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It's pretty standard practice bringing on a defensive minded player for a forward when your team is winning
Not when you have a comfortable lead!! As we have seen many times it invites pressure! We've been lucky on many occasions but the luck ran out today!!
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He needed to bring another striker on because we were winning by 2 goals playing with 2 up top. With playing 1 up front the ball won't stick and will as today comes streigt back at ye. Hurst is a flipping idiot.
Agreed a more positive substitution would have been the right decision, but that doesnt make him PH idiot. Just listened to Sean Pearson and he is obviously protecting the manager and standing by him but at the same time he is right when he says 'we have done this plenty of times already'....so I think poor decision by PH but not the end of the world, it really isnt
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But how many times had it won us points? You can't just ignore the credit side of the ledger book and add up all the debit column.We have won a lot of games by one goal this season when those same negative tacitics have gained us points.
You agree they are negative tactics then Rob.
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If you have the player to do the job, to come on, slow the game down, take possession and get the ball forward, then yes by all means it's a good option, but parslow has never done that job, and surely a professional manager should operate by using the players he actually has, rather than operating by the theory you learn doing your coaching license, which gets us onto a debate rightly brought up by Curtis woodhouse about everything that's wrong with football management in Britain these days but that's for another time
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I don't post a lot on here and when I do I try and give a balanced and (hopefully) an intelligent view. I also (most of the time) back the manager too. However, Hurst really must take the blame for this result especially as almost the same thing happened the week before against Woking which we got away with it. Yes take off Palmer and protect his hamstring but put on Hannah so that firstly the balence of the team isn't upset and secondly we might even have scored a third. To say I am angry even an hour after the finish of the match is the understatement of the year.
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It's pretty standard practice bringing on a defensive minded player for a forward when your team is winning. You see it most weeks on tv. So I think your analogy is very poor it's not as though PH did something so terrible only a madman would do it.He had to make the subsitution whether he brought the right defensive player on is another matter but I see nothing wrong with the principle of the subsitution. Had he brought on another striker and went for more goals that we didn't need then he would have deserved the criticism.
My analogy was based on your quote Rob, very poor as you may see it, I do not gamble myself but I have managed in football and feel maybe in today's case that a striker for a striker would have been more suitable. Chester were not presenting too much of a threat also taking the score into account. The percentage game as you put it is like rolling a dice, this IMO was not necessary. I hope your bets paid out today UTM!
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The percentage choice today was to leave well alone
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The percentage choice today was to leave well alone
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But how many times had it won us points? You can't just ignore the credit side of the ledger book and add up all the debit column.We have won a lot of games by one goal this season when those same negative tacitics have gained us points.
Its all about opinions Rob, We are 2-0 up, now if we were under the cosh and Chester was all over us then yes bring that extra defender on, BUT We were not under the cosh were we ? Bringing Jolley or Hannah on might have made the game safe with a third goal, Just bring a defender on when there is no need makes no sense. Horses for courses as they say but Hurst ops to defend whatever the situation is on the pitch.
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Christ get off his back now, he's the manager and he's doing very well this season. Mourinho has a world class record and his defensive mentality and similar subs threw him out of the CL the other day.. I'm not comparing Mourinho with Hurst, but I'm just saying .. It doesn't always work.. He doesn't need crucifying. If he'd of come on and said yer fair one my mistake, we would all lose faith in his decision making anytime to went wrong in the future. I think he's kept self respect and dignity and a similar sib would work in the future... 90 percent of the reason he's gettig nailed was because as soon as he made the sub JT said.. "As long as it works".. Keep supporting the team and manager and on we go!
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