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Rodley Mariner
October 5, 2015, 2:16pm
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The Hurst out brigade must be starting to shout louder than the happy clappers as Pete has switched over. Again.
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The Hurst out brigade must be starting to shout louder than the happy clappers as Pete has switched over. Again.


Nah not us shouting, just the manager messing around to much with the team


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October 5, 2015, 2:32pm
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Nah not us shouting, just the manager messing around to much with the team


Err he didn't mess around with it. He played the same team that won the previous game 4-0. I thought you were unhappy because he didn't mess with it enough?


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Err he didn't mess around with it. He played the same team that won the previous game 4-0. I thought you were unhappy because he didn't mess with it enough?


He didn't need to mess around with the team that started banging goals in for fun, but has dropped a player for missing a header at Altrincham.  He needs to take a look back over the last two seasons when ljl missed loads of chances, but no, never dropped him did he.
He's asking for trouble messing around like he's doing and it will bite him on the bottom eventually. The bloke has managed to kill off all the expectations what come with operation promotion and pre season. To be sitting 10th is not good enough IMO and its down to the manager and the way he sets his teams up.
The last few games the full backs have started hitting the long ball again into the channels in the hope of finding a striker. Were going back to the same way of playing again as we have done the last two seasons, boring, slow and very, very predictable


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He didn't need to mess around with the team that started banging goals in for fun, but has dropped a player for missing a header at Altrincham.  He needs to take a look back over the last two seasons when ljl missed loads of chances, but no, never dropped him did he.
He's asking for trouble messing around like he's doing and it will bite him on the bottom eventually. The bloke has managed to kill off all the expectations what come with operation promotion and pre season. To be sitting 10th is not good enough IMO and its down to the manager and the way he sets his teams up.
The last few games the full backs have started hitting the long ball again into the channels in the hope of finding a striker. Were going back to the same way of playing again as we have done the last two seasons, boring, slow and very, very predictable


In all honesty you cannot say that the highlighted point is true. Does anyone really think Amond was "dropped" because of that one thing? It's barely credible. It's something of a sweeping statement to say that Hurst has killed off all pre-season/op. prom. expectations.
We'll have to agree to disagree about positions in the table. I happen to believe that it makes no difference overall at all. We are nearer the top now than we were four games ago when people were bleating on here that we couldn't possibly make up 12(?) points on FGR..


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I don't think the money matters. OK we know some was spent on Bogle and we probably wouldn't have got him otherwise but that's still a secondary consideration when we think back to Operation Promotion.

Remember those heady days of optimism? We were all convinced that this would be our year. The team that was grinding out results last year only needed that bit of flair and striker power and we were off and running. The pre-season and even the first few games went by and our optimism probably grew. Four goals at home!! Unheard of. It seemed as though the signings had done the trick and the manager was converted to letting our team go for the jugular against any opposition.

Where are we now? Grinding out away results and home games settling back into the time worn routine of playing to nullify opposition and hoping for the best. Long periods of long ball for the knock on and short periods of passing. The strikers who looked so good are now bench warmers. We still lack depth in midfield and we play with one and a half wingers at most with rarely a decent cross into the box.

Everyone is agreed that this is our best ever Conference squad and it's almost complete, but here we are in 10th place and not looking as though those few minutes of passing will ever become more than that and our threat in the box depends on an injury prone reserve and a loanee.

If anyone had told us in July that this is where we would be and how we would be playing I'm sure Operation Promotion wouldn't have made £10k let alone £110K. That's the real price we've paid - being over-optimistic and believing our manager would take our team and take our league by storm when it's just not in his nature.


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Am I missing something or in our last 3 games have we been the first team to get a result at Wrexham all season, won 4-0 away and then edged a draw against the team who are top of the league and the champions-elect according to many on here?
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Am I missing something or in our last 3 games have we been the first team to get a result at Wrexham all season, won 4-0 away and then edged a draw against the team who are top of the league and the champions-elect according to many on here?


True enough. But why then do people think this is a knife edge? One thing is that we HAD to get a result at Wrexham & Southport or we would have been lower than 10th because of previous results. Your point is fair enough Rodley, If it had been 9 points or even 7 with 3 outstanding performances your argument would be stronger though.


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I'm obviously in the pro-Hurst camp but a few weeks ago I'll admit i was getting pretty concerned as we were 13 (?) points off the top of the league and when I looked at the fixture list we had a pretty tough run coming up. We've not been brilliant in that stretch but we're putting an unbeaten run together, we're about to come out of the tough run and we've virtually halved the gap to the top. Ignore league position, because at this point of the season it doesn't matter as much as points, and we really aren't that far off it.

I get why some people aren't happy, I get that the team selections can infuriate and I get thst this season hasn't been what we wanted but I really don't get the near vitriol from some posters and the demand for the managers head at this moment in time.
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Am I missing something or in our last 3 games have we been the first team to get a result at Wrexham all season, won 4-0 away and then edged a draw against the team who are top of the league and the champions-elect according to many on here?


Yet we are still tenth.


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