Match Thread

2 changes Bogle & Robertson in

Glad to see Bogle given a run but by all accounts Hoban had his best game so far so a slight surprise. Horwood coming out is a surprise too unless he's injured.

Wonder if 2 games in 3 days is just a bit much for them at the moment. Neither played huge amounts of football this season.

So no Pearson again.  I very much doubt Macclesfield have a quick forward.  Does Pearson deserve to be dropped.  Dont agree with Robertson the lad is crocked.  Glad to see Bogle given a go and hope Stewart gets a chance.  I hope the changes dont come to bit us on the bottom.

Quoted from Rodley Mariner

Wonder if 2 games in 3 days is just a bit much for them at the moment. Neither played huge amounts of football this season.

That would be my guess, particularly Hoban.

Let's hope we start positive but tight at the back, we don't concede an early goal and to have to chase the game.

The Vegans are 1 up

Friday game in mind as well with the changes

If we don't win this then Friday's game will be meaningless

THAT'S MORE LIKE IT COME ON TOWN.

FFS

Bloody hell 😔

Wakey wakey town !!!

Ffs town we always stuggle against these girl privates

Oh well.  Lol

It's what separates us from FGR and Cheltenham, they don't concede goals against the run of play like we do.
Good test for us though, plenty of time to hit back.

This formation with only one winger only really works against a Gary Mills type team, wrong formation to start the game in the first place

Can anyone ever remember us playing well twice in the same week ?
Looks like another one of our one step forward two steps back days

They are one of our worse bogey teams and they way its panning out i hope we get back in this like someone else says friday will be pointless.  I wonder if PH shares the same as we do in trying to win all games.

Long time left yet. But it is exactly why we arent top of this league

This sounds dire.

All Macclesfield at the min we aint even left the coach yet so bloody annoyjng.

Braintree 1 point behind us at it stands. Played one more than us though, but puts the whole big-crowd/budget needed argument to rest.

Clay off Jennings on

I said the formation wasn't right in the first place !

Head - keyboard - slam

Something had to change, when Hurst made the change on Saturday it was to counter Wrexham tactically. Today it seems to solely be because it worked out with no tactical thought towards this game.

Hoping that 1-0 down at HT, 2-1 win prediction comes to pass!

We may as well go for it now get Hoban or Stewart on.

Quoted from grimps

Can anyone ever remember us playing well twice in the same week ?
Looks like another one of our one step forward two steps back days

Seem to remember us scoring 13 in a weekend last season

We are not playing that bad! The ref is poor and Hurst made the right change, taking Clay off, he was playing terribly.

Come on Town, this is a big disappointment so far. Big effort second half, early goal please.

Apparently Bogle is having a mare for some reason

I dont think Robertson played well either....given the ball away in the first half that nearly put us 1 down.  

Get the new lad on

Nolan yeeeeeeeeees

Yeees

YEAH!!

Radio is like 2 mins behind get innn    

Get in Nolan - we're on our way.. we're on our way!

Still havent scored on radio

Quoted from zorro_is_a_Mariner

Still havent scored on radio

Might be worth pressing Refresh, see if you can catch up.

It all town now....arnold and dizza getting closer

Cmon town

Come on town 1 more

How do we keep doing this to ourselves?

Losing ffs town

C,Mon Town.  wakey wakey!!

We're goning to win 3-2

Another goal against (sigh) the run of play. I will never ever work out how such a good, ordered defence can let in so many goals from such a small amount of chances.

Styche..... I hate that bloke

At least Braintree are now losing.

Styche shouldn't even be player he should be suspended after elbowing a opposition player on Saturday.

Is Stewart on yet

If this isn't the time to throw Stewart on I don't know what is.

Last chance saloon at the title gone me feels

Titles been gone weeks. We arent good enougj

The title went along time ago but momentum into the play offs is what's needed, I booked my hotel today for the  play off final I'm still hopeful

Quoted from Hagrid

Titles been gone weeks. We arent good enougj

We may be OK for the play offs, but not the title

I dont think PH shared the same enthusiasm for the title.  I have no idea why he made changes if he says to keep players fresh its all bollox did he rest Disley, no.  He messed up and its egg on his face.

Oh well playoff it is.  

Pearson on??? FFS. Hurst is a bit odd at times.

Is anyone surprised? Hurst is the footballing equivalent of a member tease.

If I was Pearson I'd tell him to ram it.

You're losing, you sign a new guy and he's sat on the flipping bench whilst you put a centre back up top! Why sign him in the first place if you're not going to bother using him? Some of these loan signing absolutely baffle me.

One step forward, two steps back and it's all just predictable again.

Bet Cheltenham lose tonight and we win on Friday to rub salt in further.

I bet any other team in any position in the League would have brought in Stewart to USE in games, particularly when chasing a 1 goal deficit in the final minutes.
It's almost like Hurst panics when he gets credit for a game, and goes against logic and basic common sense to annoy the fans.

Dissapointing

Quoted from pontoonlew

You're losing, you sign a new guy and he's sat on the flipping bench whilst you put a centre back up top! Why sign him in the first place if you're not going to bother using him? Some of these loan signing absolutely baffle me.

One step forward, two steps back and it's all just predictable again.

Agree the man is clueless.

And Forest Green drop points again just to rub salt in the wound

If I was Jordan Stewart I'll be asking Paul Hurst a few questions

All I can say is Hurst gave up on the title leaving a attacking player on the bench for a defender albeit a make shift target man who does not score many ????? Totally puzzled.

Hurst sorry you got this wrong very badly wrong.

Quoted from bawarmy

Agree the man is clueless.

You have to put some blame on the players, they were useless today and not being consistent spoils all the good work previously done on the Saturday

Frustration! Dissapointing!

Fgr concede in the last minute and, in all honesty, we lose the perfect opportunity to stack the pressure on the top too. It now takes all the pressure off cheltenham tonight. The games in hand now don't in reality mean a lot. 8 points dropped against far weaker opposition in the past few weeks is what has let us down. Ah, but we're probably still being spoiled

Let's just hope Macc don't surge into the play-offs or we're sodomist'd.

  
You dont know what you,re doing !  You tried the same formation as Saturday but you didn,t play your attacking fullback to compensate for not having winger.  You didn,t play your runner. You didn,t think again .  You dont know what you,re doing.

You took the accolades on Saturday  so you,ve got to take the blame today.

Will be worse if Wrexham win today

just had phone call from friend at match. Hurst has got it all wrong today, he leaves our new player on the bench when we needed him. He brings on Pearson when we are crying out for an attacker to get a result, all through the game Hurst had his arms folded while Chris Doig was going ballistic with the players, urging them on. Sorry Mr. Hurst but you have thrown the slim chance away.
Utterly gutted by the result, we are now in the play offs. The result will not affect anything on Friday against Cheltenham, the substitutions were appawling in my eyes, you never urge the players on in the game, I dearly wish we get promotion through the play offs, but I sincerely hope you are not in charge next season. I don't mind the red crosses on this, its my personal opinion and I'm sure a lot of others. Disgusted.

dropped points at Gateshead, Halifax, Guisley and now Macclesfield have really done for us in the pas couple of months. 11 points!

If and it's a big if, Town go up through the play-offs, it will be despite Hurst rather than because of Hurst. The guy is holding our club back..

(I'll still be there on Friday though) 🙄

Look, it's nothing new. We've seen it all before. It's Hurst isn't it - nobody should be surprised. And the players...? Turned up for about 20 minutes and then capitulated to a very average team with nothing to play for, who haven't managed to win at home since November! All in all, unsurprisingly pathetic.

Hurst did get it wrong today but my God, how are the players getting away with barely any criticism here. I saw an interview with Graeme Souness the other week were he said players get away with murder nowadays, escape a large amount of criticism which is then diverted to the manager. I can't help but feel he's right.

Shame we didn't take at least a point from this. With a difficult run of fixtures coming up I fear we'll be looking over our shoulders. Tranmere have a decent run-in and have a feeling they'll sneak into the play-offs - hopefully not at our expense.

Quoted from Mariner93er

Hurst did get it wrong today but my God, how are the players getting away with barely any criticism here. I saw an interview with Graeme Souness the other week were he said players get away with murder nowadays, escape a large amount of criticism which is then diverted to the manager. I can't help but feel he's right.

I'm sure that the supporters who suffered the non performance today will have plenty to say about the players when they return tonight. By the sounds of it, they did little to deserve that fabulous travelling backing they received today.

Quoted from davmariner

Shame we didn't take at least a point from this. With a difficult run of fixtures coming up I fear we'll be looking over our shoulders. Tranmere have a decent run-in and have a feeling they'll sneak into the play-offs - hopefully not at our expense.

It's the better teams i dont fear us playing though..The crud well that's a different story.  

Quoted from Sigone

It's the better teams i dont fear us playing though..The crud well that's a different story.  

Thats all very well but its not logic is it,  and its a pattern that could easily change come the play offs

Quoted from Mariner93er

Hurst did get it wrong today but my God, how are the players getting away with barely any criticism here. I saw an interview with Graeme Souness the other week were he said players get away with murder nowadays, escape a large amount of criticism which is then diverted to the manager. I can't help but feel he's right.

You've made a really good point there. But the manager is there to inspire confidence and set out tactics the players will believe in. If us fans find it hard to find any inspiration in Hurst, imagine how the players feel working with him day in day out. I don't think he morphs into Alex Ferguson on the training ground. He also picks the team, the formation and orders them to play to a certain style, method and shape.

Some players have been tossing it off for weeks. Unfortunately, like the manager, they think they just need to get to the play offs and that will do for now.

Quoted from Bigdog

You've made a really good point there. But the manager is there to inspire confidence and set out tactics the players will believe in. If us fans find it hard to find any inspiration in Hurst, imagine how the players feel working with him day in day out. I don't think he morphs into Alex Ferguson on the training ground. He also picks the team, the formation and orders them to play to a certain style, method and shape.

I honestly believe the impact a manager can have on confidence is limited, with previous performances dictating it much more. And you're right, and maybe his tactics weren't correct today. But what about the other times we've failed to beat lower opposition when the tactic used has worked previously, surely that is a result of the player rather than the manager. I'm not saying Hurst should avoid criticism, but I do feel he is really let down by the players on days like this.

It'd be great if we could take off one of these under performing players and put a new, chomping at the bit player, eager to prove himself in their place.
Sort of substituting one player for another in a (get this bit!) tactical way.

It could take off, who knows.

Quoted from Garth

Thats all very well but its not logic is it,  and its a pattern that could easily change come the play offs

Football is never logical...Seems that when the players feel a challenge they rise to it..Motivation from either the management team OR the players individually(collectively)  should be called into question.

Quoted from Mariner93er

I honestly believe the impact a manager can have on confidence is limited, with previous performances dictating it much more. And you're right, and maybe his tactics weren't correct today. But what about the other times we've failed to beat lower opposition when the tactic used has worked previously, surely that is a result of the player rather than the manager. I'm not saying Hurst should avoid criticism, but I do feel he is really let down by the players on days like this.

I meant players personal confidence in team selection, management of squad, signings, formation etc. Results and performances do breed confidence though. It's more about whether the players fully buy into his decisions. I think scraping a few wins has papered over the cracks since Halifax. The Bogle outburst was clear evidence that the squad's faith in Hurst's decisions was running a little thin. It has left us brittle when it comes to performances and I'm worried that a team like Tranmere will have the real momentum going into the play offs.

Quoted from RoboCod

It'd be great if we could take off one of these under performing players and put a new, chomping at the bit player, eager to prove himself in their place.
Sort of substituting one player for another in a (get this bit!) tactical way.

It could take off, who knows.

Jordan Stewart???

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Some players have been tossing it off for weeks. Unfortunately, like the manager, they think they just need to get to the play offs and that will do for now.

That's the problem with the manager he always talk about the playoffs and Wembley  so I believe that's the route he's taken. Glory hunting at Wembley.  

I think Tranmere could just miss out. Eastleigh are making a late push and I see it being between Town, Braintree, Dover and them to make the playoffs. We are not guaranteed a place!
If we lose Friday it will give the teams below a chance to close the gap

I think sometines the changes to a winning team may have had a negative effect mentally.  Imagine having a stormer then dropped how do the other players react.  Like that.

We need a new manager with fresh ideas as PH imo has gone stale.  How can JF defend him is beyond.  I wonder if JF ever thinks why PH.

If Cheltenham lose to Wrexham, not that much has actually changed from the start of the day, apart from there being one game less. Bromleys late equaliser could actually be quite useful (still dreaming)

Well done to the 900+ that went today, another great effort from the fans and one that deserves more from both management and players TBH.

Could not go today as had to choose between today and Friday so difficult to comment on what we did/ did not do or should have done etc..  

The title was probably gone in the period between the August BH (when we again lost to Macclesfield) and the end of September when we took 11 points from 21, bridging that gap has proved too much.

I don't know what the solution is but I know that this is difficult to take, especially when FGR drop points. Maybe we should have gone to Macclesfield today set up not to lose and anything else would have been a bonus.

Hurst Out? Not yet but ultimately that feels like the only way forward. I just wonder what Gary Mills would do with our squad?      

Pahahahahah wrexham winning!! Unbelievable

Quoted from Hagrid

Pahahahahah wrexham winning!! Unbelievable

FFS.........