Luton were interested in all of his data to inform their decision making.

Yeah, I read the article.

Didn't realise he had been over before when he was 19. I thought his trials with Leicester and Sheff Utd were recent, so my mistake.

Quoted from ginnywings

Yeah, I read the article.

Didn't realise he had been over before when he was 19. I thought his trials with Leicester and Sheff Utd were recent, so my mistake.

Was only 17 when he trialled at Sheff Utd and Leicester only 19 now. If you watch his intro interview at Luton he is a very confident lad likened his overall game to Lukaku.Potentially good Impact sub while he learns.

https://youtu.be/2SP0IExZbm8

Apologies if this video after his signing for Luton has already been posted. He comes across as a really pleasant lad, enthusiastic and excited, with bags of confidence in his ability but also humble and grateful about what he sees as a great opportunity. He would of course be a gamble if he signs for us as he may not be ready for league football yet but on the other hand he has had interest from a number of clubs so he could turn out to be a real coup.

Quoted from HerveJosse

Was only 17 when he trialled at Sheff Utd and Leicester only 19 now. If you watch his intro interview at Luton he is a very confident lad likened his overall game to Lukaku.Potentially good Impact sub while he learns.

Not doing well with this one am I?

Quoted from Mariner56

https://youtu.be/2SP0IExZbm8

Apologies if this video after his signing for Luton has already been posted. He comes across as a really pleasant lad, enthusiastic and excited, with bags of confidence in his ability but also humble and grateful about what he sees as a great opportunity. He would of course be a gamble if he signs for us as he may not be ready for league football yet but on the other hand he has had interest from a number of clubs so he could turn out to be a real coup.

I don't know what sort of quality tge CPL is, I would guess at NLN/NLS sort of level, but I would welcome him signing - we could do with the reinforcements and players under 21 don't count towards your squad cap do they? He also seems like a very likeable guy.

Apparently Sam Winnall was at the game today

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Apparently Sam Winnall was at the game today

Pebble definitely was.

Winnall can't have impressed at Burton

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Pebble definitely was.

Winnall can't have impressed at Burton

Wasn't she one of the Flintstones?

Anyone know what the delay is with Pepple? Hurst said in his post-match interview that his international clearance came through two days ago for Luton.

Quoted from davmariner

Anyone know what the delay is with Pepple? Hurst said in his post-match interview that his international clearance came through two days ago for Luton.

Probably not enough time to sort a loan, meet his team mates and train with them before today's game.

Expect that if he signs, he'll get a run out in the cup match.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Pebble definitely was.

Winnall can't have impressed at Burton

https://www.staffordshire-live.co.uk/sport/football/brewers-boss-time-7151744

Sounds like he has impressed at Burton, just that he’s well behind on fitness. Seems he’s still training with them.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

Apparently Sam Winnall was at the game today

He wasn’t

Only player I could make out next to Scannell from the matchday moments clip was Essel.

Am guessing that Pepple will be announced today and possibly on the bench for the game tomorrow

Are we signing a third player on loan from Luton?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Are we signing a third player on loan from Luton?

Whilst I don't think anyone actually knows, it is certainly one conclusion you could take from Jason's RH interview.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Are we signing a third player on loan from Luton?

McAtee has been confirmed, Pepple as good as, if the rumours correct. Who is going to be No 3?

Quoted from Mikey_345

Whilst I don't think anyone actually knows, it is certainly one conclusion you could take from Jason's RH interview.

I haven’t listened to that yet. Anyone heard it Luton have offered us Harry Isted on loan?

Also has the McAtee fee been kept artificially low to reduce Scunthorpe’s sell on fee?

e.g. If Luton paid £500,000 for McAtee and we paid McAtee’s wages (and maybe 2 others as well) for the season then Scunny would get 15% of the profit (around £70,000). But if Luton paid McAtee’s wages (and 2 others) in full and we accept a lower fee with Scunny getting less.

Over the season we could easily pay out £200,000 in wages for 3 loan players.

A listener on the DN35 podcast suggested Devonte Remond was at the game. Ex Man United, Salford and Wrexham central midfielder. Free agent. Prehaps training with us?

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I haven’t listened to that yet. Anyone heard it Luton have offered us Harry Isted on loan?

Zero goals in 25 appearances, typical Hurst signing, smdh.

Quoted from Youngy

A listener on the DN35 podcast suggested Devonte Remond was at the game. Ex Man United, Salford and Man United central midfielder. Free agent. Prehaps training with us?

Good friend of John McAtee, could be nothing more than just keeping him company whilst JM is sidelined

Quoted from Youngy

A listener on the DN35 podcast suggested Devonte Remond was at the game. Ex Man United, Salford and Man United central midfielder. Free agent. Prehaps training with us?

Played 5 times in non-league in last 2 years, something not right there...

Devonte Redmond wiki does say he was on trial at Shrewsbury in 2018, which could have been when Hurst was there depending on when in 2018 it was.

Quoted from Jarmo.Is.God

Played 5 times in non-league in last 2 years, something not right there...

He was on loan at Kidderminster in the final half of last season and played 14. But yes, something clearly not right for somebody who was very highly rated earlier in his career.

It's gone from exciting signings to desperate ones...

This is why you don't leave it late to sign players.

Most of the good ones have gone.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

It's gone from exciting signings to desperate ones...

This is why you don't leave it late to sign players.

Most of the good ones have gone.

Considering we've had far less time to prepare then other teams have, generally our business has been solid. Pepple signing is another boost. Not every signing is going to capture the imagination but you can't say we've done badly this window.

it wasnt devante rodney it was Pepple

Quoted from Hagrid

it wasnt devante Rodney, it was Pepple

I’m imagining you saying that in Boycie’s voice (out of Only Fools…not Andrew Boyce).

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I haven’t listened to that yet. Anyone heard it Luton have offered us Harry Isted on loan?

Also has the McAtee fee been kept artificially low to reduce Scunthorpe’s sell on fee?

e.g. If Luton paid £500,000 for McAtee and we paid McAtee’s wages (and maybe 2 others as well) for the season then Scunny would get 15% of the profit (around £70,000). But if Luton paid McAtee’s wages (and 2 others) in full and we accept a lower fee with Scunny getting less.

Over the season we could easily pay out £200,000 in wages for 3 loan players.

I thought it was a tribunal ruling so may not even be a sell-on clause.
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/grimsby-town-scunthorpe-mcatee-tribunal-5981660

wonder if we might be getting a keeper on loan - Luton have 4 'senior' goalkeepers. Harry Isted , and more interestingly, Matt Macey would appear to be the ones who 3rd and 4th in the queue

Could be related to John Macey !!

Quoted from Grimsby2012

It's gone from exciting signings to desperate ones...

This is why you don't leave it late to sign players.

Most of the good ones have gone.

Late? The window doesn’t close for over 3 weeks.

Quoted from Southwark Mariner

I thought it was a tribunal ruling so may not even be a sell-on clause.
https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/grimsby-town-scunthorpe-mcatee-tribunal-5981660

Tribunals always include a sell-on clause. 15% is standard.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

It's gone from exciting signings to desperate ones...

This is why you don't leave it late to sign players.

Most of the good ones have gone.

Clown

Quoted from Grimsby2012

It's gone from exciting signings to desperate ones...

This is why you don't leave it late to sign players.

Most of the good ones have gone.

Bore off.

An unsurprising incoming

Quoted from pontoonlew

An unsurprising incoming

Glad to get this Bennett deal over the line, finally.

no doubt its a bit of a punt and im certainly not expecting fireworks, but good look to Pepple! is he our first canadian?

Quoted from Hagrid

no doubt its a bit of a punt and im certainly not expecting fireworks, but good look to Pepple! is he our first canadian?

Years and years ago we set up some sort of scouting network in Canada. No idea what happened with that other than most likely was cut when we were relegated from the 1st Division.

Quoted from Hagrid

no doubt its a bit of a punt and im certainly not expecting fireworks, but good look to Pepple! is he our first canadian?

Nope. We had Simeon Jackson on loan from Walsall under Jolley.

Quoted from Hagrid

no doubt its a bit of a punt and im certainly not expecting fireworks, but good look to Pepple! is he our first canadian?

He was born in Kettering I think.

Apparently Town interested in young Hull striker Billy Chadwick.

Recently returned to training June time following an ACL injury on loan at Linfield. Hull fans seem to rate him.

Believe there was interest when Hurst rejoined back in the 2021 January window (Humberside reported).

Also shares the same agent as Hurst, Waterfall and Kiernan so wouldn’t be too unimaginable.

Quoted from AlwaysHaddock1878

Apparently Town interested in young Hull striker Billy Chadwick.

Recently returned to training June time following an ACL injury on loan at Linfield. Hull fans seem to rate him.

Believe there was interest when Hurst rejoined back in the 2021 January window (Humberside reported).

Also shares the same agent as Hurst, Waterfall and Kiernan so wouldn’t be too unimaginable.

Was distinctly underwhelming at linfield, and has to be a bit of a risk given the injury

Quoted from davmariner

https://www.staffordshire-live.co.uk/sport/football/brewers-boss-time-7151744

Sounds like he has impressed at Burton, just that he’s well behind on fitness. Seems he’s still training with them.

A burton fan said he doesn't think he's with them now

Quoted from AlwaysHaddock1878

Apparently Town interested in young Hull striker Billy Chadwick.

Recently returned to training June time following an ACL injury on loan at Linfield. Hull fans seem to rate him.

Believe there was interest when Hurst rejoined back in the 2021 January window (Humberside reported).

Also shares the same agent as Hurst, Waterfall and Kiernan so wouldn’t be too unimaginable.

I saw something on Twitter that suggested Scott Brown or at least the company he works for acts for Kiernan.

Billy Chadwick was very highly rated at Hull. Banged goals in for the Under 23's. But after a two loan spells out and a serious ACL injury, surely his time at Hull is coming to an end (he's now 22). For me, he's worth a punt. He can play up top and on both flanks.

I am just watching the Pepple interview on marinerstv, I don't recognise this player or am I being dumb. Looks like a tattoo near his ear? Perhaps one of the youth players.

Looks like Aaron Braithwaite that does. 1st year pro.

Quoted from Tommy

Looks like Aaron Braithwaite that does. 1st year pro.

Think you could be right, I did look at him too but think its 95 % him

The Sam Winnall interest is genuine, although he definitely wasn’t at the game on Saturday.

Quoted from Surrey97

The Sam Winnall interest is genuine, although he definitely wasn’t at the game on Saturday.

i suspect he'll be wanting a fair whack. but Hurst has worked with him before so he'll know him better than most, i assume he is the one we're holding out the number 9 shirt for

When did Hurst work with him before?

Quoted from sam gy

When did Hurst work with him before?

sorry i have no idea what i was talking about, got in my head he had him at Scunny but he was manager here when Winnall was there- Apologies!

Was Winnall released by Oxford at the end of the season and he’s still a free agent?

Quoted from Epworth Mariner

Was Winnall released by Oxford at the end of the season and he’s still a free agent?

Yep, was on trial at Burton but abit unclear if he's still there or not. Heard he scored a hattrick in a behind closed door trial match but seems he's along way behind fitness wise if you listen to Burton fans.

This would be some signing of true, think he could work really well with Taylor up front with Keirnan and Wearne in the team with him. Provided he gets himself in shape, he was scoring plenty of goals 2 leagues above us not so long ago, this could be a bit of a coup at this level.

Regarding those saying he wants a fair whack, he probably does but the season is well under way now and he’s probably not a position to be demanding top dollar anymore.

Even if he does want a fair wedge, just give it him. The other options are bringing in nobody or bringing in someone of lower quality to save a few quid. People have dug deep last season and this season, including the owners, and it’s not like we’ll go bankrupt if he doesn’t work out.

Aye his strike rate doesn’t look great recently but Hurst has brought players in with much worse records in the past

JMD was clearly below full fitness last season but still produces some good performances ib short spells.

If Winnall is an honest option, then surely the coaching staff will have time to produce a fittef player over a period of a month, maybe, in the rough time frame as a pre season ??

Players who know how to find the net often win out by savvy in their positioning, like JMD's goal on Saturday, and the play off winner.

It all depends on Winnall`s fitness and if he is motivated enough. But he may be the missing piece of the puzzle - our No. 9?
If Hurst signs him it will also be a message to the other teams in the league: Win All! ;)

Injury prone and on the decline. No to Winnall.

Regarding his requested earnings, with any questions that might exist over his fitness and/or goal return (which is never a known in any striker), perhaps the way to go is a steady weekly wage with good financial incentives and bonuses.

Not just goals but assists, games, wins and it might not be completely out of the question for any player in this day and age to be linked to stats too.

Although we're likely to have a slightly inflated budget to what we may have previously been used to I think it would be unwise to start spending it haphazardly. I definitely agree that a Winnall of yesteryear would be a coup, but as others have said, that was then, what is he now?

There will always be a risk when signing strikers as to whether they'll replicate the form that will have made them desirable and sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesnt. I think that gamble is better reserved for younger players than those heading towards the end of their career. That isn't to say I'm against bringing older players in if PH thinks they can do a job but if there are any question marks about their current ability and it's more the name we're paying for then that isn't sensible business.

For me, I'd bring him on board but keep an eye out for a longer term striker on the up perhaps for January transfer window.

He's still only 31 and has played upper league 1/championship level for the last 8 years. Yes he hasn't been prolific for a good few seasons, but you'd think he'd been more than adequate for this level. We talk about marquee signings and I'm not really sure what people expect as I think we'd struggle to sign anyone with a better pedigree

Quoted from gtfc_chris

For me, I'd bring him on board but keep an eye out for a longer term striker on the up perhaps for January transfer window.

May struggle with a work permit but……….

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/blog-the-toe-poke/story/4568030/kazuyoshi-miura-is-still-going-at-54here-are-the-worlds-oldest-players

16 goals in almost 100 games in the last 5 years, admittedly at a higher level. Age 31. Unknown fitness status. I’d trust Hurst to call this right if indeed there was interest.

Quoted from davmariner

Injury prone and on the decline. No to Winnall.

Injury prone and on the decline. No to Ryan Taylor.

Karl Robinson had v. kind words for him, so no hint there of a poor attitude and my Oxford pals all said hew as hard working.
I'm presuming from his career, plus the fact he has been training with Burton, that he is based around these parts?
If so then his options are pretty limited, which might leave us in a good position.
One things is for certain, PH won't be paying top dollar for an unfit, ageing pro with a poor attitude - in PH we trust

Sam Winall is here tonight....maybe nowt in it, who knows .

Pics or it didn’t happen. Sorry, I don’t make the rules!

It amuses me that any of our fans would back themselves to positively identify Sam Winnall

More likely to be Sam Dingle.

I couldn’t draw him in crayon. No idea what he looks like.

Hurst tells JT post match no interest in Sam Winnall.

Quoted from bax

Hurst tells JT post match no interest in Sam Winnall.

Expect him to sign tomorrow then.

Quoted from bax

Hurst tells JT post match no interest in Sam Winnall.

I’ve no interest in Kylie Minogue 😛

Quoted from mariner91

Expect him to sign tomorrow then.

It was a pretty straightforward no to any interest similarly to his reply to the Dallas question.

Besides, Winnall is not really a Paul Hurst type player.

Quoted from davmariner

It was a pretty straightforward no to any interest similarly to his reply to the Dallas question.

Besides, Winnall is not really a Paul Hurst type player.

What is a Hurst type player? I've given up guessing who he'll try to bring in. Was saying at the game last night, it's one of the things I like most about him is that the vast majority of players he signs are ones we've never heard of and are total unknowns.

Quoted from diehardmariner

What is a Hurst type player? I've given up guessing who he'll try to bring in. Was saying at the game last night, it's one of the things I like most about him is that the vast majority of players he signs are ones we've never heard of and are total unknowns.

Just ask the font of all knowledge. He’ll know. Still waiting for that midfielder btw…

Obviously I trust Hurst's judgement ahead of anyone else's on here on Winnall but if he's torn, then I hope he takes a chance on him as this could be our last chance to sign (rather than loan) a no 9 with pedigree until January.

That said, I don't know if we're definitely in for him and/or what other options are on the table for the remainder of this window.

What I do know, is if it's a choice of A) Winnall, B) a raw youngster as a No 9, or C) stick with what we have, then I hope Hurst goes with the first option.

Not quite as simple as that though.

I get the argument that Winnall is no longer a championship player and may want a few extra quid but in answer to the former Gary Birtles didn't do bad for us and in answer to the latter, pay peanuts* get monkeys (most of the time).

The issue which concerns me most is realistically how many games we could expect to get out of Winnall this season as we don't want another Hanson on the books, on top dollar.

*Easy for me to say when it's someone else's cash

Quoted from Withnail

Obviously I trust Hurst's judgement ahead of anyone else's on here on Winnall but if he's torn, then I hope he takes a chance on him as this could be our last chance to sign (rather than loan) a no 9 with pedigree until January.

That said, I don't know if we're definitely in for him and/or what other options are on the table for the remainder of this window.

What I do know, is if it's a choice of A) Winnall, B) a raw youngster as a No 9, or C) stick with what we have, then I hope Hurst goes with the first option.

Not quite as simple as that though.

I get the argument that Winnall is no longer a championship player and may want a few extra quid but in answer to the former Gary Birtles didn't do bad for us and in answer to the latter, pay peanuts* get monkeys (most of the time).

The issue which concerns me most is realistically how many games we could expect to get out of Winnall this season as we don't want another Hanson on the books, on top dollar.

*Easy for me to say when it's someone else's cash

Well, we have a raw youngster in Pepple, so surely we are looking to sign an experienced striker or at least one with a proven record in the league below?

No rumours for a few days now?
Surely someone has some to get us excited….

I haven’t a clue by the way !

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Well, we have a raw youngster in Pepple, so surely we are looking to sign an experienced striker or at least one with a proven record in the league below?

We have one with a proven record in the league below, too. Danilo Orsi.

Two weeks to the deadline. Wouldn’t expect anything this week, but I’m sure PH will have short list ready for when the flurry starts in the last week. Given Evan Khouri’s progress, and our new two left back option, do we need anything other than a striker and a no. 10?

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Two weeks to the deadline. Wouldn’t expect anything this week, but I’m sure PH will have short list ready for when the flurry starts in the last week. Given Evan Khouri’s progress, and our new two left back option, do we need anything other than a striker and a no. 10?

It will be interesting to see if we make any signings for the left hand side of the pitch. A new LB would indicate Glennon is going to be selected further forward more often.

We're not going to sign a third left back are we?

Why do you get red crosses for asking a question ??

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

We're not going to sign a third left back are we?

Fourth left back you mean, surely Harry is the third left back...

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Two weeks to the deadline. Wouldn’t expect anything this week, but I’m sure PH will have short list ready for when the flurry starts in the last week. Given Evan Khouri’s progress, and our new two left back option, do we need anything other than a striker and a no. 10?

Not sure if PH will be looking for another striker?
He obviously is not going to fork out for a proven striker - even if one were available.
He rates Orsi (2 year deal). Khouri (2 years) & Pepple - non of who have had a decent run out yet.
Just saying.

Khouri isn't a striker though.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Not sure if PH will be looking for another striker?
He obviously is not going to fork out for a proven striker - even if one were available.
He rates Orsi (2 year deal). Khouri (2 years) & Pepple - non of who have had a decent run out yet.
Just saying.

I’m certain he is. We need another target man/link man type is Taylor at 34 won’t be playing every minute of every game and we could do with someone a bit more mobile and more of a goal threat anyway.

Quoted from Heswall Mariner

Not sure if PH will be looking for another striker?
He obviously is not going to fork out for a proven striker - even if one were available.
He rates Orsi (2 year deal). Khouri (2 years) & Pepple - non of who have had a decent run out yet.
Just saying.

I'm pretty sure that 2 year deals were part of the new culture Jason spoke about.

Quoted from Mariner_09

I’m certain he is. We need another target man/link man type is Taylor at 34 won’t be playing every minute of every game and we could do with someone a bit more mobile and more of a goal threat anyway.

With no loans we need at least a striker and a 10. Holohan suddenly looks critical without McAtee. Would be a massive risk to not have at least one other option to allow Green to drop deeper or bring Clifton inside if he is missing.

PH won’t panic
When we get our injuries back there will be super hot competition for places so unless we get someone super special we can’t improve.
If we get someone super special what will that do for team spirit?

A fully fit squad is good enough for playoffs

I think PH will still be looking to get a target man in to back-up Taylor. Not sure he'll feel confident to just rely on Pepple for that. Don't see him bringing in another No.10 though - as I think Khan, Wearne or Orsi will probably fill in that role.

Maybe another keeper as well.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

I think PH will still be looking to get a target man in to back-up Taylor. Not sure he'll feel confident to just rely on Pepple for that. Don't see him bringing in another No.10 though - as I think Khan, Wearne or Orsi will probably fill in that role.

Maybe another keeper as well.

It's the inability to bring in a loan player after the end of the window, plus 5 from 7 subs, plus McAtee and Scans out for 3 months - only need a couple of injuries in key positions and suddenly we haven't got good options for the bench. Let's face it, on Saturday, ideally Taylor would have come off earlier if we'd had someone more experienced than Pepple to come on (albeit his run led to the goal...). Also it would be good to have the next "McAtee" on the production line

It’s highly unlikely, especially given his injury hiatus, but Joshua Kayode, would be one of those that PH could be keeping tabs on as mentioned many times before

It looks like the Sam winnall hype has cooled somewhat too.

I'd like to see us go for another striker, a left footed winger and a backup GK to keep Crocombe on his toes. Loan out Battersby, Goundry who is way down the pecking order since Smith came back and think the squad will be set

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Khouri isn't a striker though.

Ahh - my mistook, easily confused these days.
Still think he'll persevere with Orsi & Pepple though.

I've got an in Bound feeling

Quoted from It Bites

I've got an in Bound feeling

Eat more fibre and drink more water.

Quoted from It Bites

I've got an in Bound feeling

is this just another revelation about a no. 9 that we might sign, or a PH revolution - we actually sign a no. 9

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

is this just another revelation about a no. 9 that we might sign, or a PH revolution - we actually sign a no. 9

I don't know it's just based on the club's media activity the last couple of days 😂

Everyone can say that. Just wait till it happens ffs, too many wanting to be heard, and too many want to joke on topics to be heard. Stick to the topic guys, put honest info on what we want to read, stop being an bottom, and give informative relating to topics, sick of reading garbage.

Quoted from It Bites

I've got an in Bound feeling

Let’s just check the standings -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
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Mendonca1995
Forza Ivano
GtfcGarner

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It Bites
Lukeo
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)

Move along people, nothing to see here

Quoted from ska face

Let’s just check the standings -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
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Mendonca1995
Forza Ivano
GtfcGarner

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It Bites
Lukeo
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)

Move along people, nothing to see here

Lukeo got relegated weeks ago.

Quoted from gtfc98

Lukeo got relegated weeks ago.

I heard that he applied for re-election.

Should start next season with a points deduction!

Quoted from ska face

Let’s just check the standings -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
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Move along people, nothing to see here

I predicted Pepple on here 11 minutes after he signed for Luton. That has to be place me in midtable at least surely? 😜

Whatever Woz has done to be lower than the Telegraph Sport must be insane. He can’t possibly have posted more absolute shïte than them??!

Quoted from PoutonStepover

Whatever Woz has done to be lower than the Telegraph Sport must be insane. He can’t possibly have posted more absolute shïte than them??!

I probably owe him a pint or something and even though we’ve been mates 20 years, obviously means nothing 🥳🥳🥳

Not that I care and obviously ska doesn’t make the rules

I came to the show late so have a few weeks in hand, otherwise I'm pretty much relegated anyway >:(

Quoted from lukeo

I came to the show late so have a few weeks in hand, otherwise I'm pretty much relegated anyway >:(

Psssssssst it’s not real

maybe incoming signing on wednesday

Quoted from PoutonStepover

Whatever Woz has done to be lower than the Telegraph Sport must be insane. He can’t possibly have posted more absolute shïte than them??!

Woz is the best person to ever grace BP but has never called a transfer correctly so, unfortunately, occupies the basement position. Sorry, I don’t make the rules!

I have just opened this rumours thread hoping to hear about a potential signing.
I know , I am an idiot. I have just punched myself in the face to remind me not to do this again.

Quoted from Zmariner

I have just opened this rumours thread hoping to hear about a potential signing.
I know , I am an idiot. I have just punched myself in the face to remind me not to do this again.

😂😂😂

Quoted from Zmariner

I have just opened this rumours thread hoping to hear about a potential signing.
I know , I am an idiot. I have just punched myself in the face to remind me not to do this again.

Was it a Murray jones punch?

Or did you hit the target?

Hang on..
Is this a clue..
Jason puncheon?

Are we getting that twit back that tried headbutting that other player I've forgotten too?

Anyways moving on do we haveany transfer rumours

Think we missed out on Carlos Mendes Gomes loaned from Luton to Fleetwood.

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Anyways moving on do we haveany transfer rumours

Nothing at the minute. Only one to keep an eye out for is gtfcmd’s shout of a possible incoming on Wednesday. Everything else has gone quiet.

Golly's winger from up the divisions never materialised, neither did a name. There’s a very tall bloke with short dreads who had been spotted at BP with Liam Emmerson which didn’t amount to anything. Surrey97 says we’re interested in Sam Winnall, he’s still without a club and conflicting reports about whether he’s been at home matches, so we’ll have to see. There was talk about a couple of Luton players coming our way after McAtee went, so not unreasonable to hope for another Luton youngster in addition to Pepple but no names.

I’m still hoping for Joshua Kayode at Rotherham, think hagrid mentioned there had been interest (I could be wrong) but I’m not holding my breath. Rotherham’s decent start will be helpful in that regard though.

Quoted from ska face

Nothing at the minute. Only one to keep an eye out for is gtfcmd’s shout of a possible incoming on Wednesday. Everything else has gone quiet.

Golly's winger from up the divisions never materialised, neither did a name. There’s a very tall bloke with short dreads who had been spotted at BP with Liam Emmerson which didn’t amount to anything. Surrey97 says we’re interested in Sam Winnall, he’s still without a club and conflicting reports about whether he’s been at home matches, so we’ll have to see. There was talk about a couple of Luton players coming our way after McAtee went, so not unreasonable to hope for another Luton youngster in addition to Pepple but no names.

I’m still hoping for Joshua Kayode at Rotherham, think hagrid mentioned there had been interest (I could be wrong) but I’m not holding my breath. Rotherham’s decent start will be helpful in that regard though.

thats correct, we enquired about him on a season long loan, wouldnt be surprised to see us go back in for him

Quoted from ska face

Nothing at the minute. Only one to keep an eye out for is gtfcmd’s shout of a possible incoming on Wednesday. Everything else has gone quiet.

Golly's winger from up the divisions never materialised, neither did a name. There’s a very tall bloke with short dreads who had been spotted at BP with Liam Emmerson which didn’t amount to anything. Surrey97 says we’re interested in Sam Winnall, he’s still without a club and conflicting reports about whether he’s been at home matches, so we’ll have to see. There was talk about a couple of Luton players coming our way after McAtee went, so not unreasonable to hope for another Luton youngster in addition to Pepple but no names.

I’m still hoping for Joshua Kayode at Rotherham, think hagrid mentioned there had been interest (I could be wrong) but I’m not holding my breath. Rotherham’s decent start will be helpful in that regard though.

Hasn't PH said he wants 4 in before the deadline including a keeper, and he expects things to happen nearer to the deadline. or did I dream that...?

Yeah he says allsorts if stuff. I know it’s verboten to say so, but I do think he’s far too picky at times, especially when signing forwards. Suppose the next 9 days are a waiting game and someone’s going to have to blink.

Quoted from ska face

Yeah he says allsorts if stuff. I know it’s verboten to say so, but I do think he’s far too picky at times, especially when signing forwards. Suppose the next 9 days are a waiting game and someone’s going to have to blink.

Unfortunately, the one time he wasn't too picky about a forward, we ended up with Payne...

Quoted from Maringer

Unfortunately, the one time he wasn't too picky about a forward, we ended up with Payne...

Hadn't we just lost 3-0 at Scunthorpe? If so that possibly does excuse a knee jerk...

Quoted from ska face

Yeah he says allsorts if stuff. I know it’s verboten to say so, but I do think he’s far too picky at times, especially when signing forwards. Suppose the next 9 days are a waiting game and someone’s going to have to blink.

His recruitment is the best I can remember from any town manager and I include Lord Buckley in that. If pickiness is the reason for that then I’m fully supportive.

Quoted from Vance Warner

His recruitment is the best I can remember from any town manager and I include Lord Buckley in that. If pickiness is the reason for that then I’m fully supportive.

If the two Halifax first-team recruits perform as well as that ageing Halifax reserve teamer that AB brought in then PH is a footballing genius...

We need a striker. Taylor at 34 isn’t up to it for 46 games a season in L2. This Kayoude lad on paper looks perfect. Big, physical, athletic and more of a goal threat. Hasn’t he been injured hence the interest cooled a month or so ago? That striker is the one position we’re missing to nit it all together. Wingers at this level will be a bit hit and miss, it’s the nature of playing down in L2, the midfield is as strong as I think we’ve had for some time and you won’t get a better back four than we’ve got in L2. That one striker with the attributes described above could transform us from a decent, competitive, top half ish side into one that could genuinely challenge.

I think Kayode's injured isn't he?

Quoted from diehardmariner

I think Kayode's injured isn't he?

Hamstring, was expected to be out for 10 weeks, then down to 6 in mid-July. Probably be a few weeks off it but can’t imagine he’ll see much action at Rotherham this year

May help us that. If he was out for 6 weeks in mid July, he’ll be back in the next couple of weeks but even further down the pecking order at Rotherham.

Quoted from ska face

Nothing at the minute. Only one to keep an eye out for is gtfcmd’s shout of a possible incoming on Wednesday. Everything else has gone quiet.

Golly's winger from up the divisions never materialised, neither did a name. There’s a very tall bloke with short dreads who had been spotted at BP with Liam Emmerson which didn’t amount to anything. Surrey97 says we’re interested in Sam Winnall, he’s still without a club and conflicting reports about whether he’s been at home matches, so we’ll have to see. There was talk about a couple of Luton players coming our way after McAtee went, so not unreasonable to hope for another Luton youngster in addition to Pepple but no names.

I’m still hoping for Joshua Kayode at Rotherham, think hagrid mentioned there had been interest (I could be wrong) but I’m not holding my breath. Rotherham’s decent start will be helpful in that regard though.

I never said he was a target this summer. He definitely was enquired about last summer but politely made his intention known that he wouldn’t drop into the National League and went elsewhere to great success. I only mentioned it because I noticed he didn’t make the squad for his clubs’ first league match after being used as a sub in his clubs final preseason match. He subsequently had a couple of short cameo appearances off the bench.

He started his first league game of the season on Saturday. And I did a bit of research into him and it appears his current club have transformed him from a winger into a defensive central midfielder. The player is Tom Pett who won promotion from L2 with Port Vale last season.

Port Vale have had a frustrating transfer window. I have no idea if he’ll become available if/when PV make the signings they want. I also have no idea if Hurst still has him on his long list of potential targets. And I also have no idea whether Pett would fancy moving back to Lincolnshire.

A few people said something about a Dutch striker, someone told me that we are trying to sign Van Veen, but I can't see that as he's starting games in Scotland and he's a lazy twit.

Interesting that Sylla Sow at Wednesday's move back to Holland has fallen through and they've just signed a striker. Complete shot in the dark and maybe out of our price range.

Could be total balderdash

Quoted from headingly_mariner

A few people said something about a Dutch striker, someone told me that we are trying to sign Van Veen, but I can't see that as he's starting games in Scotland and he's a lazy twit.

Interesting that Sylla Sow at Wednesday's move back to Holland has fallen through and they've just signed a striker. Complete shot in the dark and maybe out of our price range.

Could be total balderdash

I heard Van Veen too…

Quoted from PoutonStepover

I heard Van Veen too…

A bit too Beagrish for my liking, that.

Quoted from PoutonStepover

I heard Van Veen too…

Wow!!

I heard jingle bells but it’s not Xmas

Quoted from Poojah

A bit too Beagrish for my liking, that.

I’d say it’s more Brodiesque but it would be great just to pis the Scunny fans off.

No thank you Von Veen. Wrong attitude.

Quoted from chaos33

No thank you Von Veen. Wrong attitude.

If he has the wrong attitude PH won't sign him. If we sign him his attitude must be fine under the right coaching team...

Pretty sure Hurst froze Van Veen out at scunny so doubt there's any truth in this.

Quoted from gtfc98

Pretty sure Hurst froze Van Veen out at scunny so doubt there's any truth in this.

he's got off to a great start, scoring goals for fun for a team 3rd in the Scottish prem. Why on earth would he want to come to a mid table Div 2 team?

Quoted from Theimperialcoroner

I’d say it’s more Brodiesque but it would be great just to pis the Scunny fans off.

Exactly what I thought. It's a no from me.

Joe Nuttall has started the season in great goalscoring form in a terrible scunny team. They're that skint we could probably get him for a few of our old vanarama training kits and a packet of skips.

Quoted from gtfc98

Joe Nuttall has started the season in great goalscoring form in a terrible scunny team. They're that skint we could probably get him for a few of our old vanarama training kits and a packet of skips.

Also got caught on video telling the Scunny fans to 'F off' last year. A bit too much of a Stefan Payne character for my liking, let's see what PH pulls out of his magic hat.

Quoted from forza ivano

he's got off to a great start, scoring goals for fun for a team 3rd in the Scottish prem. Why on earth would he want to come to a mid table Div 2 team?

Perhaps he's pining to see the River Humber?

Seems very unlikely to me that we'd be interested in him in any case.

Quoted from Maringer

Perhaps he's pining to see the River Humber?

Seems very unlikely to me that we'd be interested in him in any case.

Pedant alert: 🚨

There’s no such thing as the River Humber. 🙃

Quoted from chaos33

Pedant alert: 🚨

There’s no such thing as the River Humber. 🙃

Everyone knows it’s the Humber River! 🤦‍♂️

i think we will sign the lad from rotherham on loan kayode i think they call him , highly rated but a tad injury prone by the sounds

Quoted from chaos33

Pedant alert: 🚨

There’s no such thing as the River Humber. 🙃

Somebody tell Encyclopaedia Britannica!

https://www.britannica.com/place/River-Humber

:P

So which one are we signing?

River Humber or Humber river?

Be careful throwing names out you may be put into the relegation zone!

Quoted from chaos33

Pedant alert: 🚨

There’s no such thing as the River Humber. 🙃

Correct. Over the last few weeks it’s been a sewer.

Quoted from Maringer

Somebody tell Encyclopaedia Britannica!

https://www.britannica.com/place/River-Humber

:P

Oooh, well, I never knew that. I thought it was an estuary, not a river but fed by rivers.

Every day’s a learning day 🙂

To be a river it has to have a source were water comes to the surface and flows to the sea. The Humber Estuary is formed by two rivers, the Ouse and the Trent coming together and then flowing into the sea. Therefore because it does not have a source of it's own, it cannot be called a river.

Hope this helps

Quoted from mimma

To be a river it has to have a source were water comes to the surface and flows to the sea. The Humber Estuary is formed by two rivers, the Ouse and the Trent coming together and then flowing into the sea. Therefore because it does not have a source of it's own, it cannot be called a river.

Hope this helps

I think you are correct, but if so what is the Ouse? It has no source nor meets the sea.
The Derwent has a source but does not reach the sea. Same with Wharfe, Aire, Trent etc.

The Ouse just follows on from the Ure, they're effectively one and the same.

The Derwent isn't technically a river in the same context, it's a tributary of the Trent.

This all sounds like a sketch from Monty Python …..!!

I live on the isle of Axholme so what’s that a tributary?

Quoted from Epworth Mariner

I live on the isle of Axholme so what’s that a tributary?

I think the technical term is a 'shithole'. ;)

So the Britannica is wrong and I’m right 🙂

Come on can we keep this thread to outrageous rumours please

There aren’t any, so we’re killing time with tributary tittle-tattle, estuary elucidations and river ramblings. 🙂

Interesting to note that while sat here listening to VTS Humber on my scanner radio , A ship it was talking to was told a pilot would be bording them to bring them in to the Humber Estuary

There was a very very big athletic guy sat near me tonight in the upper with a hospitality band could he be our next signing ! A long shot I know and sorry I don't know what any of the previously mentioned rumored players look like.

Quoted from MrsMariner

There was a very very big athletic guy sat near me tonight in the upper with a hospitality band could he be our next signing ! A long shot I know and sorry I don't know what any of the previously mentioned rumored players look like.

That was me.... honest

No new rumour to add, but Josh Kayode made a return from injury coming off the bench for Rotherham last night. If there’s anything at all in our rumoured interest then at least he appears close to fitness as we approach the end of the window with just over a week to go.

Quoted from MrsMariner

There was a very very big athletic guy sat near me tonight in the upper with a hospitality band could he be our next signing ! A long shot I know and sorry I don't know what any of the previously mentioned rumored players look like.

Dean Henderson ?

I still think we should splash the cash and sign Andrew Dallas, After all, he already has one assist for us.

Still think ph waiting on the lad from rotherham to get fit , can't think of any other reason why we haven't brought somebody else in even though i do realise it a tough market for a striker

Joan Rivers (if she was alive) would not score many goals for us but during dull matches she would make everyone laugh and add to the academic debate on rivers and where she came from.

Mark Rivers scored for Crewe at BP in 2001.

To keep teh obscure river references going - River plate have a striker valued at only £45k https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/club-atletico-river-plate/kader/verein/209
Rumour is, Flabian Londono's missus is from Holton le Clay.......

I wonder if PH enquired to Steve Cooper if he had any spare strikers available

I'm sure he did.

Only one in and around the team I can imagine we've half a chance with is Dale Taylor, who made his debut for Forest off the bench.

Believe Alex Hunt could be coming back on loan

Made available for loan this week by Darren Moore.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/sheffield-wednesday-transfer-decisions-deadline-24841428

Wouldn't say no that's for sure and Hurst all but said he wanted to use one of his loans on a midfielder.

Quoted from diehardmariner

I'm sure he did.

Only one in and around the team I can imagine we've half a chance with is Dale Taylor, who made his debut for Forest off the bench.

Gary Birtles could probably still do a job for us

Quoted from diehardmariner

Made available for loan this week by Darren Moore.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/sheffield-wednesday-transfer-decisions-deadline-24841428

Wouldn't say no that's for sure and Hurst all but said he wanted to use one of his loans on a midfielder.

Would add another set piece string to the bow.

Quoted from Surrey97

Believe Alex Hunt could be coming back on loan

Makes you wonder if Hunt may go the same way as Glennon and decide to take the loan with an option to buy at the end of his SW contract.

Quoted from Surrey97

Believe Alex Hunt could be coming back on loan

Would be very happy with that. Moves the ball really quickly, great technical players & set piece delivery. Not shy about getting stuck in either.

Ooh nice. Would give us a hell of a set of central midfielders.

Not quite as good as two years ago, but they would do.

Hunt needs to get his career back on track. Seemed to be moving in the right direction with us and then ended up at Oldham which didn't really work out for him.

Makes sense if it happens..will be interesting in the dynamics of the side though..Moore has alluded to game time, Holohan has looked very good in the advanced role. Morris settling in well, Green not so much as yet - but different type of player to Hunt completely.

Re Hunt obvious ability, did well early on last season though I did think he tailed off somewhat, giving ball away needlessly etc - all part of the learning curve though I guess, and he should get a bit more time on ball in League 2. Doesn’t hurt to have another string to the bow in a key area/competition for places.

If Hunt can recapture that form from the first third of last season then he’ll still be a top player in L2. The issue was he seemed to go missing when it got tough, there’s a reason a player that talented has never made it at Shef Weds or one of the league clubs he’s been on loan at. He probably still needs to fill out and become more physical. If he can, and if anyone can get that out of him, it’s Hursty, he’ll be a very useful player. Plus, he has a mean set piece delivery that adds to our stocks in that department, they’re clearly a big factor at this level.

Quoted from marinerjase

will be interesting in the dynamics of the side though..Moore has alluded to game time, Holohan has looked very good in the advanced role. Morris settling in well, Green not so much as yet - but different type of player to Hunt completely.

I was a big fan of Hunt first time round, but for the reasons above it doesn't feel like the right move for us to make now. If it was permanent then I'd be all for it, but leaving our existing/new players out for a loanee seems a bit iffy to me

I’d be more than happy to get Hunt back, good player.

Quoted from HertsGTFC

I’d be more than happy to get Hunt back, good player.

A good player but not sure he’s better than Morris, green or holohan at this moment in time

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

A good player but not sure he’s better than Morris, green or holohan at this moment in time

I think we’re at the stage where we need some quality in the reserves, particularly in that position. With 5 subs and no loan window after 1st September we need to make sure we don’t leave ourselves exposed because of injuries, suspensions or losses of form or confidence. Given we play 3 midfielders, that’s more likely to occur there than anywhere else on the pitch. Equally, it would push Harry even further down the pecking order in central midfield.

A big no from me for Hunt. Did ok for us in the National League and can take a set-piece but struggled to force his way into a terrible Oldham team. If he were that much of a talent or an impactful player then Oldham would have played him.

We need to be forward facing in our approach. If we’re bringing in loan players then they need to be an improvement on what we have, e.g. Andy Smith.

Quoted from davmariner

A big no from me for Hunt. Did ok for us in the National League and can take a set-piece but struggled to force his way into a terrible Oldham team. If he were that much of a talent or an impactful player then Oldham would have played him.

We need to be forward facing in our approach. If we’re bringing in loan players then they need to be an improvement on what we have, e.g. Andy Smith.

I think that's a little short sighted. Sometimes players don't fit situations. In a relegation dog fight, is a young creative midfielder going to really get a chance to shine?

He's going to come back here potentially to a club who are on the up, with a management team he is familiar with and this time, going into a team that already has a solid midfield which allows him some creative freedom.

With Doigy on interview duty today I'm guessing Hurst is too busy speaking to potential new signings.

Can I be the first to say (within the next 6 days)

INCOMING

Aside from Morris you have Clifton, Green and Holohan - none of which can pass even remotely as well as Hunt. Hurst has said after almost every match that we need to move the ball better/quicker and look after it in possession. Absolutely insane to suggest Hunt isn’t a step up on what we have, even just as another option. One decent half against a team who let us have the ball and suddenly we’re worldbeaters!

Quoted from ska face

Aside from Morris you have Clifton, Green and Holohan - none of which can pass even remotely as well as Hunt. Hurst has said after almost every match that we need to move the ball better/quicker and look after it in possession. Absolutely insane to suggest Hunt isn’t a step up on what we have, even just as another option. One decent half against a team who let us have the ball and suddenly we’re worldbeaters!

the other point about Hunt is Orsi returning to fitness - those 2 might be a great combo

Have a look at orsi's showreel - a large number of those goals he scored for Maidenhead were created by their stocky, black number 6 feeding him with a variety of killer passes

After a good start, I thought Hunt's form dropped right off in his final month but this did coincide with the terrible run of form when we couldn't get a result for love or money. I think the Hunt/McAtee dynamic was important when he was doing well. The question is if we have enough good footballers in the team without McAtee for him to regain his best form? You'd think he'd be able to link up well with Morris, Wearne, JMD and Kiernan who are all skilful footballers, but it might be reliant on how he plays with the second forward, whether this is Orsi or the new striker we're waiting for.

He's probably one of those players who does well in a better team rather than being able to drag the team's level on his own.

Hunt was absolutely key in the side that raced to the top of the Conference, in what was his first real taste of professional football.  I think he was more than just ok.

Sure, he tailed off a little during that barren run but there isn't one player who didn't.  It was completely a wheels off case.

I wouldn't take anything from his Oldham spell.  Basket case club last season, terrible environment for any player to go to.  Especially one who's trying to learn his trade.  Darren Moore mentions about players going to the right clubs, I think that's a slight admission of fault in their approach last year when they sent Hunt to Oldham when he could have come back here.

His status at Wednesday is an odd one.  Still got a full year to run on his current contract, having signed a new 18 month deal in January, but at 22 can he still be classed as one for the future there?  This season he's had brief cameo's from the bench in League Cup games, coming on when the games were already run.   He's played 8 minutes for them in the league in the last 18 months, of course he's spent large parts of that on loan but I'd expect him to making a bigger impression on their first team now if they view him as someone for the future.

I would fancy us chancing getting him on a permanent deal here.

Quoted from ska face

Aside from Morris you have Clifton, Green and Holohan - none of which can pass even remotely as well as Hunt. Hurst has said after almost every match that we need to move the ball better/quicker and look after it in possession. Absolutely insane to suggest Hunt isn’t a step up on what we have, even just as another option. One decent half against a team who let us have the ball and suddenly we’re worldbeaters!

Agreed, Hunt is built like a sparrow but has the ability to make really incisive forward passes. We've got 3 in there so he would have a free reign to cause total chaos with the ball.

He was definitely the best taker of set-pieces that we've had for a while.

He was excellent when we were on the front foot. Thought he really dictated the pace of play and drove us forward. Hardly a surprise that as a very young lad he then struggled when the team as a whole did. I think he'd be an excellent addition and compliment to what we have.

Quoted from Les Brechin

He was definitely the best taker of set-pieces that we've had for a while.

With him and Glennon in the same team we'd have some great set piece options.

Altho i think a striker is our priority i think hunt is class & if we can sign him i'd say yes please

You’d have to be on glue to not think Hunt would be a good signing. His spell at Oldham is hardly something you can truly judge him on given the state of the club.

He was excellent here and whilst he went off the boil, so did everyone else and something clearly happened at the club.

I’d have him back in a heart beat.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

With Doigy on interview duty today I'm guessing Hurst is too busy speaking to potential new signings.

Can I be the first to say (within the next 6 days)

INCOMING

Wouldn't be surprised to see a 5 o clock Friday revelation from the club later.

Hunt’s form dropped at the time of the Sears incident as did the form of others. I’d have him back without a shadow of doubt.

Can’t see Kayode happening - https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/rotherham-united-manager-paul-warne-reveals-a-key-issue-hindering-transfer-activity-across-the-efl-3818903

Wearne says he wants a forward in but unlikely given the reluctance of clubs further up to let players go out. Also says he’s got good League 1 clubs trying to get hold of players not in his first team, imagine Kayode would be up there given his decent L2 record.

I have come to terms with this and accepted the situation. I am calm.

Interestingly (probably not even a little bit), I was reading something earlier about Middlesbrough expecting a few loans to go out from their Under 21 set-up ahead of the window.  Which is something I've not seen from a lot of clubs, probably for the reasons cited by Paul Warne.

Now I'm sure we'll be one of many, many clubs who have expressed an interest in what they've got to offer.

After the sale of Rumarn Burrell* to 'Boro in 2019 I always expected some sort of loan to come our way as part of it, perhaps that's just hopeful thinking.  Equally so, thought we might have had something from Watford or Leicester from the sales of Pollock and Grist respectively.

*When double checking what year it was we sold him, noticed he signed with Falkirk in the summer.  Only saw a little bit of him but he looked to have a lot going for him, certainly more than the Scottish third-tier!

Sheffield Weds manager Darren Moore was asked about the rumour today:

"Not at the moment. There are six days of the window to go. It is just a rumour. I won't discount it because there are six days to go of the window."

https://t.co/IsCQmcYSyD

https://twitter.com/humbersidesport/status/1563190018838896640?s=21&t=9z95rYWQeFB9z7AiWuyoVQ

Quoted from Surrey97

https://twitter.com/humbersidesport/status/1563190018838896640?s=21&t=9z95rYWQeFB9z7AiWuyoVQ

The table never lies.

Quoted from Surrey97

https://twitter.com/humbersidesport/status/1563190018838896640?s=21&t=9z95rYWQeFB9z7AiWuyoVQ

Sounds like Wednesday could be holding out for us to cover all of the cost again?

If he does come back we need the player we had the first few game and not the last few.
What went wrong for him at the back end of his loan??

Quoted from TAGG

If he does come back we need the player we had the first few game and not the last few.
What went wrong for him at the back end of his loan??

The end of his loan coincided with that middle of the season excrement streak of games we had, the whole team was playing crap at that point.

As much as Hunt is a class act, do we need another midfielder, really?..on loan he'll be expected to be playing games, who drops out?..I'd rather have our own players in there than a loan player and at the moment our midfield is pretty strong imo.

I would be happy with him on loan so long as there are no financial clauses that compel us to play him ( this if he plays Sheffield wed py his wages, if he doesn't we do crap that supposedly happens). Needs to be a competitive member of the squad

If the deal is right defitnely have him back.

If it meant dropping one of the 3 at the moment then no thanks, they have been brilliant and are our own.

Also no if it takes out of the budget and of striker.

Apart from that get him back he can be a cracking little player no doubt.

I sometimes wonder whether fans appreciate that players do not play well every game and will go through periods of mediocrity or worse are just crap. We definitely require more attacking prowess in our midfield and Hunt could help fill the gap left by McAtee and put that with a new number 9, or Orsi & Pebble, and we might start creating and converting more chances.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

As much as Hunt is a class act, do we need another midfielder, really?..on loan he'll be expected to be playing games, who drops out?..I'd rather have our own players in there than a loan player and at the moment our midfield is pretty strong imo.

Ok, might as well send Smith back to Hull in that case then.

All well & good the midfield being “pretty strong” at the moment but one injury to Morris, Green or Holohan & suddenly you’re struggling and, after Wednesday, you can’t bring anyone else in until January.

I’d have Hunt in over Holohan personally, I think he’s got great vision & an ability to play through the lines that we’re missing at the moment. Morris is a decent passer but plays too deep in this system to really offer any meaningful ‘killer passes’ if you like. He only really gets the attacking side of the centre circle when the opposition are almost all camped in their defensive third, and his options are then moving the ball from flank to flank.

Hunt was best when linking up with McAtee, or finding Taylor’s feet with Bapaga and McAtee getting beyond or picking up layoffs. When the options in front of him dried up, he was less effective.

Hunt would give us something we need in the midfield as somebody who has a good pass on him and can take set pieces. He was excellent for us gaining goals from corners and can actually find passes with a decent amount of accuracy.

Though we still need a decent striker who can actually score goals and be threatening.

Quoted from ska face

I’d have Hunt in over Holohan personally

Really? Think Holohan has been one of our best players so far this season. Wouldn't have had him in my team before the season started, but think he's really stepped up to the mark and is the main driving force from midfield. Wouldn't mind Hunt for Green though based on what I've seen so far.

If we have injuries to midfielders we might need Hunt.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Really? Think Holohan has been one of our best players so far this season. Wouldn't have had him in my team before the season started, but think he's really stepped up to the mark and is the main driving force from midfield. Wouldn't mind Hunt for Green though based on what I've seen so far.

I agree with ska. I'd also have Hunt over Holahan but not in place of Green, who is a different type of player.

Some people seem to think that if you've got 4 or 5 decent central midfield players you won't need any more all season. It's almost as if injuries, suspensions, and loss of form just don't happen at Grimsby Town!

From what I remember Hunt played as a "deep-lying playmaker": a holding midfielder who wants to dictate the play by receiving the ball from defence and playing it beyond the opposing midfield, so he would likely be an alternative or back-up to Morris. He would be useful as I think we could use some depth in that area, but do we want to use a loan spot up for that position when we're more in need of a forward or two? We already have four loanees if you count McAtee, with a maximum of five allowed in the matchday squad.

Quoted from TonySmith

Some people seem to think that if you've got 4 or 5 decent central midfield players you won't need any more all season. It's almost as if injuries, suspensions, and loss of form just don't happen at Grimsby Town!

I was watching a vlog from a Grimsby fan after Fox signed for Northampton and he said "I think transfer wise we only need one player signing and that's a CM" so he was happy to go through a full season with just 18 players, one of them being Scannell who isn't fit and the 3 or 4 of them being youths who has about 1 game between them!

It's like when we sign a player and people are posting with "I don't know why we are signing a CB first when we need this position aswell" it's almost as so that if we sign a CB we then can't sign any other position!

Baffling

Quoted from Mariner93er

Really? Think Holohan has been one of our best players so far this season. Wouldn't have had him in my team before the season started, but think he's really stepped up to the mark and is the main driving force from midfield. Wouldn't mind Hunt for Green though based on what I've seen so far.

Green is the type of player we’ve been missing for years. The enforcer. Hunt is completely different. There should be room in the squad for both.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Green is the type of player we’ve been missing for years[b][/b]. The enforcer. Hunt is completely different. There should be room in the squad for both.

Agree, I think he'll be a BP favourite, hopefully for years, because we love players like that. PH has done great business in midfield - I can't recall when we had 4 players like Holohan, Morris, Green and Clifton on permanent contracts, Maher can also play in front of the back 4. Adding Hunt to that would give us a really strong spine.

I liked Hunt first time around and I think he’d be a good signing for anyone in League Two. If he were to come back though I only see him as competition to where Morris is playing at the minute and he’s playing that role well. I don’t think he has the passing range of Hunt but other than that he’s solid.

It would be madness to drop Holohan for Hunt. He’s playing his best football now since joining. He gets forward, pinches the ball and carries it more than we saw Hunt do last time.

Green has stood out least in the midfield three so far but he has still done ok. He’s the strong and aggressive player to compliment the other two.

I would love to sign Hunt and it sounds like there’s something to it. I’m not sure how it will work in terms of keeping players happy but I guess that’s not for me to worry about.

When McAtee comes back he’ll be straight in the side meaning even less places available in there.

IMO if we are going to change the midfield up, it should be with a very attacking player who plays higher up than anyone we’ve got fit and available right now.

Quoted from Limerick Mariner

Agree, I think he'll be a BP favourite, hopefully for years, because we love players like that. PH has done great business in midfield - I can't recall when we had 4 players like Holohan, Morris, Green and Clifton on permanent contracts, Maher can also play in front of the back 4. Adding Hunt to that would give us a really strong spine.

Are you related to Harry Clifton?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Green is the type of player we’ve been missing for years. The enforcer. Hunt is completely different. There should be room in the squad for both.

Agree completely, especially if we play 5 across the middle which could happen when Maher is fit..

Josh Kayode going to a League One club https://twitter.com/paulm_davis/status/1563567267257802754?s=21&t=GJO85gJlzuFpumpAasjyFQ

Quoted from davmariner

Josh Kayode going to a League One club https://twitter.com/paulm_davis/status/1563567267257802754?s=21&t=GJO85gJlzuFpumpAasjyFQ

wonder if that's who Hurst was referring to when he said a target signing was going to a team higher up the pyramid

Interesting Hurst said post match he’s preparing to be at the club very late on Thursday. Goes to show clubs lower down the league are waiting for that movement higher up.

I’m sure he’ll pull a couple out the bag though.

It pays to wait sometimes, never know who’s going to be free later this week. Like the fact he won’t just bring in the wrong player and at the moment their attitude probably just as important. We have an honest team full of people that will work hard, don’t want to bring in someone as a panic and upset that.

A lot of that is dependant on where you are as a club though - a bad start the importance of attitude might have had to take a little bit of a back seat as our weighed by necessity.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Interesting Hurst said post match he’s preparing to be at the club very late on Thursday. Goes to show clubs lower down the league are waiting for that movement higher up.

I’m sure he’ll pull a couple out the bag though.

It pays to wait sometimes, never know who’s going to be free later this week. Like the fact he won’t just bring in the wrong player and at the moment their attitude probably just as important. We have an honest team full of people that will work hard, don’t want to bring in someone as a panic and upset that.

A lot of that is dependant on where you are as a club though - a bad start the importance of attitude might have had to take a little bit of a back seat as our weighed by necessity.

Situations often change midway through deadline day. Once one moves at the top, it all sorts itself out further down the pyramid. I’m still expecting 4 new signings this week and 2 of them to be players who he’s wanted all summer and to make our side stronger, if he didn’t still harbour hopes of signing them, we’d have likely moved on to lower hanging fruit.

Has Hurst ever gotten a player from Rotherham .People are always saying about his good relations there .But I cannot remember 1 decent player Hurst has ever brought from Rotherham .Just a question

Quoted from Norseman

Has Hurst ever gotten a player from Rotherham .People are always saying about his good relations there .But I cannot remember 1 decent player Hurst has ever brought from Rotherham .Just a question

Debatable as to whether or not he was ‘decent’, but Julien Lamy for one.

Nicky Walker signed from Rotherham, he never played for us but be still come from Rotherham

I know he gets on with the manager at Rotherham, but their head of recruitment is Shouty - so maybe that's a problem.

Quoted from Norseman

Has Hurst ever gotten a player from Rotherham .People are always saying about his good relations there .But I cannot remember 1 decent player Hurst has ever brought from Rotherham .Just a question

Danny Collins

Quoted from Norseman

Has Hurst ever gotten a player from Rotherham .People are always saying about his good relations there .But I cannot remember 1 decent player Hurst has ever brought from Rotherham .Just a question

Julien Lamy was from Rotherham - albeit a free agent.

Jack Diamond has signed for the Gimps for the rest of the season. Puts that potential signing to bed

Surely someone (not us) has to take a punt on Tshimanga?

25 in 30 last year, probably would’ve hit 40 without the injury. 2 in 4 this year (1 start), 21 & 19 the previous few seasons. Chesterfield must be after a couple of mil for him, unreal strike rate.

Quoted from ska face

Surely someone (not us) has to take a punt on Tshimanga?

25 in 30 last year, probably would’ve hit 40 without the injury. 2 in 4 this year (1 start), 21 & 19 the previous few seasons. Chesterfield must be after a couple of mil for him, unreal strike rate.

Surprised Peterborough haven’t jumped in tbh. They normally do. Someone should.

The next 72 hours will be a testing time for our patience. Hurst wants to sign Hunt and Hurst also said earlier that he wants a striker and keeper.

He's obviously keen on somebody as he said he would be willing to stay at his desk till midnight Thursday. We are at the lower end of the league pyramid so I suppose it's waiting and see who is free after those above us have done their business.

Quoted from ska face

Surely someone (not us) has to take a punt on Tshimanga?

25 in 30 last year, probably would’ve hit 40 without the injury. 2 in 4 this year (1 start), 21 & 19 the previous few seasons. Chesterfield must be after a couple of mil for him, unreal strike rate.

Right now I think what Chesterfield want is probably seen as a bit too much after his injury last season. If he's proven that he's over that with a consistent run of games and goals by January, surely someone takes a punt?

Quoted from DB

The next 72 hours will be a testing time for our patience. Hurst wants to sign Hunt and Hurst also said earlier that he wants a striker and keeper.

He's obviously keen on somebody as he said he would be willing to stay at his desk till midnight Thursday. We are at the lower end of the league pyramid so I suppose it's waiting and see who is free after those above us have done their business.

Yes, little Grimsby should know their place ! Lets wait until all the big dogs have eaten and see what scraps are left !!!!!

What a load of balderdash, if you think like a small club you will always remain one !

Quoted from Sir Matt Tease

Yes, little Grimsby should know their place ! Lets wait until all the big dogs have eaten and see what scraps are left !!!!!

What a load of balderdash, if you think like a small club you will always remain one !

Or maybe we have an ambitious target that is dependant on someone coming in at that club?

We know we are in for Hunt, you would assume a keeper comes in (Dean Henderson arrived on deadline day) and then there are probably 2 attacking signings to come in.

Quoted from Sir Matt Tease

Yes, little Grimsby should know their place ! Lets wait until all the big dogs have eaten and see what scraps are left !!!!!

What a load of balderdash, if you think like a small club you will always remain one !

That's not how things work in real life. Wishing you had a large infrastructure, top training facilities, a desirable part of the country and a lot of funds does not make it so. We punched above our weight for years with some local lads and unfashionable hard working players but that doesn't make us a big club. I can't think of a time we were signing the top strikers or best players in the league until NL level and even then once we got relegated back in we had clubs with endless funds and better facilities around us beating us to top strikers and marquee signings.

Quoted from ska face

Surely someone (not us) has to take a punt on Tshimanga?

25 in 30 last year, probably would’ve hit 40 without the injury. 2 in 4 this year (1 start), 21 & 19 the previous few seasons. Chesterfield must be after a couple of mil for him, unreal strike rate.

Too old. He's 25. No one is going to spend a 7-figure sum on him. Too little time to develop him and expect to recoup the fee and make a profit by selling him on. He's only a year younger than Ivan Toney for example. When Ivan Toney was that age he was going into the PL with Brentford. For any club to invest a big fee for Tshimanga they'd be looking to do what Peterborough did with Toney and make a big profit off him. Unfortunately it's too late for him to be anything other than a solid lower league striker.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Too old. He's 25. No one is going to spend a 7-figure sum on him. Too little time to develop him and expect to recoup the fee and make a profit by selling him on. He's only a year younger than Ivan Toney for example. When Ivan Toney was that age he was going into the PL with Brentford. For any club to invest a big fee for Tshimanga they'd be looking to do what Peterborough did with Toney and make a big profit off him. Unfortunately it's too late for him to be anything other than a solid lower league striker.

Jamie Vardy was 25 when he signed for Leicester….
BITD Tony Book turned professional when he was 30, signed for Man City aged 32 and went on to win player of the year in his first season and played over 250 games for City. There’s never a hard and fast rule about value /age.

Returning to the topic of dodgy/unsubstantiated rumours, heard from someone I work with that’s an Orient fan that we’ve shown an interest in their big target man who is not getting much of a look-in recently. They’re unlikely to want to let him go though.

Maybe the NL is where PH is looking at players. There’s a few decent forwards, as well as tshimanga. Junior morias, Jordan slew, Joan Luque and of course Andrew Dallas to name a few

Orient have a striker called Sonny Fish. Could fit in well with Town

Quoted from Sir Matt Tease

Yes, little Grimsby should know their place ! Lets wait until all the big dogs have eaten and see what scraps are left !!!!!

What a load of balderdash, if you think like a small club you will always remain one !

It has nothing to do with thinking we are a small club etc. If you'd care to read some of my posts you would see that I am firmly of the opinion that we have the potential to be a Championship club, eventually.

At the moment we do not have large amounts of cash to improve BP or build a new stadium; likewise, we can only bring in players within those same cash constraints, so we have to wait and see who is available for what we can offer.

Do not forget that to the Halifax fans we are now the big fish in L2 taking their players.

Quoted from tanga_the_indestructible

Jamie Vardy was 25 when he signed for Leicester….
BITD Tony Book turned professional when he was 30, signed for Man City aged 32 and went on to win player of the year in his first season and played over 250 games for City. There’s never a hard and fast rule about value /age.

Football has moved on in 10 years.

And also Vardy was an obvious raw talent who worked his way up non-league. His explosive acceleration and pace were as important as his goal scoring record. He was unique. He was a safe bet. He would always make some sort of an impact by virtue of his speed.

Tshimanga has already failed at EFL level once and ended up at non-league. He even failed at Boston when first dropping into the semi-pro game. He’s not a unique talent like Vardy. He’s just a NL goalscorer. Whereas Vardy had taken to every new step he played at, Tshimanga has a couple of miserable failures on his CV.

L1 & L2 clubs won’t be able to afford to pay the fee Chesterfield would want and Championship clubs would be unwilling to.

He’ll end up in the EFL either by winning promotion with Chesterfield or on a free transfer when his contract expires in summer 2024. But either way he’ll not get past bottom half L1 or L2 level.

Tshimanga gets 25 goals a season in a decent L1/2 team. Indisputable facts. I will not be challenged on this.

Quoted from ska face

Tshimanga gets 25 goals a season in a decent L1/2 team. Indisputable facts. I will not be challenged on this.

*unless he gets crocked again.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Too old. He's 25. No one is going to spend a 7-figure sum on him. Too little time to develop him and expect to recoup the fee and make a profit by selling him on. He's only a year younger than Ivan Toney for example. When Ivan Toney was that age he was going into the PL with Brentford. For any club to invest a big fee for Tshimanga they'd be looking to do what Peterborough did with Toney and make a big profit off him. Unfortunately it's too late for him to be anything other than a solid lower league striker.

2 words; Ian. Wright.

Quoted from davmariner

Returning to the topic of dodgy/unsubstantiated rumours, heard from someone I work with that’s an Orient fan that we’ve shown an interest in their big target man who is not getting much of a look-in recently. They’re unlikely to want to let him go though.

Harry Smith maybe?!
6ft 5 Decent goal scoring record but only been used as a late sub so far this season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Smith_(footballer,_born_1995)

Quoted from Mariner56

Harry Smith maybe?!
6ft 5 Decent goal scoring record but only been used as a late sub so far this season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Smith_(footballer,_born_1995)

That was Clapton Orient

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Smith_(Scottish_footballer)

Orient have a current player called Harry smith

Quoted from Lost in Lincoln

2 words; Ian. Wright.

It’s not 1986. It’s 2022. There are no hidden gems like Ian Wright anymore. All the big clubs have an in-depth knowledge on all young prospects in their area and nationally for the best organised clubs. The fact that Tshimanga did brilliant at Oxford City and one of the top clubs who hoover up young talent to develop and sell on is Oxford United and they didn’t think he was worth a punt tells you everything. And back then he was at an age when Oxford United could have expected a return. He’s too old now. That’s modern football.

Quoted from tanga_the_indestructible

Jamie Vardy was 25 when he signed for Leicester….
BITD Tony Book turned professional when he was 30, signed for Man City aged 32 and went on to win player of the year in his first season and played over 250 games for City. There’s never a hard and fast rule about value /age.

Jamie Vardy would have got a lot further in a lot quicker time, had it not have been for his poor attitude as a young footballer. It is well documented that he was a troublesome character around football clubs, and that it took him a long time to grow up.

Had Vardy not had behaviour issues as a youngster, he would have ended up being a football mega star. But hey it didn't turn our too badly for him in the end did it.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

It’s not 1986. It’s 2022. There are no hidden gems like Ian Wright anymore. All the big clubs have an in-depth knowledge on all young prospects in their area and nationally for the best organised clubs. The fact that Tshimanga did brilliant at Oxford City and one of the top clubs who hoover up young talent to develop and sell on is Oxford United and they didn’t think he was worth a punt tells you everything. And back then he was at an age when Oxford United could have expected a return. He’s too old now. That’s modern football.

No it isn't whatsoever. If a player is good enough for a team to improve it they will pay it.

You’d imagine that if Tshimanga continues from where he left off last season, then a likely time for someone to come in for him will be January or next summer when he has 18 months / 1 year left on his contract.

Right now, with two years to go, you’d think it would take close to 7 figures to tempt Chesterfield, something few are likely to have the confidence to shell out given his recent injury. 15 - 20 goals by Christmas and that may change however.

Not for Town, obviously.

With the amount of scoring chances being made, Town need someone who feeds off good crosses and can poach six yard box chances.

Can a strong youngster like Pepple quickly grow into that role, or is there a need to find 2 more strikers from a slightly lower league level who may not be tbe swiftest but know where the net is?

The last long term player of that ilk would be James Coppinger, who kept getting contracts by using his savvy for good positioning combined with continued fitness up to around 40 years old. Higher up, the likes of Kevin Phillips in the same mould.

We do need to sign someone with a reasonable record if possible and also hope that the returning players can click into form quickly.

I would guess that Hurst's phone is molten hot this week and we have surprises in store later this month end.

No point in guessing, as he hardly ever shows his hand until ink has dried.

I don't expect a Bogle, Amond, or Connell style signing...... but surprises do happen with Hurst !!

Quoted from acko338

With the amount of scoring chances being made, Town need someone who feeds off good crosses and can poach six yard box chances.

Can a strong youngster like Pepple quickly grow into that role, or is there a need to find 2 more strikers from a slightly lower league level who may not be tbe swiftest but know where the net is?

The last long term player of that ilk would be James Coppinger, who kept getting contracts by using his savvy for good positioning combined with continued fitness up to around 40 years old. Higher up, the likes of Kevin Phillips in the same mould.

We do need to sign someone with a reasonable record if possible and also hope that the returning players can click into form quickly.

I would guess that Hurst's phone is molten hot this week and we have surprises in store later this month end.

No point in guessing, as he hardly ever shows his hand until ink has dried.

I don't expect a Bogle, Amond, or Connell style signing...... but surprises do happen with Hurst !!

His pre-Derby interview suggests any likely incoming striker would be a loan deal, but invariably you can never read too much into his comments. An interesting couple of days ahead, for sure.

Quoted from acko338

With the amount of scoring chances being made, Town need someone who feeds off good crosses and can poach six yard box chances.

Might already be here. Orsi looked very good when he came on on Saturday and he had a scoring record on a par with Tshimanga a couple of seasons back.

Quoted from Poojah

His pre-Derby interview suggests any likely incoming striker would be a loan deal, but invariably you can never read too much into his comments. An interesting couple of days ahead, for sure.

Definitely the inference, but depends what happens higher up. Can imagine a lot of players may become available that weren't expecting to be on Thursday.

Quoted from RonMariner

Might already be here. Orsi looked very good when he came on on Saturday and he had a scoring record on a par with Tshimanga a couple of seasons back.

This.

According to his Derby Pre match he has a striker ' In Mind', with 2 other options if it doesn't work out. He wants to sign someone to fit in with the team and not somebody with ample ability but wouldn't fit in.

As for Derby Orsi will play, from the start or from the bench and Cropper is back in the squad. He wants to win the game and progress to the next stage.

Quoted from DB

Cropper is back in the squad.

Cropper did his hamstring in the Forest game. That's usually three weeks at least, isn't it? Otherwise, I agree, it will be a reasonably strong team with fringe/returning players getting a run out at some point.

Quoted from MarinerDevil

Cropper did his hamstring in the Forest game. That's usually three weeks at least, isn't it? Otherwise, I agree, it will be a reasonably strong team with fringe/returning players getting a run out at some point.

Please don't shoot the messenger. Just quoting what Hurst told Matt Dean yesterday.

Quoted from DB

Please don't shoot the messenger. Just quoting what Hurst told Matt Dean yesterday.

No sweat, I haven't been able to listen to Hurst's interview yet so it's probably me that's wrong. Good to see that Cropper has recovered quickly.

Quoted from Mariner56

Harry Smith maybe?!
6ft 5 Decent goal scoring record but only been used as a late sub so far this season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Smith_(footballer,_born_1995)

Certainly fits the profile of what Hurst is looking for.

Quoted from GtfcGarner

No it isn't whatsoever. If a player is good enough for a team to improve it they will pay it.

If you hadn't noticed the transfer fee is all but dead below the Championship. Who exactly is going to spend big money on signing a striker who failed at EFL level previously and is at an age when a resale profit is all but impossible?

If he was that good a prospect or worth a punt then somebody in the EFL would have bought him last summer. They didn't. They aren't going to buy him now a year older and for 3 or 4 times the price he was last season.

Quoted from Surrey97

Certainly fits the profile of what Hurst is looking for.

Yep, 15 goals in all competitions for Orient last season (13 of them in the league) and he’s fúcking massive. Would make us an interesting proposition at set pieces (and Cropper’s long throws) with the known threat that Waterfall poses as well as the mooted incoming of Hunt.

Reminds me a little of Stephen Merchant, too. What’s not to like?

https://youtu.be/HZOq3e7arXo
https://youtu.be/BgRb4q7MbGc
https://youtu.be/0P8bIARxOww

I recollect he came on late in the 2nd half against Town (after recovering from injury in pre-season). Certainly threw his weight about and unsettled our defence. But we'd run out of steam by then and defeat was a foregone conclusion with Orient's confidence flying high after the second goal.

Who’s that lad at Dagenham he can’t stop scoring is it junior someone

Be a good signing, looks surprisingly mobile for a big fornicator.

Must be something in it if Surrey97 is flirting with it.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

It’s not 1986. It’s 2022. There are no hidden gems like Ian Wright anymore. All the big clubs have an in-depth knowledge on all young prospects in their area and nationally for the best organised clubs. The fact that Tshimanga did brilliant at Oxford City and one of the top clubs who hoover up young talent to develop and sell on is Oxford United and they didn’t think he was worth a punt tells you everything. And back then he was at an age when Oxford United could have expected a return. He’s too old now. That’s modern football.

Here's 2 more then; Jamie. Vardy

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Be a good signing, looks surprisingly mobile for a big fornicator.

Must be something in it if Surrey97 is flirting with it.

I don’t know anything about this one unfortunately. Just know he fits the profile of a target man who also has a half decent goal record at this level.

Orsi on Humberside pre match Derby … “what can we expect from you?” Orsi- “goals”

Lads confident hopefully he can be the missing ingredient

Quoted from Mendonca1995

Who’s that lad at Dagenham he can’t stop scoring is it junior someone

Morias, not to be confused with our dynamite signing Morais.

Also in his pre-match interview he said

"and having spoken to academy managers at the Premier League clubs"

So maybe he is seeking a rough diamond or two who just want to impress

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Also in his pre-match interview he said

"and having spoken to academy managers at the Premier League clubs"

So maybe he is seeking a rough diamond or two who just want to impress

Wayne Burnett is tottenhams u23 manager

(Guessing you already know that though! 😉)

Quoted from Wiley2405

Orsi on Humberside pre match Derby … “what can we expect from you?” Orsi- “goals”

Lads confident hopefully he can be the missing ingredient

Love it.

Hunt started for Wednesday tonight. Not sure that means he's not coming but think it makes it a little less likely at least.

said there's no truth in the Sam Cosgrove rumour

did anyone actually know there was a Sam Cosgrove rumour? ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from forza ivano

said there's no truth in the Sam Cosgrove rumour

did anyone actually know there was a Sam Cosgrove rumour? ;D ;D ;D

Matt Dean said he’d seen fan speculation… can’t say I’ve ever heard the name personally..

Quoted from forza ivano

said there's no truth in the Sam Cosgrove rumour

did anyone actually know there was a Sam Cosgrove rumour? ;D ;D ;D

Was the first I'd heard of it too! Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere!

Interesting that Hurst came across as a bit p1ssy in his interview with Matt Dean for not a particularly controversial question. Perhaps a bit of frustration at how the last couple of days has panned out in the transfer market/at buffoon agents?

Quoted from davmariner

Interesting that Hurst came across as a bit p1ssy in his interview with Matt Dean for not a particularly controversial question. Perhaps a bit of frustration at how the last couple of days has panned out in the transfer market/at buffoon agents?

I thought it was his most negative interview for some time. The next two days might tell us why.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Matt Dean said he’d seen fan speculation… can’t say I’ve ever heard the name personally..

I like Matt Dean but he does regularly cloak his questions in what “fans are saying”. Not head anyone mention Cosgrove at all.

Quoted from davmariner

Interesting that Hurst came across as a bit p1ssy in his interview with Matt Dean for not a particularly controversial question. Perhaps a bit of frustration at how the last couple of days has panned out in the transfer market/at buffoon agents?

He should be pissy if Dean has just exposed his main target . Let's face it his name hasn't featured any where at all

Quoted from gtfc98

Hunt started for Wednesday tonight. Not sure that means he's not coming but think it makes it a little less likely at least.

Still expect Hunt to sign

Quoted from It Bites

He should be pissy if Dean has just exposed his main target . Let's face it his name hasn't featured any where at all

He wasn’t pissy about that question, which came at the end of the interview. He got a little bit short with Dean for asking why he felt the need to take Wearne off at half-time, on the back of a few delving questions lately about the performances of individuals (JMD in particular).

As for Cosgrove, it’s interesting in so much that it’s certainly not been mooted by Town fans online anywhere I’ve seen, so you do wonder where it’s come from. As Hurst alludes to in his interview however Plymouth are strongly linked so you’d imagine that would be a more likely destination if true.

Interesting record though. Had done next to nothing while at Carlisle, including on loan in non-league, before signing for Aberdeen where he was absolutely on fire over 2 full seasons in the SPL. Then hasn’t done much once again since signing for Birmingham, including loans at Shrewsbury and Wimbledon.

Perhaps he just likes playing at cold grounds by the sea…

Quoted from Poojah

He wasn’t pissy about that question, which came at the end of the interview. He got a little bit short with Dean for asking why he felt the need to take Wearne off at half-time, on the back of a few delving questions lately about the performances of individuals (JMD in particular).

As for Cosgrove, it’s interesting in so much that it’s certainly not been mooted by Town fans online anywhere I’ve seen, so you do wonder where it’s come from. As Hurst alludes to in his interview however Plymouth are strongly linked so you’d imagine that would be a more likely destination if true.

Interesting record though. Had done next to nothing while at Carlisle, including on loan in non-league, before signing for Aberdeen where he was absolutely on fire over 2 full seasons in the SPL. Then hasn’t done much once again since signing for Birmingham, including loans at Shrewsbury and Wimbledon.

Perhaps he just likes playing at cold grounds by the sea…

The only thing that perhaps might sway a move to here is that he's from Beverley. Clearly has ability, has featured this season in The Championship.

Quoted from Youngy

The only thing that perhaps might sway a move to here is that he's from Beverley. Clearly has ability, has featured this season in The Championship.

He did spent some on loan at North Ferriby, but Wiki states his family moved to Cheshire when he was a baby. Certainly doesn’t possess a Beverley accent.

Less than 38 hours to go…

I thought Hurst navigated the interview well. Matt Dean was trying to get him to be critical of individual players and a good manager doesn't do that in public.

Private jet just landed at Humberside Airport from Madrid.

What do you reckon?

Thibaut Courtois as back up to Max Crocombe?

Luka Modric* as a bench hogger?

Benzema as an impact sub?

*Too old. Legs have gone

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Private jet just landed at Humberside Airport from Madrid.

What do you reckon?

Thibaut Courtois as back up to Max Crocombe?

Luka Modric* as a bench hogger?

Benzema as an impact sub?

*Too old. Legs have gone

There’s one from Paris later so maybe we’re in for neymar or mbappe.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

Private jet just landed at Humberside Airport from Madrid.

What do you reckon?

Thibaut Courtois as back up to Max Crocombe?

Luka Modric* as a bench hogger?

Benzema as an impact sub?

*Too old. Legs have gone

Maybe Fabregas is still keen to join us after not closing the deal in the summer.

Quoted from RonMariner

Maybe Fabregas is still keen to join us after not closing the deal in the summer.

unfortunately he went to Como

Quoted from Lost in Lincoln

Here's 2 more then; Jamie. Vardy

Already been discussed on this thread why Tshimanga is not the next Jamie Vardy,

Transfer business rating 5/10

Quoted from ska face

I like Matt Dean but he does regularly cloak his questions in what “fans are saying”. Not head anyone mention Cosgrove at all.

Would love it if he revealed his true sources.

PH: Nope, nothing in that one Matt. Where did you hear that?
MD: It's actually come from *checks notes* WayneBurnettsJockstrap on The Fishy forum.

Not related to us us but a confirmed move today for a Div 2 striker. WBA have paid the £300K buy out clause for Salford striker Thomas-Asante. Aged 24 he has only 10 months left on his contract so in similar position to McAtee. (BBC Football).

They have little time to find a replacement and he won’t be playing against us.(He won’t be loaned back either).

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Not related to us us but a confirmed move today for a Div 2 striker. WBA have paid the £300K buy out clause for Salford striker Thomas-Asante. Aged 24 he has only 10 months left on his contract so in similar position to McAtee. (BBC Football).

They have little time to find a replacement and he won’t be playing against us.(He won’t be loaned back either).

That somewhat demonstrates how good the McAtee deal was. We’ve got similar, if not more, for a player who was non league last year and is back at us for the season.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

Not related to us us but a confirmed move today for a Div 2 striker. WBA have paid the £300K buy out clause for Salford striker Thomas-Asante. Aged 24 he has only 10 months left on his contract so in similar position to McAtee. (BBC Football).

They have little time to find a replacement and he won’t be playing against us.(He won’t be loaned back either).

Birmingham missed out on Asante it seems, which may reduce the chances of them letting Cosgrove go. Also on that front I hadn’t appreciated that they paid £2m for him just a year ago. Makes that one feel very unlikely, doesn’t it?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/sam-cosgrove-signs-birmingham-city-23417680.amp

Looks like Birmingham are now looking at Tshimanga, as are Wigan.
https://twitter.com/footballleaguew/status/1564918995999916034?s=21&t=VF0K8zIwn49pZEEyjVh93w

Clearly not listening to our resident transfer expert.

Quoted from Surrey97

Looks like Birmingham are now looking at Tshimanga, as are Wigan.
https://twitter.com/footballleaguew/status/1564918995999916034?s=21&t=VF0K8zIwn49pZEEyjVh93w

Can't be true, Golly told us all that nobody further up the pyramid will take a chance on him because he's 25 and had a couple of failures in his career.

For that reason alone, I hope they do.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Already been discussed on this thread why Tshimanga is not the next Jamie Vardy,

I didn't say he was.

Quoted from Poojah

Birmingham missed out on Asante it seems, which may reduce the chances of them letting Cosgrove go. Also on that front I hadn’t appreciated that they paid £2m for him just a year ago. Makes that one feel very unlikely, doesn’t it?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/sam-cosgrove-signs-birmingham-city-23417680.amp

If we sign Cosgrove, even on loan, we should be kissing Hurst's' feet, however unfortunately it is not realistic.

At this stage in the transfer window, I can really only see us bringing in a unproven youngster. Hopefully I'm proven wrong.

We don't know Hurst's budget, targets or even if he is interested, however I would of loved for us to take a punt on Dallas from Solihull or Rodrigues from Notts County.
Unfortunately I don't think either of them would happen either.

See what happens the next day.

I was told on Saturday that Tshimanga has a ridiculously low buy out fee in his contract, maybe even as low as £300,000.

Too late for a whip round?

Quoted from forza ivano

I was told on Saturday that Tshimanga has a ridiculously low buy out fee in his contract, maybe even as low as £300,000.

That is very surprising. I would have expected it to be much higher.

If that is the case it is well worth the likes of Birmingham taking a punt. That is chicken feed to them.

Quoted from forza ivano

I was told on Saturday that Tshimanga has a ridiculously low buy out fee in his contract, maybe even as low as £300,000.

We could never know for certain, but I cannot see that being true.... Especially as they were rumoured to paid £250k for him initially.

Plus at that value, I think bigger clubs would of bitten the bullet in January, when he had already hit 25 goals before his injury in February.

I wouldn't believe everything people tell you!

Quoted from forza ivano

I was told on Saturday that Tshimanga has a ridiculously low buy out fee in his contract, maybe even as low as £300,000.

If it’s the case, I’d say chesterfield supporters won’t be too amused

Quoted from Son of Cod

Would love it if he revealed his true sources.

PH: Nope, nothing in that one Matt. Where did you hear that?
MD: It's actually come from *checks notes* WayneBurnettsJockstrap on The Fishy forum.

Haha. Ill take all the plaudits if it happens but I just have 2 little problems with it

1) I havent got a clue who this Cosgrove is
2) See answer 1

Quoted from Corkyefes

We could never know for certain, but I cannot see that being true.... Especially as they were rumoured to paid £250k for him initially.

Plus at that value, I think bigger clubs would of bitten the bullet in January, when he had already hit 25 goals before his injury in February.

I wouldn't believe everything people tell you!

Could have had a clause in his contract if Chesterfield didn’t go up then that was his buyout clause?

Personally I would enquire about Joe Nuttall from Scunny and take a punt if possible.
Maybe Hurst has but who knows.

- Scored 1 in 3 for Scunny (6 goals in 18 starts).
- Decent age and location wouldn't be an issue.
- Probably wants to play higher.
- Proved he knows where the net is, after scoring 20 in 26 in the premier league 2 level.
- Scunny seem to be struggling for cash and currently have no manager to reject the deal (Swann may accept).

Plus the last one we got from them isn't too bad is he.

Quoted from Corkyefes

Personally I would enquire about Joe Nuttall from Scunny and take a punt if possible.
Maybe Hurst has but who knows.

- Scored 1 in 3 for Scunny (6 goals in 18 starts).
- Decent age and location wouldn't be an issue.
- Probably wants to play higher.
- Proved he knows where the net is, after scoring 20 in 26 in the premier league 2 level.
- Scunny seem to be struggling for cash and currently have no manager to reject the deal (Swann may accept).

Plus the last one we got from them isn't too bad is he.

Contract ends June 2023 too

I am sure Hurst will pull something out the bag even if its Hunt and AN Other. Certainly don't think it will be four which is what he originally wanted. I am sure despite our decent start and the positivity off the pitch it has been frustrating and dispiriting for the manager with what appears a lot of knock backs. First time I could sense in his post match interview a little weariness. We may have to brace ourselves for us to go with what we got and in that case he and the team will need our constant support because it looks like its not for the want of trying.

Can we still get out of contract players after tomorrow?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Can we still get out of contract players after tomorrow?

Yes, as long as their contracts either ended or were terminated today or earlier.

Believe a couple of national league clubs are looking at JMD. Think it may depend on who comes in tomorrow as to whether or not something happens there.

Quoted from Corkyefes

Personally I would enquire about Joe Nuttall from Scunny and take a punt if possible.
Maybe Hurst has but who knows.

- Scored 1 in 3 for Scunny (6 goals in 18 starts).
- Decent age and location wouldn't be an issue.
- Probably wants to play higher.
- Proved he knows where the net is, after scoring 20 in 26 in the premier league 2 level.
- Scunny seem to be struggling for cash and currently have no manager to reject the deal (Swann may accept).

Plus the last one we got from them isn't too bad is he.

No thanks I watched him the other day vs Halifax and he was awful, for his big size got bullied by the defenders touch was decent but never in a million years good enough for league 2 missed 3 one on ones in the game also

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Can we still get out of contract players after tomorrow?

I believe so, as long as they were released from their contract prior to the end of the window.

Quoted from Corkyefes

We could never know for certain, but I cannot see that being true.... Especially as they were rumoured to paid £250k for him initially.

Plus at that value, I think bigger clubs would of bitten the bullet in January, when he had already hit 25 goals before his injury in February.

I wouldn't believe everything people tell you!

I think they paid £125k upfront with the rest being ongoing add on’s (this is going from chesterfield fans rapt the time). So £300k still sounds low but it could be what him and his agent insisted on as part of the deal

Quoted from Posh Harry

I think they paid £125k upfront with the rest being ongoing add on’s (this is going from chesterfield fans rapt the time). So £300k still sounds low but it could be what him and his agent insisted on as part of the deal

For all we know they could have promised him promotion with a big pay rise, but as it never happened he could have had the clause in his contract that if Chesterfield didnt get promoted that he would be able to leave for a minimal amount

Quoted from Surrey97

Believe a couple of national league clubs are looking at JMD. Think it may depend on who comes in tomorrow as to whether or not something happens there.

On the one hand, would be a loss of ability and goal threat from the squad. On the other hand, if he's only going to be playing a bit-part role because he can't do what Hurst asks of his players, he'll be better off elsewhere with another team willing to work around his limitations. We'd be better off spending the money on the salary of a player trusted to start games when required to do so.

Quoted from WayneBurnettsJockstrap

For all we know they could have promised him promotion with a big pay rise, but as it never happened he could have had the clause in his contract that if Chesterfield didnt get promoted that he would be able to leave for a minimal amount

It could also be that he has already signed a new contract which gets rid of the low buy out clause according to other chessie fans. Mind you, they are an odd and touchy bunch of fans and I don’t believe a lot that comes out of their mouths.

Dave Chalinor has said there has been interest in Scott Quicley and could be sold tomorrow. Can definitely see Hurst being interested.

Quoted from Youngy

Dave Chalinor has said there has been interest in Scott Quicley and could be sold tomorrow. Can definitely see Hurst being interested.

Could we match his wages?

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Could we match his wages?

In a seller's market you have to whether its him or any sought after player if that is what Hurst wants.

From what I gather from fans of his previous clubs, Quigley isn’t much of target man despite his height. Not quite convinced that he’s on Hurst’s list.

I wouldn’t mind Quigley, he’s got a decent enough record and as a few have pointed out, we have a collection of okay strikers so he’d give us a good option.

I know it’s really popular to want a striker but in Orsi, Pepple and Taylor we have potential. I think we need to give two up top until McAtee comes in which would itself possible require another body up top. However if Hurst is going to stick to the current system we need a Number 10 as a matter of urgency, both for the here and now but also as a long term McAtee successor.

Quoted from davmariner

From what I gather from fans of his previous clubs, Quigley isn’t much of target man despite his height. Not quite convinced that he’s on Hurst’s list.

He was the best player on the pitch when we beat them last season. Gave Luke Waterfull the right runaround

Quoted from pontoonlew

I know it’s really popular to want a striker but in Orsi, Pepple and Taylor we have potential. I think we need to give two up top until McAtee comes in which would itself possible require another body up top. However if Hurst is going to stick to the current system we need a Number 10 as a matter of urgency, both for the here and now but also as a long term McAtee successor.

For me it’s fairly evident we’ve struggled without Taylor on the pitch so far as he’s the only one who can really play with his back to goal and link up play as he does.

Even if that definitive, free scoring number 9 remains elusive I still think we need someone vaguely in that Taylor mould as he’s not going to play every minute of every game. Mani and Abrahams won’t be remembered as ‘great’ Town strikers but they both played a substantial role in our promotion.

Quoted from headingly_mariner

He was the best player on the pitch when we beat them last season. Gave Luke Waterfull the right runaround

Yeah I mean I never said he’s a bad player, just not in the mould of a target man which is what it seems Hurst is looking for.

Quoted from pontoonlew

I wouldn’t mind Quigley, he’s got a decent enough record and as a few have pointed out, we have a collection of okay strikers so he’d give us a good option.

I know it’s really popular to want a striker but in Orsi, Pepple and Taylor we have potential. I think we need to give two up top until McAtee comes in which would itself possible require another body up top. However if Hurst is going to stick to the current system we need a Number 10 as a matter of urgency, both for the here and now but also as a long term McAtee successor.

I’m not sure Ryan Taylor would describe himself as ‘having potential’. We clearly play to a system that involves a link man rather than a goalscorer and Ryan isn’t of an age that he can play every game. I still think we need two more attacking options given the manager’s opinion on JMD.

I’d be over the moon if Quigly signed for us. He was the best striker I saw last season. His touch, the way he used his body, he was quick, two footed and took his goal well. There weren’t many, if any, strikers that Waterfall didn’t work out a way to deal with but he didn’t have a clue how to manage Quigly. I know this is L2 and therefore defenders are likely to be a bit better but Waterfall is still clearly a very capable L2 centre half. He’d have breathed a sigh of relief when Quigly was inexplicably sacrificed to fill in the position Sarcevic had vacated when he was dispatched. Unless we saw an exceptional game in among some mediocrity, I’m not sure what Stockport are doing flirting with offloading him. He certainly looked a better player than Wooton, who has never looked overly impressive to me.

Wouldn’t hold out much hope for Quigley

Quoted from Surrey97

Wouldn’t hold out much hope for Quigley

Rochdale?

Barrow if any i’d think

So.. deadline day is approaching. How many through the door ? Hurst wanted 4.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

So.. deadline day is approaching. How many through the door ? Hurst wanted 4.

You'll know in a little under 23 hrs.

I think I can stand the tension.

Quoted from LocalLadGTFC

So.. deadline day is approaching. How many through the door ? Hurst wanted 4.

He revised that down to probably two post Derby.

Looks like deadline day will fizzle out with us being 3 possibly 4 players short of a very good squad .Disappointed but we just have to suck it up and get behind the players we have

Heard we’ve previously shown an interest in Middlesbrough forward Josh Coburn. Seems unlikely to happen as he’s currently injured as well as having attracted a lot of loan interest.

Tyreik Wright who was mentioned earlier on in this thread has signed for Bradford

https://twitter.com/footyinsider247/status/1565242286354620416?s=21&t=KHx_Tam4zhEBg4IJedpuGw Would push Harry Smith further down the pecking order…

If we fail, or don’t even attempt to get Alex hunt from Wendy, Rotherham’s Northern Ireland under 21 player Kieran mcguckin would be a very worthwhile addition.

Cosgrove has gone on loan to Plymouth.

We ain't singing anyone today and if we did, it'll be a panick buy/Choice Z

Quoted from Grimsby2012

We ain't singing anyone today and if we did, it'll be a panick buy/Choice Z

Are you privy to negotiations?

The time to make that statement is at 11 0'clock tonight if you are correct.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

We ain't singing anyone today and if we did, it'll be a panick buy/Choice Z

seen some bizarre spellings on here over the years, but panic with a ck has blown my brain

Quoted from Grimsby2012

We ain't singing anyone today and if we did, it'll be a panick buy/Choice Z

Given that PH wasn’t in attendance at training at all and didn’t attend media commitments begs to differ.

Quoted from Hagrid

seen some bizarre spellings on here over the years, but panic with a ck has blown my brain

Would have thought he’d have had plenty of time to spell correctly given that he’s abstaining from ‘singing’ today.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

We ain't singing anyone today and if we did, it'll be a panick buy/Choice Z

When you see certain posters have posted you can expect the same old bollox and it's not worth reading!

Quoted from Grimsby2012

We ain't singing anyone today and if we did, it'll be a panick buy/Choice Z

Am not surprised. The fat ladies been busy over in caravan land with messrs Mr K Hill and Mr P Swann

Hurst NEVER panic buys
If he can't get who he wants that will be that and the squad will stay as is

Quoted from devs

Hurst NEVER panic buys
If he can't get who he wants that will be that and the squad will stay as is

A contrast to our old Bristolian friend.

Quoted from Poojah

Birmingham missed out on Asante it seems, which may reduce the chances of them letting Cosgrove go. Also on that front I hadn’t appreciated that they paid £2m for him just a year ago. Makes that one feel very unlikely, doesn’t it?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/sam-cosgrove-signs-birmingham-city-23417680.amp

Cosgrove just signed for Plymouth on loan.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Cosgrove just signed for Plymouth on loan.

Yeah, strange that it was even mooted really. Curious as to where Matt Dean got hold of it.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

We ain't singing anyone today and if we did, it'll be a panick buy/Choice Z

Hi John . Spelling still as bad as ever ....

Quoted from It Bites

Hi John . Spelling still as bad as ever ....

Not gonna lie, was clicking that expecting an "Inbound".

Not sure about anyone else in Ska’s League table but I’ve not even heard so much as a mumble in regards to any incomings

From the Owls forum just now, so i guess Alex may not be coming... "DC won’t even negotiate a cheap deal with Grimsby for A.Hunt , how much u reckon would take for him to even pick up phone about FDB or Byers "

Mikey O’Neill from Preston, rumoured from the same source that broke the McAtee story.

Apparently we have some interest in Mikey O' Neill from Preston so wonder if this a Plan B if the Hunt deal fails

Quoted from Mariner16

Apparently we have some interest in Mikey O' Neill from Preston so wonder if this a Plan B if the Hunt deal fails

18 years old, only game played was in EFL Cup.

Quoted from 123614

18 years old, only game played was in EFL Cup.

3 appearances in the Championship at the back end of last season. Seems highly rated.

Quoted from ska face

3 appearances in the Championship at the back end of last season. Seems highly rated.

Having delved further, "Biography
DATE OF BIRTH
08/06/2004

SIGNED
01/07/2020

COUNTRY
England

Mikey O’Neill enjoyed an outstanding 2021/22 campaign which culminated in him signing a professional deal, keeping him at Deepdale until 2024.

He scored 11 times in U19 matches, as well as grabbing many for the reserves in the Central League, which earnt him three senior appearances from the bench towards the end of the season.

O’Neill’s impressive technical skills and link-up play make him one of the most exciting prospects coming through the North End ranks.

Having already caught the eye of first team manager Ryan Lowe, the midfielder will be eager for more opportunities to impress in the senior squad during 2022/23.

Quoted from Hagrid

seen some bizarre spellings on here over the years, but panic with a ck has blown my brain

*Seen*

Sounds like the type of player we could do with to be fair

Quoted from FPVmariner

Would have thought he’d have had plenty of time to spell correctly given that he’s abstaining from ‘singing’ today.

*I would have*

Quoted from Teesknees

When you see certain posters have posted you can expect the same old bollox and it's not worth reading!

I'm glad you agree.

O'Neill looks promising, attacking mid, would definitely add creativity. I don't think he'd necessarily be coming in instead of Hunt either.

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1565352426537816064?s=20&t=z65G6oCmU5hqz6wEaSkAig

Town twitter definately teasing something

M for mikey?

Quoted from WHYWONTYOULETMESIGNUP

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1565352426537816064?s=20&t=z65G6oCmU5hqz6wEaSkAig

Town twitter definately teasing something

M for mikey?

Probs just M for Maher lol!

That means "West Side" on da street. But he's doing it upside down.

My guess a striker from West Sydney Wanderers.

Tshimanga about to sign for Birmingham,

The hysterical weirdos at chesterfield are about to have a meltdown

Quoted from Mariner16

Apparently we have some interest in Mikey O' Neill from Preston so wonder if this a Plan B if the Hunt deal fails

Done deal according to some on the PNE board.

And if anyone thinks this thread is bad, their rumours/transfers thread is just under 2000 pages long! Fúck updating a table for 2k pages of bullshît!

Mikey O,Neill has signed for us, as Ska says, on Preston forum, thats one done, just need others to follow before 11pm

Sounds like more of a McAtee type player so don't think this is instead of Hunt or a striker. Hopefully get a couple more through the door soon.

Cosgrove to Plymouth, Coburn to Bristol R. Every chance we were in for these two but they got offers higher up. Still plenty of time for something to happen.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Cosgrove to Plymouth, Coburn to Bristol R. Every chance we were in for these two but they got offers higher up. Still plenty of time for something to happen.

Cosgrove signed for Birmingham for £2m precisely a year ago. If we were in for him it was certainly ambitious to say the least. Maybe ambition has worked against us, who knows.

Heard we are talking with 3....

One done, one stumbling over a fee and the other wont be allowed to leave unless the club secure their target.

It could just be one in tonight but hopefully not.

Quoted from Corkyefes

Heard we are talking with 3....

One done, one stumbling over a fee and the other wont be allowed to leave unless the club secure their target.

It could just be one in tonight but hopefully not.

O’Neill, Hunt and ?

Quoted from out of town

Tshimanga about to sign for Birmingham,

The hysterical weirdos at chesterfield are about to have a meltdown

Tshimanga best hope Birmingham don't decide to randomly check a Grimsby Town forum before he signs that contract where a user claimed with some certainty that there is absolutely no chance of Tshimanga getting a move to a Championship club.

Quoted from Corkyefes

Heard we are talking with 3....

One done, one stumbling over a fee and the other wont be allowed to leave unless the club secure their target.

It could just be one in tonight but hopefully not.

O Neill Done, Hunt is stumbling, SW are being effing greedy. they arent gonna play hunt so just let him come play football....

Dont know who the other is

Quoted from Hagrid

O Neill Done, Hunt is stumbling, SW are being effing greedy. they arent gonna play hunt so just let him come play football....

Dont know who the other is

Allegedly we’ve offered £100k and Darren Moore wants, erm more

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Allegedly we’ve offered £100k and Darren Moore wants, erm more

It was above Darren Moore's head the other day and now it's back with him? It's a rare one that Hurst has spoken about, I think a deal will get done one way or another, even if it's a loan to begin with but I'm by no way in the know.

Quoted from Hagrid

O Neill Done, Hunt is stumbling, SW are being effing greedy. they arent gonna play hunt so just let him come play football....

Dont know who the other is

Quigley? Although Stockport fans think he’s off to Rochdale.

Would be surprised if we're not in for Quigley if he's available..

How sure are we the O Neil is done. Preston twitter :-

https://twitter.com/search?q=preston%20north%20end&f=live

Came from a good source Grimsby Live!

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/grimsby-town-pursuing-loan-move-7535868

"Sounds like Mikey O'Neill is joining Grimsby on loan.

Really hopeful for this guy, plays just off the striker and likes to get shots away, really calm and confident on the ball. Made a handful of appearances off the bench for us and looked totally unfazed."

From a PNE fan on TFF.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

It was above Darren Moore's head the other day and now it's back with him? It's a rare one that Hurst has spoken about, I think a deal will get done one way or another, even if it's a loan to begin with but I'm by no way in the know.

🤦🏻‍♂️ Apologies, chairman

It appears Darren Moore has lost his battle…

It's happening? I think Hunt on a permanent is exactly the sort of deal we should be looking for. No guarantees but might just be getting a diamond.

Quigley to Rochdale confirmed

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-grimsby-town-boss-makes-strong-claim-in-pursuit-of-owls-midfielder-3826954

Good signing for Rochdale, I think they might be able to hit a decent run at some point as they didn't look too bad against us.

Quoted from Mariner16

Quigley to Rochdale confirmed

Another victory for geography.

Yeah hopefully we get yet another midfielder in

Quoted from Poojah

Another victory for geography.

That’s a bit simplistic, it ultimately comes down to money.

They are contractors end of day similar to many on here. If someone was to pay me £300 a day to work out oh f humberside or £550 a day to work out of Norwich, I would follow the money regardless of location. Even more so in current climate.

This club needs to temper the sustainability shite and release the purse strings ever so slightly.

Quoted from Poojah

Another victory for geography.

Was really hoping we pulled this one off today gutted 😟

It’s been the topic of a few chats with a Wednesday fan that works in our derby office. Says that he watched their game on Tuesday and that the youngsters they played were on a hiding to nothing. Hunt has also ‘muscled up’ from what he can remember seeing of him

Quoted from male private Nale

That’s a bit simplistic, it ultimately comes down to money.

They are contractors end of day similar to many on here. If someone was to pay me £300 a day to work out oh f humberside or £550 a day to work out of Norwich, I would follow the money regardless of location. Even more so in current climate.

This club needs to temper the sustainability shite and release the purse strings ever so slightly.

Of course there becomes a point where money is a deciding factor, but if you have two options where one is geographically perfect and the other inconvenient, the amount you’d have to go over and above financially increases to a significant degree.

At this level, where contracts are short and generally not massive, geography makes a huge difference.

Quoted from male private Nale

That’s a bit simplistic, it ultimately comes down to money.

They are contractors end of day similar to many on here. If someone was to pay me £300 a day to work out oh f humberside or £550 a day to work out of Norwich, I would follow the money regardless of location. Even more so in current climate.

This club needs to temper the sustainability shite and release the purse strings ever so slightly.

When will these idiots learn? Look at Scunny!

Quoted from male private Nale

That’s a bit simplistic, it ultimately comes down to money.

They are contractors end of day similar to many on here. If someone was to pay me £300 a day to work out oh f humberside or £550 a day to work out of Norwich, I would follow the money regardless of location. Even more so in current climate.

This club needs to temper the sustainability shite and release the purse strings ever so slightly.

Less fuel
Less accomodation

If you're being paid those too then fair enough but it's not quite as simplistic as you make out.

Quoted from Poojah

Of course there becomes a point where money is a deciding factor, but if you have two options where one is geographically perfect and the other inconvenient, the amount you’d have to go over and above financially increases to a significant degree.

At this level, where contracts are short and generally not massive, geography makes a huge difference.

Equally, as has been stated by club and manager many times during the summer , strikers are like hens teeth. Therefore when one of this quality becomes available , is it not prudent to pay enough to counter any logistical benefit ? I would say most definitely as when will the next one come around ... instead he goes to a club rooted to bottom of table which has consistently been in doldrums for last few years.

Strikers are a rare commodity, so speculate to accumulate.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Less fuel
Less accomodation

If you're being paid those too then fair enough but it's not quite as simplistic as you make out.

That all comes down to contract negotiations , we have been told everyone wants a striker , so then make it attractive for them to choose us.

We was never in for Quigley

Quoted from Surrey97

We was never in for Quigley

What's the latest with who we are in for Surrey?

Quoted from male private Nale

That’s a bit simplistic, it ultimately comes down to money.

They are contractors end of day similar to many on here. If someone was to pay me £300 a day to work out oh f humberside or £550 a day to work out of Norwich, I would follow the money regardless of location. Even more so in current climate.

This club needs to temper the sustainability shite and release the purse strings ever so slightly.

Mercenary

Quoted from gtfc98

When will these idiots learn? Look at Scunny!

If you think the club can attract in demand players sustainably you don’t know the first thing about football economics.. I am not suggesting you bang out 3 year contracts to all and sundry however when there is a supply and demand effect for certain positions then you need to step up or shut up.

Or be happy with trying to get a tune out of other clubs rough diamonds or more often than not cubic zirconias

Quoted from Fette Schlange

Mercenary

You must be a 9-5 salary drone

Quoted from Fette Schlange

Mercenary

Signed for Wrexham

Quoted from Surrey97

We was never in for Quigley

If that’s true then people need to ask the question why ? How can we be so fickle as to not be in for a proven goal scorer at this level?

Quoted from male private Nale

If that’s true then people need to ask the question why ? How can we be so fickle as to not be in for a proven goal scorer at this level?

Yes Quigley is very proven goal scorer in league 2, he has 0 goals in 11 league 2 games in his career...

Quoted from male private Nale

If that’s true then people need to ask the question why ? How can we be so fickle as to not be in for a proven goal scorer at this level?

Because Paul Hurst didn’t want him, and he’s the manager.

Quoted from male private Nale

You must be a 9-5 salary drone

Retired mercenary, mortgage free house, ride on mower, bar in garden, 2 alpaca and a goat. Also have windows open cos heating on 24/7, sweat box

Quoted from Davec

Yes Quigley is very proven goal scorer in league 2, he has 0 goals in 11 league 2 games in his career...

Were the 15 in 38 two seasons ago all ruled out?

Quoted from Fette Schlange

Retired mercenary, mortgage free house, ride on mower, bar in garden, 2 alpaca and a goat. Also have windows open cos heating on 24/7, sweat box

Cool story Pinnochio, enjoy the tennents super and microwave meals

Quoted from Stockport Mariner

Because Paul Hurst didn’t want him, and he’s the manager.

That’s fine then let’s see who he brings in

would an attacker from burnley u23s be ok

Quoted from male private Nale

Cool story Pinnochio, enjoy the tennents super and microwave meals

Must be a posh girl private though if he can afford his microwave on…

Quoted from fishcake63

would an attacker from burnley u23s be ok

Lewis Richardson?

Quoted from Grimsby2012

*I would have*

Are you trying to come across as a pedantic bell end?

It's working.

I’m not sure how people on here can confidently say “we was never in for ……” Unless PH has an account on the fishy, let’s be honest we don’t have a clue who he’s after ;D ;D

Quoted from out of town

Tshimanga about to sign for Birmingham,

The hysterical weirdos at chesterfield are about to have a meltdown

That's impossible, Golly said it couldn't happen.

https://twitter.com/mattdeanbbc/status/1565401631511937029?t=6ozZRs1svTTTxzScEICiNg&s=19

Love it.

Quoted from GyMariner

I’m not sure how people on here can confidently say “we was never in for ……” Unless PH has an account on the fishy, let’s be honest we don’t have a clue who he’s after ;D ;D

One or two on here seem to be in the know.

Quoted from Davec

Yes Quigley is very proven goal scorer in league 2, he has 0 goals in 11 league 2 games in his career...

Nice research

Quoted from male private Nale

If that’s true then people need to ask the question why ? How can we be so fickle as to not be in for a proven goal scorer at this level?

Because as I said the other day, he doesn’t fit with what PH is looking for.

Quoted from aldi_01

Must be a posh girl private though if he can afford his microwave on…

No one said he was eating them hot

Quoted from Fette Schlange

Mercenary

At this level, it's about putting food on the table and paying your mortgage. Football is a short career, so make hay while the sun shines.

This board makes me howl,

Someone posts we ‘there’s one we lost to geography’ nodding agreement all around.

I question that it’s more to do with not coughing up the readies and it’s the usual insightful ones who inform me ‘we wasn’t even in for him’ , ‘in hurst we trust’ yadda yadda yadda.

Well if hurst pulls out a proven goalscorer I will be the first to get you all a beetroot sarney however we are more likely to see some last minute under 23 or some midfielder masquerading as an attacker that can play in front of our midfield which consists of 4 centre midfielders and a left back

Quoted from GyMariner

I’m not sure how people on here can confidently say “we was never in for ……” Unless PH has an account on the fishy, let’s be honest we don’t have a clue who he’s after ;D ;D

I'm curious to know what Paul Hurst and the board think about employees of the club blabbing to their mates who can't resist telling everyone; assuming what people are saying is true of course...

The wait goes on, but it could bf worse. We could still have Phil Douche posting ambiguous garbage trying to pretend he was a big shot in the know. That was truly irritating.

Quoted from Grimsby2012

We ain't singing anyone today and if we did, it'll be a panick buy/Choice Z

Choice Z has just joined Harrogate Town on loan!

Expecting 3, possibly 4

It’s Surrey clloossssiingg IIIINNNNNNNNN!!!

Quoted from Surrey97

Expecting 3, possibly 4

What a guy!

Quoted from Surrey97

Expecting 3, possibly 4

O’Neill, Hunt and who else. Excited to see who could be pulled out the bag. I expect it to be a striker and a GK but Jodi Jones is due to leave Oxford on loan till January to a league 2 club. That would be a bloody good signing.

Quoted from male private Nale

This board makes me howl,

Someone posts we ‘there’s one we lost to geography’ nodding agreement all around.

I question that it’s more to do with not coughing up the readies and it’s the usual insightful ones who inform me ‘we wasn’t even in for him’ , ‘in hurst we trust’ yadda yadda yadda.

Well if hurst pulls out a proven goalscorer I will be the first to get you all a beetroot sarney however we are more likely to see some last minute under 23 or some midfielder masquerading as an attacker that can play in front of our midfield which consists of 4 centre midfielders and a left back

I’d say with this one being a loan, it’s probably a lot to do with geography

I have expect a GK because it's comparatively easy to get one to sit on the bench. Lad from Preston sounds nailed on and Hunt likely so a potential mystery striker for number 4?

Quoted from Surrey97

Expecting 3, possibly 4

What Division was that played in?

Great away win though, almost as good as a 4-5 away win, as if that kind of thing ever happens?

Quoted from HertsGTFC

What Division was that played in?

Great away win though, almost as good as a 4-5 away win, as if that kind of thing ever happens?

I wonder if Forfar 4 East Fife 5 ever happened?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

I have expect a GK because it's comparatively easy to get one to sit on the bench. Lad from Preston sounds nailed on and Hunt likely so a potential mystery striker for number 4?

The guy from Preston is a striker (or at least has played up front for PNE). Dunno if any truth to it but guy on Preston forum said it was agreed BUT only if they get a striker in to replace him. They were In for one last I saw on there. Haven't looked for few hours though.

Quoted from Surrey97

Expecting 3, possibly 4

I could have told you that all week from Hursts interviews! Keep up the good work ;D only joking you’re doing great!

Anything actually concretely confirmed yet?

Quoted from RonMariner

I wonder if Forfar 4 East Fife 5 ever happened?

I’ve often thought about that TBH Ron.

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Anything actually concretely confirmed yet?

Not yet, no.

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

Anything actually concretely confirmed yet?

Nope

Quoted from RonMariner

I wonder if Forfar 4 East Fife 5 ever happened?

So far, no

Hunt is 100%, hearing 3 is more likely than 4

East Fife 4 Forfar 5 - the comedy result that finally came true (on penalties) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44916496

Quoted from Saudimariner

So far, no

Lol, see what you did there 🤣

Quoted from pontoonlew

Hunt is 100%, hearing 3 is more likely than 4

Lew's gone all in. Will it pay off?

O Neill is also 100% and he’s been at The club since about 2 so not sure for the hold up in announcing him

Quoted from pontoonlew

Hunt is 100%, hearing 3 is more likely than 4

Going to need a name of number 3 to have a shout of the title.

Quoted from Hagrid

O Neill is also 100% and he’s been at Cheapside since about 2 so not sure for the hold up in announcing him

We're the Last Minute Club, we don't know anything else these days. ;D

Have to hand it to Hursty as well. He never stops, never switches off

Quoted from Hagrid

Have to hand it to Hursty as well. He never stops, never switches off

Is that just a comment or a clue about the 3rd signing about something just becoming available? 😂

Quoted from Wiley2405

Is that just a comment or a clue about the 3rd signing about something just becoming available? 😂

Just a comment
I know nothing of any other names😅

Title contenders feeling each other out but none of them able (or willing) to name a name beyond Hunt and O'Neill. Nailbiting stuff.

I hope we sign a striker who scored 400 goals last season to calm Danny Braithwaite down.

lad from burnley hunt from fowls & one more if it comes off

Wonder what fee we would be paying for hunt. Surely gotta be our biggest fee in a while?

Quoted from Hagrid

O Neill is also 100% and he’s been at The club since about 2 so not sure for the hold up in announcing him

Registration? Loads of clubs doing deals must slow things down.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I hope we sign a striker who scored 400 goals last season to calm Danny Braithwaite down.

Up there with one of the most irritating Grimsby Town fans

Quoted from Wiley2405

Wonder what fee we would be paying for hunt. Surely gotta be our biggest fee in a while?

100k has been mentioned

Quoted from jamesgtfc

I hope we sign a striker who scored 400 goals last season to calm Danny Braithwaite down.

If there's anyone who needs to Log Off it's him

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Registration? Loads of clubs doing deals must slow things down.

Thats a fair point. But would have expected it to have been done by now regardless. Unless its a hit a snag

2 and half hours to go. Exciting!😂

Quoted from Wiley2405

Wonder what fee we would be paying for hunt. Surely gotta be our biggest fee in a while?

I’m expecting an undisclosed fee to be paid. Hearing undisclosed is more likely than disclosed at this point.

Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner

East Fife 4 Forfar 5 - the comedy result that finally came true (on penalties) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44916496

👍

Harry Smith could be ON, but Orient need to finalise a striker first.

This is according to the same person who called Otis Khan before anywhere else (he’s an Orient fan)

Quoted from Hagrid

Have to hand it to Hursty as well. He never stops, never switches off

You know full well that all our business has been done since Monday afternoon, and he’s sat with his feet up and a glass of red, watching the Fishy go into meltdown before the club finally announce everything in one go at 11:05pm.

What's this about Danny ? What have I missed

Quoted from pontoonlew

Harry Smith could be ON, but Orient need to finalise a striker first.

This is according to the same person who called Otis Khan before anywhere else (he’s an Orient fan)

I saw Orient posting on twitter but they seemed to have jumped the gun on a signing.

If we get Smith id be delighted with that

Quoted from pontoonlew

Harry Smith could be ON, but Orient need to finalise a striker first.

This is according to the same person who called Otis Khan before anywhere else (he’s an Orient fan)

Surrey under real pressure for the first time in a long time......

Quoted from lukeo

What's this about Danny ? What have I missed

He’s a clown but you’ve not missed anything. He’s always going OTT on twitter because we havent signed the next Messi

I’d assume two more loans, so If there is four signings I’d assume two being permanent one being hunt?

Quoted from Hagrid

He’s a clown but you’ve not missed anything. He’s always going OTT on twitter because we havent signed the next Messi

I know exactly who you mean, I've seen the odd tweet from him in-between all the porn

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Surrey under real pressure for the first time in a long time......

OR is Pontoon under pressure throwing a name out there? Although very cautiously and not throwing all his eggs into one basket. It is tense.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Harry Smith could be ON, but Orient need to finalise a striker first.

This is according to the same person who called Otis Khan before anywhere else (he’s an Orient fan)

He’s just signed for Exeter…

Quoted from Mikey_345

He’s just signed for Exeter…

This. Confirmed on their Twitter a few minutes ago

That is flipping annoying

Quoted from Mikey_345

He’s just signed for Exeter…

I’d imagine that’s why we’re down to 3 out of 4 then

Hope he wasn’t the striker Hurst has been after.

I think it shows just how desperate teams are for a striker that a bloke who couldnt get in orients 11, signs for a team the league above.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Harry Smith could be ON, but Orient need to finalise a striker first.

This is according to the same person who called Otis Khan before anywhere else (he’s an Orient fan)

Instant relegation.

I’m willing to miss out on a few players, even a striker if it means we can continue to be sustainable. UTM

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

I’m willing to miss out on a few players, even a striker if it means we can continue to be sustainable. UTM

Pretty sure we're not being ran sustainably at the moment, JS and AP have said we'll be operating at a loss for a bit unless I've missed an update on that.

Chris Maguire, currently suspended by Lincoln and on a charge from the FA is getting his contract terminated so he can be free to sign for someone else. Not been punished yet but maybe, if it's a short ban, he will end up here.

We can sign free agents after today...

You just know we’re being shafted left right and centre ;D

Quoted from Son of Cod

Pretty sure we're not being ran sustainably at the moment, JS and AP have said we'll be operating at a loss for a bit unless I've missed an update on that.

How on earth do you become sustainable if you don’t act like you are ?

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Instant relegation.

In my defence, I did say COULD and it wasn’t from my usual source.

Please have mercy Ska

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

I’m willing to miss out on a few players, even a striker if it means we can continue to be sustainable. UTM

I’d say 5800 season tickets and a million quid from promotion covers sustainable for a little while.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Pretty sure we're not being ran sustainably at the moment, JS and AP have said we'll be operating at a loss for a bit unless I've missed an update on that.

I know that and trust the owners not to take any risks

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Chris Maguire, currently suspended by Lincoln and on a charge from the FA is getting his contract terminated so he can be free to sign for someone else. Not been punished yet but maybe, if it's a short ban, he will end up here.

We can sign free agents after today...

Bloody decent player aswell.

Re: Harry Smith...

Do we actually need an out and out striker? We have Taylor, Orti & Pepple and I don't think there's much prospect of Hurst wanting to play 2 strikers given our squad and how we generally set-up.

Someone able to play the McAtee role in a 4-2-3-1 would surely be more likely?

If Hurst ideally wants 4 surely that's another GK, a central midfielder, a winger (as JMD seems surplus to requirements) and that attacking midfielder/number 10 type.

Quoted from Dave Gilberts Left Peg

I’m willing to miss out on a few players, even a striker if it means we can continue to be sustainable. UTM

Not that I disagree, but you’d imagine there’s money in the pot, wouldn’t you. Record season ticket sales, best home gates in decades, McAtee transfer revenue, last season’s top earner off the wage bill, a squad entirely free of wage thieves. We’ve obviously brought in some decent players but, from the outside looking in, none look like they’d be commanding massive League Two wages.

I don’t think handwringing on the Fishy is a particularly good look, but I can kind of understand why there might be higher than usual expectation.

Quoted from pontoonlew

In my defence, I did say COULD and it wasn’t from my usual source.

Please have mercy Ska

I think you've blown the title but still up there for me. I don't want to penalise risk takers but then I don't make up the rules.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Re: Harry Smith...

Do we actually need an out and out striker?

Yes, yes we do.

EOM.

Quoted from Son of Cod

Pretty sure we're not being ran sustainably at the moment, JS and AP have said we'll be operating at a loss for a bit unless I've missed an update on that.

When the accounts are released take a look at the losses and then how much money the owners have had to spend on pitches and bringing Blundell Park off life support after it was allowed to fall into a state of disrepair. Those 2 figures will be very similar.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Chris Maguire, currently suspended by Lincoln and on a charge from the FA is getting his contract terminated so he can be free to sign for someone else. Not been punished yet but maybe, if it's a short ban, he will end up here.

We can sign free agents after today...

Absolutely no way, this guy is a bad apple from what I've heard from work mates..

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Re: Harry Smith...

Do we actually need an out and out striker? We have Taylor, Orti & Pepple and I don't think there's much prospect of Hurst wanting to play 2 strikers given our squad and how we generally set-up.

Someone able to play the McAtee role in a 4-2-3-1 would surely be more likely?

If Hurst ideally wants 4 surely that's another GK, a central midfielder, a winger (as JMD seems surplus to requirements) and that attacking midfielder/number 10 type.

Tshimanga wouldn't be a bad shout. As far as League One and Championship clubs go, he's over the hill at 25, nobody will touch him.

Donny just managed to loan a young striker from Liverpool

Quoted from Meza

Absolutely no way, this guy is a bad apple from what I've heard from work mates..

Agreed, heard he’s a massive gobshite…

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Re: Harry Smith...

Do we actually need an out and out striker? We have Taylor, Orti & Pepple and I don't think there's much prospect of Hurst wanting to play 2 strikers given our squad and how we generally set-up.

Someone able to play the McAtee role in a 4-2-3-1 would surely be more likely?

If Hurst ideally wants 4 surely that's another GK, a central midfielder, a winger (as JMD seems surplus to requirements) and that attacking midfielder/number 10 type.

None of our forwards have scored this season yet, have they?

Quoted from aldi_01

Agreed, heard he’s a massive gobshite…

I dont know if this is true but from what a couple of work mates tells me he promised a young fan if he came to the awards night he would get his ball signed, only to complete let the young fan down and completely ignore him and deny anything he said. They also mentioned something happened during the awards night and players walked out.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Re: Harry Smith...

Do we actually need an out and out striker? We have Taylor, Orti & Pepple and I don't think there's much prospect of Hurst wanting to play 2 strikers given our squad and how we generally set-up.

Someone able to play the McAtee role in a 4-2-3-1 would surely be more likely?

If Hurst ideally wants 4 surely that's another GK, a central midfielder, a winger (as JMD seems surplus to requirements) and that attacking midfielder/number 10 type.

I think we need a younger, more mobile version of Taylor, so not necessarily an out and out goal scorer, but we've lost McAtees goals and don't seem to have worked out yet how to replace them.

Harry Smith joined Exeter on loan

T-minus 2 hours.

So far, quieter than the Scunthorpe United supporters bus.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

None of our forwards have scored this season yet, have they?

Only 1 of our 3 strikers has started a league game though.

We generally play a 4-3-3 converting to 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-4 when chasing games and goals have been scored by players who play in those forward roles.

If we sign another striker it might well indicate someone being phased out of regular first team league action like happened with LJL last season.

Quoted from ginnywings

I think we need a younger, more mobile version of Taylor, so not necessarily an out and out goal scorer, but we've lost McAtees goals and don't seem to have worked out yet how to replace them.

For me I’d like us to get someone who just knows when to pop up in the 6 yard box when a ball comes in and when not to when a ball is not coming into that space.

George Shelvey from Forest is a GK We’ve enquired about. Loan

Quoted from lukeo

I know exactly who you mean, I've seen the odd tweet from him in-between all the porn

Stop watching so much porn then

Quoted from Hagrid

George Shelvey from Forest is a GK We’ve enquired about. Loan

Can he also play up front?

Quoted from Posh Harry

Stop watching so much porn then

How embarrassing if you start knocking one out to hot Russian babes and suddenly a tweet linking us to Phil jones lights up your screen as you reach your vinegar stroke

Quoted from Hagrid

George Shelvey from Forest is a GK We’ve enquired about. Loan

Heard he can play a blinder. Oh no, that's Shelby from Brum.

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

How embarrassing if you start knocking one out to hot Russian babes and suddenly a tweet linking us to Phil jones lights up your screen as you reach your vinegar stroke

eww

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

How embarrassing if you start knocking one out to hot Russian babes and suddenly a tweet linking us to Phil jones lights up your screen as you reach your vinegar stroke

Yep, that’s a sure-fire way to send your spaff straight back down the tube…

[img]https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1820881.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/Phil-Jones-gurning-face-as-Sergio-Aguero-scores.jpg[/img]

Quoted from bobbyturtle

eww

Don’t like Russians?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

How embarrassing if you start knocking one out to hot Russian babes and suddenly a tweet linking us to Phil jones lights up your screen as you reach your vinegar stroke

Challenging male masturbation that mate

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Don’t like Russians?

is phil jones russian?

Quoted from GyMariner

INCOMING

Presumably our Irish Italian American friend Mikey O’Neill, just to kick things off.

https://gtfc.co.uk/category/club-news/

https://gtfc.co.uk/richardson-signs-on-loan/

Grimsby Town Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Burnley striker Lewis Richardson on loan until January 2023.

Lewis Richardson from Burnley till Jan. Young Striker who made debut for Burnley against Tottenham

Quoted from davmariner

Is he a target man?

5ft 10. So I’d say not

Looks very highly rated

I’ve got pants older than him. Welcome Lewis!

Couple of brief Premier League appearances last season suggest he must have something about him.

[tweet]1565436865322385409[/tweet]

Nice bit of work.

Burnley academy's Twitter says it's a season long loan?

Paul Hurst 1-0 Fishy ITK’s

Quoted from GyMariner

Paul Hurst 1-0 Fishy ITK’s

There isn't any Fishy ITKs. I doubt he tells the coaching staff till it is all done and dusted.

Source on twitter says Hunt has turned down approaches from Bradford and signed on a permanent fir GTFC...Normally a reliable source of info too

Quoted from GyMariner

Paul Hurst 1-0 Fishy ITK’s

I'm sure somebody said a player from Burnley was coming in?

[tweet]1565439782943166464[/tweet]

Season long!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

There isn't any Fishy ITKs. I doubt he tells the coaching staff till it is all done and dusted.

Surrey has got everything spot on…..

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I'm sure somebody said a player from Burnley was coming in?

It was fishcake63

Quoted from fishcake63

would an attacker from burnley u23s be ok

and here's the evidence! well done Fishcake!

it was indeed it was something i read at teatime on a twitter page so not claiming to be itk

Quoted from fishcake63

it was indeed it was something i read at teatime on a twitter page so not claiming to be itk

No time for faux humility - do another one and try to get on a promotion charge.

Quoted from fishcake63

it was indeed it was something i read at teatime on a twitter page so not claiming to be itk

That's exactly what somebody in the know but not wanting to expose their source would say!

Who was that young Burnley striker we had a few seasons back?

Was it Wesley?

Quoted from ginnywings

Who was that young Burnley striker we had a few seasons back?

Was it Wesley?

Was it Wes Fletcher?

Quoted from ginnywings

Who was that young Burnley striker we had a few seasons back?

Was it Wesley?

Wes Fletcher. One of the 27 09/10 loanees.

Quoted from Abdul19

Wes Fletcher. One of the 27 09/10 loanees.

Harsh. It was only 19.

Quoted from cjbill

Was it Wes Fletcher?

Yeah, good memory that man.

Hope the new lad fares better.

Quoted from Abdul19

Wes Fletcher. One of the 27 09/10 loanees.

he scored with his bottom?

Quoted from bobbyturtle

he scored with his bottom?

Chris Jones, wasn’t it?

Chris Jones scored with his bottom

Was that our relegation side?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Fletcher

Matt Dean just posted Hunt about to be announced

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Lewis Richardson?

And I still can’t get above the telegraph as already relegated 🥺🥺🥺

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

And I still can’t get above the telegraph as already relegated 🥺🥺🥺

Still giving it a go though like the plucky Dover that you are.

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/sheffield-wednesday-hunt-league-two-24909973

Hunt signed according the Wednesday!!

Quoted from ginnywings

Who was that young Burnley striker we had a few seasons back?

Was it Wesley?

I was thinking Martin Patterson he was more successful wasn't he

[tweet]1565444737221419010[/tweet]

Yorkshire Live pretty much confirming Hunt now...

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Still giving it a go though like the plucky Dover that you are.

Are you saying am crawling with immigrants

Quoted from MrsMariner

I was thinking Martin Patterson he was more successful wasn't he

Got him from Stoke

Alongside the forgettable Anthony Pulis. A man who made less than 100 senior football appearances despite being in the game for 12 years

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Are you saying am crawling with immigrants

No I was saying that you're flipping dreadful at predicting transfers but that you keep trying anyway.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

No I was saying that you're flipping dreadful at predicting transfers but that you keep trying anyway.

A bit like Richard Brodie that if you have enough shots, ones gotta go in!

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

A bit like Richard Brodie that if you have enough shots, ones gotta go in!

This one didn’t.

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Quoted from Poojah

This one didn’t.

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Have they found the ball yet?

Ryley Towler to AFC Wimbledon.

Ryan Bennett has left Swansea and is a free agent.

I’d be interested to see where Bennett ends up regardless

Is it close of play for us or is the Nob End lad deal still on?

Quoted from GyMariner

I’d be interested to see where Bennett ends up regardless

thought he was off to Coventry?

I need sleep! Currently suffering from covid and it has totally wiped me out, digging in real deep to stay up until this late stage when I am really fatigued from covid!

Quoted from Davec

I need sleep! Currently suffering from covid and it has totally wiped me out, digging in real deep to stay up until this late stage when I am really fatigued from covid!

Get well soon. #UTM

Tshmanga fails medical at Birmingham!!

Quoted from Davec

I need sleep! Currently suffering from covid and it has totally wiped me out, digging in real deep to stay up until this late stage when I am really fatigued from covid!

Don't envy you. It knocked me on my behind for weeks and it was about 3 months before I felt right again.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Tshmanga fails medical at Birmingham!!

thought we'd established that you can't fail a medical?? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quoted from Davec

I need sleep! Currently suffering from covid and it has totally wiped me out, digging in real deep to stay up until this late stage when I am really fatigued from covid!

Just go to sleep😂

Your gonna see the news in the morning anyway so whats the issue?

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Tshmanga fails medical at Birmingham!!

Blimey, that ankle injury can’t be fully healed. But he has been playing recently? Strange.

Quoted from Hagrid

Just go to sleep😂

Your gonna see the news in the morning anyway so whats the issue?

I want to see any news tonight!

Quoted from Davec

I want to see any news tonight!

Fair play then mate😅

Know what you mean regarding the covid fatigue though. Wiped me out and was a good six weeks or so before i could do any physical exercise at all

Quoted from Hagrid

Fair play then mate😅

Know what you mean regarding the covid fatigue though. Wiped me out and was a good six weeks or so before i could do any physical exercise at all

The good thing is I get full pay from work until Thursday next week but I'm hoping to be in work by then, there's only so much daytime TV one can cope with!

Gonna be the 11th hour.

Well, somebody had to...

[tweet]1565459486835462147[/tweet]

Had him on FM great young player

PH strikes again :) Don't think anyone was expecting another striker

helluva name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyendrah_Simmonds

I guess this means we'll be playing 2 up top from now on then with 5 strikers now on the books.

Quoted from forza ivano

helluva name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyendrah_Simmonds

Pair him with Pepple and you will struggle to find a pairing with more letters in their full names.

So thats 5 loanees isnt it?
2 today, Pepple, Kiernan, Mcatee

Quoted from Hagrid

So thats 5 loanees isnt it?
2 today, Pepple, Kiernan, Mcatee

+ smith

Quoted from Hagrid

So thats 5 loanees isnt it?
2 today, Pepple, Kiernan, Mcatee

Smith…

Quoted from Hagrid

So thats 5 loanees isnt it?
2 today, Pepple, Kiernan, Mcatee

Smith aswell.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

+ smith

Ah yes of course. Thank you

I dont think Kiernans is classed as season long loan if its till Jan thats a short term loan and wont count against the 5 long season loans.

He’s said before that given Keirnan’s loan expires in Jan, and we won’t see McAtee much before Christmas that we can max out at 6 officially.

Guessing O'Neill is off then, unless we're going to carry 7 loanees.

The club latest tweet indicates no more business probably, do we know what happened to Hunt and O'Neil as apparently both were done deals earlier.

Quoted from Meza

I dont think Kiernans is classed as season long loan if its till Jan thats a short term loan and wont count against the 5 long season loans.

You can only have five loans in a match day squad. Guessing this is because McAtee won’t be back for a while.

Did hunt get finalised ?????

Quoted from Davec

The club latest tweet indicates no more business probably, do we know what happened to Hunt and O'Neil as apparently both were done deals earlier.

Hunt has definitely signed.

Quoted from Davec

The club latest tweet indicates no more business probably, do we know what happened to Hunt and O'Neil as apparently both were done deals earlier.

It simply means we have a club twitter admin who loves banter

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Did hunt get finalised ?????

yes

https://twitter.com/officialgtfc/status/1565461839718350849

Quoted from Meza

I dont think Kiernans is classed as season long loan if its till Jan thats a short term loan and wont count against the 5 long season loans.

Can only have 5 loans in the matchday 18, whether they're half season or full season.

No idea what happened with the O Neill one. Bizarre
Signing of Hunt is superb though

I’m still up waiting for Chesterfield to announce the sale of Tshimanga. What time shall I give up and go to bed?

Quoted from Hagrid

No idea what happened with the O Neill one. Bizarre
Signing of Hunt is superb though

Maybe what the fella said on the Preston forum was right - that it was agreed with the proviso they managed to bring a striker in. Maybe they didn't or didn't in time so we looked elsewhere whilst we still could?

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

How embarrassing if you start knocking one out to hot Russian babes and suddenly a tweet linking us to Phil jones lights up your screen as you reach your vinegar stroke

Fùcking hell 😂😂😂😂😭

https://gtfc.co.uk/mariners-secure-hunt-signature/

3 year deal…flipping hell. Who was the last fornicator to get one of them? Serge?

Mega signing that…

Quoted from aldi_01

3 year deal…flipping hell. Who was the last fornicator to get one of them? Serge?

Mega signing that…

Did Hearn get a 3 year deal? Honestly can't remember many 3 year deals but McKeown signed a 3 year extension in 2019.

Glorious footballer, what a signing!

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Did Hearn get a 3 year deal? Honestly can't remember many 3 year deals but McKeown signed a 3 year extension in 2019.

Does Sam Russell count?!

Guessing no Mikey O’Neill?

Quoted from Abdul19

Does Sam Russell count?!

The 3 year deals have come flooding back now! He's not the last one though, GyMariner has reminded us all about Montel "Gender Reveal" Gibson.

Sam Russell getting a 3 year deal was very, very odd.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I’m still up waiting for Chesterfield to announce the sale of Tshimanga. What time shall I give up and go to bed?

I’m going to bed. Birmingham City were apparently too busy at 23:04 tweeting about loaning us Keke Simmonds and have forgotten to announce the signing of Tshimanga.

They’ll probably remember in the morning and announce it then.

Unless the explanation is that I was right and nobody is going to spend £750,000 plus on a National League striker.

The only sniff Chesterfield got was from a bunch of chancers who agreed a silly price and then pretended there was an issue with his medical and tried to bully Chesterfield to take less than half the agreed price.

Chesterfield rightly told them where to go.

So like I said all along, no serious bidders would pay that price for him.

Good night everyone.

Quoted from aldi_01

3 year deal…flipping hell. Who was the last fornicator to get one of them? Serge?

Mega signing that…

I don’t think there’s any way in the world we’d pay a six figure amount for any player and leave ourselves in the position where in 8 months the season will be ending and the players will be entering the final year of his contract.

It said on Twitter he failed a medical (Tishmanga) not sure if thats true though as he has been playing the last few games.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I’m going to bed. Birmingham City were apparently too busy at 23:04 tweeting about loaning us Keke Simmonds and have forgotten to announce the signing of Tshimanga.

They’ll probably remember in the morning and announce it then.

Unless the explanation is that I was right and nobody is going to spend £750,000 plus on a National League striker.

The only sniff Chesterfield got was from a bunch of chancers who agreed a silly price and then pretended there was an issue with his medical and tried to bully Chesterfield to take less than half the agreed price.

Chesterfield rightly told them where to go.

So like I said all along, no serious bidders would pay that price for him.

Good night everyone.

lmao i must be missing the bit in all of your previous posts on tshimanga where you happen to claim the transfer to a championship team won't happen because his leg bones are made of dust. let's examine them:

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Too old. He's 25. No one is going to spend a 7-figure sum on him. Too little time to develop him and expect to recoup the fee and make a profit by selling him on. He's only a year younger than Ivan Toney for example. When Ivan Toney was that age he was going into the PL with Brentford. For any club to invest a big fee for Tshimanga they'd be looking to do what Peterborough did with Toney and make a big profit off him. Unfortunately it's too late for him to be anything other than a solid lower league striker.

TOO OLD

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Football has moved on in 10 years.

And also Vardy was an obvious raw talent who worked his way up non-league. His explosive acceleration and pace were as important as his goal scoring record. He was unique. He was a safe bet. He would always make some sort of an impact by virtue of his speed.

Tshimanga has already failed at EFL level once and ended up at non-league. He even failed at Boston when first dropping into the semi-pro game. He’s not a unique talent like Vardy. He’s just a NL goalscorer. Whereas Vardy had taken to every new step he played at, Tshimanga has a couple of miserable failures on his CV.

L1 & L2 clubs won’t be able to afford to pay the fee Chesterfield would want and Championship clubs would be unwilling to.

He’ll end up in the EFL either by winning promotion with Chesterfield or on a free transfer when his contract expires in summer 2024. But either way he’ll not get past bottom half L1 or L2 level.

CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS WON'T BE INTERESTED

Quoted from GollyGTFC

It’s not 1986. It’s 2022. There are no hidden gems like Ian Wright anymore. All the big clubs have an in-depth knowledge on all young prospects in their area and nationally for the best organised clubs. The fact that Tshimanga did brilliant at Oxford City and one of the top clubs who hoover up young talent to develop and sell on is Oxford United and they didn’t think he was worth a punt tells you everything. And back then he was at an age when Oxford United could have expected a return. He’s too old now. That’s modern football.

NOBODY WANTED TO SIGN HIM WHEN HE WAS AT OXFORD CITY

ah right yeah none of those reasons seem to explain why he was on the cusp of joining a championship team today, with multiple journalists tweeting that was the case until news of his failed medical broke. i'm not sure tonight's events vindicate your stance here, but then you never actually admit when you're wrong do you

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I’m going to bed. Birmingham City were apparently too busy at 23:04 tweeting about loaning us Keke Simmonds and have forgotten to announce the signing of Tshimanga.

They’ll probably remember in the morning and announce it then.

Unless the explanation is that I was right and nobody is going to spend £750,000 plus on a National League striker.

The only sniff Chesterfield got was from a bunch of chancers who agreed a silly price and then pretended there was an issue with his medical and tried to bully Chesterfield to take less than half the agreed price.

Chesterfield rightly told them where to go.

So like I said all along, no serious bidders would pay that price for him.

Good night everyone.

Are you a lawyer, or maybe an estate agent? Spin doctor perhaps?

It’s certainly going to make selection for the match day squad interesting going forward, never mind making the team (although Saturday may be too soon for some of these signings). Glad I don’t have to pick the team.

Looking forward to Saturday, whatever happens, we’re going to have more options on the bench in the future

Quoted from Chrisblor

lmao i must be missing the bit in all of your previous posts on tshimanga where you happen to claim the transfer to a championship team won't happen because his leg bones are made of dust. let's examine them:

TOO OLD

CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS WON'T BE INTERESTED

NOBODY WANTED TO SIGN HIM WHEN HE WAS AT OXFORD CITY

ah right yeah none of those reasons seem to explain why he was on the cusp of joining a championship team today, with multiple journalists tweeting that was the case until news of his failed medical broke. i'm not sure tonight's events vindicate your stance here, but then you never actually admit when you're wrong do you

He wasn’t on the cusp of joining a Championship club today. There was a fee that nobody was willing to pay. Birmingham had no intention of paying that fee for him. They were attempting to bully Chesterfield into taking less than half of the asking price. A fee similar to the one Chesterfield bought him for last season.

It’s funny how Birmingham have had 3 or 4 deals breakdown this summer after agreeing a fee because of “medical issues”. It’s almost like they are trying to appease their supporters by looking active in the transfer market when they aren’t.

And who’s attempting to buy Birmingham at the moment and is allegedly pulling the strings there? Laurence Bassini.

You’ve heard of him right? You think they were ever going to spend £750,000 on an untested striker. It’s laughable.

Quoted from MrThirsty

It’s certainly going to make selection for the match day squad interesting going forward, never mind making the team (although Saturday may be too soon for some of these signings). Glad I don’t have to pick the team.

Looking forward to Saturday, whatever happens, we’re going to have more options on the bench in the future

Be interesting to hear from PH tomorrow. I assume we were in for a forward as a permanent it didn’t work out (maybe Harry Smith) and instead he’ll hope one or more of these younger ones comes good.

Quoted from davmariner

Guessing no Mikey O’Neill?

I might be wrong, but isn't this the name of the character that Brad Pitt played in Snatch?

Quoted from MrThirsty

It’s certainly going to make selection for the match day squad interesting going forward, never mind making the team (although Saturday may be too soon for some of these signings). Glad I don’t have to pick the team.

Looking forward to Saturday, whatever happens, we’re going to have more options on the bench in the future

Even more interesting when we can add McCatee, Khan, Maher and Scannell to the squad!

Golly having a normal one, I see. lmao

Needless to say, he had the last laugh.

Quoted from 123614

I might be wrong, but isn't this the name of the character that Brad Pitt played in Snatch?

I fu(king hate pikies

Quoted from ska face

Golly having a normal one, I see. lmao

At least I didn't go full Chrisblor and quote all the users who replied and rubbished my opinion that nobody would pay the asking price (around £750,000) for Tshimanga. I won't lie, I was tempted to quote those who thought they were being clever yesterday and mocked me when Birmingham were linked with him on Twitter.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

At least I didn't go full Chrisblor and quote all the users who replied and rubbished my opinion that nobody would pay the asking price (around £750,000) for Tshimanga. I won't lie, I was tempted to quote those who thought they were being clever yesterday and mocked me when Birmingham were linked with him on Twitter.

Sod it. Here are a few lol...

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Tshimanga best hope Birmingham don't decide to randomly check a Grimsby Town forum before he signs that contract where a user claimed with some certainty that there is absolutely no chance of Tshimanga getting a move to a Championship club.

Quoted from Lost in Lincoln

That's impossible, Golly said it couldn't happen.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Tshimanga wouldn't be a bad shout. As far as League One and Championship clubs go, he's over the hill at 25, nobody will touch him.

Sorry to only highlight these rather tame posts from last night and not the countless others over the past couple of weeks.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

Sod it. Here are a few lol...

Sorry to only highlight these rather tame posts from last night and not the countless others over the past couple of weeks.

Do you walk with a limp?

Quoted from headingly_mariner

Have a missed something? Or is this a bit racist?

You've not seen Snatch then?

Can we now close this thread till Christmas

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Can we now close this thread till Christmas

Also close the Scunthorpe one. Maybe have a stickied thread called "Tinpot Things" for all Scunthorpe related posts...

Quoted from Lost in Lincoln

You've not seen Snatch then?

I think the term has developed certain connotations over time as it is often used far more frequently as an insult against black men than Caucasian men. The meaning of the phrase is that a man who "walks with a limp" does so because he has the means & proceeds of crimes in his pockets. i.e. a gun, a large amount of money & jewelry etc... It has been adopted to play on the racist trope that black people can only have money and nice things through illegal means,

So not a racist term as such but one that is disproportionately directed at black people as an insult which is the kinder world we now live in makes it more problematic.

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Can we now close this thread till Christmas

I was thinking the same. Perhaps ska can close it with his rumours table, and then somebody reopen the thread or a new Rumours Mk 2 Thread at Christmas.

Final standings are in -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mendonca1995
Corkyefes
coddy60

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
It Bites (R)
Lukeo (R)
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)

Surrey97 clearly the most itk poster on here in respect of transfer incomings, an almost flawless record. PontoonLew not far behind with a very good record, clearly has an inside man but tends to be slightly behind Surrey. Hagrid also worth listening to, unfortunately bet the farm on Bennett early in the window and his source let him down.

Mendonca1995 had a good early shout with one signing but not consistent enough to make the top 3.

Bottom of the table is Derry’s own Woz, who retains his unblemished record of never predicting a transfer correctly. Joined by the Telegraph Sport section who get all their news from here or other online outlets, then shot their bolt early and ruined the Smith announcement. Lukeo and It Bites follow for their unprompted claims or signings that never materialised.

Special mentions for Golly for completely losing his marbles on a frantic deadline day and Grimsby2012 for being an all-round helmet. See you in Jan folks.

I'm happy to start a similar thread again come the next transfer window !!

I was amazed how far it went without multiple threads bouncing up !!

Special mention to Acko for setting up the best thread on here for ages

If anyone is interested in bricking their phone (and quite possibly taking the Fishy with it), simply click this thread’s “All” button.

Quoted from ska face

Final standings are in -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mendonca1995
Corkyefes
coddy60

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
It Bites (R)
Lukeo (R)
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)

Surrey97 clearly the most itk poster on here in respect of transfer incomings, an almost flawless record. PontoonLew not far behind with a very good record, clearly has an inside man but tends to be slightly behind Surrey. Hagrid also worth listening to, unfortunately bet the farm on Bennett early in the window and his source let him down.

Mendonca1995 had a good early shout with one signing but not consistent enough to make the top 3.

Bottom of the table is Derry’s own Woz, who retains his unblemished record of never predicting a transfer correctly. Joined by the Telegraph Sport section who get all their news from here or other online outlets, then shot their bolt early and ruined the Smith announcement. Lukeo and It Bites follow for their unprompted claims or signings that never materialised.

Special mentions for Golly for completely losing his marbles on a frantic deadline day and Grimsby2012 for being an all-round helmet. See you in Jan folks.

😂 great final paragraph.

just to add a final rumour. Little story that there was a chance yesterday of Vernham coming back on loan.

Although have to say vernham returning is becoming a bit like the return of Amond and Bogle!

Has Ryan Bennett sorted a new club yet? Surely can't leave this thread till that happens!

Quoted from forza ivano

just to add a final rumour. Little story that there was a chance yesterday of Vernham coming back on loan.

Was very close. Scully moving late on was the thing that stopped it... bloody Wigan, again!

Quoted from Mikey_345

Was very close. Scully moving late on was the thing that stopped it... bloody Wigan, again!

How was this even very close to happening? Vernam only signed for his third hometown club a couple of months ago. Is he already out of favour with no future?

Hang on a dang minute

I predicted that we would get Lewis Richardson (albeit it a mad guess and not actually knowing anything as such!)

That’s got to carry forward as actually getting me above the telegraph and lukeo at the very least *

*please note that I don’t actually care and know there are actually no rule makers here

Quoted from jamesgtfc

How was this even very close to happening? Vernam only signed for his third hometown club a couple of months ago. Is he already out of favour with no future?

They were carrying to many in the squad. Look at the game time he’s had mate.

maybe its me and im in the minority but i wouldnt want Charles Vernam back here

1run of 5-6 games and thats it. he is in danger of becoming a journeyman

Quoted from ska face

Final standings are in -

Surrey97
Pontoonlew
Hagrid
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Mendonca1995
Corkyefes
coddy60

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
It Bites (R)
Lukeo (R)
Telegraph Sport (R)
WozofGrimsby (R)

Surrey97 clearly the most itk poster on here in respect of transfer incomings, an almost flawless record. PontoonLew not far behind with a very good record, clearly has an inside man but tends to be slightly behind Surrey. Hagrid also worth listening to, unfortunately bet the farm on Bennett early in the window and his source let him down.

Mendonca1995 had a good early shout with one signing but not consistent enough to make the top 3.

Bottom of the table is Derry’s own Woz, who retains his unblemished record of never predicting a transfer correctly. Joined by the Telegraph Sport section who get all their news from here or other online outlets, then shot their bolt early and ruined the Smith announcement. Lukeo and It Bites follow for their unprompted claims or signings that never materialised.

Special mentions for Golly for completely losing his marbles on a frantic deadline day and Grimsby2012 for being an all-round helmet. See you in Jan folks.

4th bottom... I'll take that 😂

I wouldn’t take back Vernham
Had his chance and chased the gold

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

I wouldn’t take back Vernham
Had his chance and chased the gold

Don't disagree, but maybe he foresaw the excrement-show that followed his departure...

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

I wouldn’t take back Vernham
Had his chance and chased the gold

Erm…we had a 1 year option on his contract and we, in the previous regime’s wisdom, opted not to take it.

What would you like him to have done?

When Netto refused to extend my contract, I kept going in and doing my job for another 6 months for free. That's the sort of commitment that Vernhams should've shown.

In the end, I was given a restraining order, but that's not really the point.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

I wouldn’t take back Vernham
Had his chance and chased the gold

Did we actually offer him an insulting pay cut or did we just decide not to bother because two teams were going to go busy so relegation to non-league was never going to happen?

Quoted from jamesgtfc

How was this even very close to happening? Vernam only signed for his third hometown club a couple of months ago. Is he already out of favour with no future?

Never really rated him, living of that goal against Colchester.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I think the term has developed certain connotations over time as it is often used far more frequently as an insult against black men than Caucasian men. The meaning of the phrase is that a man who "walks with a limp" does so because he has the means & proceeds of crimes in his pockets. i.e. a gun, a large amount of money & jewelry etc... It has been adopted to play on the racist trope that black people can only have money and nice things through illegal means,

So not a racist term as such but one that is disproportionately directed at black people as an insult which is the kinder world we now live in makes it more problematic.

I was going to let this go but what the hell. Why do people like you LOOK for things that YOU deem racist? What exactly is your issue? I find it incredulous that more ‘call-outs’ for ALLEGED racism comes from white British than black or Asian.

I despise extreme right opinion, I further despise discrimination but you don’t put right centuries of wrong by over correction. The world is a better place in terms of harmony than the one I grew up in, thankfully. But FFS let it go and allow the course of time to redress.

Quoted from FPVmariner

I was going to let this go but what the hell. Why do people like you LOOK for things that YOU deem racist? What exactly is your issue? I find it incredulous that more ‘call-outs’ for ALLEGED racism comes from white British than black or Asian.

I despise extreme right opinion, I further despise discrimination but you don’t put right centuries of wrong by over correction. The world is a better place in terms of harmony than the one I grew up in, thankfully. But FFS let it go and allow the course of time to redress.

Pal Golly can say what he likes but he got it wrong!.. Birmingham were prepared to pay £700k for Tshmanga, they made the offer then the lad failed his medical.
He'll say anything to back up his claim that nobody would pay good money for the lad but he was wrong and will not accept that fact.