team v Woking tonight: McKeown; Hatton, Thomas, Boyce, Pearson; Kerr, Disley, Neilson, Rodman; John-Lewis, Jennings    
subs: Colbeck, Hannah, Thanoj, Fyfield & Tounkara

Paddy and clayton not in squad? Nor cooky

Quoted from Hagrid

Paddy and clayton not in squad? Nor cooky

Another game on Thursday, and again on Saturday. Expect the full squad to be used over the week.

I'd completely forgotten Fyfield was still at the club

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

Another game on Thursday, and again on Saturday. Expect the full squad to be used over the week.

Mcdonald hasn't featured - surely he'd be worth a place on the bench, especially with no specialist centre back on the bench. Must be injured or ill?

Rumours of a clause in his contract?

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Mcdonald hasn't featured - surely he'd be worth a place on the bench, especially with no specialist centre back on the bench. Must be injured or ill?

Have to agree it's a bit odd.

Who's more likely to get you a goal if you really need one ? Paddy or Colbeck? Cook or Tounkara? I'm all for using the squad to best effect but playing McLaughlin for the last two games and getting him playing well and scoring and then leaving him out of the squad altogether just seems absurd to me.

Squad rotation my bottom. Disley in again as ALWAYS. if I was Paddy I'd be well drunk off!

Apperently there's a Bradford scout watching Mckeown tonight.

Quoted from Marinerdan

Apperently there's a Bradford scout watching Mckeown tonight.

Was there a GUIDE to help??

Quoted from Badger57

Squad rotation my bottom. Disley in again as ALWAYS. if I was Paddy I'd be well drunk off!

Exactly. I'm sure he will be. Several players will be selected for all games this week, you watch. Most of them older than Paddy.
This isn't sbout resting players.

Quoted from Marinerdan

Apperently there's a Bradford scout watching Mckeown tonight.

Or is the BOYCE brigade :-/

It's not a case of everybody taking turns is it? He's picking what he feels is the best team for each game which has worked pretty well recently. He clearly regards players such as Pearson and Disley as very important and wants them in the team whenever posdible. I see nothing wrong with that. Some omissions do seem odd and I hope he's handling those left out carefully as they could well all be needed over the next few weeks.

Quoted from Badger57

Squad rotation my bottom. Disley in again as ALWAYS. if I was Paddy I'd be well drunk off!

Yeah crazy - imagine! Picking the captain who is also one of our top scorers. What is PH thinking?

come on you mighty mariners!

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Quoted from Badger57

Squad rotation my bottom. Disley in again as ALWAYS. if I was Paddy I'd be well drunk off!

Yeah crazy - imagine! Picking the captain who is also one of our top scorers. What is PH thinking?

I hearby rename. LJL Mr. Spoon! SHEESH!:'(

alfreton and barnet losing

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

Have to agree it's a bit odd.

Why? Fyfield can play CB and LB. He might not be as good as Clayton McDonald but he offers more versatility from the bench. PH sees Thanoj as a better replacement at CM than McLaughlin and has a specialised winger already on the bench. Rodman can be switched to the other flank if needed. I imagine Cook's out because he hasn't earnt his place.

People always look for conspiracy and intrigue when it isn't really there.

alfreton 2 down

Does anyone else's stream keep having BBC Humberside adverts playing over the top of JT?

Yep

Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY

Was there a GUIDE to help??

Too late Bradford McKeown already signed a new deal, or so i was told.

These BBC adverts are annoying!

Looks like town with a bright start according to the Mariners Wall

Grimsby Town FC@officialgtfc
30: More good play on right, the ball runs for LJL but the defender recovers I block #gtfc8:17 PM

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28: Another shout for a Town penalty. Deep free kick sees Boyce checked by a defender but a goal kick is given #gtfc8:15 PM

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27: Jennings plays a lovely flick through for Disley in the box, there's an outstretched foot but the Town man is booked for a dive #gtfc8:12 PM

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24: Deep corner reaches Rodman at the far post but he can't force it home & it goes out for a goal kick #gtfc 0 #woking 08:10 PM

Grimsby Town FC@officialgtfc
23: John-Lewis muscles his way in from Neilson's long ball but his shot is excellently saved for a corner #gtfc8:05 PM

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17: Deep free kick from Hatton sees Pearson rise above everyone but he heads away from goal & Rodman's effort is blocked #gtfc8:04 PM

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16: Lovely stuff from Rodman, wins ball in midfield beats two men and fires in a rasping 20 yard drive that produces a flying save #gtfc8:01 PM

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14: Low corner from Kerr is cleared at 2nd attempt by#Woking defence8:00 PM

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13: lovely ball forward by Hatton for the run of Disley. The keeper gets their first & just gets a touch for a corner before taking Diz out7:57 PM

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9: Good work by Thomas & Jennings tees up LJL in the area but the ball is slightly behind him & his shot rises over #gtfc7:56 PM

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8: Betsy cuts across the area and fires in a left footed shot that's deflected into McKeown's path #gtfcReplyRetweetFavorite  7:50 PM

Grimsby Town FC@officialgtfcBright start from #gtfc with Rodman and LJL both having shots inside the opening minute, neither on target though

Bloody Humberside adverts

Humberside=amateurs.

Grimsby Town FC@officialgtfc
38: Good play on the left from Kerr & John-Lewis to play in Thomas who whistles a right footer just wide from 18 yards#gtfc

Quoted from immariner

Why? Fyfield can play CB and LB. He might not be as good as Clayton McDonald but he offers more versatility from the bench. PH sees Thanoj as a better replacement at CM than McLaughlin and has a specialised winger already on the bench. Rodman can be switched to the other flank if needed. I imagine Cook's out because he hasn't earnt his place.

People always look for conspiracy and intrigue when it isn't really there.

Amen to that.
Are Strikers can't score for excrement but people don't want our goalscoring midfielder in, baffling.

Quoted from Freemoash88

These BBC adverts are annoying!

WHS

That last one was especially shite! Just as we got it in the box as well.

Our strikers are on fire again I see...

Half time 0-0.

Not a bad half and at times we have sounded as though we have played well.  The shop again has worked hard, unfortunately our 2 best chances have fallen to him - enough said!

Overall we are doing ok.

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Reasonable first half with some good football at times but do we look like scoring? Not in a million years. Toothless up front as usual. :-(

Team selection tells me we're happy with a point tonight - but another Rodman special will do nicely.

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Quoted from Teestogreen

Team selection tells me we're happy with a point tonight - but another Rodman special will do nicely.

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What part of the team selection makes you think that?

I think it's almost the most attacking we have.

:)

Art 3507, 21 Woking!

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Quoted from 3610

What part of the team selection makes you think that?

I think it's almost the most attacking we have.

Agreed, if we wanted a draw we'd have put Paddy and Colbeck on the wings. Not Nielson and Rodman.

Shopoff target following good work by Thomas.

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The LJL situation is ridiculous....how can a striker with such a poor finishing rate get so many chances? Jennings would be on 2 or 3 by now with those chances but seems to be barely involved inside the box.

results are going our way if we can sneak a goal

The problem is we all have our own opinions on what team should play but ultimately its PH decision.  Personally I would have played PM to keep his momentum progressing its not like he aint earnt it. Oh well

Quoted from Cumbrian Mariner

Art 3507, 21 Woking!

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That is a decent crowd IMO, we normally have a core support of 3200,
so we are 300ish up on normal, despite my earlier fears.

Quoted from RoboCod

The LJL situation is ridiculous....how can a striker with such a poor finishing rate get so many chances? Jennings would be on 2 or 3 by now with those chances but seems to be barely involved inside the box.

I really can't wait until Hurst finds a replacement for him. I have just about had enough of us building a team around a striker who misses 95% of his chances.

Still no substitutions by either side. According to Woking Mariner, they have only got 13 players. Now is Paul's chances to play the jokers.

Tounkara and colbeck on for town with Jennings and neilson going off.

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Update - Woking have taken Marriott of and brought Sole on

We've had how many chances?

Good job Cumbria's functioning  ;D

Quoted from chaos33

We've had LJL has missed how many chances?

fixed

Pearson hits the bar with a header from a corner.

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Pearson hits the bar its coming

Quoted from Cumbrian Mariner

Tounkara and colbeck on for town with Jennings and neilson going off.

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I'd love it to bite me on the bottom but that's an absolutely dog excrement substitution.

Well done Town great work.

0-1 og boyce

balderdash.

First real effort this half? Thought we'd stopped all that.. :-/

Colbeck has had "Absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever". Well worth dropping McLaughlin for. Farce.

Crap

Quoted from Chrisblor

Well done Town great work.

As if it wasn't completely predictable.

It sounded like we were getting some joy with Thomas heading down the wings and crossing into the box.  Now, every other phrase from JT seems to be "lifted", which I think is his euphemism for hoofing it up in the air.  Let's hope this changes in the last five minutes.

Hurst hasn't got a clue what his best team is, nor does he have any idea to improve our pathetic goalscoring record.

Right now we rely on our midfield to score goals for us and pray that our defenders are capable of keeping clean sheets. Midfielders won't score in every game, nor will we keep clean sheets all the time either. This means our absolutely flipping useless strikers have to contribute more to the team than 'winning headers' or 'pressuring defenders' if we want to get promoted, but I really don't see it being a problem Hurst is capable of resolving.

I give up moaning about rotating.  This week it makes sense but its killing the momentum.

Tonka !!

intercourse me one of them scored

Christ.......a forward has scored.....get in!

Tounkara you beauty, get in 1-1.

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Leave Lewis up??? Leave the useless pile at home he couldn't score for toffee the donkey

yesssssssssss

Now stick Ross on for Shop and get another !!

I wonder how much shite PH will get tonight.

Super sub.

The Tinkerman does it again.  Well b****r me with a fishfork.

WHAAT!!

hahahahahahhahahahah intercourse offffffffffffffffffff

christ

I wonder how much shite PH will get tonight.

What the bloody hell are we doing conceding this late again, we should make sure we do not concede after getting back into it.

Two efforts on goal this half? Two goals...

Pheewww

no, yes, no so far tonight

Unprofessional!

Absolute joke!!!!!! This stage in the season we should be smashing Woking

oh god not LJL don't let him take it

Pen!!!  SHOP to take????? :-/ :-/ :-/

Penalty to Town

not ljl, not looking

No!

Lenny to level it.  What courage.  Come on Lenny, bury it!!!!

Quoted from Gtfc_aldred_1988

Absolute joke!!!!!! This stage in the season we should be smashing Woking

That's really not true.

fuckin get in, well done

Professional! ;)

Feed the Shop and he will score!

Goooooal 2-2

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Quoted from bobbyturtle

no, yes, no so far tonight

yes  ;D

im going doctors tomorrow

Woking management spitting multiple dummies out...

Brilliant stuff!!!!

Great result considering what's happened elsewhere, against a decent side who were on a good run.  Onto Dartford.

That was mental. Well done Shop!!

Phew!

What the hell!!!!!!!! what a finish!

Unbelievable. Was this part of the measured plan//?!!1

well done lennie, very brave had my heart in my mouth

Christ, don't know if I can take much more!  Nothing is ever easy being a Town fan is it!

Good point showing a real  spirit.

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I'm ok with a draw, Woking are a toughie but I'm dismayed at conceding 2 out of 2 chances in that 2nd half.
4 Away blank sheets just makes it more ludicrous.

Gerrin!!!

Our strikers are on fire! LJL and Tounkara both have 1 in 1. That's a 100% strike rate over the last 1 game.

You have to give LJL total credit for guts, he knows he would have been totally
slaughtered had he missed, absolute bottle shown, well done lad!

Credit to Lennie for taking the penalty.

Quoted from petethemariner

You have to give LJL total credit for guts, he knows he would have been totally
slaughtered had he missed, absolute bottle shown, well done lad!

this

We should have been leading by half time still a points a point.  Could be worse could have been in Alfretons shoes and getting hammered 4-1 at home at such a critical stage of the season by Alfreton down you go lol.

The biggest positive tonight was Tounkara actually carving out and scoring a chance for himself. He must start the next game after that. The rest of it, well I don't even know where to start. 16.9% of penalties are missed when taken by attacking players, so well done to LJL for showing such resolve in overcoming those huge odds.

That league table looks a heck of a lot better tonight -  on to Dartford ;D

Big balls!

Quoted from psgmariner

Gerrin!!!

Our strikers are on fire! LJL and Tounkara both have 1 in 1. That's a 100% strike rate over the last 1 game.

And if we consider only the last 5 minutes, they both have a goal every 5 minutes. That's 18 per game. Sensational stuff.

Absolutely massive b0ll0cks shown by LJL. Wouldn't surprise me if some on here wanted him to miss as well the kind of slagging off he gets.

UTFM!

Lennie, all credit to you mate.  Taking that penalty showed a lot of balls, really pleased for you. Hope this gives you a massive lift in confidence and you start banging the goals in now!

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I always knew we would do it!  ;)

4 Points inside the playoffs with 2 games in hand!! Get in, well done LJL and while I would of been annoyed with a point at kick off 1-0 down with 10 mins to go and 2-1 down with 2 mins to go make this feel like an epic result, and definately the kind we need to get into the playoffs and hopefully into league 2!  Am not getting carried away but delighted we seem to be showing some decent form at last and hope it can last for a while.

As a town fan im over the moon for him and I hope he hits the goal trail as that cow in the field has a sore rare end lol.  Seriously well done Lenny.  It sounded like we were unlucky.

Quoted from LongEatonMariner

Absolutely massive b0ll0cks shown by LJL. Wouldn't surprise me if some on here wanted him to miss as well the kind of slagging off he gets.

UTFM!

Wanted him to miss ?? Don't talk out yer bottom. Credit to him for stepping up , but up to then , he was doggi , and rodders ? What a fuckin fanny .

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Quoted from pontoonlew

I'd love it to bite me on the bottom but that's an absolutely dog excrement substitution.

Ouch!

I really thought we woukd of lost that when we went 1-0 down then 2-1 down great character to come back fromthat and tbh I didnt think woking were great at all in all truth we shoukd of been 2-0 before they scored, never mind a points a point and good goal by toukara to.

Quoted from Chrisblor

The biggest positive tonight was Tounkara actually carving out and scoring a chance for himself. He must start the next game after that. The rest of it, well I don't even know where to start. 16.9% of penalties are missed when taken by attacking players, so well done to LJL for showing such resolve in overcoming those huge odds.

If i am wrong i apologise, but i assume the fact that you have shown 'such resolve'
in italics means sarcasm, i d'ont know if you have ever played the game, but i can
assure you that total 'resolve' was required there, so give credit where credit is
due - i have seen England forwards hide in penalty shootouts, which is basically
what LJL faced tonight - well done Lenny - you deserved that moment for all the
effort you have put in this season.

Quoted from Teestogreen

Team selection tells me we're happy with a point tonight - but another Rodman special will do nicely.

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Mission accomplished - no Rodman special

Quoted from 3610

Ouch!

Not quite, though 'Tonk' scored I think bringing on Colbeck instead of Nielson is just insane. Hursts squad selections are mystfying and I don't think we can ignore that despite somehow drawing today, we were still poor and incredibly lucky in the end. Do you think any of the sides we'll face in the play-offs would allow that to happen? Hurst still has a lot to answer for.

Oh but fair play to LJL for having the skittles, but yet again we shouldn't over look an otherwise bad performance from him, again.

Quoted from petethemariner

If i am wrong i apologise, but i assume the fact that you have shown 'such resolve'
in italics means sarcasm, i d'ont know if you have ever played the game, but i can
assure you that total 'resolve' was required there, so give credit where credit is
due - i have seen England forwards hide in penalty shootouts, which is basically
what LJL faced tonight - well done Lenny - you deserved that moment for all the
effort you have put in this season.

I read it as sarcasm too. I have to say, if someone can't appreciate and enjoy something as exhilarating as a last minute vital penalty going in then I'm not sure what part of footie they do enjoy. I'm pleased to say that I can enjoy it and I'm delighted tonight.

Quoted from MeanwoodMariner

I read it as sarcasm too. I have to say, if someone can't appreciate and enjoy something as exhilarating as a last minute vital penalty going in then I'm not sure what part of footie they do enjoy. I'm pleased to say that I can enjoy it and I'm delighted tonight.

Of course i'm happy he scored and we equalised, but I don't think scoring a penalty makes up for all the chances he has missed this season.

PH very unhappy

Quoted from Southwark Mariner

PH very unhappy

Do you think he realises that his shattering of players confidence and ruining any momentum is a huge reason as to why we were excrement tonight?

Quoted from pontoonlew

Not quite, though 'Tonk' scored I think bringing on Colbeck instead of Nielson is just insane. Hursts squad selections are mystfying and I don't think we can ignore that despite somehow drawing today, we were still poor and incredibly lucky in the end. Do you think any of the sides we'll face in the play-offs would allow that to happen? Hurst still has a lot to answer for.

5 games in 11 days. I don't think it is either insane or mystifying to take a player off during this 'insane' period of the season when very important playoffs games are around the corner.

10 points out of 12- you have a lot to answer for hurst.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Of course i'm happy he scored and we equalised, but I don't think scoring a penalty makes up for all the chances he has missed this season.

I don't think anybody suggested it did, everyone just giving him credit for having the balls to take it, and rightly so.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Do you think he realises that his shattering of players confidence and ruining any momentum is a huge reason as to why we were excrement tonight?

If he'd shattered the confidence of so many players then how come we're sat comfortably in the play offs, unbeaten in 4. Woking are the form team in the league and from what I heard we were the better team and deserved a point as an absolute minimum.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

If he'd shattered the confidence of so many players then how come we're sat comfortably in the play offs, unbeaten in 4. Woking are the form team in the league and from what I heard we were the better team and deserved a point as an absolute minimum.

You are stunningly blind to whats going on with players and whats actually happening on the pitch.

Quoted from pontoonlew

You are stunningly blind to whats going on with players and whats actually happening on the pitch.

Haha - says the man ignoring the fact we're on a really good run of results. If Paddy Mac has had his confidence destroyed can you explain him coming into the team last Tuesday and scoring the winner?

It sounds ludicrous but I genuinely believe part of ypu wants us to fail so you can do your 'I told you so' routine.

We're 3rd in the league, lost twice in 10 games. Some of you need a reality check.

Quoted from 3610

5 games in 11 days. I don't think it is either insane or mystifying to take a player off during this 'insane' period of the season when very important playoffs games are around the corner.

10 points out of 12- you have a lot to answer for hurst.

First time I have used the vote up comment thingys!

Am not sure why some are so eager to bash Hurst, seem ready to scour around for something to complain about.  We still have a very busy period to come but are in a very good position now so lets focus on the positives.  To quote the oldest football cliche around you take it one game at a time, if we are in the playoff's we will be playing different teams with different levels of expectations and we shall have to play accordingly.  Tonight we played one of the form teams in the league and from twice looking at defeats came back, that suggests at least something positive to me!

We'd be upset if they'd given up. 4 points is a cushion with games in hand on the teams chasing the playoffs.

It's not that pretty, but it's doing something right.

Playing the form team in the league and came back twice to get a point, it's a good result & 1 more point to securing our play off place.

The trouble is that the old saying of 'the cream will come to the top' normally
applies in football as well, i cannot for one moment  diss the effort of the
players and coaching staff at GTFC, but we are very unimpressive in 2014,
lacking in quality and not looking like a side on the up, i just feel sadly, that
effort will not be enough, even if we do qualify for the play offs i feel we will
fall short - as usual, i always qualify this with ' i hope i am wrong'!

Quoted from pontoonlew

Do you think he realises that his shattering of players confidence and ruining any momentum is a huge reason as to why we were excrement tonight?

If what you saw tonight (if indeed you were there) equates to your definition of "shite" then I really would advise you to find a new hobby.
Over this next week we will truly see the value of rotating the squad...

Quoted from pontoonlew

You are stunningly blind to whats going on with players and whats actually happening on the pitch.

PontoonLew..confidante to all the players. His door is always open if you want to pop round for a cup of tea and shed loads of sympathy after you've had your confidence brutally shattered....

Quoted from Marinerdan

Apperently there's a Bradford scout watching Mckeown tonight.

Says who?

James McKeown any good?

Quoted from queenybantam07

Says who?

James McKeown any good?

It'll cost you some pennies to get McKeown lol

Quoted from queenybantam07

Says who?

James McKeown any good?

No he is complete crap don't waste your time and effort on him.  :P

Quoted from pontoonlew

Do you think he realises that his shattering of players confidence and ruining any momentum is a huge reason as to why we were excrement tonight?

Crikey that's very harsh. We were much the better team tonight,some of the build up play was very good again and we stopped the opposition making it 7 wins in a row.

Of course the lack of a cutting edge may come back to bite us in the play offs, but I think tonights point will be seen as one gained in the end.

On the other side of the coin, I would be very disappointed with Hurst if its true that he is angry with the fans for not feeling the same about LJL as he obviously does.Everyone around me, and indeed me didn't want him to take the penalty. So what? A striker out of "form" (although I think he is one of those players who never is actually "in" form), who cannot hit a barn door is not my idea of someone who should take a crucial penalty.

However I must applaud Lewis for having the guts to take it.  

It does makes sense.

Jon McLaughlan, our current goalie, is a liability. He's outta contract in the summer and we'll be in the market for a new one.

A lot of our fans thought it was gonna be Craig MacGillvray of Harrogate Town - watched by numerous Championship clubs - we still might sign him.

Our fans seem to think we've been watching Paddy McLaughlan too?

Quoted from Chrisblor

The biggest positive tonight was Tounkara actually carving out and scoring a chance for himself. He must start the next game after that. The rest of it, well I don't even know where to start. 16.9% of penalties are missed when taken by attacking players, so well done to LJL for showing such resolve in overcoming those huge odds.

In fairness taking a penalty as well as he did in the 95th minute requires Balotelli-esque levels of bottle to equalise in an important game.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Do you think he realises that his shattering of players confidence and ruining any momentum is a huge reason as to why we were excrement tonight?

Don't know what game you went to tonight Lew,was you there or just listening in to RH ?.   I really enjoyed it,thought we played some good football. I think people tend to watch to much premier league on the box, for me thats boring,would sooner get my ar$e to these games at BP and as many aways as possible,much more unpredictable and exciting..

Is Macca still under contract at the seasons end though? Bloody hope so
or Bradford will get him for nowt!

Quoted from queenybantam07

Our fans seem to think we've been watching Paddy McLaughlan too?

Not very often, you haven't!

Quoted from petethemariner

Is Macca still under contract at the seasons end though? Bloody hope so
or Bradford will get him for nowt!

Not anymore signed a new deal so I got told.  Not sure why its hush hush though. Hes happy and settled and his mrs is in her last year of uni.

Quoted from Meza

Not anymore signed a new deal so I got told.  Not sure why its hush hush though. Hes happy and settled and his mrs is in her last year of uni.

Oh good, at least we would get a fee for him if we d'ont go up, i think you will
find it would be hard for Macca to turn down a club the size of Bradford and i
think his missus would be finishing her uni course at either Leeds or Bradford, or
he will be buying her a car!

Quoted from wigworld

Not very often, you haven't!

We nearly signed him from Newcastle on loan a couple of years ago. He signed for York and we scouted him and almost signed him in January 2013. We've scouted him more often than not, tbh.

He seemed to go off the radar when he signed for yourselves - that coupled with our promotion.

There may be more to it, who knows?

Quoted from petethemariner

Oh good, at least we would get a fee for him if we d'ont go up, i think you will
find it would be hard for Macca to turn down a club the size of Bradford and i
think his missus would be finishing her uni course at either Leeds or Bradford, or
he will be buying her a car!

Id much us rather get a fee for him and if he does leave town I give him my best wishes great keeper.  However not until we go up lol.

Quoted from queenybantam07

We nearly signed him from Newcastle on loan a couple of years ago. He signed for York and we scouted him and almost signed him in January 2013. We've scouted him more often than not, tbh.

He seemed to go off the radar when he signed for yourselves - that coupled with our promotion.

There may be more to it, who knows?

Not good enough or fit enough, disappears out of games.

According to the York fans he was a well known sick note, much like Doig and Kerr to some extent.

Quoted from pontoonlew

Do you think he realises that his shattering of players confidence and ruining any momentum is a huge reason as to why we were excrement tonight?

Do you really think we were excrement?