Jason’s latest Guardian article

Quoted from moosey_club

Without knowing what the data is they are focusing on we really can't comment.....if data was used in the January window did it bring improved players to the club ?

Smith..........on the fence
Thompson .......yes
Hume .......on the fence
Tharme....yes
Obikwu.....no

So not a terrible strike rate overall.....

Just hope data includes things like background checks for upcoming court cases, drink driving and some background checks regards professionalism.  

You forgot Harry Wood, which tells you all you need to know!

Quoted from rancido

Very magnanimous of you to admit you're errors as well as JS. At least you are open enough to admit you don't like JS , They Guardian and that you allow politics to affect your judgement of the running of a non- political industry ie football ( well at least as GTFC is concerned -  views where Rangers or Celtic are concerned is a different kettle of fish ). I think using the expression " oblivion" is a tad dramatic as many clubs of a similar standing to us have gone non- league only to return and many quite quickly. In fact we have twice and bounced back.
I don't think it's a case of " telling porky pies" about the data early in the season but you can put your own slant on it as you are, by your own admission, sceptical about a data lead pathway. You seem to overlook the fact that we had a hybrid version with recruitment mostly done by a more traditional approach and performances being judged by the data of individuals and as a collective. Yes, you could be right that by allowing PH to have more control over recruitment then JS did " mishandle" the situation and admitted as such. I'm sure during your working career you have mishandled situations , made wrong decisions and thought afterwards that you could have done things differently.As JS pointed out, we have a single, integrated approach now and I think any judgement should be reserved until we see the full implementation of this.

Yes it is Magnanimous, have you ever been?
I never said I let politics affect my judgement, you pre assumed that.  My view of JS blinds you, its your problem.
and that you allow politics to affect your judgement of the running of a non-political industry ie football  Hang on a minute what was all that taking the knee for a crook, with a long history of charges from the USA. What has that got to do with Grimsby? Since when do we play in the Major League Soccer? I notice no calls on this site for taking the knee for the 1400+ Murdered, raped, kidnapped by Hamas.
"Oblivion" a tad dramatic??? Some people were signing off with mental issues on this forum due to the stress. Do you actually think a few years in the NL would have revived our fortunes somehow? I think this season has done some damage anyway. I know of three STH  travelling fans who came religiously from Manchester way who stopped coming by Xmas. They've been travelling for 20 years, and now have had enough. Yes they might relent, because we've all been there, but I'm not to sure as they gave up half the season.
You feel calm and happy that GTFC is safe in JS hands because?      Well I'm alarmed as I'm not sure DA came in because he was great, he came in because he was unemployed for 18 months and  acquiescent to the "New Data Driven Religion",  and other applicants (were there any) didn't want to touch it. That's my view but only JS knows, and he's not telling.

Quoted from GrimPol

Yes it is Magnanimous, have you ever been?
I never said I let politics affect my judgement, you pre assumed that.  My view of JS blinds you, its your problem.
and that you allow politics to affect your judgement of the running of a non-political industry ie football  Hang on a minute what was all that taking the knee for a crook, with a long history of charges from the USA. What has that got to do with Grimsby? Since when do we play in the Major League Soccer? I notice no calls on this site for taking the knee for the 1400+ Murdered, raped, kidnapped by Hamas.
"Oblivion" a tad dramatic??? Some people were signing off with mental issues on this forum due to the stress. Do you actually think a few years in the NL would have revived our fortunes somehow? I think this season has done some damage anyway. I know of three STH  travelling fans who came religiously from Manchester way who stopped coming by Xmas. They've been travelling for 20 years, and now have had enough. Yes they might relent, because we've all been there, but I'm not to sure as they gave up half the season.
You feel calm and happy that GTFC is safe in JS hands because?      Well I'm alarmed as I'm not sure DA came in because he was great, he came in because he was unemployed for 18 months and  acquiescent to the "New Data Driven Religion",  and other applicants (were there any) didn't want to touch it. That's my view but only JS knows, and he's not telling.

I will always accept when I'm wrong and, like most people, often have been. That could be interpreted as " magnanimous" , so yes I have been.
Quote " I don't like JS's politics" - that, at face value, could be interpreted as letting politics cloud your judgement of JS.
You don't like The Guardian. Is that because of it's political stance, it's general content or because you prefer another newspaper?
Football is a non-political sport but certain clubs have been " highjacked" by political factions. I find your use of the" taking of the knee" as proof of politics in football very naïve. This was an expression that spread through all sports and certainly had nothing to do with football or the other sports. Regardless of it's roots it was a solidarity expression against racism , which I would like to think you are in agreement with. The introduction of the Palestine situation just shows that you are clutching at straws to get your point across.
As far as the use of " oblivion"  ( OED. - destruction or extinction) then I think it was hyperbole. FL1 contains Oxford United - twice , Lincoln City - 3, Cambridge -1 and Exeter - 1. These are all teams that have been relegated out of the FL , including the occasions, since 1987/88 season and regained their FL status. There are currently 6 teams in FL2, including ourselves, who have been non-league and returned. Stockport County- Champions, Wrexham and Mansfield- promoted, Doncaster- play-off position. Hardly destruction or extinction is it.
Yes , at this moment in time I do trust the club in JS's hands but who knows what the future will bring. It's patently obvious that you do not like the modern data lead approach but like so many things about this era, things are constantly evolving and developing. Having a Luddite approach to a constantly evolving world is not a healthy attitude to have.

I’d probably advise taking a breath before using the situation in Israel/Palestine and the c. 35000 dead over there since October to make a point about football.

Think if Biden can’t sort it in Palastine GTFC won’t…..
So let’s stick to footy and slagging off Scunny.

Quoted from GrimPol

Yes it is Magnanimous, have you ever been?
I never said I let politics affect my judgement, you pre assumed that.  My view of JS blinds you, its your problem.
and that you allow politics to affect your judgement of the running of a non-political industry ie football  Hang on a minute what was all that taking the knee for a crook, with a long history of charges from the USA. What has that got to do with Grimsby? Since when do we play in the Major League Soccer? I notice no calls on this site for taking the knee for the 1400+ Murdered, raped, kidnapped by Hamas.
"Oblivion" a tad dramatic??? Some people were signing off with mental issues on this forum due to the stress. Do you actually think a few years in the NL would have revived our fortunes somehow? I think this season has done some damage anyway. I know of three STH  travelling fans who came religiously from Manchester way who stopped coming by Xmas. They've been travelling for 20 years, and now have had enough. Yes they might relent, because we've all been there, but I'm not to sure as they gave up half the season.
You feel calm and happy that GTFC is safe in JS hands because?      Well I'm alarmed as I'm not sure DA came in because he was great, he came in because he was unemployed for 18 months and  acquiescent to the "New Data Driven Religion",  and other applicants (were there any) didn't want to touch it. That's my view but only JS knows, and he's not telling.

Take a breath fella, you are so far down your own rabbit hole that you can’t even see it.
Don’t worry about footy through May and I’m sure you’ll feel better.

Quoted from rancido

I will always accept when I'm wrong and, like most people, often have been. That could be interpreted as " magnanimous" , so yes I have been.
Quote " I don't like JS's politics" - that, at face value, could be interpreted as letting politics cloud your judgement of JS.
You don't like The Guardian. Is that because of it's political stance, it's general content or because you prefer another newspaper?
Football is a non-political sport but certain clubs have been " highjacked" by political factions. I find your use of the" taking of the knee" as proof of politics in football very naïve. This was an expression that spread through all sports and certainly had nothing to do with football or the other sports. Regardless of it's roots it was a solidarity expression against racism , which I would like to think you are in agreement with. The introduction of the Palestine situation just shows that you are clutching at straws to get your point across.
As far as the use of " oblivion"  ( OED. - destruction or extinction) then I think it was hyperbole. FL1 contains Oxford United - twice , Lincoln City - 3, Cambridge -1 and Exeter - 1. These are all teams that have been relegated out of the FL , including the occasions, since 1987/88 season and regained their FL status. There are currently 6 teams in FL2, including ourselves, who have been non-league and returned. Stockport County- Champions, Wrexham and Mansfield- promoted, Doncaster- play-off position. Hardly destruction or extinction is it.
Yes , at this moment in time I do trust the club in JS's hands but who knows what the future will bring. It's patently obvious that you do not like the modern data lead approach but like so many things about this era, things are constantly evolving and developing. Having a Luddite approach to a constantly evolving world is not a healthy attitude to have.

"Football is a non-political sport but certain clubs have been " highjacked" by political factions. I find your use of the" taking of the knee" as proof of politics in football very naïve" .Did you take the knee, or were you just happy the footballers take it for you by proxy?

Your turning this arguement/discussion as if JS+You are Pro Data Selection, and I am against it, which not I'm just not sold on it. You are of course.
The point you have made before is that "we all make mistakes"  Well yes, but some mistakes are small, and some are massive. JS made a massive mistake, and in a larger organisation, he would have been sacked by the people above him. But then cannot sack himself at GTFC can he?

The scenario is this. The Board decided to travel down the Data Recruitment road, and hired the services of  TransferLab in June 2021 ( we had just been relegated to the NL) PH said at the time “As a manager, I like to make sure I have as much information available to me to inform my decision-making. TransferLab adds another layer on top of what we already have and will help us to get an edge over the other clubs in our division.” So all main people are on board, right? In November 2022 a Head of Recruitment Analysis JH is hired , and Town boss Paul Hurst said:
“I’m delighted to welcome Joe to the Club. He comes very highly recommended, having worked with Steve Croudson in the past at a couple of clubs. Steve couldn’t speak highly enough of him, as others have done as well. PH still on board it seems. However it all went wrong, in recruitment for the 2023 24 season, and now we know that PH was allowed to do his own thing. JS had invested all this money and time with TransferLab and JH hire, and allows PH to do his own thing. JS knew he was making a bad judgement, but still made it. Now you are blinded by his politics and see nothing wrong. or just a mistake. Well I made a mistake last week and bought too many tomatoes, and had to dump some, about £1.50 worth. JS knew he was making  one costing many thousands, potential "Oblivion" into the NL, and maybe worse. Are those two mistakes the same? But roll on 2024-25, it can't be worse than the last season, can it? UTM
PS
If you think I'm naive in thinking that Politics in Sport/Business is not happening look up Linzi Smith (whose views  I endorse)  Newcastle Utd fan. The Diversity Inclusion Equity (DIE) that brought on her problems is of the same DNA as JS fronts. These are real lives being messed with.

I'll be waiting for the midnight knock from the "Thought Police" if you don't understand that comment, you haven't looked her up.

The key to football success is, and always has been, if the manger can get a tune out of individual players and the team.  Were our promoted teams full of the best players, and our relegated teams full of the worst players, or did people like McMenemy, Kerr, Buckley make "ordinary" players perform like world-beaters?

Quoted from JK47

The key to football success is, and always has been, if the manger can get a tune out of individual players and the team.  Were our promoted teams full of the best players, and our relegated teams full of the worst players, or did people like McMenemy, Kerr, Buckley make "ordinary" players perform like world-beaters?

The managers quoted will have used a combination of a scouting system and knowledge of individual players. The managers will know what kind of playing style they are going to pursue and select the appropriate players. The modern data lead " scouting" system replaces a lot of the leg work done by the old-fashioned way but can be enhanced by personal knowledge of some players. When he came here AB used his knowledge of non- league players to acquire 3 gems in John Cockrill, Keith Alexander and Andy Tilson.
The skill of any manager is to recognise the best position that a player can perform to his best in and incorporate a knowledge what is required. It's not necessarily a case of " world beaters" but introducing a style/system that brings out the best in those players.
I think that what what went wrong this season was PH not using players in a system where they performed to their best and DA trying to change things too quickly - something which he has freely admitted to. The recruitment for next season could prove to be very interesting.

Quoted from IlkleyMariner

Think if Biden can’t sort it in Palastine GTFC won’t…..
So let’s stick to footy and slagging off Scunny.

I’m not sure Biden is even aware of where Palestine is these days .