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cmackenzie4
September 15, 2015, 7:14pm

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Any team news yet?


Grimsby and proud!
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September 15, 2015, 7:18pm
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I'm on the algarve atm , Live event number on tune in app ?
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September 15, 2015, 7:28pm
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Unchanged side from Saturday with Gowling replacing Venney on the bench!

I like the continuity!!


"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old, Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn, At the going down of the sun, and in the morning, We WILL remember them"
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Same starting 11 as on Saturday.
First match i've not been to this season so hope the lads keep up the good football.  Dreading listening to JT on Radio Humberside as he always makes it seem like the opposition are going to score with every attack!
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McKeown; East, Nsiala, Pearson, Robertson; Arnold, Disley, Robinson; Monkhouse; Amond, Bogle.


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You're learning Paul, fair play for that.
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Is Hannah playing for Chester?


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Gowling in team and on bench ?
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September 15, 2015, 7:36pm
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IF YOU PLAY FOR THE BADGE ON THE FRONT OF YOUR SHIRT
THEY WILL REMEMBER THE NAME ON THE BACK OF IT





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Chairmen come and go, boards come and go, but the fans remain.
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September 15, 2015, 7:45pm
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Come on town utm
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Gutted, first game missed this season UTM


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September 15, 2015, 7:49pm

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Commentry on mariners player missing......anyone else having trouble?


Rose is on fire

And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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September 15, 2015, 7:52pm
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Commentry on mariners player missing......anyone else having trouble?


Getting full commentary on Humberside Woz -  http://www.bbc.co.uk/humber   - click on listen live.
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Gowling is on the bench; Hannah is upfront for Chester. Liked Hannah, would have been useful for Hurst to have kept if he wanted a reliable 4th Striker....


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Cheers mate. Will give a go


Sorted mate  


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September 15, 2015, 7:57pm

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Hannah was bang average.
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Luke Shaw { Man Utd ) down with horrific injury after tackle by PSV player, probably broken leg, you don't want to watch the replay


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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Hannah was a great player when the game
Suited him. But that was very rare and he was unable to adapt due to a lack of other attributes. Bogel however has it all IMO!




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September 15, 2015, 8:08pm

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Gowling is on the bench; Hannah is upfront for Chester. Liked Hannah, would have been useful for Hurst to have kept if he wanted a reliable 4th Striker....


Maybe Hannah didn't want to be a 4th striker!


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Luke Shaw { Man Utd ) down with horrific injury after tackle by PSV player, probably broken leg, you don't want to watch the replay


Not probably. Leg looked completely snapped to me. As you say, i don't want a second look.
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His foot was waggling everywhere. Hideous. Shame because he was excellent for England the other night and would be in my England starting XI in France.
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Bogle should of scored but good save from there keeper


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Tranmere already 2-0 down at Southport!


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Not a lot happening.
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Another game all the possession we will win utm
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Tonduer seems desperate to slate Bogle tonight.
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Big push coming before half time i reckon


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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Big push coming before half time i reckon


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FGR losing


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According to many on here Les they've already won the league so not sure why we're bothered  
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Eastleigh losing too.


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Tonduer seems desperate to slate Bogle tonight.


He's missed two good chances. He needs to start putting more of them away so we can get on top early in games.


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FGR 1 DOWN


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He's missed two good chances. He needs to start putting more of them away so we can get on top early in games.


He's brand new to this level and has 7 in 9. He can't put them all away and he's doing very very well so far IMO.
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He's missed two good chances. He needs to start putting more of them away so we can get on top early in games.


Give the guy a break, he has scored 7 in 8. He I still learning and developing. If we keep creating chances he will score. I agree in a tight game you have to take chances though.
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Chester had a cracking chance at end great ball in but none of the strikers went for it. Bogle should have buried at least one.
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Hmmm a striker not putting all of his chances away but still getting a good goal return. That does remind me of someone else we had who wasn't cut any slack on here.  Why is it one rule for one and one for others?

* in no way am I comparing Bogle to LJL just asking why the different treatment.
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He is our top goal scorer
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He likes the 2nd half to score from open play !

Arnold to be more into the play in the 2nd half - looking for 2-0 to Town at 90 minutes, but my fingers are cramped being crossed for so long !!
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Hmmm a striker not putting all of his chances away but still getting a good goal return. That does remind me of someone else we had who wasn't cut any slack on here.  Why is it one rule for one and one for others?

* in no way am I comparing Bogle to LJL just asking why the different treatment.


Because LJL will never score 7 in 9 in his entire career maybe?
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Simon he slop sent off for Torquay.tranmere pulled 1 back
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Not used to Jt not saying Hannah offside...every time he mentions him Hannah seems to have won a free kick instead of conceding one
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Our old chum richard Brodie puts aldershot 1 up and andy cook does the same for barrow
Gateshead 2-1 up v Wrexham
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Our final ball is letting us down at the moment


Gtfc all the way
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Barrow 1 - 0 Lincoln


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Commentary down?
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Anyone else commentary wondered off?


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Has radio humberside gone of for anyone else


Gtfc all the way
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Commentary down?


Same here 😁
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Yeah Humberside down.


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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About time a Town player puts it in the back of the net.  We're going to rue missing all these chances...
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Yeah Humberside down.


ARGH. Me too.
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My commentary gone too
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Need to take one of these chances!

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Chance to close the gap on FGR, C,Mon one goal will do,  


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Pen to Chester

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And FGR get one back. I give up.


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flipping useless


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felicitations sake.




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player mistakes once again. intercourse sake
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intercourse sake same old story
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How fvcking predictable.


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Pity Hannah didn't draw a challenge and gain a pen in a Town shirt more often .


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This isn't good enough


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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Ffs
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We should of put out bloody chances away ffs Chester are shite and we're losing


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Pity Hannah didn't draw a challenge and gain a pen in a Town shirt more often .

Pity he didn't wear the shirt a little more often


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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September 15, 2015, 9:23pm

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We're getting shown up by Hannah and Chapell ffs - they're both utter shite


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No, they're not utter shite though.


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Agree with Jonny - sadly all too predictable. Wasted chances, concede a soft goal.


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No, they're not utter shite though.


Yes they are. Chapell did the sum of absolutely intercourse all while playing for us, and barely managed to get into the team. Same for Hannah who spent most of the time after his initial loan spell running around to no great effect, other than getting caught offside. All he's done tonight is run around a bit, fall over in the box and score a penalty - he's not missed any clear chances like our strikers have tonight.


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Is it time for Paul to go if we lose tonight??

Just asking!!


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One step forwards , Two steps back ! It's been the same for the last four seasons but I'm sure the happy clappers will be on here with their positives soon enough
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yeah turn it another happy clappers thread grimps! seriously intercourse off with the name calling on here just because they have a different point of view to you!!!
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Chaos dont say you agree with me mate..

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Away anywhere on a Tuesday night is always a tricky task. Not a "happy clapper" just speaking the truth.


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yeah turn it another happy clappers thread grimps! seriously intercourse off with the name calling on here just because they have a different point of view to you!!!


This isn't the scoreline or performance of a team intending to win the league though. AGAIN we've missed a load of decent first half chances before throwing it away with a defensive member-up in the second half. This shouldn't still be happening.


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Sick of hearing the words 'sucker punch'
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Time to go... Signed average players at best every season, if you want to disagree then look at the bloody results.... We need a manager that knows what to do to gain promotions from a PRO league.

Sadly we ain't going to do it with hurst, and who is going to budget next season when funds are cut.. And the new live within means come into force it's now or never!!!!!

For me goodbye hurst
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Away anywhere on a Tuesday night is always a tricky task. Not a "happy clapper" just speaking the truth.


Not for successful teams.
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I've taken some red crosses for suggesting we're not good enough and Kiddy were rubbish. Well the table tells the truth
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Yes bradz it is but it gets a bit tedious when its the same suck you in spit you out week on week.

Just speaking the truth.


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This isn't the scoreline or performance of a team intending to win the league though. AGAIN we've missed a load of decent first half chances before throwing it away with a defensive member-up in the second half. This shouldn't still be happening.


Exactly.


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well im a so called happy clapper, and im not happy with the result, but its players letting us down at the moment, not the manager. shame we dont have these debates when we win
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Not good enough. We're nowhere near the level required to win this league outright which is a shame and not something I want to be saying.
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Away anywhere on a Tuesday night is always a tricky task. Not a "happy clapper" just speaking the truth.


Not for a team that has intentions of promotion !
This clown will never take us up
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anyone that thinks we are going to go up needs to see a shrink.. and specsavers
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I've taken some red crosses for suggesting we're not good enough and Kiddy were rubbish. Well the table tells the truth


Kiddy just equalised in the last minute.dear old Reece styche with a penalty
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All around the country right now there are corners and free kicks being sung in and headed home by defenders and midfielders. Meanwhile we seem to have just Bogle to carry the responsibility to score. Where are the set pieces needed to grab these goals in games that are tiresomely ebbing away into a defeat yet again?


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You could have made serious money on tonight's outcome and the scorer, even Doig predicted it.

The managements negativity will never deliver what we believe, he has had long enough.
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well im a so called happy clapper, and im not happy with the result, but its players letting us down at the moment, not the manager. shame we dont have these debates when we win


I'm sure if you trawl back through a few threads on here you'll see me and others say that Hurst would go and win a couple then lose a couple again exactly the same as we have for the last four seasons.
Hurst has proved time and time again that he cant get a team to kick on after a couple of results
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Not good enough ffs useless twits


Gtfc all the way
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Can't even be bothered to discuss this post-match. We should all just copy and paste the same old comments after the same old predictable display. Nailed on defeat on going 1 down, not good enough at all.


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Were averaging 1.5 points per game which will take us to 69 points if it carries on like this - not enough for the play offs
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About time. Still not good enough Town. Cue Amond being benched against Tranmere


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There you go! A negative post from me predicting defeat and we score!

You can thank me later Mr Hurst!


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Good - at least that turns it into an underwhelming result rather than a excrement one.


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Not the win though is it


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pleased with the draw. but it is just papering over the cracks
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Lucky lucky escape


Not 'lucky' at all. Deserved but not a display to convince anyone.


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GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!

Sorry if I've got the wrong thread, not sure if this is for commenting on the match or slagging off the manager
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Not consistent enough, failure to take chances, unable to keep clean sheet  Best we can hope for is to get into play-offs,  And after the rose coloured glasses posters have red x me lets get real, failing to beat teams like Chester and Altrincham will not get us out of this league.
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YES!!!! SHUTUP YOU NEGATIVE TWITS!!!!! WE'VE GOT THE GOAL


Grow up. Papers over the cracks, Hurst is not positive enough to deliver promotion.
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Unbelievable - if you can't enjoy a last minute equaliser then what's the point?
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Not good enough but it'll get him out of jail for another week or two
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Conceding in every game, with many unforced defensive errrors.  Forwards missing enough good chances to cost us many points.

Before tonight we had scored in every away game, in all competitions, for something like 28 consecutive games.   We had even scored 2 at Chester last season.  
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Some of you miserable sods are probably gutted we equalised. If the players are missing chances, what is the manager supposed to do?

3 games undefeated, could be the start of a good run.
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balderdash to all the knockers. Spirit to come from behind again. Sort the daft goals out and we are right.


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Sounds that JP Pitman deserves a start Friday.


Sleep well Icey, Matty and Richard. Keep each other company up there xx

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So pleased we didn't lose that.


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The worst thing about tonight is failing to capitalise on others slipping up, yet again. Gained a point but it should have been three.
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Happy to have equalised but personally I expected to win tonight
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We gain a point on FGR but deary, deary me....where is the belief, the sustained periods of attack and, of course, the goals??


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And the negativity of some of you lot doesnt deserve promotion. Its as if you want the team to lose so PH gets the sack. Forgive me for getting just a little bit happy because we scored a late equaliser and gained a point on the leaders.
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Conceding in every game, with many unforced defensive errrors.  Forwards missing enough good chances to cost us many points.

Before tonight we had scored in every away game, in all competitions, for something like 28 consecutive games.   We had even scored 2 at Chester last season.  



IS THAT 29 games now then.  


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Leagues underdogs claim massive point at Chester let all go mad... Well done ph Grimsby legend in the making


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All expected and wanted the win but an unbeaten run continues. Might as well get behind them hadn't we?
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Delighted we got the equaliser but terrible result, we are not good enough, things need to change, season over
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Well seriously i think after nearly five years in this excrement hole please forgive me for not wanking myself into oblivion for snatching a draw at chester ffs.


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Well, I suppose it's good to see the strikers are still managing to get some goals. Both in the top scorers list. Problem is that it is still taking several good chances for them to score. Didn't listen to the game, but judging by the comments in this thread, another couple of points chucked away in the grand scheme of things.

We've got to either score more goals or sort out the defence to move onwards and upwards. Preferably both.  
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Can't believe how pissy people get.

I've not managed an away game yet but I have been to every home game this season. In all the games I've seen at home we have largely dominated apart from one half against Torquay.

This side is well good enough to get promoted this season. You'd have to be clueless to think otherwise.

Yes, results haven't been as good as we'd hope but the problem is conceding some soft goals. Hurst strengths for me has always been his defence so I believe he will sort that out. Once he does, I have every confidence we'll go on a long unbeaten run in this league.
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Conceding in every game, with many unforced defensive errrors.  Forwards missing enough good chances to cost us many points.

Before tonight we had scored in every away game, in all competitions, for something like 28 consecutive games.   We had even scored 2 at Chester last season.  


And we've still scored in every away game, in all competitions, for something like 28 29 consecutive games!  

Just.


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Unbelievable - if you can't enjoy a last minute equaliser then what's the point?


You are unbelievable


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It's a two way street for me.

We should be winning these games and we came very close to yet another stupid loss.

However, great character yet again. We've rescued so many points this season solely due to character. We've also conceded what sounds like a very harsh penalty and otherwise not really been threatened.

I see positives and negatives.
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Quoted from TownSNAFU5:  (5 mins ago).
Conceding in every game, with many unforced defensive errrors.  Forwards missing enough good chances to cost us many points.

Before tonight we had scored in every away game, in all competitions, for something like 28 consecutive games.   We had even scored 2 at Chester last season.  

............................

I tempted fate and we scored!  A point gained on FGR before we even play them.
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Feels like a win, great tenacity to keep going for goal till the end. Don't understand the same negative posters repeating themselves time after time. It's as if you thrive on losing and only comment when you have something negative to say. People would have far more respect for you if you actually gave credit when it is due. UTM


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And the negativity of some of you lot doesnt deserve promotion. Its as if you want the team to lose so PH gets the sack. Forgive me for getting just a little bit happy because we scored a late equaliser and gained a point on the leaders.


Let's be happy that we've conceded for the 10th game in a row. Please forgive me for pointing out that we will never be promoted if that continues and that we have the most contrary, negative manager in the club's history and that we are in the lowest league we've ever been in.

So basically, shutthefuckup and allow us to voice our alternative opinion.
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And the negativity of some of you lot doesnt deserve promotion. Its as if you want the team to lose so PH gets the sack. Forgive me for getting just a little bit happy because we scored a late equaliser and gained a point on the leaders.


It's not negativity in my case; it's resignation. I'm delighted we scored a deserved goal but i still see no signs that Hurst has what it takes to get us promoted, which is a worry after the amount of time he's had.

People say that missing chances is not the managers fault but it is his job to find a solution and his job to stop us leaking silly goals. Neither of which he has yet done.

If that's negativity, then so be it.
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And the negativity of some of you lot doesnt deserve promotion. Its as if you want the team to lose so PH gets the sack. Forgive me for getting just a little bit happy because we scored a late equaliser and gained a point on the leaders.


I will always want Town to win while Hurst is in charge but if we don't go up this season and he is kept on, then i will still want Town to win while Hurst is in charge unfortunately, fool me.


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So basically, shutthefuckup and allow us to voice our alternative opinion.


*IRONY CLAXON*
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Delighted we got the equaliser but terrible result, we are not good enough, things need to change, season over


How is a draw away from home a terrible result? How is the season over when we've gained a point on the leaders? Some people won't be happy unless we win every game which is completely unrealistic no matter who the manager is.
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Not the win though is it


You just replied to your own post, do you like arguing with yourself as well as everyone else?
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How is a draw away from home a terrible result? How is the season over when we've gained a point on the leaders? Some people won't be happy unless we win every game which is completely unrealistic no matter who the manager is.


Erm, because we've dropped 2 points against another team in the bottom half?
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I have never been a PH fan but, speaking about homecgames only, I have to say the quality of our football this season is much improved and we are creating more chances then I can remember for many a season.

We all also hailed Paddy & Omar's arrival & pre-season goals but despite scoring regularly they still miss a lot of chances.

Personally I would rather watch those two than LJL & Hannah up front and from everything I have seen & read had we taken 75 per cent of chances provided we have won every match.

Thus on this occasion I feel we should cut PH some slack as we did in great numbers bemoan the lack of entertainment provided by town in previous seasons. A harsh penalty tonight and missed chances cannot all be placed at PH's door.

I repeat what I said Saturday though that without a commanding midfield player the quality of our other players may go to waste. We normally start to kick on in October so fingers crossed that we repeat this again this year.
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Rant over from me 1 point gained! For sure ref shocking again that's 6years we have being saying that but we have just got a point away from home so credit we're it due.

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Assuming you werent there Id be interested in how in your valued opinion the way the team was set up could be considered negative. He played the  same team that scored 4  on Saturday......for an away game.


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Erm, because we've dropped 2 points against another team in the bottom half?


Chester were in the top half of the table before the game tonight!


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Let's be happy that we've conceded for the 10th game in a row. Please forgive me for pointing out that we will never be promoted if that continues and that we have the most contrary, negative manager in the club's history and that we are in the lowest league we've ever been in.

So basically, shutthefuckup and allow us to voice our alternative opinion.


So the disappointment of conceding a goal outweighs the joy of a last minute equaliser? Will you celebrate a clean sheet like the rest of us do a goal? That's definitely an alternative opinion.
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And the "were you there" card is played.


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Everyone is entitled to their opinion and has every right to air it, however certain posters cannot bring themselves to offer any positivity when we play well. They don't go to games and come out in force when they think we are losing or have lost. Well, sodomist off and find some balance. When we play poor, I admit it and vice versa, just don't focus on the negative. We can do this UTM.


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You just replied to your own post, do you like arguing with yourself as well as everyone else?


Yeah I do.....you fancy a row


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1 point gained over forest green is a bonus but was such a frustrating game but it didn't need to be. Just need to score our early chances in the first half and we would be flying. Looking at the table and I would say our start is average but Luton had same amount of points after this amount of games and won league Mansfield even less so loads to play for 3 points Friday please town.


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Happy to have equalised but personally I expected to win tonight


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Everyone is entitled to their opinion and has every right to air it, however certain posters cannot bring themselves to offer any positivity when we play well. They don't go to games and come out in force when they think we are losing or have lost. Well, sodomist off and find some balance. When we play poor, I admit it and vice versa, just don't focus on the negative. We can do this UTM.


So all the naysayers are people who don't attend games and only post when we lose?

Sorry, that's bollox.
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And the "were you there" card is played.


Valid play of the card in fairness. Especially when the rest of the post in question has been conveniently ignored.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion and has every right to air it, however certain posters cannot bring themselves to offer any positivity when we play well. They don't go to games and come out in force when they think we are losing or have lost. Well, sodomist off and find some balance. When we play poor, I admit it and vice versa, just don't focus on the negative. We can do this UTM.


I suggest you look at the Just Back thread after Saturday if you're aiming that comment my way.
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Too bloody  right  the was you there card was played. It is the only way to counter such ridiculous accusations. Only someone who wasnt there could come up with something so blatantly wrong


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Anyone know what the performance was like? Before we go too far in our condemnation/ adulation
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And the "were you there" card is played.


Asking what the views of people at the game will be isn't "playing a card". It is wondering what viewers thought about the game because they, you know, were actually there.

We know that Tondeur makes some games sound doom-laden so a different viewpoint is useful. I don't actually listen to games myself these days but all the posts in this thread are obviously based on his commentary so, as always, I'm interested in reading the 'Just back' threads. In general, it sounds like a performance typical of this season - missed chances, soft goal conceded etc etc. Let's see if the folks who went to the game say anything different!
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So all the naysayers are people who don't attend games and only post when we lose?

Sorry, that's bollox.


No, not all, but the majority who post on here whinge and complain, never offering anything other than 'Hurst out' comments etc, rather than highlighting anything positive ie. A last gasp equaliser away from home. Notice how they all stopped posting when we scored? Coincidence? No.


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Were you there barra ?

Just asking.


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People say that missing chances is not the managers fault but it is his job to find a solution and his job to stop us leaking silly goals. Neither of which he has yet done.



Ok, it's all well and good to say it's his job to sort out individual aberrations but just exactly how does he do that? There's nothing Hurst could have done in his preparations or tactics that would have stopped Robertson taking Hannah's legs or Bogle missing a sitter. We've not been outplayed in any games yet this season. If we were being outplayed, believe me, I'd be less than happy. As we're not and with Hurst's track record with the defence, I have belief that we will soon start keeping clean sheets. It's not excrement or twist time...yet.
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Were you there barra ?

Just asking.


He was.


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Asking what the views of people at the game will be isn't "playing a card". It is wondering what viewers thought about the game because they, you know, were actually there.

We know that Tondeur makes some games sound doom-laden so a different viewpoint is useful. I don't actually listen to games myself these days but all the posts in this thread are obviously based on his commentary so, as always, I'm interested in reading the 'Just back' threads. In general, it sounds like a performance typical of this season - missed chances, soft goal conceded etc etc. Let's see if the folks who went to the game say anything different!

Disgraceful comments maringer.fancy wanting to get a balanced view. Unbelievable.
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Too bloody  right  the was you there card was played. It is the only way to counter such ridiculous accusations. Only someone who wasnt there could come up with something so blatantly wrong


Disappointed that you feel that a point away from home against a team below us in the fifth tier is something to celebrate Barra. Just shows how far we have fallen.
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Well currently no.


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If the club is serious about us winning the league we have to be far more ruthless otherwise it's the lottery of play off's yet again, which is looking more and more likely.  I'm really relieved we salvaged a point because a draw on tonight's performance was just about fair.

However, Chester have reformed and come back up the leagues and were an even match for us tonight.  This scenario should never have been able to come to fruition. We are treading water when we should be treading on the destroyed souls of our opposition.

We need to be getting stuck into the opposition from the first to last whistle, tonight's performance wasn't good enough for a team with notions of getting out of this league. Hurst can make all the excuses or arrogant remarks he likes but his team doesn't convince me that we have the consistent performances to out point our potential promotion rivals.

Paul Hurst and the players need to start showing their war faces because at the minute they aren't scaring the opposition.

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Ok, it's all well and good to say it's his job to sort out individual aberrations but just exactly how does he do that? There's nothing Hurst could have done in his preparations or tactics that would have stopped Robertson taking Hannah's legs or Bogle missing a sitter. We've not been outplayed in any games yet this season. If we were being outplayed, believe me, I'd be less than happy. As we're not and with Hurst's track record with the defence, I have belief that we will soon start keeping clean sheets. It's not excrement or twist time...yet.


I don't know but good managers do, which is what makes them good obviously.
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Asking what the views of people at the game will be isn't "playing a card". It is wondering what viewers thought about the game because they, you know, were actually there.

We know that Tondeur makes some games sound doom-laden so a different viewpoint is useful. I don't actually listen to games myself these days but all the posts in this thread are obviously based on his commentary so, as always, I'm interested in reading the 'Just back' threads. In general, it sounds like a performance typical of this season - missed chances, soft goal conceded etc etc. Let's see if the folks who went to the game say anything different!


I do listen to games but i have this habit of turning it off when we are losing because i can't listen, so i watch latest scores and if we equalise then i go back to the commentary.


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No, not all, but the majority who post on here whinge and complain, never offering anything other than 'Hurst out' comments etc, rather than highlighting anything positive ie. A last gasp equaliser away from home. Notice how they all stopped posting when we scored? Coincidence? No.


Fair enough. There is a bit of that going on i accept.
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Of course I  was there. I wasnt on Saturday so refrained from any sort of comment-mainly because I dont feel able to offer anything to a thread for a game I havent seen...Maybe itd just me...


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By the way Ginny, You are not one of the negative posters to whom I was referring!


Ok, wasn't thinking that anyway.
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Let's be happy that we've conceded for the 10th game in a row. Please forgive me for pointing out that we will never be promoted if that continues and that we have the most contrary, negative manager in the club's history and that we are in the lowest league we've ever been in.

So basically, shutthefuckup and allow us to voice our alternative opinion.


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It's a point away and we've gained points on lots if teams above.  I'm not over the moon but not devastated either.  One thing I will say is I'm seeing a lot of interviews on MP about Hurst saying how good we've been and Amond saying how good Robertson and Bogle are and how the squad can beat anyone on its day and will always create chances and we've been in good form it's not a blip etc etc... I think it's all good having belief, but there comes a time when they all need to stop blowing smoke up each other and just go out there and do what they all think and state regularly that they're capable of.  Maybe let someone know in training about a poor finish it a loose pass... It all comes across very nice at the minute, fair play if it works but 2 wins in the last 7 didn't suggest that. I think confidence and self belief is a good thing, but they need to make sure they don't get delusional or complacent.  We've only seen they're capable against newly promoted teams really so I currently think they need to be told they're actually not performing anywhere near what's expected of them in games against more capable opposition. I like Hurst and still support him and I'm also not a manager, but it was an observation that was stRting to irritate me.  Hopefully see a bit more anger and fight on Friday from a team that look like they've been told they need to improve, rather than they've been unlucky.
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It's a point away and we've gained points on lots if teams above.  I'm not over the moon but not devastated either.  One thing I will say is I'm seeing a lot of interviews on MP about Hurst saying how good we've been and Amond saying how good Robertson and Bogle are and how the squad can beat anyone on its day and will always create chances and we've been in good form it's not a blip etc etc... I think it's all good having belief, but there comes a time when they all need to stop blowing smoke up each other and just go out there and do what they all think and state regularly that they're capable of.  Maybe let someone know in training about a poor finish it a loose pass... It all comes across very nice at the minute, fair play if it works but 2 wins in the last 7 didn't suggest that. I think confidence and self belief is a good thing, but they need to make sure they don't get delusional or complacent.  We've only seen they're capable against newly promoted teams really so I currently think they need to be told they're actually not performing anywhere near what's expected of them in games against more capable opposition. I like Hurst and still support him and I'm also not a manager, but it was an observation that was stRting to irritate me.  Hopefully see a bit more anger and fight on Friday from a team that look like they've been told they need to improve, rather than they've been unlucky.


Good post


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Its the other top of the league chart im interested in , ya know the one with points at the end of the column.


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For what it's worth I actually think Robinson is a good player  


Agreed


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Listening to the match I would say a draw was a fair result,obviously not one we wanted but the only way Chester was going to score was a penalty, Hannah must have gone down five or six times in the box trying to con the ref,it was only going to be a matter of time before he was awarded one and a very soft one it was. Our lads showed great spirit to keep going up to the final whistle and get something out of the game. Looking back to the same fixture last season, being two up then conceeding two late goals in the manner we did makes tonights draw a bit easier to swallow. Get back to winning ways again friday and tonight will be a distant memory. Just a shame we didn't take all three points tonight as teams above dropped points. A long way to go yet with plenty of points left to play for.
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Great video clip of the equaliser, taken from behind the goal, doing the rounds on Twitter. Great reaction from Town fans as you might imagine!
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Great video clip of the equaliser, taken from behind the goal, doing the rounds on Twitter. Great reaction from Town fans as you might imagine!


I don't do twitter you teaser, can it be posted on here please.


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[url]https://twitter.com/gtfchayden/status/643894647534829570[/url]
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Good post from springstomind, again no chances, can't remember the chester keeper making a save in the first half unless we are to get excited about shots and chances that go into row z, the team looks unbalanced to me, tempo only improved in the last 10 minutes, with Arnold looking much more at home on the left, got to say it Jp looked the part.
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Didnt the keeper save with his feet and body from two Bogle efforts in the first half?


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Strangely didn't feel too negative when we were losing. Sounded like we payed quite well. Maybe it was because I just had the radio on in the background while I was working so wasn't fully engaged.

The draw feels more like a win especially as it's a tiny amount clawed off FGR.


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[url]https://twitter.com/gtfchayden/status/643894647534829570[/url]


So pleased that went in at the death....we deserved it for going three up top and three at the back, pushing all out for the equaliser

Just listen though to all those "Hurst Out" chants amongst the travelling fans....oh hang on. There weren't any!!  

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For what it's worth I actually think Robinson is a good player  


I thought he was quite dreadful tonight, weak and gave the ball away.
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First time I've seen him, but Robinson looked awful, what was he doing early second half when he wouldn't offload and ran straight into traffic in the centre of the pitch?
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I thought he was quite dreadful tonight, weak and gave the ball away.



Where have I heard that before, not a promotion player IMO. Cue Luton comments bla bla bla
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First time I've seen him, but Robinson looked awful, what was he doing early second half when he wouldn't offload and ran straight into traffic in the centre of the pitch?



You could've taken Robinson's name out of that sentence and substituted Monkhouse, Arnold, etc. etc.


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