The day after

I think i see enough in that team to get us out of this situation, we treid to play football and did ok for the state of the pitch. Newport was largely lumping it up and never really created any chances.

I think they will pull it round and suprise a lot of folk.

Hard to judge the new boys after a game but though Bunny didnt look great, a lot of his passes were a bit wayword and what is he doing taking corners at 6'5" he should be in the box!

Waterfall had his normal nearly costly mistake that he has each game.

Quoted from ginnywings

A wise man once told me that it's the talented people who have the most luck and the more talented you are, the luckier you become. I've found that to be generally true as I've gone through life.

That's because it's not really just "luck" in my opinion ginny. (Purely in football terms I'm talking here)

My opinion is that nothing is luck in football. Well, a deflection is, or something that is blatantly accidental, but in my opinion 90% of the things people say is down to luck in football isnt luck.

Shot hits the crossbar. Unlucky? No it's not, he's missed. Better technique/execution and it would've gone in.

Lost a penalty shootout. Unlucky? They're a lottery? No, the team who can handle the psychological pressure and take their penalties with the best technique will win.

Ball always seems to drop for the opposition? Can argue there's an element of luck to this but surely anticipation and positioning plays a big part here.

The teams at the top always get penalties? Yes because they get into the penalty area more often and have better players more likely to draw a foul through their own skill.

Like I say, I know there are a few exceptions (shot takes deflection to divert it on target or out of the goalkeeper's reach), but "unlucky" is a word I try not to use in football.

Quoted from Tommy

That's because it's not really just "luck" in my opinion ginny. (Purely in football terms I'm talking here)
My opinion is that nothing is luck in football. Well, a deflection is, or something that is blatantly accidental, but in my opinion 90% of the things people say is down to luck in football isnt luck.
Shot hits the crossbar. Unlucky? No it's not, he's missed. Better technique/execution and it would've gone in.

Think I get what you mean. I've not looked at the stats but we seem to have lacked shots and crosses most of the season.  So it's not luck that we are low scoring. Its lack of efforts at goal.

On Saturday we didn't get the advantage of when their keeper stumbled, he recovered before we could benefit, but at least we had someone close by.  

The frustrating thing for me on saturday was how often, as they sat deep, we had the back 4 plus clifton behind the ball.  So were outnumbered, so it was poor tactics in the 2nd half.

More shots, more goals, that's my logic.  So we need to throw players forward. Even the keeper at one nil down late on!

Hard to judge the new boys after a game but though Bunny didnt look great, a lot of his passes were a bit wayword

I thought some of his ‘wayward’ passes were actually good balls into the wide channels but our forwards weren’t anticipating them well enough. Even so they usually put the defender under pressure resulting in at least a throw in to us so still better than pumping it up the middle and having it come straight back at our defence.

I think (hope) that he’s one player that will look a lot better once the team starts to understand each other.

Quoted from Tommy

That's because it's not really just "luck" in my opinion ginny. (Purely in football terms I'm talking here)

My opinion is that nothing is luck in football. Well, a deflection is, or something that is blatantly accidental, but in my opinion 90% of the things people say is down to luck in football isnt luck.

Shot hits the crossbar. Unlucky? No it's not, he's missed. Better technique/execution and it would've gone in.

Lost a penalty shootout. Unlucky? They're a lottery? No, the team who can handle the psychological pressure and take their penalties with the best technique will win.

Ball always seems to drop for the opposition? Can argue there's an element of luck to this but surely anticipation and positioning plays a big part here.

The teams at the top always get penalties? Yes because they get into the penalty area more often and have better players more likely to draw a foul through their own skill.

Like I say, I know there are a few exceptions (shot takes deflection to divert it on target or out of the goalkeeper's reach), but "unlucky" is a word I try not to use in football.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at in my post.

Quoted from ex-merseymariner

Think I get what you mean. I've not looked at the stats but we seem to have lacked shots and crosses most of the season.  So it's not luck that we are low scoring. Its lack of efforts at goal.

On Saturday we didn't get the advantage of when their keeper stumbled, he recovered before we could benefit, but at least we had someone close by.  

The frustrating thing for me on saturday was how often, as they sat deep, we had the back 4 plus clifton behind the ball.  So were outnumbered, so it was poor tactics in the 2nd half.

More shots, more goals, that's my logic.  So we need to throw players forward. Even the keeper at one nil down late on!

Spot on. We seem to trot out a different excuse most weeks, and bad luck is one of the common ones. I have to say though, that those who were explaining away the latest defeat on the grounds that Newport benefited from having a man sent off in the first half are taking the denial syndrome to new levels!

We lose because we don't get the basics right; organisation, skill and commitment. Other teams do these things better than we do, and beat us.

I think Hurst will get the new players to put these things right, let's hope that we don't run out of games in time to escape the drop.

I think with the strikers we have, we need to get more crosses into the box. That was how Lincoln had success under the Cowleys: their philosophy being that if you get 20 to 30 decent balls into the box, you will create enough chances to score a goal or two. They had Matt Rhead causing all sorts of problems, roughing up defenders, getting in their faces and winning penalties. He scored a few too.

Not pretty, but effective. We are not playing to the strengths of Hanson. He needs crosses to attack, facing the goal, instead of with his back to the goal most of the time. I've been really disappointed with our crosses and set pieces all season. Losing Morais when we did was a blow, although we don't know yet whether he is in the plans of PH.

Quoted from ginnywings

I think with the strikers we have, we need to get more crosses into the box. That was how Lincoln had success under the Cowleys: their philosophy being that if you get 20 to 30 decent balls into the box, you will create enough chances to score a goal or two. They had Matt Rhead causing all sorts of problems, roughing up defenders, getting in their faces and winning penalties. He scored a few too.

Not pretty, but effective. We are not playing to the strengths of Hanson. He needs crosses to attack, facing the goal, instead of with his back to the goal most of the time. I've been really disappointed with our crosses and set pieces all season. Losing Morais when we did was a blow, although we don't know yet whether he is in the plans of PH.

Yes, same as that guy at Barnet who was forever getting penalties. John Akinde I think his name is. We slagged him off and called him a cheat, but the truth is that you only get penalties if you are in the bloody penalty box!  

Quoted from ginnywings

A wise man once told me that it's the talented people who have the most luck and the more talented you are, the luckier you become. I've found that to be generally true as I've gone through life.

I was told good luck is usually when you're well enough prepared for an opportunity when it comes along.... if you're not prepared the chance goes begging and someone else other than yourself will benefit

Of course you can't prepare for every eventuality but the more you plan for something, the more chance you'll succeed and then luck will seem to be on your side

Quoted from monkeyboy

I think i see enough in that team to get us out of this situation, we treid to play football and did ok for the state of the pitch. Newport was largely lumping it up and never really created any chances.

I think they will pull it round and suprise a lot of folk.

Hard to judge the new boys after a game but though Bunny didnt look great, a lot of his passes were a bit wayword and what is he doing taking corners at 6'5" he should be in the box!

Waterfall had his normal nearly costly mistake that he has each game.

A good point.... he said in his interview with Matt Dean that he used to be a forward until one of his managers changed his position for him