I wonder who the mystery investor is?

PP,PB and PW. Are we all talking in some kind of code I know nothing of and so cannot follow the thread?

Garth Lane is an absolute non-starter for two reasons.  As Rob-in-Grimsby says, there just isn't enough land - and secondly if you think that Peaks Parkway would cause traffic problems that would be nothing compared to Garth Lane!

Freeman Street certainly has merits but it would take 10 years minimum.

The other problem which blights all the plans except Peaks Parkway is the potential for an enabling development - how on earth is the Club going to find 20 odd million to build a stadium without it?  

As I've said several times, what's the problem with being next to Morrisons?

Though we had a mystery investor Tarka or is this a red hearing to try and force the councils hand?

I have no idea to be honest - but an investor means just that! They'll expect a return on their investment!

I find all this emphasis on existing access routes a bit of a non-starter. Much is made on any site being close to the A180 but apart from visiting fans how many football fans coming into town use this route compared to those from the rest of the town? I would imagine a greater number come down the Peaks Parkway from the Walthams, Scartho and Holton le Clay areas. The Peaks Parkway has the ability to be turned into a dual-carriageway ( which it should have been in the first place ) and certainly will be in the future when more out of town development is done in that direction. Surely it would be better for the football traffic to come down the Parkway for half its length to access a ground than to travel the full distance into the centre of town and create more of a bottle neck in the centre. We also have the rail link mentioned but the only stations that are used for connections to other major areas only stop at Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes. None of the Rail Companies that use the route into Grimsby would change their timetables to accommodate  stopping at Grimsby Docks or Clee Sidings just because of possible football related passengers on 23 occasions a year - it just won't happen. There are no bus routes on the Parkway but they will come once the area becomes developed. Bus routes were introduced once the Willows Estate was developed in the late 60's and that service was extended when Wybers Wood was built in the late 70's. Once an area comes into commercial/habitation use then the public bus service will follow.

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I find all this emphasis on existing access routes a bit of a non-starter. Much is made on any site being close to the A180 but apart from visiting fans how many football fans coming into town use this route compared to those from the rest of the town? I would imagine a greater number come down the Peaks Parkway from the Walthams, Scartho and Holton le Clay areas. The Peaks Parkway has the ability to be turned into a dual-carriageway ( which it should have been in the first place ) and certainly will be in the future when more out of town development is done in that direction. Surely it would be better for the football traffic to come down the Parkway for half its length to access a ground than to travel the full distance into the centre of town and create more of a bottle neck in the centre. We also have the rail link mentioned but the only stations that are used for connections to other major areas only stop at Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes. None of the Rail Companies that use the route into Grimsby would change their timetables to accommodate  stopping at Grimsby Docks or Clee Sidings just because of possible football related passengers on 23 occasions a year - it just won't happen. There are no bus routes on the Parkway but they will come once the area becomes developed. Bus routes were introduced once the Willows Estate was developed in the late 60's and that service was extended when Wybers Wood was built in the late 70's. Once an area comes into commercial/habitation use then the public bus service will follow.

Exactly what I said in my post yesterday........ And totally agree with the rest of your post

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I find all this emphasis on existing access routes a bit of a non-starter. Much is made on any site being close to the A180 but apart from visiting fans how many football fans coming into town use this route compared to those from the rest of the town? I would imagine a greater number come down the Peaks Parkway from the Walthams, Scartho and Holton le Clay areas. The Peaks Parkway has the ability to be turned into a dual-carriageway ( which it should have been in the first place ) and certainly will be in the future when more out of town development is done in that direction. Surely it would be better for the football traffic to come down the Parkway for half its length to access a ground than to travel the full distance into the centre of town and create more of a bottle neck in the centre. We also have the rail link mentioned but the only stations that are used for connections to other major areas only stop at Grimsby Town and Cleethorpes. None of the Rail Companies that use the route into Grimsby would change their timetables to accommodate  stopping at Grimsby Docks or Clee Sidings just because of possible football related passengers on 23 occasions a year - it just won't happen. There are no bus routes on the Parkway but they will come once the area becomes developed. Bus routes were introduced once the Willows Estate was developed in the late 60's and that service was extended when Wybers Wood was built in the late 70's. Once an area comes into commercial/habitation use then the public bus service will follow.

I think you are right about access. The main priority isn't away fans, it's home fans and every in-town site has a problem with that. Even the Parkway won't be easy to reach by car for a lot of people especially when a developer has built a housing estate next door.

[quote=59][/b]Though we had a mystery investor Tarka or is this a red hearing to try and force the councils hand?[[b]/quote]

No red herring (or hearing) definitely a investor talking to GTFC

They've tried allsorts over the years to regenerate Freemo, it's just been a total waste.
Freemo will never rise from the ashes and even a football ground wouldn't make a difference.
Not one penny more should be wasted on that dump of an area