Grimsby soldier killed in Afghanistan

so sad to see another young life lost in this "battle" especially as its  Grimsby lad

we have been waging this war on terror for longer than we did the 2nd world war, but still see no end in site, the situation is worse now than it was 3 or 4 years ago, we have no stratagy and we are not wanted there.

Asia is not the west, even Japan and Korea have lame democracies that permit strong discrimination against outsiders. So the Islamic republic in Afghanistan has no intentions of being democratic. Especially in its poverty stricken state.

the islamic rag heads defeated the Soviet Army (althought their tactics waged war on the public too, so where at war with a whole nation) this war looks like another Vietnam for us all, as well of the financial costs we have to cough up for...........Bin Laden is probably dead and the Yanks know this, but just need an excuse to carry this on & we are just following their lead............probably only over oil pipelines if the truth be known

Bush & Blair have a lot to answer to/for

(my opinions and not based on anything else but my own belief)

I have to say I agree with you.
I would LOVE to see both Bush and Blair put on trial for warcrimes and dishonesty over STARTING th war.

It'll happen one day Meggy. Illegal war and all that.

Quoted from Meggy

I have to say I agree with you.
I would LOVE to see both Bush and Blair put on trial for warcrimes and dishonesty over STARTING th war.

From memory the bombing of Afghanistan and the U.S. involvement was a direct typical U.S. response to the 11 September. What the Americans never got a grasp of was the fact that unlike Pearl Harbour they weren't fighting a country they were dealing with a disparate organisation present in lots of countries.
Quite why we got involved at all is anybody's guess. Someone should have told "Tone" that being a special friend means being being able to say "Now come on George do you think that's right?"
It will unfortunately always be thus. Since before Adam was a lad governments around the world have asked working class men and women to die for somewhat spurious reasons.

Oh and deep down you KNOW that Bush and Blair will never be brought to trial......

Whatever the politics, the lads was simply doing his job. a He's done his county great service. My thoughts are with his family.

Quoted from 75

Whatever the politics, the lads was simply doing his job. a He's done his county great service. My thoughts are with his family.

Agreed wholeheartedly. Those who lay down their lives at their countries bidding are due the utmost respect.

Quoted from barralad

Oh and deep down you KNOW that Bush and Blair will never be brought to trial......

Quoted from 75

Whatever the politics, the lads was simply doing his job. a He's done his county great service. My thoughts are with his family.

Agree wholeheartedly with both of you.

RIP, another hero lost in another mess of a war

i agree with the reasons for going into iraq, saddam was a tryant who had to be removed, we just went about it all wrong and the s**t hole that it created is just pointlessly wasting young mens lifes

Quoted from kamakazebear

RIP, another hero lost in another mess of a war

i agree with the reasons for going into iraq, saddam was a tryant who had to be removed, we just went about it all wrong and the s**t hole that it created is just pointlessly wasting young mens lifes

I personally don't think that people should link Iraq and Afghanistan. The reasons for going to war in Iraq probably had little to do with Saddam (although he offered the Western world a gift wrapped excuse) and far more to do with the millions of barrels of oil under their particular patch of sand.

Quoted from barralad

I personally don't think that people should link Iraq and Afghanistan. The reasons for going to war in Iraq probably had little to do with Saddam (although he offered the Western world a gift wrapped excuse) and far more to do with the millions of barrels of oil under their particular patch of sand.

Thats not far wrong you old cynic.

I'd have Cheney up against the wall closely followed by the idiot Bush and the smiling cretin Blair.Trouble is these blokes have never actually served in the forces don't know what fighting for your country means or what having your mates killed round you is all about.

Bush fought in Vietnam didn't he? Or was that a load of balderdash as well?

Quoted from LH

Bush fought in Vietnam didn't he? Or was that a load of balderdash as well?

Wasnt Bush a pilot?, i maybe wrong

Quoted from Wrawby_Mariner

Wasnt Bush a pilot?, i maybe wrong

That was his father surely.

john mccain fought in vietnam, and he was republican, george bush junoir (if he actualy did) fought in vietnam was a republican, george bush senior was in charge during gulf war 1 who wanted to carry on marching to baghdad in 1991, was a republican

theres a pattern emerging here  

no more american/british wars under obama?

lets hope so

Gulf war 1 was justifiable,as Saddam had invaded another country.After that most of it has been Bush junior trying to emulate a Tom Clancy novel.

My deepest respects go to all his family and friends.  

no one can stop wars, although it seems everyone wants to do that!!
what a shame!

Only just heard about this death, all my thoughts are with the family at this difficult time. I travelled with graham from gy to our intensive training and was in his platoon for intensive training, he was a great lad and really enjoyed being part of army life. Remember him telling me that the only thing he had ever wanted to do was serve in the armed forces, think it was something to do with a family member serving in the army before him. A great loss to the town of Grimsby, the armed forces and to the country. RIP!!

all thoughts with family and friendsd

Quoted from 75

Whatever the politics, the lads was simply doing his job. a He's done his county great service. My thoughts are with his family.

Aye. Spot on.

George W Bush  father was  a WW2 fighter pilot George W dodged the draft .

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/06/05_moore.html

Anyone here know what Dubya's middle name is?

I'll give you a few letters for starters and you can work out the one missing for yourselves

W A * K E R

Wonder which consonant you'll think of first!

L?