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Posted by: Sigone, March 28, 2016, 2:41pm
2 changes Bogle & Robertson in
Posted by: pontoonlew, March 28, 2016, 2:49pm; Reply: 1
Glad to see Bogle given a run but by all accounts Hoban had his best game so far so a slight surprise. Horwood coming out is a surprise too unless he's injured.
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, March 28, 2016, 2:50pm; Reply: 2
Wonder if 2 games in 3 days is just a bit much for them at the moment. Neither played huge amounts of football this season.
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 2:52pm; Reply: 3
So no Pearson again.  I very much doubt Macclesfield have a quick forward.  Does Pearson deserve to be dropped.  Dont agree with Robertson the lad is crocked.  Glad to see Bogle given a go and hope Stewart gets a chance.  I hope the changes dont come to bit us on the bottom.
Posted by: mariner91, March 28, 2016, 2:55pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from Rodley Mariner
Wonder if 2 games in 3 days is just a bit much for them at the moment. Neither played huge amounts of football this season.


That would be my guess, particularly Hoban.
Posted by: LongEatonMariner, March 28, 2016, 2:55pm; Reply: 5
Let's hope we start positive but tight at the back, we don't concede an early goal and to have to chase the game.
Posted by: Hagrid, March 28, 2016, 3:07pm; Reply: 6
The Vegans are 1 up
Posted by: MarinerGaz, March 28, 2016, 3:13pm; Reply: 7
Friday game in mind as well with the changes
Posted by: grimps, March 28, 2016, 3:23pm; Reply: 8
If we don't win this then Friday's game will be meaningless
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, March 28, 2016, 3:25pm; Reply: 9
THAT'S MORE LIKE IT COME ON TOWN.
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, March 28, 2016, 3:26pm; Reply: 10
FFS
Posted by: Hagrid, March 28, 2016, 3:26pm; Reply: 11
Bloody hell 😔
Posted by: OllieGTFC, March 28, 2016, 3:27pm; Reply: 12
Wakey wakey town !!!
Posted by: zorro_is_a_Mariner, March 28, 2016, 3:30pm; Reply: 13
Ffs town we always stuggle against these girl privates
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 3:28pm; Reply: 14
Oh well.  Lol
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 3:30pm; Reply: 15
It's what separates us from FGR and Cheltenham, they don't concede goals against the run of play like we do.
Good test for us though, plenty of time to hit back.
Posted by: Davec, March 28, 2016, 3:31pm; Reply: 16
This formation with only one winger only really works against a Gary Mills type team, wrong formation to start the game in the first place
Posted by: grimps, March 28, 2016, 3:32pm; Reply: 17
Can anyone ever remember us playing well twice in the same week ?
Looks like another one of our one step forward two steps back days
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 3:33pm; Reply: 18
They are one of our worse bogey teams and they way its panning out i hope we get back in this like someone else says friday will be pointless.  I wonder if PH shares the same as we do in trying to win all games.
Posted by: Hagrid, March 28, 2016, 3:33pm; Reply: 19
Long time left yet. But it is exactly why we arent top of this league
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, March 28, 2016, 3:34pm; Reply: 20
This sounds dire.
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 3:35pm; Reply: 21
All Macclesfield at the min we aint even left the coach yet so bloody annoyjng.
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 3:36pm; Reply: 22
Braintree 1 point behind us at it stands. Played one more than us though, but puts the whole big-crowd/budget needed argument to rest.
Posted by: Davec, March 28, 2016, 3:38pm; Reply: 23
Clay off Jennings on

I said the formation wasn't right in the first place !
Posted by: Paris Mariner, March 28, 2016, 3:41pm; Reply: 24
Head - keyboard - slam
Posted by: pontoonlew, March 28, 2016, 3:43pm; Reply: 25
Something had to change, when Hurst made the change on Saturday it was to counter Wrexham tactically. Today it seems to solely be because it worked out with no tactical thought towards this game.
Posted by: MarinerGaz, March 28, 2016, 3:43pm; Reply: 26
Hoping that 1-0 down at HT, 2-1 win prediction comes to pass!
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, March 28, 2016, 3:53pm; Reply: 27
We may as well go for it now get Hoban or Stewart on.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, March 28, 2016, 3:53pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from grimps
Can anyone ever remember us playing well twice in the same week ?
Looks like another one of our one step forward two steps back days


Seem to remember us scoring 13 in a weekend last season
Posted by: Tinymariner, March 28, 2016, 3:57pm; Reply: 29
We are not playing that bad! The ref is poor and Hurst made the right change, taking Clay off, he was playing terribly.
Posted by: KK_DOG, March 28, 2016, 4:05pm; Reply: 30
Come on Town, this is a big disappointment so far. Big effort second half, early goal please.
Posted by: Garth, March 28, 2016, 4:07pm; Reply: 31
Apparently Bogle is having a mare for some reason
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 4:10pm; Reply: 32
I dont think Robertson played well either....given the ball away in the first half that nearly put us 1 down.  
Posted by: GyMariner, March 28, 2016, 4:14pm; Reply: 33
Get the new lad on
Posted by: bluebottle, March 28, 2016, 4:16pm; Reply: 34
Nolan yeeeeeeeeees
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 4:16pm; Reply: 35
Yeees
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 4:16pm; Reply: 36
YEAH!!
Posted by: zorro_is_a_Mariner, March 28, 2016, 4:19pm; Reply: 37
Radio is like 2 mins behind get innn    
Posted by: cmackenzie4, March 28, 2016, 4:17pm; Reply: 38
Get in Nolan - we're on our way.. we're on our way!
Posted by: zorro_is_a_Mariner, March 28, 2016, 4:20pm; Reply: 39
Still havent scored on radio
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 4:19pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from zorro_is_a_Mariner
Still havent scored on radio


Might be worth pressing Refresh, see if you can catch up.
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 4:20pm; Reply: 41
It all town now....arnold and dizza getting closer

Cmon town
Posted by: Hagrid, March 28, 2016, 4:21pm; Reply: 42
Come on town 1 more
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 4:26pm; Reply: 43
How do we keep doing this to ourselves?
Posted by: zorro_is_a_Mariner, March 28, 2016, 4:28pm; Reply: 44
Losing ffs town
Posted by: cmackenzie4, March 28, 2016, 4:27pm; Reply: 45
C,Mon Town.  wakey wakey!!
Posted by: GyMariner, March 28, 2016, 4:27pm; Reply: 46
We're goning to win 3-2
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 4:28pm; Reply: 47
Another goal against (sigh) the run of play. I will never ever work out how such a good, ordered defence can let in so many goals from such a small amount of chances.
Posted by: forza ivano, March 28, 2016, 4:29pm; Reply: 48
Styche..... I hate that bloke
Posted by: Mariner_09, March 28, 2016, 4:29pm; Reply: 49
At least Braintree are now losing.
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 4:30pm; Reply: 50
Styche shouldn't even be player he should be suspended after elbowing a opposition player on Saturday.
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 4:38pm; Reply: 51
Is Stewart on yet
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 4:45pm; Reply: 52
If this isn't the time to throw Stewart on I don't know what is.
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, March 28, 2016, 4:46pm; Reply: 53
Last chance saloon at the title gone me feels
Posted by: Hagrid, March 28, 2016, 4:47pm; Reply: 54
Titles been gone weeks. We arent good enougj
Posted by: dapperz fun pub, March 28, 2016, 4:49pm; Reply: 55
The title went along time ago but momentum into the play offs is what's needed, I booked my hotel today for the  play off final I'm still hopeful
Posted by: Garth, March 28, 2016, 4:50pm; Reply: 56
Quoted from Hagrid
Titles been gone weeks. We arent good enougj


We may be OK for the play offs, but not the title
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 4:50pm; Reply: 57
I dont think PH shared the same enthusiasm for the title.  I have no idea why he made changes if he says to keep players fresh its all bollox did he rest Disley, no.  He messed up and its egg on his face.

Oh well playoff it is.  
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 4:51pm; Reply: 58
Pearson on??? FFS. Hurst is a bit odd at times.
Posted by: ginnywings, March 28, 2016, 4:52pm; Reply: 59
Is anyone surprised? Hurst is the footballing equivalent of a member tease.
Posted by: Grim74, March 28, 2016, 4:52pm; Reply: 60
If I was Pearson I'd tell him to ram it.
Posted by: pontoonlew, March 28, 2016, 4:56pm; Reply: 61
You're losing, you sign a new guy and he's sat on the flipping bench whilst you put a centre back up top! Why sign him in the first place if you're not going to bother using him? Some of these loan signing absolutely baffle me.

One step forward, two steps back and it's all just predictable again.
Posted by: LH, March 28, 2016, 4:56pm; Reply: 62
Bet Cheltenham lose tonight and we win on Friday to rub salt in further.
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 4:56pm; Reply: 63
I bet any other team in any position in the League would have brought in Stewart to USE in games, particularly when chasing a 1 goal deficit in the final minutes.
It's almost like Hurst panics when he gets credit for a game, and goes against logic and basic common sense to annoy the fans.
Posted by: Garth, March 28, 2016, 4:56pm; Reply: 64
Dissapointing (wallbash)
Posted by: bawarmy, March 28, 2016, 4:59pm; Reply: 65
Quoted from pontoonlew
You're losing, you sign a new guy and he's sat on the flipping bench whilst you put a centre back up top! Why sign him in the first place if you're not going to bother using him? Some of these loan signing absolutely baffle me.

One step forward, two steps back and it's all just predictable again.


Agree the man is clueless.
Posted by: MrsMariner, March 28, 2016, 4:58pm; Reply: 66
And Forest Green drop points again just to rub salt in the wound
Posted by: Davec, March 28, 2016, 4:59pm; Reply: 67
If I was Jordan Stewart I'll be asking Paul Hurst a few questions
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, March 28, 2016, 5:00pm; Reply: 68
All I can say is Hurst gave up on the title leaving a attacking player on the bench for a defender albeit a make shift target man who does not score many ????? Totally puzzled.

Hurst sorry you got this wrong very badly wrong.
Posted by: Garth, March 28, 2016, 5:01pm; Reply: 69
Quoted from bawarmy


Agree the man is clueless.


You have to put some blame on the players, they were useless today and not being consistent spoils all the good work previously done on the Saturday
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, March 28, 2016, 5:01pm; Reply: 70
Frustration! Dissapointing!

Fgr concede in the last minute and, in all honesty, we lose the perfect opportunity to stack the pressure on the top too. It now takes all the pressure off cheltenham tonight. The games in hand now don't in reality mean a lot. 8 points dropped against far weaker opposition in the past few weeks is what has let us down. Ah, but we're probably still being spoiled
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 5:01pm; Reply: 71
Let's just hope Macc don't surge into the play-offs or we're sodomist'd. :-/
Posted by: golfer, March 28, 2016, 5:04pm; Reply: 72
  
You dont know what you,re doing !  You tried the same formation as Saturday but you didn,t play your attacking fullback to compensate for not having winger.  You didn,t play your runner. You didn,t think again .  You dont know what you,re doing.

You took the accolades on Saturday  so you,ve got to take the blame today.
Posted by: Garth, March 28, 2016, 5:03pm; Reply: 73
Will be worse if Wrexham win today
Posted by: dicko995, March 28, 2016, 5:04pm; Reply: 74
just had phone call from friend at match. Hurst has got it all wrong today, he leaves our new player on the bench when we needed him. He brings on Pearson when we are crying out for an attacker to get a result, all through the game Hurst had his arms folded while Chris Doig was going ballistic with the players, urging them on. Sorry Mr. Hurst but you have thrown the slim chance away.
Utterly gutted by the result, we are now in the play offs. The result will not affect anything on Friday against Cheltenham, the substitutions were appawling in my eyes, you never urge the players on in the game, I dearly wish we get promotion through the play offs, but I sincerely hope you are not in charge next season. I don't mind the red crosses on this, its my personal opinion and I'm sure a lot of others. Disgusted.
Posted by: oldun, March 28, 2016, 5:09pm; Reply: 75
dropped points at Gateshead, Halifax, Guisley and now Macclesfield have really done for us in the pas couple of months. 11 points!
Posted by: Bigdog, March 28, 2016, 5:10pm; Reply: 76
If and it's a big if, Town go up through the play-offs, it will be despite Hurst rather than because of Hurst. The guy is holding our club back..
Posted by: WOZOFGRIMSBY, March 28, 2016, 5:11pm; Reply: 77
(I'll still be there on Friday though) 🙄
Posted by: chaos33, March 28, 2016, 5:13pm; Reply: 78
Look, it's nothing new. We've seen it all before. It's Hurst isn't it - nobody should be surprised. And the players...? Turned up for about 20 minutes and then capitulated to a very average team with nothing to play for, who haven't managed to win at home since November! All in all, unsurprisingly pathetic.
Posted by: Mariner93er, March 28, 2016, 5:15pm; Reply: 79
Hurst did get it wrong today but my God, how are the players getting away with barely any criticism here. I saw an interview with Graeme Souness the other week were he said players get away with murder nowadays, escape a large amount of criticism which is then diverted to the manager. I can't help but feel he's right.
Posted by: davmariner, March 28, 2016, 5:18pm; Reply: 80
Shame we didn't take at least a point from this. With a difficult run of fixtures coming up I fear we'll be looking over our shoulders. Tranmere have a decent run-in and have a feeling they'll sneak into the play-offs - hopefully not at our expense.
Posted by: chaos33, March 28, 2016, 5:19pm; Reply: 81
Quoted from Mariner93er
Hurst did get it wrong today but my God, how are the players getting away with barely any criticism here. I saw an interview with Graeme Souness the other week were he said players get away with murder nowadays, escape a large amount of criticism which is then diverted to the manager. I can't help but feel he's right.


I'm sure that the supporters who suffered the non performance today will have plenty to say about the players when they return tonight. By the sounds of it, they did little to deserve that fabulous travelling backing they received today.
Posted by: Sigone, March 28, 2016, 5:19pm; Reply: 82
Quoted from davmariner
Shame we didn't take at least a point from this. With a difficult run of fixtures coming up I fear we'll be looking over our shoulders. Tranmere have a decent run-in and have a feeling they'll sneak into the play-offs - hopefully not at our expense.


It's the better teams i dont fear us playing though..The crud well that's a different story.  :B
Posted by: Garth, March 28, 2016, 5:22pm; Reply: 83
Quoted from Sigone


It's the better teams i dont fear us playing though..The crud well that's a different story.  :B


Thats all very well but its not logic is it,  and its a pattern that could easily change come the play offs
Posted by: Bigdog, March 28, 2016, 5:22pm; Reply: 84
Quoted from Mariner93er
Hurst did get it wrong today but my God, how are the players getting away with barely any criticism here. I saw an interview with Graeme Souness the other week were he said players get away with murder nowadays, escape a large amount of criticism which is then diverted to the manager. I can't help but feel he's right.


You've made a really good point there. But the manager is there to inspire confidence and set out tactics the players will believe in. If us fans find it hard to find any inspiration in Hurst, imagine how the players feel working with him day in day out. I don't think he morphs into Alex Ferguson on the training ground. He also picks the team, the formation and orders them to play to a certain style, method and shape.
Posted by: MuddyWaters, March 28, 2016, 5:26pm; Reply: 85
Some players have been tossing it off for weeks. Unfortunately, like the manager, they think they just need to get to the play offs and that will do for now.
Posted by: Mariner93er, March 28, 2016, 5:29pm; Reply: 86
Quoted from Bigdog


You've made a really good point there. But the manager is there to inspire confidence and set out tactics the players will believe in. If us fans find it hard to find any inspiration in Hurst, imagine how the players feel working with him day in day out. I don't think he morphs into Alex Ferguson on the training ground. He also picks the team, the formation and orders them to play to a certain style, method and shape.


I honestly believe the impact a manager can have on confidence is limited, with previous performances dictating it much more. And you're right, and maybe his tactics weren't correct today. But what about the other times we've failed to beat lower opposition when the tactic used has worked previously, surely that is a result of the player rather than the manager. I'm not saying Hurst should avoid criticism, but I do feel he is really let down by the players on days like this.
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 5:33pm; Reply: 87
It'd be great if we could take off one of these under performing players and put a new, chomping at the bit player, eager to prove himself in their place.
Sort of substituting one player for another in a (get this bit!) tactical way.

It could take off, who knows.
Posted by: Sigone, March 28, 2016, 5:36pm; Reply: 88
Quoted from Garth


Thats all very well but its not logic is it,  and its a pattern that could easily change come the play offs


Football is never logical...Seems that when the players feel a challenge they rise to it..Motivation from either the management team OR the players individually(collectively)  should be called into question.
Posted by: Bigdog, March 28, 2016, 5:39pm; Reply: 89
Quoted from Mariner93er


I honestly believe the impact a manager can have on confidence is limited, with previous performances dictating it much more. And you're right, and maybe his tactics weren't correct today. But what about the other times we've failed to beat lower opposition when the tactic used has worked previously, surely that is a result of the player rather than the manager. I'm not saying Hurst should avoid criticism, but I do feel he is really let down by the players on days like this.


I meant players personal confidence in team selection, management of squad, signings, formation etc. Results and performances do breed confidence though. It's more about whether the players fully buy into his decisions. I think scraping a few wins has papered over the cracks since Halifax. The Bogle outburst was clear evidence that the squad's faith in Hurst's decisions was running a little thin. It has left us brittle when it comes to performances and I'm worried that a team like Tranmere will have the real momentum going into the play offs.
Posted by: Mrs Doyle, March 28, 2016, 5:43pm; Reply: 90
Quoted from RoboCod
It'd be great if we could take off one of these under performing players and put a new, chomping at the bit player, eager to prove himself in their place.
Sort of substituting one player for another in a (get this bit!) tactical way.

It could take off, who knows.


Jordan Stewart???

Posted by: gaz57, March 28, 2016, 5:43pm; Reply: 91
Quoted from MuddyWaters
Some players have been tossing it off for weeks. Unfortunately, like the manager, they think they just need to get to the play offs and that will do for now.


That's the problem with the manager he always talk about the playoffs and Wembley  so I believe that's the route he's taken. Glory hunting at Wembley.  :-/
Posted by: carrot top, March 28, 2016, 5:44pm; Reply: 92
I think Tranmere could just miss out. Eastleigh are making a late push and I see it being between Town, Braintree, Dover and them to make the playoffs. We are not guaranteed a place!
If we lose Friday it will give the teams below a chance to close the gap
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 5:44pm; Reply: 93
I think sometines the changes to a winning team may have had a negative effect mentally.  Imagine having a stormer then dropped how do the other players react.  Like that.

We need a new manager with fresh ideas as PH imo has gone stale.  How can JF defend him is beyond.  I wonder if JF ever thinks why PH.
Posted by: Mariner93er, March 28, 2016, 5:49pm; Reply: 94
If Cheltenham lose to Wrexham, not that much has actually changed from the start of the day, apart from there being one game less. Bromleys late equaliser could actually be quite useful (still dreaming)
Posted by: HertsGTFC, March 28, 2016, 5:50pm; Reply: 95
Well done to the 900+ that went today, another great effort from the fans and one that deserves more from both management and players TBH.

Could not go today as had to choose between today and Friday so difficult to comment on what we did/ did not do or should have done etc..  

The title was probably gone in the period between the August BH (when we again lost to Macclesfield) and the end of September when we took 11 points from 21, bridging that gap has proved too much.

I don't know what the solution is but I know that this is difficult to take, especially when FGR drop points. Maybe we should have gone to Macclesfield today set up not to lose and anything else would have been a bonus.

Hurst Out? Not yet but ultimately that feels like the only way forward. I just wonder what Gary Mills would do with our squad?      
Posted by: Hagrid, March 28, 2016, 6:01pm; Reply: 96
Pahahahahah wrexham winning!! Unbelievable
Posted by: HertsGTFC, March 28, 2016, 6:04pm; Reply: 97
Quoted from Hagrid
Pahahahahah wrexham winning!! Unbelievable


FFS.........

Posted by: ackomariner, March 28, 2016, 6:21pm; Reply: 98
Quoted from HertsGTFC
Well done to the 900+ that went today, another great effort from the fans and one that deserves more from both management and players TBH.

Could not go today as had to choose between today and Friday so difficult to comment on what we did/ did not do or should have done etc..  

The title was probably gone in the period between the August BH (when we again lost to Macclesfield) and the end of September when we took 11 points from 21, bridging that gap has proved too much.


I don't know what the solution is but I know that this is difficult to take, especially when FGR drop points. Maybe we should have gone to Macclesfield today set up not to lose and anything else would have been a bonus.

Hurst Out? Not yet but ultimately that feels like the only way forward. I just wonder what Gary Mills would do with our squad?      


Correct, and that's not good enough. Being spoilt springs to mind  :)
Posted by: Hagrid, March 28, 2016, 6:23pm; Reply: 99
Would not want Gary Mills as our manager. Think he's serioulsy overrated based on 1 season at york
Posted by: HertsGTFC, March 28, 2016, 6:27pm; Reply: 100
Quoted from Hagrid
Would not want Gary Mills as our manager. Think he's serioulsy overrated based on 1 season at york


Possibly but realistically if we changed who would we get in? Someone with a decent level of experience and who has achieved some success would always be worth looking at.  

When the "Hurst out" debate starts as it always does when we lose we don't often hear many "realistic" nominations to take over.

  

Posted by: Davec, March 28, 2016, 6:29pm; Reply: 101
The thing what lets Gary Mills down is his signings, his player recruitment is quite poor, but tactically he's very good
Posted by: oldun, March 28, 2016, 6:32pm; Reply: 102
Quoted from RoboCod
I bet any other team in any position in the League would have brought in Stewart to USE in games, particularly when chasing a 1 goal deficit in the final minutes.
It's almost like Hurst panics when he gets credit for a game, and goes against logic and basic common sense to annoy the fans.


Think about it  Robo, there is about 5 mins to go, we set out to launch it long and high into their box. Pearson is the obvious choice. Jordan Stewart is about 4 foot 2, he would not get a touch. Get off PH's back, the players did not perform today although had chances to get more goals. Also he did change the shape after 38 mins.
Posted by: FishOutOfWater, March 28, 2016, 6:36pm; Reply: 103
Quoted from Hagrid
Pahahahahah wrexham winning!! Unbelievable


1-1 now

Cheltenham won't bottle their challenge for top spot I'm sure...looking back to when they turned us over in October you knew in your heart of hearts they could and probably would take the title

We just need to make sure if / when we get to the play-offs that we have a few games with Wrexham-like performances in us otherwise days like today will mean we'll be back at Macc again next season :-/
Posted by: barralad, March 28, 2016, 6:37pm; Reply: 104
Quoted from oldun


Think about it  Robo, there is about 5 mins to go, we set out to launch it long and high into their box. Pearson is the obvious choice. Jordan Stewart is about 4 foot 2, he would not get a touch. Get off PH's back, the players did not perform today although had chances to get more goals. Also he did change the shape after 38 mins.


Absolutely spot on. I thought the new lad was a mascot he's that small. Not the sort of game for a debut. Had he come on and done badly some on here would have been baying for his blood.
Posted by: Davec, March 28, 2016, 6:37pm; Reply: 105
Oldun why not shove Toto or something up top and bring on Stewart for Tait ?

Leaving Pearson on the bench
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 6:40pm; Reply: 106
Or why not leave the team as it was.  
Posted by: oldun, March 28, 2016, 6:40pm; Reply: 107
Quoted from Davec
Oldun why not shove Toto or something up top and bring on Stewart for Tait ?

Leaving Pearson on the bench


He did take Tait off. Putting Pearson on gave us extra height up top. He nearly set up an equaliser too.
Posted by: Davec, March 28, 2016, 6:47pm; Reply: 108
I know he brought Tait off, what I'm saying shove Toto up top and bring Stewart on for Tait

Fact remains Stewart should have been on anyway as soon as they went 2-1 up

Hurst got his team selection and tactics wrong.
Posted by: hippo130, March 28, 2016, 6:48pm; Reply: 109
I don't often post on these forums for fear of being ripped apart for having an opinion. I do get very confused reading them sometimes though.

Hurst is wrong for not putting Bogle in, who lets be honest is not having a good time of it at the moment, only then to be criticized for changing the team that played on Saturday.

I've heard people say that Hurst coaches the attacking instincts out of players but we have the top goalscorer in the league and are one of the highest scoring teams in the league.

I've heard people call for Hurst's head on a plate if we fail to beat a team, even though it is a draw in the middle of a run of 9 games unbeaten. I've even heard people say he should be sacked because we have only one a game by one goal.

Every one has an opinion on who they would like to replace Hurst if he was to go but some of the names mentioned are laughable, Gary Mills being the prime example, when he was at Gateshead he set his team up to cheat and play dirty and I personally have no interest in watching a Grimsby team play like that.

I don't think some people would be happy even if we had Pep Guardiola or Sir Alex in his prime as manager at the club and I think some people on here want to see Town fail just so they could have a moan.

I am a Town fan and want them to win and be successful and I will be behind them all the way all the time no matter what. We can still get promoted this season we just have to all be pulling in the same direction, lets leave the negativity till the end of the season and have a good old moan or hopefully double celebration then.

Anyway that my two pennies worth let the ripping apart commence.

UTM!!!!!!
Posted by: barralad, March 28, 2016, 6:49pm; Reply: 110
Christ on a bike it comes to something where people are looking so hard for something to blame Hurst for that we are concentrating on the rights and wrongs of the last throw of the dice. We are talking about five minutes FFS.
Posted by: golfer, March 28, 2016, 7:04pm; Reply: 111
Quoted from HertsGTFC


Possibly but realistically if we changed who would we get in? Someone with a decent level of experience and who has achieved some success would always be worth looking at.  

When the "Hurst out" debate starts as it always does when we lose we don't often hear many "realistic" nominations to take over.

  


    
     I would have nominated myself but I dont have the managerial know how as Hurst............on second thoughts....
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 7:04pm; Reply: 112
McDermott and Buckley for me
Posted by: RoboCod, March 28, 2016, 7:13pm; Reply: 113
Quoted from oldun


Think about it  Robo, there is about 5 mins to go, we set out to launch it long and high into their box. Pearson is the obvious choice. Jordan Stewart is about 4 foot 2, he would not get a touch. Get off PH's back, the players did not perform today although had chances to get more goals. Also he did change the shape after 38 mins.


So what IS he here for? Wrexham at home deemed too tough for his debut. Away at Macc..nope. Away at leaders Cheltenham onTV? pretty tough debut....caution reigns with Hurst.

I disagree with you guys, and your opinion is highly valued by myself, but to talk of Pearson coming on as some kind of planned Plan B as opposed to some very nippy run-at-them wide man is not convincing me, especially as we are hopeless at launching set pieces onto our players heads, no matter what their height/ability, as shown by our final corner that went over everybody.
Posted by: golfer, March 28, 2016, 7:18pm; Reply: 114
  Hippo....You dont expect a manager to keep the same team throughout the season but they normally change a team after a bad performance not after a game like Saturdays.He will pretend to himself that the players needed a rest....... for gods sake   The dabbler has to dabble again..
Posted by: Bigdog, March 28, 2016, 7:18pm; Reply: 115
Quoted from barralad
Christ on a bike it comes to something where people are looking so hard for something to blame Hurst for that we are concentrating on the rights and wrongs of the last throw of the dice. We are talking about five minutes FFS.


Barra I agree with a lot of your posts but.. those five minutes are a microcosm of the past five years.
Posted by: Rodley Mariner, March 28, 2016, 7:31pm; Reply: 116
Quoted from Meza
McDermott and Buckley for me


So the Assistant Manager of Harrogate Town and a guy who hasn't managed in nearly a decade and hasn't had any success in nearly two?
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, March 28, 2016, 7:34pm; Reply: 117
Quoted from HertsGTFC
When the "Hurst out" debate starts as it always does when we lose we don't often hear many "realistic" nominations to take over.

Marcus Bignot - Solihull Moors, currently 12 points advantage at the top of the National North, although played two games more.  Maybe he can get Bogle firing like he did the last few seasons.

I would of said John McDermott at Harrogate, but they have LLDDL their last 5 games, so might not achieve the playoffs yet.
Posted by: mariner91, March 28, 2016, 7:39pm; Reply: 118
Cheltenham just let in a last minute goal. With Forest Green doing the same at lowly Bromley this is a huge missed opportunity today and has cost us any chance of the title.
Posted by: chaos33, March 28, 2016, 7:43pm; Reply: 119
Actually 91, I disagree. You could argue that it means that we are in with the same chance tonight as we were before today's game. FGR have gained a point on us. That's all.
Posted by: easypeersy, March 28, 2016, 7:51pm; Reply: 120
I see Cheltenham lost and Forest Green only drew so nothing much changed between the top three teams.
It's not as if we were ever going to get to the end of the season winning every single match.
Anyone who thinks that - Dream on!!!!
Once Wrexham beat Forest Green and we beat Cheltenham we then start to climb to the peak with winning our easy games in hand.
If we don't get there, play offs will be more excitement!
Come on you mighty Mariners.
Come on you supporters - Get off our Managers back!
Posted by: LH, March 28, 2016, 7:50pm; Reply: 121
Quoted from LH
Bet Cheltenham lose tonight and we win on Friday to rub salt in further.


::)
Posted by: mariner91, March 28, 2016, 7:51pm; Reply: 122
Quoted from chaos33
Actually 91, I disagree. You could argue that it means that we are in with the same chance tonight as we were before today's game. FGR have gained a point on us. That's all.


I can see the logic but we're rapidly running out of games to bridge the gulf and today, against a limited team with little to play for in front of lots of Town fans, was a great chance that we've blown. If we'd won today we'd have gone to Cheltenham on Friday with them shitting themselves!
Posted by: Mariner93er, March 28, 2016, 7:54pm; Reply: 123
They clearly are starting to excrement themselves. Before recent weeks their form was faultless, now it's not looking so rosy, still a slight chance for us yet
Posted by: ackomariner, March 28, 2016, 7:58pm; Reply: 124
Quoted from mariner91


I can see the logic but we're rapidly running out of games to bridge the gulf and today, against a limited team with little to play for in front of lots of Town fans, was a great chance that we've blown. If we'd won today we'd have gone to Cheltenham on Friday with them shitting themselves!


Spot on, missed opportunity today but no great surprise tbh
Posted by: UFindusMariner, March 28, 2016, 8:00pm; Reply: 125
Very frustrating!

The chasing pack are closing in again, I still think we will have enough to get into the play-offs but I don't want to stumble in them without much form/momentum and I am not convinced that we won't have another stinker like Halifax and today :/

Hopefully we can add to the Cheltenham choke on Friday and make things interesting
Posted by: Meza, March 28, 2016, 8:02pm; Reply: 126
How many games do we need FGR and Chelts to lose if and i say that whilst laughing if we won all our remaining games.  We are clinging on by a thin thread.  I just want us out this crap league and bring some success back to the club.  We had anything to cheer for a very long time.  
Posted by: easypeersy, March 28, 2016, 8:11pm; Reply: 127
Would be a real disappointment if we catch Cheltenham up but they go up on goal difference!
Posted by: easypeersy, March 28, 2016, 8:13pm; Reply: 128
I think the match at Cheltenham is absolutely massive and if we win then there is still that thread of hope.
Lose or draw it and it's Play Offs for sure!
I reckon it'll be a draw personally.
Posted by: UFindusMariner, March 28, 2016, 8:23pm; Reply: 129
Nothing is guaranteed at the moment, we should have the games in hand and the quality in the squad to secure a top 3 finish without too much worry tbh.

Just have to get behind the boys on Friday, Cheltenham will be a tough ask but I don't think we should go there and fear them, player for player I think we are on par, mentally they may be more fragile than us at the moment.
Posted by: chaos33, March 28, 2016, 8:21pm; Reply: 130
Quoted from mariner91


I can see the logic but we're rapidly running out of games to bridge the gulf and today, against a limited team with little to play for in front of lots of Town fans, was a great chance that we've blown. If we'd won today we'd have gone to Cheltenham on Friday with them shitting themselves!


I know mate. I meant to say that statistically we are in with roughly the same chance of the title (albeit a further point behind FGR),  not actually. We won't win the title I don't think, regardless of the teasing, numerical scope.
The thing that's especially galling is that this looks like the year when chance after chance to make a claim on top spot has presented itself. This hasn't really happened to us before. Unfortunately we have squandered opportunity after opportunity, and usually against 'nothing' teams. That has.

Hurst hasn't got it in him to take is to that level, and neither have most of the players, evidently.

If only it was the fans that won promotion eh.....

Did Hurst do a post match interview?
Posted by: easypeersy, March 28, 2016, 8:26pm; Reply: 131
I think the match at Cheltenham is absolutely massive and if we win then there is still that thread of hope.
Lose or draw it and it's Play Offs for sure!
I reckon it'll be a draw personally.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, March 28, 2016, 8:32pm; Reply: 132
Quoted from Nelly GTFC

Marcus Bignot - Solihull Moors, currently 12 points advantage at the top of the National North, although played two games more.  Maybe he can get Bogle firing like he did the last few seasons.

I would of said John McDermott at Harrogate, but they have LLDDL their last 5 games, so might not achieve the playoffs yet.


Would you not want someone who has achieved success at our level or above. Hurst and Scott had a good record at a lower level.

I would love Macca as Manager but is he not assistant at Harrogate? Massive gamble that. John Still would have done it for me but he as a southerner would not move North and would be massively unpopular as soon as we had a poor result.
Posted by: mariner91, March 28, 2016, 8:51pm; Reply: 133
Quoted from chaos33


I know mate. I meant to say that statistically we are in with roughly the same chance of the title (albeit a further point behind FGR),  not actually. We won't win the title I don't think, regardless of the teasing, numerical scope.
The thing that's especially galling is that this looks like the year when chance after chance to make a claim on top spot has presented itself. This hasn't really happened to us before. Unfortunately we have squandered opportunity after opportunity, and usually against 'nothing' teams. That has.

Hurst hasn't got it in him to take is to that level, and neither have most of the players, evidently.

If only it was the fans that won promotion eh.....

Did Hurst do a post match interview?


Not heard it if he has. My worry is that if Amond's goalscoring dries up then we're finished because we have no other threat really. He's a brilliant striker but I'd be very surprised if he can keep going at the rate he has been doing since November which is extremely troubling for our play off hopes.
Posted by: FishOutOfWater, March 28, 2016, 9:04pm; Reply: 134
Quoted from chaos33


I know mate. I meant to say that statistically we are in with roughly the same chance of the title (albeit a further point behind FGR),  not actually. We won't win the title I don't think, regardless of the teasing, numerical scope.
The thing that's especially galling is that this looks like the year when chance after chance to make a claim on top spot has presented itself. This hasn't really happened to us before. Unfortunately we have squandered opportunity after opportunity, and usually against 'nothing' teams. That has.

Hurst hasn't got it in him to take is to that level, and neither have most of the players, evidently.

If only it was the fans that won promotion eh.....

Did Hurst do a post match interview?


Yeah he did Chaos

In short he said he was unhappy

Unhappy with how we didn't perform in the first half so that's why he changed things early (and admitted that he doesn't usually make such changes )

Even more unhappy with the officials and said their second was way offside and even the Macc bench couldn't believe how they got away with it

He was asked too about the changes and said Hoban out / Bogle in was owing to Pat having given his all but today might have been too tiring whereas Omar was chomping at the bit so deserved his chance. Said he'd get criticism whichever way but the changes didn't affect the team
Posted by: friskneymariner, March 28, 2016, 9:10pm; Reply: 135
Quoted from mariner91


Not heard it if he has. My worry is that if Amond's goalscoring dries up then we're finished because we have no other threat really. He's a brilliant striker but I'd be very surprised if he can keep going at the rate he has been doing since November which is extremely troubling for our play off hopes.


That is my fear, and has been all season,we have no strong  pacey  winger running onto loose balls in the area.This is especially apparent at corners.
Posted by: Nelly GTFC, March 28, 2016, 10:26pm; Reply: 136
Quoted from Nelly GTFC
Marcus Bignot - Solihull Moors, currently 12 points advantage at the top of the National North, although played two games more.  Maybe he can get Bogle firing like he did the last few seasons.

I would of said John McDermott at Harrogate, but they have LLDDL their last 5 games, so might not achieve the playoffs yet.
Quoted from HertsGTFC
Would you not want someone who has achieved success at our level or above. Hurst and Scott had a good record at a lower level.

I would love Macca as Manager but is he not assistant at Harrogate? Massive gamble that. John Still would have done it for me but he as a southerner would not move North and would be massively unpopular as soon as we had a poor result.
If we can get someone decent that is available yes.  I've said it before, no offense to them, but the Town board will never take the opportunity to grab a decent manager if one was available, it's just the way it is.  We could of had Micky Mellon a couple of seasons ago when he left as assistant of Barnsley December 2013, ends up at Shrewsbury at the end of 2013/14, gets them promoted and even though they're 17th in league one, they haven't lost a match in 9 games.

Hurst just does enough in our league to keep him in his job in the eyes of the Town board, we have had a fairly easy ride to the FA Trophy final, it's a total Mickey Mouse cup, it's not a massive achievement and if we don't win promotion, it will just be a glory day out for 12,000 people who can't be bothered to turn up at Blundell Park week in, week out.
Posted by: HertsGTFC, March 28, 2016, 10:59pm; Reply: 137
Quoted from Nelly GTFC
[/quote]If we can get someone decent that is available yes.  I've said it before, no offense to them, but the Town board will never take the opportunity to grab a decent manager if one was available, it's just the way it is.  We could of had Micky Mellon a couple of seasons ago when he left as assistant of Barnsley December 2013, ends up at Shrewsbury at the end of 2013/14, gets them promoted and even though they're 17th in league one, they haven't lost a match in 9 games.

Hurst just does enough in our league to keep him in his job in the eyes of the Town board, we have had a fairly easy ride to the FA Trophy final, it's a total Mickey Mouse cup, it's not a massive achievement and if we don't win promotion, it will just be a glory day out for 12,000 people who can't be bothered to turn up at Blundell Park week in, week out.


I could not agree more to be honest mate.........Though based upon this year 12,000 for the FAT final is optimistic I reckon, but there will be some week in week out fans in whatever numbers we take.

The FAT has cost me this year as a season ticket holder living South I find night games difficult to get to and there have been more this term due to FAT postponements..........Will I be at the final? Only if we win there the week before I'm afraid.    
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