Ian Holloway's after match interview.

Don't think that link is set up quite right. Copying and pasting works fine though, thanks.

Ah, I see you've missed off the h at the beginning of https.

Listening now.

Quoted from Maringer

Don't think that link is set up quite right. Copying and pasting works fine though, thanks.

Ah, I see you've missed off the h at the beginning of https.

Listening now.

Didn't move the cursor across enough. Should never let me near a computer.

Pre match ...... oh the irony.

https://twitter.com/humbersidesport/status/1338537990113488896?s=21

Well he answered one question he voted against accepting Mays money so all you over the top extra excitable people can calm down a little hopefully

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Well he answered one question he voted against accepting Mays money so all you over the top extra excitable people can calm down a little hopefully

Of course he did... if the story hadn’t broke at the weekend Mr May’s deal would have been accepted

He’d have been finished had he voted for it, so are we really surprised at that?

Sounded a bit less manic than in some post-match interviews I've heard of late. He obviously recognises what needs to change about the team (and has admitted where he's gone wrong). Is the current squad capable of this, however? Is he?

Unsurprisingly, very defensive about the role of the board (and his own actions) in the May controversy and echoing the call for Shutes (or whoever) to step forward now. If the current form continues to the end of the year, the price will certainly be dropping...

2020 is getting crapper, isn't it?

He voted No. So we can put that to bed.

I honestly believe he's a guy with massive integrity, he's made mistakes and has admitted as much. Is he the answer I don't know.

seemed to have a bit of a dig at the .Holy Trinity.'
don't nail your colours to the wrong mast Ian!

also mentioned about trying to change the style too much. i've been saying for  acouple of weeks that we really need an eleven men behind the ball in a boring, battling 0-0 draw, just to get a bit of cohesion and confidence

Sounded like David Brent to me utm

What I found interesting was what he said with Halford and wanting him to show some proof, as he does with all the players(apparently), perhaps why macca was dropped? This didn't stop Southend from signing him and the man himself getting them a goal and what could be a valuable 3 points.

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Well he answered one question he voted against accepting Mays money so all you over the top extra excitable people can calm down a little hopefully

I expect every sodomist voted against it after the excrement had already hit the fan, I want to know if he knew about it before last weekend because I will never believe that Monday's board meeting was the first time it was ever mentioned

Very honest interview I thought.

Quoted from Plankton

What I found interesting was what he said with Halford and wanting him to show some proof, as he does with all the players(apparently), perhaps why macca was dropped? This didn't stop Southend from signing him and the man himself getting them a goal and what could be a valuable 3 points.

Halford didn't want to do it but it says a lot about the standard of our players fitness given they can't perform for 90 minutes.

Quoted from Plankton

What I found interesting was what he said with Halford and wanting him to show some proof, as he does with all the players(apparently), perhaps why macca was dropped? This didn't stop Southend from signing him and the man himself getting them a goal and what could be a valuable 3 points.

Will be the pre season fitness test that he claims to have done at every club

Quoted from Madeleymariner

Well he answered one question he voted against accepting Mays money so all you over the top extra excitable people can calm down a little hopefully

Yes he did but as I understand it was at the latest board meeting after the outcry which all the board voted not to accept May's money.

Sadly he wasn't asked the question, did he know about May's past, and if May had been at the ground over several weeks then I assume the board must have been thinking of accepting his cash otherwise what was he doing there?

He also sounded like he was disappointed the money wasn't coming in and getting a new training ground and he wasn't that convinced at the thought of Shutes and Co. coming in either as he wasn't bothered about the regeneration of the Town which may well give us the new ground that we have been waiting 25 years for.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Very honest interview I thought.

I’m with you on that one. I’m not the Red Cross. He still sounds passionate and like he says, if he fell in a barrel of mammaries he come out sucking his thumb at the minute.

Quoted from Mikey_345

Very honest interview I thought.

Did you expect him to lie?

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Halford didn't want to do it but it says a lot about the standard of our players fitness given they can't perform for 90 minutes.

There are caveats as to why he wouldn't want to. I don't doubt fitness could have played a part, however, he's walked straight into Southend and scored. It's an observation mainly.

It was utter rubbish

Quoted from forza ivano

i've been saying for  acouple of weeks that we really need an eleven men behind the ball in a boring, battling 0-0 draw, just to get a bit of cohesion and confidence

Has he ever set up a team that way though? The Hurst's and Jolley's of this world have a defensive mindset, they build their teams from the back and set their stall out not to concede. That's anathema to Holloway, for him playing expansive, intricate, passing football is the purpose of the exercise. Even when it's not working he wants to keep signing players until it does.

Listening for a second time and focusing on the second half of the interview. I do genuinely believe he wants to sort our club and is an out and out footballing man. He seems to want to create something at Grimsby, which sounds positive, but we don't know what these ambitions can be materialised as. He seems very realistic and knows the foundations(fans) are solid and can build upon that. Maybe he wants to take the club on at some point and that's the true ambition?

Course he voted no . Bet they all did when the proverbial hit the fan .
Oh and if Williams has got Covid he wants to be straight back the the training ground and mixing with the entire squad so we have to isolate for 14 days to give us time to regroup.

I bet he doesn’t pop up on SSN anytime soon either

I think for better or worse, IH  could walk if JF went.  I think the relationship was very significant in IH coming to Blundell.

I don’t doubt his integrity.  I don’t doubt his desire. I have no doubt there have been big errors made, particularly with the benefit of hindsight.  
And things can change very quickly - a week ago inexperienced, non league players who weren’t fit and ready, were typically headless panic decisions made after a late start to recruitment.  Now Jackson Jnr is the successor to Newport’s talisman.

I think - and it comes through in the last 2/3 post match interviews - he is accepting of his mistakes, he is (now) accepting the gravity of the situation, his appreciation of this level of football has been well and truly rammed home, we need some good fortune. I believe in his determination to get it right.

If you believe JF and IH should go, so be it.   But as far as pitch matters are concerned I THINK IH should continue.

Those who disagree, a list of those who would welcome the challenge would be very instructive.

I don’t buy that nobody would want to take over as manager, particularly if Fenty goes we’re a far more attractive proposition.

Let’s face it, our performances other than maybe three or four halves this season have been about as bad as we’ve ever seen. I really doubt we could get much worse as we have no goal threat and gift goals literally every game. The squad is also devoid of quality. You’ve essentially got a free hit as manager. If you can keep this lot up then your stock rises massively. If you can’t, well look at the mess you inherited giving you no chance.

Quoted from Maringer

Sounded a bit less manic than in some post-match interviews I've heard of late. He obviously recognises what needs to change about the team (and has admitted where he's gone wrong). Is the current squad capable of this, however? Is he?

Unsurprisingly, very defensive about the role of the board (and his own actions) in the May controversy and echoing the call for Shutes (or whoever) to step forward now. If the current form continues to the end of the year, the price will certainly be dropping...

I got the feeling he’s trying to sort buying a house up here and wants to know if new owners do come in, he’s got a job.

2020 is getting crapper, isn't it?

Quoted from louth_in_the_south

Course he voted no . Bet they all did when the proverbial hit the fan .
Oh and if Williams has got Covid he wants to be straight back the the training ground and mixing with the entire squad so we have to isolate for 14 days to give us time to regroup.

i was thinking exactly the same thing. just a shame isolation has now been reduced to 10 days!

Quoted from forza ivano

i was thinking exactly the same thing. just a shame isolation has now been reduced to 10 days!

I think a period of 6 months isolation might benefit us, in fact 6 months for everyone and stop the season now while we are not in the bottom two

Usual bluster from Holloway I thought.  Was waiting for him to start blaming the red card.

Clearly frustrated and it's better that he's accepting our shortcomings rather than constant excuses but the questions aren't about what's going wrong, we can all see that, they're about what we're doing to fix them.

As always, pinch of salt but if you give this guy a microphone he's always going to spill enough out.  Thought it was telling about the training ground.  Can't recall the exact wording but I read it that we're looking to move from Cheapside to somewhere else.  

Few bits on Twitter have cropped up about the training ground.  Do we own the land at Cheapside?

Quoted from diehardmariner

Usual bluster from Holloway I thought.  Was waiting for him to start blaming the red card.

Clearly frustrated and it's better that he's accepting our shortcomings rather than constant excuses but the questions aren't about what's going wrong, we can all see that, they're about what we're doing to fix them.

As always, pinch of salt but if you give this guy a microphone he's always going to spill enough out.  Thought it was telling about the training ground.  Can't recall the exact wording but I read it that we're looking to move from Cheapside to somewhere else.  

Few bits on Twitter have cropped up about the training ground.  Do we own the land at Cheapside?

It sounded to me like May's money for a new training ground quite appealed to him or rather it did before the excrement hit the fan and everyone had to vote against it to save face

“He wants to genuinely create something at Grimsby”.

Well, I would like to sleep with Miss World, but George Best got there first.

Our manager is primarily responsible for us not achieving his football aims.  For a very experienced and capable manager in the past, his football decisions have ranged from baffling to very poor. All this on a consistent basis.  We are getting worse.

What recent evidence is there of substance that we can entrust the Club’s future to him?  However well-meaning his intentions are?  He looks to me to be floundering.  Not all of his own making.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Few bits on Twitter have cropped up about the training ground.  Do we own the land at Cheapside?

I don’t think we lease it. I’m not sure if “we” own it as a club or JF personally. Something in my head tells me Mr. Fenty owns it.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

“He wants to genuinely create something at Grimsby”.

Well, I would like to sleep with Miss World, but George Best got there first.

Our manager is primarily responsible for us not achieving his football aims.  For a very experienced and capable manager in the past, his football decisions have ranged from baffling to very poor. All this on a consistent basis.  We are getting worse.

What recent evidence is there of substance that we can entrust the Club’s future to him?  However well-meaning his intentions are?  He looks to me to be floundering.  Not all of his own making.

She would probably agree now.

Quoted from HistonMariner

I think for better or worse, IH  could walk if JF went.  I think the relationship was very significant in IH coming to Blundell.

I don’t doubt his integrity.  I don’t doubt his desire. I have no doubt there have been big errors made, particularly with the benefit of hindsight.  
And things can change very quickly - a week ago inexperienced, non league players who weren’t fit and ready, were typically headless panic decisions made after a late start to recruitment.  Now Jackson Jnr is the successor to Newport’s talisman.

I think - and it comes through in the last 2/3 post match interviews - he is accepting of his mistakes, he is (now) accepting the gravity of the situation, his appreciation of this level of football has been well and truly rammed home, we need some good fortune. I believe in his determination to get it right.

If you believe JF and IH should go, so be it.   But as far as pitch matters are concerned I THINK IH should continue.

Those who disagree, a list of those who would welcome the challenge would be very instructive.

This comment comes up everytime some fans suggest the current incumbent should be replaced but I don't think we have ever had a shortage of applicants. I don't have access to those currently out of work but I am sure there are plenty who would love to work at GTFC.

Quoted from diehardmariner

Can't recall the exact wording but I read it that we're looking to move from Cheapside to somewhere else.  

Few bits on Twitter have cropped up about the training ground.  Do we own the land at Cheapside?

I asked the same question a few months back when Lucarlys closed down. That place has enough land for three full size pitches, huge changing rooms and the clubhouse which could be used for exactly what it was designed for, putting entertainment on which could raise further coffers to go in the bank.

He sounded utterly dejected and it will be very difficult for him to motivate the players to perform any better then they are doing.

I think the main problem is not one of motivation, but of quality. We just don't have enough quality players in the team.  We have players making daft mistakes, giving away silly free licks, giving away possession, failing to mark opponents effectively, and picking up needless cards. It's not because they don't want to win. It's because they are just not very good players. I think Gary Croft recently expressed the opinion that several of our players are simply not professional standard.

So why do we have so many of them?  Well it's the same old problem we have had for years. We won't invest the funds needed to attract players who are good enough. Ok, so we could change manager again. Sack the manager for the fourth time in as many years.  But if an incoming manger has to work with this squad what difference would it really make. They would probably be able to bring in a few journeymen that no one else wants. Would that change anything?

Holloway signed a dozen players in close season. So he can't blame anyone  for that, but on the other hand he had to work within a budget which it seems would not allow us to attract enough quality into the squad.  It might have helped if our board were not so hapless that they let one of our most promising players slip through our fingers through administrative incompetence.

Something has to change, and change dramatically if we are not to slip into a desperate relegation fight. I would say that, if possible, we send back the various loanees that are poor performers. Buy out the contracts of our senior injury prone 'strikers' who hardly ever play. This would make room in the playing budget to bring in new blood.

I think we need at least four quality additions to make us anywhere near competitive.  We could do with a new spine of competent, experienced, fit and quality players; a keeper who can dominate their area, a commanding center half,  a creative midfield leader and a forward who is a real goal threat.

The problem is that these players would not be free transfers. For once we would actually have to buy. If the current board are not willing to invest, then we are doomed whoever the manager is.                  

What we need is a good big striker on loan who is fit and ready to go.

He will bring Jackson on who already has an eye for goal.

Then we need another big centre half who will organise the rest of the defence.

If Ollie let's Macca play his normal game he will be fine if not we need a good experience keeper as giving a penalty away and one through his legs Russell needs to go back to coaching.

A midfield General will make possibly four coming in so Ollie will need about seven or eight going out maybe some of them on loan.

I only hope they are all fit and not injury prone.

Quoted from RonMariner

He sounded utterly dejected and it will be very difficult for him to motivate the players to perform any better then they are doing.

I think the main problem is not one of motivation, but of quality. We just don't have enough quality players in the team.  We have players making daft mistakes, giving away silly free licks, giving away possession, failing to mark opponents effectively, and picking up needless cards. It's not because they don't want to win. It's because they are just not very good players. I think Gary Croft recently expressed the opinion that several of our players are simply not professional standard.

So why do we have so many of them?  Well it's the same old problem we have had for years. We won't invest the funds needed to attract players who are good enough. Ok, so we could change manager again. Sack the manager for the fourth time in as many years.  But if an incoming manger has to work with this squad what difference would it really make. They would probably be able to bring in a few journeymen that no one else wants. Would that change anything?

Holloway signed a dozen players in close season. So he can't blame anyone  for that, but on the other hand he had to work within a budget which it seems would not allow us to attract enough quality into the squad.  It might have helped if our board were not so hapless that they let one of our most promising players slip through our fingers through administrative incompetence.

Something has to change, and change dramatically if we are not to slip into a desperate relegation fight. I would say that, if possible, we send back the various loanees that are poor performers. Buy out the contracts of our senior injury prone 'strikers' who hardly ever play. This would make room in the playing budget to bring in new blood.

I think we need at least four quality additions to make us anywhere near competitive.  We could do with a new spine of competent, experienced, fit and quality players; a keeper who can dominate their area, a commanding center half,  a creative midfield leader and a forward who is a real goal threat.

The problem is that these players would not be free transfers. For once we would actually have to buy. If the current board are not willing to invest, then we are doomed whoever the manager is.                  

I understand some of the comments you are making but why sign so many untried lower quality players, why not have a smaller squad but with better quality?

Was this policy from the board or IH?

Do they think that fans have goldfish memories? It was only in May he said -

“At the end of the day I came here to do a job, to work with somebody, and it was absolutely vital for me that I understood who I was working with. If that changes, then my opinion might change. I am totally committed to the current board. I would have to have a total rethink if that was anyone else.

“I made a massive commitment to come to Grimsby. I know I am totally committed to the people I am currently working with. That’s the only promise I will give. If that changes, everything changes. I would sit down and rethink on what I am doing because I have to believe in who I am doing it with and why they are doing it.”

“At the moment, I have total faith in the club and what we are doing”

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/grimsby-town-holloway-shutes-takeover-4162182


Then last night he’s called for someone else to come and buy the club -

“If anybody wants to buy the club, they know what to do, they should contact John Fenty, nobody else.

“Contact the board properly. It’s there to do it, so stop dancing around, in my opinion, and just do it.”

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.c.....tter_impression=true


It’s always been a mystery why he would invest £100k in the club to me. I think I’ve an idea why, given the last few days, but I’ll let other people make that connection for themselves.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Did you expect him to lie?

well.........he is on the board  

Quoted from ska face

Do they think that fans have goldfish memories? It was only in May he said -

“At the end of the day I came here to do a job, to work with somebody, and it was absolutely vital for me that I understood who I was working with. If that changes, then my opinion might change. I am totally committed to the current board. I would have to have a total rethink if that was anyone else.

“I made a massive commitment to come to Grimsby. I know I am totally committed to the people I am currently working with. That’s the only promise I will give. If that changes, everything changes. I would sit down and rethink on what I am doing because I have to believe in who I am doing it with and why they are doing it.”

“At the moment, I have total faith in the club and what we are doing”

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/grimsby-town-holloway-shutes-takeover-4162182


Then last night he’s called for someone else to come and buy the club -

“If anybody wants to buy the club, they know what to do, they should contact John Fenty, nobody else.

“Contact the board properly. It’s there to do it, so stop dancing around, in my opinion, and just do it.”

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.c.....tter_impression=true


It’s always been a mystery why he would invest £100k in the club to me. I think I’ve an idea why, given the last few days, but I’ll let other people make that connection for themselves.

He's probably saying, "if you want to buy the club, they why are you ringing me when I don't actually own any of it yet."

I hope Shutes does take over, because the club needs a change, but the way he's gone about things certainly has a serpentine nature.

Quoted from pen penfras

He's probably saying, "if you want to buy the club, they why are you ringing me when I don't actually own any of it yet."

I hope Shutes does take over, because the club needs a change, but the way he's gone about things certainly has a serpentine nature.

Care to enlighten us because all we have heard from BP towers, is that he is a "tyre kicker". Shutes has said nothing about the takeover as far as I am aware.

Quoted from pen penfras

He's probably saying, "if you want to buy the club, they why are you ringing me when I don't actually own any of it yet."

I hope Shutes does take over, because the club needs a change, but the way he's gone about things certainly has a serpentine nature.

Wow!

Quoted from ginnywings

Care to enlighten us because all we have heard from BP towers, is that he is a "tyre kicker". Shutes has said nothing about the takeover as far as I am aware.

Somebody leaked the discussions to the telegraph whilst under a confidentiality agreement. Seems unlikely that Fenty would do that given the excrement storm it created against him. No proof it was Shutes, but he said he would provide something then didn't and this comes along. Seems like a case of trying to force the issue without actually doing what you've agreed. Obviously there's no proof, but Fenty is found guilty of completely made up things, at least this is partly true.

He rang Holloway to try and get him to turn on the board and support his agenda.

Quoted from toontown

Wow!

Go back through my posts. I've said that from the very start. It doesn't mean that I should share everybody's view of jumping to conclusions and finding every possible negative with no evidence.