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Obviously this is slightly tongue in cheek and I assume it isn't available but the massive plot of land Pleasure Island used to be is a great location. Plenty of parking already set up on site. For away fans they can either stay at Thorpe Park or the other caravan sites (great for Yorkshire clubs) or if they're catching the train they can get the train to Clee then the mini train (I assume it still runs) away fans would love that Obviously this post is mostly tongue in cheek but that area is totally wasted in a half decent location.
Why tongue in cheek? If available and if possible I think it would be a fantastic, never thought of before location. Probably a bit gridlocked on match days but there's many new builds with just one road in and out.
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Obviously this is slightly tongue in cheek and I assume it isn't available but the massive plot of land Pleasure Island used to be is a great location. Plenty of parking already set up on site. For away fans they can either stay at Thorpe Park or the other caravan sites (great for Yorkshire clubs) or if they're catching the train they can get the train to Clee then the mini train (I assume it still runs) away fans would love that Obviously this post is mostly tongue in cheek but that area is totally wasted in a half decent location.
As far as I know it's going to be housing and a Lidl/Aldi. I believe plans are already in for it.
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I agree it should still be built, but I’m also pretty confident those sorts of fixtures would be down to about 6000 even in a new ground.
And I’m 100% on board with a move, I just think we need to be realistic. It’s a myth that championship sides fill away ends - I’ll never forget Stoke brining 300 for a Saturday game once. That happens a lot. Even some Prem teams travel poorly, both midweek and weekend.
Yeah but you’re thinking of hands from 25 years ago , all 4 leagues are much better supported these days. If we can average over 6500 as a mid table 4th division side we’d be able to double that in the Championship these days
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Obviously this is slightly tongue in cheek and I assume it isn't available but the massive plot of land Pleasure Island used to be is a great location. Plenty of parking already set up on site. For away fans they can either stay at Thorpe Park or the other caravan sites (great for Yorkshire clubs) or if they're catching the train they can get the train to Clee then the mini train (I assume it still runs) away fans would love that Obviously this post is mostly tongue in cheek but that area is totally wasted in a half decent location.
Think it's already earmarked for a supermarket and holiday park chalets.
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Yeah but you’re thinking of hands from 25 years ago , all 4 leagues are much better supported these days.
If we can average over 6500 as a mid table 4th division side we’d be able to double that in the Championship these days
I love your confidence, but not a chance.
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I love your confidence, but not a chance.
I'm not so brave to say we would double our attendances if we were in the Championship but my bias swings more that way than not having a chance. Reason for that is the amount of kids that seem to be wearing Town shirts these days. Not a flawless logic on it's own but I do think there is a level of uptake on the Club that is higher in the younger ages than I've known. I've coached locally for years and there are more and more young Town fans in shirts right now than I've ever seen previously. Extend that a little and add a few years when this cadre of future match-goers are able to attend by themselves, are they more likely to attract their mates to Barrow at home or one-time Premier League winners Leicester? The view in my head is that under the JF years, the wind sweep was negative, throwing things out of it's path and away from the Club. This last two years the wind is positive and it's gathering things in it's path and attracting them to the Club, ST sales are proving this. With every positive step, with every improvement more and more seem to be being caught up by the Club and if you add the higher standard of football and calibre of teams that would be visiting BP then I think it's not completely unrealistic to think we could be hitting over 10k attendances.
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I love your confidence, but not a chance.
I sort of agree with you but statistics back up the point that even clubs with smaller support have a decent upturn in attendances when moving to a new stadium . Rotherham doubled their average attendance and more going from 3.5k to around 8k in a new stadium and they have remained steady at that and above . Doncaster almost the same , even if they have dropped off now in their bad spell its far more than they were ever getting at Belle Vue . Then there is the likes of Brentford ,Reading ,Swansea and even The Tigers who all got relatively small gates before their new grounds either through lack of seats or just poor numbers. There is the odd exception - Colchester , Shrewsbury and Oxford come to mind ,but I would guess even there attendances have improved - they are just very poor versions of modern stadia for me
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I sort of agree with you but statistics back up the point that even clubs with smaller support have a decent upturn in attendances when moving to a new stadium .
Rotherham doubled their average attendance and more going from 3.5k to around 8k in a new stadium and they have remained steady at that and above . Doncaster almost the same , even if they have dropped off now in their bad spell its far more than they were ever getting at Belle Vue . Then there is the likes of Brentford ,Reading ,Swansea and even The Tigers who all got relatively small gates before their new grounds either through lack of seats or just poor numbers.
There is the odd exception - Colchester , Shrewsbury and Oxford come to mind ,but I would guess even there attendances have improved - they are just very poor versions of modern stadia for me
Oxfords stadium is right on the south of the city and a bit of a pain to get to. And they only had it built because they had all of their debts wiped out when Kassam took over (I think )
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Oxfords stadium is right on the south of the city and a bit of a pain to get to. And they only had it built because they had all of their debts wiped out when Kassam took over (I think )
They get decent gates don't they? Around when I started to take an interest in football I seem to think they were inbthe first division, be interesting to see how their gates now compare to then. In fact ill try and find out!
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They get decent gates don't they?
Around when I started to take an interest in football I seem to think they were inbthe first division, be interesting to see how their gates now compare to then. In fact ill try and find out!
About 8k at home which is decent, about 11k when in div in the early 80s Shows, like has been said, how much attendances have gone up
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